full vinyl wrap on the cheap

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Getting the job done at a specialist would cost a pretty penny...

The material is cheap enough:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B006AAVJFY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3ME10JLNNLN2V

Has anyone tried a DIY job?

BUBBLE WRAP

Haven't tried it myself but, my advice is too heat up the panels of the car with a eat gun, just before you put on the wrap. This will help the wrap stick better.

tossy

You would want to be handy to attempt a whole car yourself,i did a few small touches on my own car and the were pretty hard to get right,a panel like a door ,wing or bonnet would be a nightmare.

The amazon stuff is useless to you as it only comes in sheets 50cm wide so in effect you would be wallpapering your car not wrapping it.You need large sheets bigger than the panels you are covering to do the job right and that drives the costs up.

You will also need to have the car spotless before wrapping,and i mean spotless as in alll contaminants removed from paintwork using a claybar.

dar83

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

Haven't tried it myself but, my advice is too heat up the panels of the car with a eat gun, just before you put on the wrap. This will help the wrap stick better.

You heat the wrap, not the panels. Heating the panels would be inefficient and a nightmare if you're talking about a bonnet/roof.

Op, if you're trying to do it yourself, you'll need at least two people. Make sure you buy decent Vinyl, 3M or similar and start small. Get used to working with it and how it reacts, moves, stretches etc... Then get on to YouTube and watch some application videos. It's actually quite fun to use once you get used to it, but can be frustrating when you're starting out.

Toyotafanboi

tossy wrote: »

The amazon stuff is useless to you as it only comes in sheets 50cm wide so in effect you would be wallpapering your car not wrapping it.You need large sheets bigger than the panels you are covering to do the job right and that drives the costs up.

exactly that. sheets 1000x500 arent worth a **** to you, you'l never get them to join seamlessly and it'l look cack. you'd need to be working with sheets multiples of that size and really its an absolute minimum of a two man job.

if i was going matte black i'd probably get it painted. and if i was paying for paint i'd paint it a nice colour because matte black is silly looking :pac:

no offence op

ottostreet

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

Haven't tried it myself but, my advice is too heat up the panels of the car with a eat gun, just before you put on the wrap. This will help the wrap stick better.

My advice is, when you don't know what you're talking about, don't 'advise' people what to do.

Hailhail1967

You do realise that sheet is only 50cm by 1 metre.

Also doing this yourself is not easy. Saying a professional costs a pretty penny is like putting up a can of aerosil spray paint and using the same scenario.

This stuff doesn't compare to a professional job.

BUBBLE WRAP

ottostreet wrote: »

My advice is, when you don't know what you're talking about, don't 'advise' people what to do.

If you don't like my posts, feel free to put me on ignore.

Drummerboy08

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

If you don't like my posts, feel free to put me on ignore.

It's not that he doesn't like your post I'd imagine, more simply he's pointing out your advice makes no sense.

If you heat a panel you'll risk losing paint, you heat the wrap instead.

OP I wouldn't try it myself, it's a massively time consuming job to do right.

MugMugs

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

Haven't tried it myself but, my advice is too heat up the panels of the car with a eat gun, just before you put on the wrap. This will help the wrap stick better.

Excellent.

Any temperature or should you work up to hot to the touch?

How close should the gun be at any one time?

Hailhail1967

How many sheets are you planning on buying for a whole car? How will you do joins?

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BUBBLE WRAP

MugMugs wrote: »

Excellent.

Any temperature or should you work up to hot to the touch?

How close should the gun be at any one time?

If you didn't notice Iv'e been corrected already.

MugMugs

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

If you didn't notice Iv'e been corrected already.

Sorry man, been looking at this myself and thought you were meant to heat the paint work too.

I was the same as you like, thought that heating the paint would be the way to go and then the vinyl.

Do you reckon it could damage the car so?

BUBBLE WRAP

MugMugs wrote: »

Sorry man, been looking at this myself and thought you were meant to heat the paint work too.

I was the same as you like, thought that heating the paint would be the way to go and then the vinyl.

Do you reckon it could damage the car so?

Not sure, But I don't see why it would harm the paint.

dgt

OP cheap and vinyl wrap don't go hand in hand. If it was that cheap, wouldn't you see many more people at it?

You also need to know what you're doing when shaping it, applying it etc. It's easy to make a balls of something like that. Ring round for prices on a proper job

BUBBLE WRAP

MugMugs wrote: »

Sorry man, been looking at this myself and thought you were meant to heat the paint work too.

I was the same as you like, thought that heating the paint would be the way to go and then the vinyl.

Do you reckon it could damage the car so?

Now this is why I thought it wasn't a bad idea to heat up the panel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I_9QQdTrHE

Now this chap heat up the paint, it doesn't appear to cause the paint any harm. Although he is heating up the paint so it won't chip and crack when he rolls the arches.

Drummerboy08

If you heat paint too much it'll bubble. Or at the very least cause other damage.

BUBBLE WRAP

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

If you heat paint too much it'll bubble. Or at the very least cause other damage.

But I mean like heating it slightly. I thought that the sticky stuff on the vinyl might stick better to a slightly heated surface then a cold surface.

Drummerboy08

Nope. You heat the vinyl to help shape it easier.

The only reason you'd aim a heat gun at a car is tomelt the glue on sign writing etc and even then it's a quick flash.

BUBBLE WRAP

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

Nope. You heat the vinyl to help shape it easier.

The only reason you'd aim a heat gun at a car is tomelt the glue on sign writing etc and even then it's a quick flash.

Okay, Thanks for the help. I understand now.

Big Nasty

Great thing about boards is the expert advice you get for free!

BUBBLE WRAP

MCMLXXV wrote: »

Great thing about boards is the expert advice you get for free!

Yup, it's priceless.

JimmyCrackCorn

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

Yup, it's priceless.

Please stop trolling in here.

Go away for a week please.

You have succeeded in getting a reaction from me.

milimetr192

Hi there. I'm thinking about to do something with my rough, and flaking paintwork, so the first tough is the vinyl wrap. Can anyone please advice me what can I do with the places when the clear coat is flaking? Will sanding it down be good enough, will vinyl stick to that, or will I have to spray some laquer over that anyway? I was watching those videos on youtube, and it doesnt seem to br too hard to do, considering I was doing a lot of wallpapering at the time. I know its totally difrent stuff, but thats some basic, right?

tossy

If your paint work is rough and flaking all the imperfections will be shown off by the vinyl wrap,it will look nasty.You are better off spending the money getting the paint work right.

milimetr192

I got what U mean Tossy, but to do the paintwork would be more expensive than the car is worth , so I rather touch it up and wrap it up. I'm just worried how the laquer will behave under the vinyl. Even if I touch it up, it will still be flaking on the rest of the car. Logic is telling me that it shouldn't flake any more if I cover that with vinyl, because no air, sun, or water will be getting there to cause flaking. I have to say that the paintwork is really f...d up. Looks like somebody was repainting the car, and sprayed the clear coat too late, so now it's lifting. Have anyone some experience with that sort of stuff? Cheers

milimetr192

So no one to help??

dgt

milimetr192 wrote: »

So no one to help??

Going from the above:

milimetr192 wrote: »

I got what U mean Tossy, but to do the paintwork would be more expensive than the car is worth , so I rather touch it up and wrap it up. I'm just worried how the laquer will behave under the vinyl. Even if I touch it up, it will still be flaking on the rest of the car. Logic is telling me that it shouldn't flake any more if I cover that with vinyl, because no air, sun, or water will be getting there to cause flaking. I have to say that the paintwork is really f...d up. Looks like somebody was repainting the car, and sprayed the clear coat too late, so now it's lifting. Have anyone some experience with that sort of stuff? Cheers

Bodywork must be spot on for wrap, I'd sort the paint first

JohnBoy26

milimetr192

Seems like I will have a lot of fun I'd say the door handles will be most akward.

PaulyTheRed

Just out of interest, what are the going prices for a full wrap on a standard size 2 door coupe against a full respray? In a gloss white say.

milimetr192

I got a quotation for 3 door prelude, to be wrapped in carbon 650 euros, the man supply the vinyl.

PaulyTheRed

where was that from?

milimetr192

I will try to dig out his nr. He was somwhere near Sligo anyway.

Hailhail1967

At that price was he doing it out his back garden by any chance?

To get proper vinyl and have it done properly is going to cost significantly moe than that. The same as a paint job more or less.

milimetr192

Hailhail1967 wrote: »

At that price was he doing it out his back garden by any chance?

To get proper vinyl and have it done properly is going to cost significantly moe than that. The same as a paint job more or less.

I have no idea where he is doing that, but I've seen audi a6 he has done, and I had no issues with the quality of work. The price is exactly 40 euros per sq meter.

milimetr192

PaulyTheRed wrote: »

where was that from?

PM sent

Hailhail1967

You should tell them start advertising, they will be the busiest man/woman in Ireland at those prices.

milimetr192

Hailhail1967 wrote: »

You should tell them start advertising, they will be the busiest man/woman in Ireland at those prices.

So maybe I'm just lucky, because that was 1st place I asked for price, and seems to be cheapest arround :cool:. What is it then in other places? I'm just curious

Hailhail1967

Have seen prices up to €2000, pretty much the same prices as a good spray job.

milimetr192

I would rather paint the car if so. No point of doing whole car in vinyl if the price is the same as the paintjob. What if for example I scratch the vinyl? Have to redo whole element, when with the paint very often is enough to polish it off

Hailhail1967

Exactly. In the real world vinyl is as expensive as paint. The same way you will find someone to spray your car cheap you will find someone to do vinyl cheap. Vinyl is very expensive to buy as it is, so to get good quality and get it done it an expensive process.

It's not a cheap way out by any means and if your paint work is poor to start with even tiny scratches show up on the finished surface.

If its a cheap cover up your looking for I would say spray it yourself with matt paint, its the cheapest way to get a decent finish but obviously matt paint is not to every-ones liking. Or roller it with rustoleum If you can do the wrap yourself you could save money alright but its a bloody nightmare to do and get right without wasting huge amounts of vinyl.

That being said in today's market I wouldn't be surprised about how cheap you could get it done, I would just be very wary.

As for vinyl, yes if it tears you have to replace it, the same way you would have to with paint to get it 100% again.

projectgtr

why not go the Plastidip route

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AP9cDgni38

Plenty of colour options and available from Cleancar.ie, and if you dont like it you can just peel it off and go for another colour.

Supergurrier

Plastidip is in my opinion not a long term solution, it's fine for trims and to protect wheels over winter but i wouldn't do a whole car in it no chance.

dar83

Supergurrier wrote: »

Plastidip is in my opinion not a long term solution, it's fine for trims and to protect wheels over winter but i wouldn't do a whole car in it no chance.

I dont think you're a very good voice of authority on the subject though. :pac:

PlastiDip is difficult to apply for a whole car kind of application, but in the hands of someone experienced, there's no reason it wouldn't be successful.

Supergurrier

I dunno front wheels didn't hold up very well past 3 months due to real world irish road conditions (yes im a culchie) and tbh i reckon lower bits of the car wouldn't wear so well + matt effect on a whole car looks tosh imo.

dar83

Supergurrier wrote: »

I dunno front wheels didn't hold up very well past 3 months due to real world irish road conditions (yes im a culchie) and tbh i reckon lower bits of the car wouldn't wear so well + matt effect on a whole car looks tosh imo.

Well you've seen mine, seems to be holding up alright and the front grilles are still fine after more than a year of being done.

You should check out the yellow PlastiDip'd ST, it actually looks lovely, but I do agree with you that a matte black finish is overdone these days, it's lost a lot of its charm. Matte some other funky colour though, sure why not?

MugMugs

Did you hear it pull off at the end???Mmmmmmmmmmm

Toyotafanboi

jesus he poisoned that poor audi didn't he. the hack of it. it looked lovely in white!

whats the story with door jambs, under door handles etc, all still white?

shocking imo.

harg90

i have a full 30m roll of matte black for sale if anybodys interested :L

Toyotafanboi

harg90 wrote: »

i have a full 30m roll of matte black for sale if anybodys interested :L

what width is it?