Rally 2013

hession

So was anyone around last in Eyre Square to witness the opening???
What did ye think
I have to say i thought it was very badly organised
There was kids all over the place as there wasnt great traffic management,
was nearly got ran over by a taxi.
Who brainwave was it to hold it where it was, why not do it where it was last year ?

rant over:(

Black_Knight

hession wrote: »

So was anyone around last night in Eyre Square to witness the opening???
What did ye think?
I have to say i I thought it was very badly organised.
There was were kids all over the place, as there wasnt great traffic management,.
was nearly got ran over by a taxi. I was nearly ran over by a taxi.
Who's brainwave was it to hold it where it was, why not do it where it was last year ?

rant over:(

You sir, have appalling English.

inisboffin

Who's is a correction?

Seriously? :rolleyes:

ben.schlomo

inisboffin wrote: »

Who's is a correction?

Seriously? :rolleyes:

You should have corrected the correction Inis.

On topic, hate rally weekend and all the ensuing boy racer bs that comes with it.

Iwannahurl

MAN HOSPITALISED IN DUBLIN AFTER ROSSAVEAL ASSAULT

February 3, 2013 - 2:02pm

ONE man has been removed to hospital in Dublin with serious head injuries following an assault at Rossaveal Pier in the early hours of today.

The incident is alleged to have happened at approximately 4 am,

Several residents in this area of Connemara say as many as 200 cars, mostly boy racers were speeding around roads there during the past two nights.

One resident said he watched "droves of cars - approximately 200" speeding through Spiddal at 3 am this morning and he said local residents couldn't sleep with the noise created by the speeding cars.

It is reported that the man who was injured in the assault at Rossaveal Pier is a local but Gardai could not confirm this up to lunchtime today.

The man has been taken to Beaumont Hospital for treatment to serious head injuries.

Gardai in Salthill are investigating the incident.

StonedRaider

I was there. First time witnessing the Galway rally opening in 10+ yrs. Wasn't a huge crowd..so didn't see much issue with traffic management.
Looking at the boy racers going round and round and round the square in their 'souped' / 'pimped' up 10 yr old corsas/pug 106s/civics and diesel golf's were laughable. Is that the best Galway has to offer?

ben.schlomo

StonedRaider wrote: »

I was there. First time witnessing the Galway rally opening in 10+ yrs. Wasn't a huge crowd..so didn't see much issue with traffic management.
Looking at the boy racers going round and round and round the square in their 'souped' / 'pimped' up 10 yr old corsas/pug 106s/civics and diesel golf's were laughable. Is that the best Galway has to offer?

No the souped up cars are what North County Galway has to offer, us city folk, and im obviously speaking as the representative, have no interest in that kinda sh1te.

dinneenp

here's some of my photos from down by motorpark on Saturday

and 2 more that I haven't put on my website yet

Galway International Rally by Photoblog.ie (Patrick Dinneen), on Flickr


Galway International Rally by Photoblog.ie (Patrick Dinneen), on Flickr

Black_Knight

inisboffin wrote: »

Who's is a correction?

Seriously? :rolleyes:

Well this is embarrassing. :rolleyes: I'd like to blame the beer, but I could never do such a thing.

thegrayson

Woodquay, the Galway Shopping Center, Sean Mulvoy Road and the Headford Road Roundabout were a congested mess on Friday night. Traffic slow in all direction, mostly "boy racer" types.
Garda cars were circulating but the traffic build up wasn't ebing managed. We're talking 23:30 here.

Iwannahurl

dinneenp wrote: »

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8095/8439623882_1f8fe3e221_z.jpg

Wile were on the topick of speling, whats "mircotunnelling"?

Sponge Bob

Iwannahurl wrote: »

Wile were on the topick of speling, whats "mircotunnelling"?

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antoobrien

Iwannahurl wrote: »

Wile were on the topick of speling, whats "mircotunnelling"?

Seriously would that have to be explained to you if it was air & line and this was the 40s?:eek:

Iwannahurl

antoobrien wrote: »

Seriously would that have to be explained to you if it was air & line and this was the 40s?:eek:

Ya wha?

See pic above.

antoobrien

Iwannahurl wrote: »

Ya wha?

See pic above.

I saw it, microtunnelling is making small tunnels that are too small for a human to operate the boring machine (hence the micro bit).


So what's your concern, the made up word, the grammar, spelling (nothing wrong with either) or the fact that there's something you don't know about?

Iwannahurl

antoobrien wrote: »

I saw it, microtunnelling is making small tunnels that are too small for a human to operate the boring machine (hence the micro bit).

So what's your concern, the made up word, the grammar, spelling (nothing wrong with either) or the fact that there's something you don't know about?

Dear oh dear. What about microceph--- oh never mind.

Sponge Bob

Amazingly the guy in hospital ain't this guy. The driver goes the wrong way here.

The crap driver is sponsored by Fás...how apt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJvwii2Gd84

jamesdiver

jesus, very lucky. he smacked his head off the windscreen and all. Why were they standing so close to the action, with no protection.

Storm 10

jamesdiver wrote: »

jesus, very lucky. he smacked his head off the windscreen and all. Why were they standing so close to the action, with no protection.

They were standing in the correct place , the driver should have turned left not right, must have had a crap navigator

jamesdiver

yeah i got that, but presumed they'd have to be behind something solid. Just glad he got back up from that one.

Iwannahurl

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Amazingly the guy in hospital ain't this guy. The driver goes the wrong way here.

The crap driver is sponsored by Fás...how apt.

By the looks of it the driver and navigator might well be on a CE scheme, but the car is sponsored by Fastway Couriers.

Maybe they cut corners in their parcel deliveries too?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUp2wTeIcfw

Asmodean

I have to say I dread the Rally weekend and Race week when it comes to work. Fair play for the boost it gives to the local economy but so many idiots. At least they're idiots who spend money so I can't be complaining about them too much.

Robbo

jamesdiver wrote: »

jesus, very lucky. he smacked his head off the windscreen and all. Why were they standing so close to the action, with no protection.

That was a marshall, although I'm not sure if he was in the best spot for a box junction.

Fey!

@ SpongeBob, Storm10 & Iwannahurl

Here's my post from this thread.

Fey! wrote: »

The reason for the box junction (all of the red and white tape) is just in case the driver takes a wrong turn, which could happen for a number of reasons.

In this case the road should have been clear for 50 metres, with nobody standing on the road, as well as in designated areas in the fields and on the ditches around it.

The marshals would have had a drawing like this:

which shows exactly where people can't stand.

If you compare the drawing with the video, you'll see that there aren't any people standing where the red lines are on the drawing.

Unfortunately the marshal was out of position when this happened; thankfully he wasn't injured.

It was not a "crap driver", and the person who was hit was unfortunately positioned where they shouldn't have been.

The idea of a run off road is that if something goes wrong the car has a clear area to pull in to.

The need for the run off road can be due to something on the road, a bad pacenote called, a communication mix up, or a mechanical failure in the car, or for another number of reasons.

As I said in the other post, thankfully the marshal wasn't injured.

Mick0

Wasn't obviously hurt, I'd say he was sore though!

2rkehij30qtza5

Asmodean wrote: »

I have to say I dread the Rally weekend and Race week when it comes to work. Fair play for the boost it gives to the local economy but so many idiots. At least they're idiots who spend money so I can't be complaining about them too much.

Agree with this, although I do enjoy the races and look forward to it...but the rally...I must have been woken a hundred times on Saturday night/Sunday morning with pimped-up Opel corsas zooming and revving past my house. Urgh.

nuac

That Motor Rally and it's followsers are becoming a nuisance.

Hope the man assualted at Rossaveale is recovering

Sponge Bob

Fey! wrote: »

@ SpongeBob,
As I said in the other post, thankfully the marshal wasn't injured.

Thanks Fey.

Fey!

nuac wrote: »

That Motor Rally and it's followsers are becoming a nuisance.

Hope the man assualted at Rossaveale is recovering

There is a huge difference between the rally followers and the people who cause all of the trouble. Unfortunately people looking from the outside in only see one group due to the central interest of each group being cars.

If you look at any of the motorsport/rallying websites such as www.rallyforums.com, you'll see a common viewpoint about these hooligans, and that is that they are not wanted around motorsport events. They do a huge amount of damage to the reputation of both rallying and rally fans.

These groups tend to set up meets and "cruises" to coincide with rallies around the country, which is something they are free to do. However, they are not associated with the various Motorsport Ireland regulated motorclubs around the country.

In Galway you see these people around every weekend in the shopping centre; these people themselves aren't necessarily troublemakers, but on rally weekends their numbers are inflated, making them far more noticeable, and some of the people who inflate their numbers are out to cause trouble. Again some, not all; most of this group only want to show off their cars.

tl;dr, rally fans and the troublemakers mentioned above are not the same group.

the keen edge

So which are people more outraged by; Rally weekend or Nuig Rag week?

I'm going to vote Rally weekend, as there's a greater chance I may get killed during it.

Iwannahurl

Alleged thugs and troublemakers to end up in court:

Twenty face charges after hectic rally weekend

"A 21-YEAR-OLD man is expected to appear in court today in relation to a weekend assault that has left a young Barna man fighting for his life in a Dublin hospital.

Gardai arrested the man – from the North Galway area – on Sunday evening under Section 4 of the Criminal Justice Act, following the incident at Rossaveal Pier in the early hours of Sunday morning.

An altercation developed at the pier shortly after 3.30am, between a number of young people driving cars who had been following the Galway International Rally – the injured man was allegedly hit in the head by a person wielding a wooden timber mallet.

[...]

Meanwhile Gardaí have also confirmed that over 20 young drivers – who were ‘tailing’ the rally at the weekend – face court charges over the coming weeks in relation to a series of road traffic offences.

Most of the charges will be for dangerous driving and speeding offences following a hectic weekend of Garda surveillance as they tried to keep tabs on gangs of ‘boy racers’.

The Dyke Road carpark in front of the Black Box Theatre was a favourite meeting point for the rally followers over the weekend, while for a time on Saturday night, they also ‘took over’ the Galway Shopping Centre carpark."

Hourglass

Iwannahurl wrote: »

Alleged thugs and troublemakers to end up in court:

Twenty face charges after hectic rally weekend

"A 21-YEAR-OLD man is expected to appear in court today in relation to a weekend assault that has left a young Barna man fighting for his life in a Dublin hospital.

Gardai arrested the man – from the North Galway area – on Sunday evening under Section 4 of the Criminal Justice Act, following the incident at Rossaveal Pier in the early hours of Sunday morning.

An altercation developed at the pier shortly after 3.30am, between a number of young people driving cars who had been following the Galway International Rally – the injured man was allegedly hit in the head by a person wielding a wooden timber mallet.

[...]

Meanwhile Gardaí have also confirmed that over 20 young drivers – who were ‘tailing’ the rally at the weekend – face court charges over the coming weeks in relation to a series of road traffic offences.

Most of the charges will be for dangerous driving and speeding offences following a hectic weekend of Garda surveillance as they tried to keep tabs on gangs of ‘boy racers’.

The Dyke Road carpark in front of the Black Box Theatre was a favourite meeting point for the rally followers over the weekend, while for a time on Saturday night, they also ‘took over’ the Galway Shopping Centre carpark."

Disgraceful carry on by all of these people.

With regards to preferring one of either rag week or the rally, I'd take rag week any day over the rally. The students usually keep to themselves, well at least used to. Certainly in my time in college (a long time ago!!) we used to just get drunk but keep to ourselves...unfortunately it seems in more recent years some students are out to cause trouble but I certainly don't feel threatened in any way during rag week whereas I don't like the rally crowd at all (the idiot boy racer types with their "cool" souped up Nissan Micras).

fishy fishy

it seems to be a free for all for thugs - should be cancelled.

jamesdiver

Theres a small minority at all gatherings in Galway that cause trouble. Just like race week where there are dozens of arrests for drunken behaviour. Sure cancel them all to be sure to be sure.

Get off your high horses, the rally is not the worst thing that comes to Galway by a long shot and is good for the local economy during a normally slow February.

fishy fishy

jamesdiver wrote: »

Theres a small minority at all gatherings in Galway that cause trouble. Just like race week where there are dozens of arrests for drunken behaviour. Sure cancel them all to be sure to be sure.

Get off your high horses, the rally is not the worst thing that comes to Galway by a long shot and is good for the local economy during a normally slow February.

never mind the fact that it invites a lot of non-desirables and it terrorizes people at night, sure as long as its good for the economy :rolleyes:

pleasant Co.

fishy fishy wrote: »

never mind the fact that it invites a lot of non-desirables and it terrorizes people at night, sure as long as its good for the economy :rolleyes:

Sounds like a fairly regular galway night....time to set a curfew :rolleyes:

jamesdiver

fishy fishy wrote: »

never mind the fact that it invites a lot of non-desirables and it terrorizes people at night, sure as long as its good for the economy :rolleyes:

Do you ever walk around Galway any Saturday night at 3am? If not im glad for you.

fishy fishy

pleasant Co. wrote: »

Sounds like a fairly regular galway night....time to set a curfew :rolleyes:

no, it doesn't actually. it sound like a congregation of idiots in souped up cars causing terror in the middle of the night to vulnerable people.

fishy fishy

jamesdiver wrote: »

Do you ever walk around Galway any Saturday night at 3am? If not im glad for you.

i do, all the time. :roll eyes:

are you trying to say that rally weekend is the same as a regular weekend?

pleasant Co.

fishy fishy wrote: »

no, it doesn't actually. it sound like a congregation of idiots in souped up cars causing terror in the middle of the night to vulnerable people.

sure it does

emptybladder

I remember February 1999, when the rally troublemakers (they're by no means rally fans IMO, just travel where the rallies go) were at their worst.

Gardai baton charging through Salthill, a line of them about 20 wide running from the direction of the station towards the roundabout.

Later that night, I saw a brand new Astra being broken into outside O'Reilly's and revved until the engine blew, while in the carpark there was donut show. The guards ended up blocking the entrance/exit to the carpark ... they just moved out to Silverstrand.

IIRC, there were about 60 of them up in court, a lot of them from Donegal.

2rkehij30qtza5

I remember the rally of '99 too in Salthill. The carpark was shut afterwards...looked like Beirut there with burnt out cars. There was a LOT of damage done around Salthill that night. Granted, nothing similar has happened since but the rally does bring a lot of undesirables to the area. The races doesn't bring the same type of crowd at all. Yes of course there are arrests during the races and at other events within the city but other events don't seem to attract as rough a crowd as the rally.

Iwannahurl

emptybladder wrote: »

Gardai baton charging through Salthill, a line of them about 20 wide running from the direction of the station towards the roundabout.

[...]

IIRC, there were about 60 of them up in court, a lot of them from Donegal.

Baton charge in Salthill? I have no recollection of such extreme drama, so I must have been out of the country at the time. Not the sort of thing you'd tend to forget.

Donegal is is permanent 'rally' mode in my experience... :rolleyes:

emptybladder

Iwannahurl wrote: »

Baton charge in Salthill? I have no recollection of such extreme drama, so I must have been out of the country at the time. Not the sort of thing you'd tend to forget.

Yeah, it was crazy stuff. I think the rally was banned for a couple of years afterwards, but subsequently returned.

Cops told all nightclubs (Bogarts, Liquid, Warwick) to stay open and keep people inside while they cleared Salthill. We left around 4am and the cops had all access roads into Salthill blocked off.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/ten-charged-as-disgraceful-rally-thugs-go-on-rampage-417658.html

WallyGUFC

Race week is different in that you won't have anyone going out to intentionally hit a young lad on the head with a mallet. Of course RAG week, race week and rally weekend attract scum, but these wannabe rally drivers put other road users at risk, whereas IMO RAG week and race week are just an annoyance for anyone not interested. Something about annual events beginning with the letter 'R' eh!

Iwannahurl

emptybladder wrote: »

Yeah, it was crazy stuff. I think the rally was banned for a couple of years afterwards, but subsequently returned.

Cops told all nightclubs (Bogarts, Liquid, Warwick) to stay open and keep people inside while they cleared Salthill. We left around 4am and the cops had all access roads into Salthill blocked off.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/ten-charged-as-disgraceful-rally-thugs-go-on-rampage-417658.html

"Violence marred the Statoil Galway International Rally for the second year in a row."

It's all coming back to me now. I was out of the country for a few months in both 1998 and 1999, which is why I missed the Salthill riots.

Crazy stuff indeed.

Storm 10

I was in Killorans that night and will never forget it, crazy to see the baton charge and the hail of stones and bottles that were being thrown at the Garda, as stated the damage was very bad and one thing I wont forget was the noise of the rioters roaring and the sound of breaking glass etc

fishy fishy

some will try to convince you it is the same as a regular Saturday night in town. :rolleyes::D

G Power

emptybladder wrote: »

I remember February 1999, when the rally troublemakers (they're by no means rally fans IMO, just travel where the rallies go) were at their worst.

Gardai baton charging through Salthill, a line of them about 20 wide running from the direction of the station towards the roundabout.

Later that night, I saw a brand new Astra being broken into outside O'Reilly's and revved until the engine blew, while in the carpark there was donut show. The guards ended up blocking the entrance/exit to the carpark ... they just moved out to Silverstrand.

IIRC, there were about 60 of them up in court, a lot of them from Donegal.

this actually happened in 98 if i remember correct

ben.schlomo

G Power wrote: »

no, but you have this instead http://www.herald.ie/news/courts/how-manuela-17-took-shortcut-to-her-death-1668786.html

How ridiculously inappropriate and tasteless.

antoobrien

G Power wrote: »

no, but you have this instead http://www.herald.ie/news/courts/how-manuela-17-took-shortcut-to-her-death-1668786.html

Very tasteless and very very inaccurate. That had nothing to do with any of the race meetings or rallys in Galway.