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Healthy eating.

  • 01-02-2013 11:25am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭.jacksparrow.


    Is it all its cut out to be?I mean how much eating healthy actually equates to you living longer.I don't mean eating take aways if you're 20 stone,but if you're an average weight,does eating your greens really make a difference,is there a proven theory for this rule?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    try it for 2 weeks, see how much better you feel


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 49 Username567


    Is it all its cut out to be?I mean how much eating healthy actually equates to you living longer.I don't mean eating take aways if you're 20 stone,but if you're an average weight,does eating your greens really make a difference,is there a proven theory for this rule?

    I eat healthily for the quality if my daily life right now, not to live longer. Feeling tired, sore and lethargic is no way to live.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭.jacksparrow.


    But the majority of people I know don't eat
    Healthy including myself but feel great,loving life.

    Like this recommended drink 4 litres of water a day lark,who comes up with this madness?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    Weight control is only one reason to eat healthily.

    Go a few weeks without B6 and B12 and I'll come visit you in the psych unit. Those 2 in particular are essential for a healthy nervous system thus ensuring effective motor function, co-ordination etc. Others are essential for red blood cell production. Others are essential for other things.

    Healthy eating is imperative for a healthy body and mind. B12 is very important for mental health. Deficiency can lead to acute anxiety and depression. It's the vitamin that vegetarians have to keep an eye on the most as it's only present in a few non-animal foods.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭SunnyDub1


    Yes...

    Healthier you eat the better you will feel, look and more energy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    But the majority of people I know don't eat
    Healthy including myself but feel great,loving life.

    Like this recommended drink 4 litres of water a day lark,who comes up with this madness?

    Nobody recommends that you drink 4 litres a day. It's recommended that you consume around that amount each day. Note consume, not drink. It includes the foods you eat that contain lots of water.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    But the majority of people I know don't eat
    Healthy including myself but feel great,loving life.

    Like this recommended drink 4 litres of water a day lark,who comes up with this madness?

    eating healthy isn't all about instant results now.

    the water helps your kidney function, which will help in later life, and will make a huge difference to your complexion.

    eating healthily doesn't have to mean salads etc all the time, it just means a balanced diet.

    Don't take this the wrong way, but I imagine you are under 25 at the moment? Trust me, by the time you hit 40 you'll either be thankful that you ate healthily when you were younger, or you'll be regretting that you didn't eat healthily.

    The difference to your skin, your joints, your fitness, your overall health, can be unbelievable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭.jacksparrow.


    kraggy wrote: »
    Weight control is only one reason to eat healthily.

    Go a few weeks without B6 and B12 and I'll come visit you in the psych unit. Those 2 in particular are essential for a healthy nervous system thus ensuring effective motor function, co-ordination etc. Others are essential for red blood cell production. Others are essential for other things.

    Healthy eating is imperative for a healthy body and mind. B12 is very important for mental health. Deficiency can lead to acute anxiety and depression. It's the vitamin that vegetarians have to keep an eye on the most as it's only present in a few non-animal foods.

    In well aware of vitamin b12 defiency,the person I know inherited this from a family member,so its not something you only catch from not eating healthy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭.jacksparrow.


    kraggy wrote: »

    Nobody recommends that you drink 4 litres a day. It's recommended that you consume around that amount each day. Note consume, not drink. It includes the foods you eat that contain lots of water.

    So my half pint of water a day is enough.I knew it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Your genetics will have a much bigger influence over how long you may live than healthy living.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    In well aware of vitamin b12 defiency,the person I know inherited this from a family member,so its not something you only catch from not eating healthy.

    That's true. Some people have a natural deficiency in B12 even though they consume plenty of fish/meat etc. They can have a problem absorbing it or retaining it.

    But it can be a purely diet issue too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    The difference in how I feel after a lunch of salad and a lunch of rubbish is enormous. Soup and salad gives me Happy Belly.

    Yes, eating healthily is worth it. You need the vitamins and minerals that you just won't get from not eating your veg.

    ETA: upping your wholegrain and your vegetable intakes will drastically increase the amount you fart though; as the reception area just found out, to my chagrin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Drakares


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Your genetics will have a much bigger influence over how long you may live than healthy living.

    Eating poison will make you sicker than drinking your own diarrhea.

    Still doesn't mean the shít is good for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    kraggy wrote: »
    Nobody recommends that you drink 4 litres a day. It's recommended that you consume around that amount each day. Note consume, not drink. It includes the foods you eat that contain lots of water.

    It's 2 litres not 4 litres, and this figure is more or less arbitrary depending on your size, salt consumption, daily activity levels etc...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 683 ✭✭✭starlings


    Drakares wrote: »
    Eating poison will make you sicker than drinking your own diarrhea.

    Still doesn't mean the shít is good for you.

    and now I don't want my healthy lunch anymore. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Drakares wrote: »
    Eating poison will make you sicker than drinking your own diarrhea.

    Still doesn't mean the shít is good for you.

    Okay? But the biggest factor when it comes to long life is a genetic predisposition to it. Many people who have lived over 100 have smoked for a long time and not eaten heathily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Why would you care about how long you're going to live?

    My mother is a nurse in a retirement home, and her advise to her children is : Don't get old. At least, don't get old enough to start forgetting who you are and how to use a loo...

    So I eat healthy simply because it makes me feel good.
    The same reason why I do most things, really : exercise, eat good food, sex, read, chat with friends... They all make me feel good now, I don't really care if any of them will lengthen my life by a day or two.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Shenshen wrote: »
    exercise, eat good food, sex, read, chat with friends...

    And if you put your mind to it, you can actually do all of these things at once!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    smash wrote: »
    And if you put your mind to it, you can actually do all of these things at once!

    I'm always up for multi-tasking... provided someone else will clean up the mess.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    I think it is all what it's cut out to be. By eating healthily and nutritiously you're giving yourself the best chance in life and that means a longer, healthier lifespan, better well being all round and much improved mood and state of mind.

    I eat quite healthily and I feel I've much more energy all the time, I'm never sick, and if I am I recover very quickly, and I find it easy to regulate my weight.

    Add to that you're looking much better and so much better to everyone else around you, which leads to more looks your way, and you can't find a substantial negative to healthy eating at all. It's all very much worth it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 manonhire


    Is it all its cut out to be?I mean how much eating healthy actually equates to you living longer.I don't mean eating take aways if you're 20 stone,but if you're an average weight,does eating your greens really make a difference,is there a proven theory for this rule?

    OP - how would you define 'healthy eating'?


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Emery Muscular Revolt


    Is it all its cut out to be?I mean how much eating healthy actually equates to you living longer.I don't mean eating take aways if you're 20 stone,but if you're an average weight,does eating your greens really make a difference,is there a proven theory for this rule?

    Theories don't get "proven"


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I just had the one breakfast roll this morning, feel far better for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭donegal_road


    I was just reading about this guy a few days ago. There can be no question about the benefits of eating healthily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    try it for 2 weeks, see how much better you feel

    Not as good as i do after a big fat ****ing foot-long donor.
    That i can tell you as an absolute certainty.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    CruelCoin wrote: »
    Not as good as i do after a big fat ****ing foot-long donor.
    That i can tell you as an absolute certainty.

    you really can't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    you really can't.

    I'll go get one tonight and i'll get back to you.

    This i will do in the name of science!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    I was just reading about this guy a few days ago. There can be no question about the benefits of eating healthily.

    I actually read as far down as the recipe, and what can I say?

    Raw almonds are NOT healthy. Ever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    kylith wrote: »
    ETA: upping your wholegrain and your vegetable intakes will drastically increase the amount you fart though; as the reception area just found out, to my chagrin.

    I thought you were a girl


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    I was just reading about this guy a few days ago. There can be no question about the benefits of eating healthily.

    One case proves exactly fuck all.
    Hypotheses are not proven with anecdotes nor is evidence the plural of anecdote

    Edit: A quote from the link
    I wanted to put as many vitamins, minerals, nutrients and enzymes into my body as possible
    Clearly this guy is clearly from that special group of imbeciles that think plants have enzymes that perform some kind of magic in the body, rather than being broken down into amino acids, which is what actually happens. Even if they did survive digestion, plant enzymes perform duties like helping the plant grow and form roots and such, hardly useful in a human.

    Now I'm not speaking against healthy eating, but my definition of healthy eating is different to the retarded link you posted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    I thought you were a girl

    I am.

    I am also a prodigious farter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    kylith wrote: »
    I am.

    I am also a prodigious farter.

    Are you also a gamer? Do you drink pints?

    If yes, then me love you long time!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 497 ✭✭akura




    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭donegal_road


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    One case proves exactly fuck all.
    Hypotheses are not proven with anecdotes nor is evidence the plural of anecdote

    Edit: A quote from the link

    Clearly this guy is clearly from that special group of imbeciles that think plants have enzymes that perform some kind of magic in the body, rather than being broken down into amino acids, which is what actually happens. Even if they did survive digestion, plant enzymes perform duties like helping the plant grow and form roots and such, hardly useful in a human.

    Now I'm not speaking against healthy eating, but my definition of healthy eating is different to the retarded link you posted

    please share your views on what healthy eating is then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    please share your views on what healthy eating is then

    Well it certainly wouldn't be the vegan diet described by the looney bin in your link


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭donegal_road


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    Well it certainly wouldn't be the vegan diet described by the looney bin in your link

    what would it be? Thats what Im asking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Pyr0


    A nice balance of healthy eating with a bit of junk food thrown in suits me nicely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    what would it be? Thats what Im asking

    Meat, fat, vegetables, fruit, dairy. Little to no grains and no vegetable oils.
    Basically no food you can't make yourself in a kitchen


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,080 ✭✭✭McChubbin


    My two cents:
    If you've been a junk food addict all your life, it will be a shock to the system if you quit cold turkey. Like with everything else that's bad for you, your body gets used to the constant imput of <insert poision of choice here> and you build up a tolerence. One thing I've learned over the years of yo-yo dieting is to cut down gradually and focus on one thing at a time rather than completely ditch ALL your vices. For instance, I'm currently a week into swapping out beer for non-alcoholic varieties in a bid to gradually wean myself off the stuff completely. I've decided to give myself a month on the non-alcholic stuff to get my body used to life without it before I cut back my usual six bottles down to four, then to two and finally to none.
    I'm not saying I'll be off it forever but it's a start. :/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭the keen edge


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Your genetics will have a much bigger influence over how long you may live than healthy living.

    This.

    Keith Richards case in point, fit as a butchers dog.


    He's still alive right?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,493 ✭✭✭long range shooter


    You should be careful with eating to healthy too,or you could end up with orthorexia nervosa.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthorexia_nervosa


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Tom_Cruise


    It is completely over rated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭Stella89


    Shenshen wrote: »
    I actually read as far down as the recipe, and what can I say?

    Raw almonds are NOT healthy. Ever.

    Can you expand on that :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭ziggy23


    I've just started eating healthy after being being a junk food junkie for the past 3 years. It's hard goin at the start cos your body craves the junk but definitely am starting to feel better:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    Tom_Cruise wrote: »
    It is completely over rated.
    In what sense?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Tom_Cruise


    Madam_X wrote: »
    In what sense?

    I think the difference between extremely healthy eating and eating junk 24/7 is noticeable - especially in energy levels, but eating healthily the majority of the time and still eating junk doesn't make any difference.

    This is my personal experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭Stella89


    Tom_Cruise wrote: »
    I think the difference between extremely healthy eating and eating junk 24/7 is noticeable - especially in energy levels, but eating healthily the majority of the time and still eating junk doesn't make any difference.

    This is my personal experience.


    I don't think it would make a difference to a young person , but I think it would make more of a difference to an older person , especially as older people tend to be more inactive .

    I think a teenager could eat junk food all day and still feel fine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,706 ✭✭✭fonecrusher1


    In my personal experience.....

    Eating mostly junk food
    - Generally feel ****e. Plop way too much because my body is trying to expel all the highly processed gunk. Basically if all you eat is processed sludge, your digestive system is in a constant state of action processing the useless components of the crap you eat. All this digestive activity absorbs energy and leaves you tired all the time.

    Eating well. As in good decent food like porridge/granola, veg soup, fish + potatoes, nice bit of steak, plate of stew - Feel more able for exercise and generally sleep better and work better throughout the day. Dont get me wrong, I pick one day of the week to eat whatever I want but thats it. Rest of the week I eat well enough.

    In my opinion 'eating well' does not mean salads and cabbage soup or eating any of that weight watchers or "low fat" lifestyle microwave slop. Its just simple stuff thats actually lovely on its own. Bit of stew, lovely bit of salmon. Even just a bit of breaded cod with a dollop of mash and a bit of parsely sauce...just take it easy on the portion size and don't follow it with some sweet sludgey pudding or half a packet of chocolate hobnobs with the cup of tea.

    Eat less or/and eat better + a bit of exercise = a better life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,493 ✭✭✭long range shooter


    Stella89 wrote: »
    I

    I think a teenager could eat junk food all day and still feel fine

    I doubt that,it would end up in obesity,its not good to eat junk food every day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 Aliana


    I go through phases, a few months healthy living here, a few months of laziness there. I'm always surprised when I eat relatively clean and throw in a bit of exercise for a couple of weeks how good I feel. I get used to feeling sh!t all the time and so don't really notice it. Aches and pains become the norm, headaches are frequent. Then I spend a few months (usually spring to autumn) giving it socks and feel fantastic. I gradually slip back to unhealthy habits as the evenings get darker so I don't really notice the change. That's just my experience, I know people who thrive on junk food. As long as you get enough nutrients and eat enough but not too many calories there isn't much more you can do. Avoiding pesticides, sugar and known allergens won't do you any harm.


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