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Dublin GAA Discussion Thread - 2013

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 243 ✭✭Fits Morris


    copacetic wrote: »
    New jersey design is independent of sponsor. They will see out this year then end the 6 year deal after only 4 years apparently. Will be in Herald later by all accounts.

    Expect a new jersey design again next year. A new jersey came out for the 2009 season but was replaced after a year when Arnott's pulled out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭sgarvan


    copacetic wrote: »
    New jersey design is independent of sponsor. They will see out this year then end the 6 year deal after only 4 years apparently. Will be in Herald later by all accounts.

    It was a 3 year deal. Started in 2010. Worth €4.65m. Not being renewed at the end of 2013.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭Falconno4


    copacetic wrote: »
    New jersey design is independent of sponsor. They will see out this year then end the 6 year deal after only 4 years apparently. Will be in Herald later by all accounts.

    Not sure where 6 or 4 is coming from

    3 years, didn't renew.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    Not sure how they could continue to justify paying the money seen as they felt the need to sack a load of their staff in Leopardstown and Dundalk and outsource their jobs abroad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    iDave wrote: »
    Not sure how they could continue to justify paying the money seen as they felt the need to sack a load of their staff in Leopardstown and Dundalk and outsource their jobs abroad
    .. personally O2/Vodafone doesn't sit well with me in a GAA context but for the sponsorship sums involved they're the only likely candidates. Phone wise buy Irish its Meteor for me :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭Dublinfan


    Tyrone team for saturday

    Tyrone: N Morgan; A McCrory, C Gormley, C McCarron; Joe McMahon, Justin McMahon, R McNamee; C Cavanagh, S Cavanagh; Mattie Donnelly, P Harte, C McGinley; K Coney, S O'Neill, Mark Donnelly. Subs: P McConnell, A Cassidy, K Gallagher, P Kane, J Lafferty, C McAliskey, D McBride, R McKenna, P McNiece, M Murphy, M Penrose

    No sign of Dublin line up yet if its not up by 10 i say we will get it tomorrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Any news on the hurlers?


    Fancy your chances against us?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,295 ✭✭✭Justin10


    Fireball07 wrote: »
    Any news on the hurlers?


    Fancy your chances against us?

    We haven't hurled well, need a much better performance then last week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Rochey18 wrote: »
    We haven't hurled well, need a much better performance then last week.

    What a coincidence, so do we :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭Dublinfan


    same team as last week for tomorrow, really hoped we would have cluxton this week but nope another week for supple


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  • Subscribers Posts: 16,890 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    Falconno4 wrote: »
    Not sure where 6 or 4 is coming from

    3 years, didn't renew.

    Well among other things, I can count. They have already been sponsors for over 3 years, by end of championship it will be 4 and when it was announced at end of 2009 it was widely reported it was a 6 year deal.

    As it turns out it was a 6 year deal, but years 4,5 and 6 were yearly options and they took year 4 but they aren't renewing 5 or 6.


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,890 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    Dublinfan wrote: »
    same team as last week for tomorrow, really hoped we would have cluxton this week but nope another week for supple

    Cluxton appears to be back in side? I'd prefer him to keep mixing it up and give players a run. Including in the forwards.

    Edit - now Dubmatchtracker listed cluxton, hogan stand list supple. Dunno what is going on...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭sgarvan


    copacetic wrote: »
    Well among other things, I can count. They have already been sponsors for over 3 years, by end of championship it will be 4 and when it was announced at end of 2009 it was widely reported it was a 6 year deal.

    As it turns out it was a 6 year deal, but years 4,5 and 6 were yearly options and they took year 4 but they aren't renewing 5 or 6.

    Was promptly corrected about that myself off the forum yesterday!

    Was unaware myself it was a 6 year deal with 3 years optional. Always was under the impression it was a 3 year deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Qwerty Dub


    Does anyone actually think the team will start as named tomorrow?

    Match tracker have Supple in goal too from what i seen this morning.


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,890 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    Qwerty Dub wrote: »
    Does anyone actually think the team will start as named tomorrow?

    Match tracker have Supple in goal too from what i seen this morning.

    He has deleted the tweet listing Cluxton, it was in same format/at same time as kickhams tweet. Now lists Supple.

    From looking at the team, it looks like forwards won't line up that way to me, but who can say..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Qwerty Dub


    copacetic wrote: »

    He has deleted the tweet listing Cluxton, it was in same format/at same time as kickhams tweet. Now lists Supple.

    From looking at the team, it looks like forwards won't line up that way to me, but who can say..

    There will definitely be a couple of changes I would say. Will probably give Supple another run out but id say a couple of lads named wont start.

    Will probably rest a couple of the championship starters and give others a chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭Falconno4


    Dummy team gents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Qwerty Dub


    Falconno4 wrote: »
    Dummy team gents.

    No change at all screams dummy team.

    Anyone care to call some changes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    I can't see any reason the team wont start as named. From a confidence point of view I think it was important that Supple be given a run out. I thought DC might've been rested in light of recent media coverage. Personally I feel that Ciaran Reddin needs a big game to keep him in the mix further down the line, he hasn't done anything wrong just feel he needs to do a bit more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Can anyone confirm whether this is the team named for the hurling game tomorrow?

    Alan Nolan; Peter Kelly, Paul Schutte, Ruairí Trainor; Michael Carton, Liam Rushe, Simon Lambert; Joey Boland, Kevin Byrne; Conal Keaney, Johnny McCaffrey, Danny Sutcliffe; Paul Ryan, Conor McCormack, David O’Callaghan


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Qwerty Dub


    Fireball07 wrote: »
    Can anyone confirm whether this is the team named for the hurling game tomorrow?

    Alan Nolan; Peter Kelly, Paul Schutte, Ruairí Trainor; Michael Carton, Liam Rushe, Simon Lambert; Joey Boland, Kevin Byrne; Conal Keaney, Johnny McCaffrey, Danny Sutcliffe; Paul Ryan, Conor McCormack, David O’Callaghan

    Looks right to me yeah.

    Nolan getting a run out in nets and Lambert who started last week instead of a sick Durkin starts again at Durkins expense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭Dublinfan


    Disappointing result, defence was awful and the ref didnt help , Huge loss without bernard tonight but resting him might be a good idea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 920 ✭✭✭Drummerboy2


    We really missed O'Carroll, especially in the first half tonight. O'Sullivan done well when he went back there in second half.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Yellowblackbird


    A pity Kilkenny went off - it's a game would have suited him.
    I would have expected Paddy Andrews to have made a bigger impact tonight.
    O'Sullivan did a good job on O'Neill when switched, but Tyrone were getting quality scores from all quarters.

    Looks like the Tyrone of old, numbers in defensive system, ferocious tackling and workrate. They'll be there at the finish this summer.


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,890 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    Pity to lose, but right decision to rest 4 or 5 to see how we cope.

    It was a good example of the kind of game we could lose in the summer, hard tackling team with some good finishers and constant cynical fouling along with a weak poor ref. we have to be able to move the ball on quicker to not get bogged down by it.

    Mayo and Kildare were at it a bit, but the number of blatant jersey drag down tackles today by Tyrone was crazy, they just took turns doing it and getting yellow carded. The back 8 must have each got one?
    Each time breaking up a decent attack. It's exactly what the rule change was supposed to do something about if brought in. If they don't bring in different rules then what can the ref do? As terrible as the ref was with crazily inconsistent and just plain blindness he isn't at fault for cynical play.

    Connolly did well again after anotjer few attempts to get a reaction by throwing digs, kept his cool and let the ref deal with it, although Duffy chickened out and just gave a yellow. Whatever about missing the later red, only giving a yellow for something that happens a yard in front of you is cowardly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭Dublinfan


    copacetic wrote: »
    Pity to lose, but right decision to rest 4 or 5 to see how we cope.

    It was a good example of the kind of game we could lose in the summer, hard tackling team with some good finishers and constant cynical fouling along with a weak poor ref. we have to be able to move the ball on quicker to not get bogged down by it.

    Mayo and Kildare were at it a bit, but the number of blatant jersey drag down tackles today by Tyrone was crazy, they just took turns doing it and getting yellow carded. The back 8 must have each got one?
    Each time breaking up a decent attack. It's exactly what the rule change was supposed to do something about if brought in. If they don't bring in different rules then what can the ref do? As terrible as the ref was with crazily inconsistent and just plain blindness he isn't at fault for cynical play.

    Connolly did well again after anotjer few attempts to get a reaction by throwing digs, kept his cool and let the ref deal with it, although Duffy chickened out and just gave a yellow. Whatever about missing the later red, only giving a yellow for something that happens a yard in front of you is cowardly.

    im wondering if the system for the ref is outdated, surely video playback and someone who sees blatant foul should talk in to the refs ear ect he could miss it but if there was someone looking at for it it be hard to ignore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,842 ✭✭✭corny


    Not too disappointed with the result but the performance highlighted a couple of things Dublin have to improve on if they have aspirations in the summer.

    I know the backs aren't exactly an experienced unit but i worry how easily we were dragged out of shape. We are conceding too many soft scores in front of the posts. They had a load of wides from kickable positions too. We can't be expecting to score 2-15 against the likes of Donegal in the summer and if you allow them such easy scores on the counter you haven't a hope.

    McManamon showed well for the ball and kicked some nice scores, as did Connolly (never let him kick from the ground again though). Bastick and O' Sullivan had good games too. Supple was assured in goal but he needs to recognise whats happening with his kick outs. It took him ages to realise Flynn wasn't winning anything in the air.

    I think the cynical fouling infuriates the crowd and part of the reason the Tyrone boys were at it was to try and knock the concentration of the players. I'm glad that didn't happen but the GAA simply have to address this. The result completely justifies the cheating as it did with Dublin and Mayo last year and i'm sure god knows how many other games. Its awful to watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    Fully deserved win for Tyrone - Cork showed earlier the problems in Dublins defence when they run at them, Tyrone gave a glaring example of the weakness last night. Way too much room in the space between 45 and halfway line. I like Tyrone tbh, but they showed much like Mayo last year, that cynicism and time wasting were the way to slow down the fast breaking Dublin attack. Marty Duffy brings out the worst in me, I don't rate him whatsoever - he was on the line last week and still managed to fudge his way thru the game. I'd agree with most of the the sentiments regards the players performance last night, I think CK was a big loss as the game was set up for him to link the play but hopefully the chap recovers soon. Another big thumbs up for the very little recognised Darren Daly, he coped as well as any with the marauding Tyrone forwards - was disappointed with the contribution of Dias.

    Finally it was glaringly obvious that without Cluxton we're stuffed for a place kicker - DC reminded me of Joe Sheridan a few years back barely getting the ball of the ground - contrast with young Morgans kicking for Tyrone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭Dublinfan


    watching jim gavins setanta interview quite worried by what he said, he mention we will see brogan and ocarrol back in action in a 'couple' of weeks.. too very strong players might we not see them again till the semis or even final?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Qwerty Dub


    Dublinfan wrote: »
    watching jim gavins setanta interview quite worried by what he said, he mention we will see brogan and ocarrol back in action in a 'couple' of weeks.. too very strong players might we not see them again till the semis or even final?

    Both lads have played a lot of games on heavy ground to be fair to them. No harm giving them a break. O'Carroll was playing O'Byrne Cup, Walsh Cup, Fitzgibbon Cup and Sigerson Cup with UCD and for Dublin in the league.

    Bernard played 5 O'Byrne Cup games and squeezed two Inter Pro games in while playing in the league too so a lot of gametime on heavy pitches. Couple of weeks off will do them no harm. Plus in Bernards case its no harm to see who can step up in his absence.

    There are bigger challenges ahead.


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