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€3m For This...

  • 24-01-2013 5:01pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭


    http://www.ireland.com has launched as the new tourism website for Ireland. It has cost €3m to develop :eek:
    Aside from that, either I'm completely thick or it's brutal and impossible to find anything.

    Nice pics but hey, if I'm a tourist, I want to find out how to spend my money, not scratch my head wondering how to navigate around the site.

    Or maybe it's because I'm not viewing it on a tablet :rolleyes:
    Specifically designed with touch-based tablets in mind, the site replaces discoverireland.com which was built in 2006 before social media, smart phones and tablets became commonplace.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2013/0123/breaking54.html

    What Do You Think? 42 votes

    It's fantasticc & great value for money
    0% 0 votes
    It's fantastic but a bit expensive
    14% 6 votes
    It's awful, I can't find anything
    85% 36 votes


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    It doesn't work properly... I guess some people just love to be screwed over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Shit. It's Homer Simpsons webpage


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    It's awful, I can't find the Atari Jaguar option on the poll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭ChippingSodbury


    Lucky they didn't get me to develop it: I can't even spell fantastic in the poll!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 381 ✭✭Bad Santa


    Probably because I'm not viewing it on a tablet

    Yup, I've just popped an E and it looks well mental.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Real Life


    looks like it was made for windows 8,
    3 million is rediculous though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭ChippingSodbury


    It's awful, I can't find the Atari Jaguar option on the poll.

    Try searching for it on ireland.com (and come back to us next year!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭Jaggy


    This is depressing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭Bits_n_Bobs


    It just doesn't work. At all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    No... they outsourced to the UK instead... "the contract to design the new Ireland.com site was given to a UK agency"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭jameshayes


    I like it - a little bit childish but good otherwise


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭ITS_A_BADGER


    Black screen?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Irish Times is really gone to fcuk!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    Looks like it was designed 10 years ago and shelved until now. Horrible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    How many people did they pay to do this, exactly? €3 million is gone far beyond taking the piss and into the realm of depressing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    The cloudy, overcast photo on the front screen doesn't exactly scream "extremely fun holiday" to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭yeppydeppy


    I can't even view it with IE9, it's just a black screen and no matter what you say IE is still the most used browser out there. Had a look using chrome and it's not too bad but seems a bit slow loading pages, they mustn't have spent much of the budget on backend hardware.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    smash wrote: »
    It doesn't work properly... I guess some people just love to be screwed over.


    If that's their idea of a mobile or tablet optimised site, I hope they kept the receipt for the €3m. It's chronic slow to load, and loads up a black page on top of the html so I'm assuming that's meant to be some sort of a placeholder for flash content which puts a fierce load on your phone or tablet.

    I managed to see some placeholders too for dropdown boxes before the black screen kicked in. Are they for real? Dropdown anything is painful on a touch device. I have an awful feeling that page is full of unnecessary and useless code and ridiculous formatting.

    They could've just wrapped it in an app and released it for iphone and android that way and then you could navigate through the options without the chronic delays. I can't see any tourist using this, instead relying on a travel app already on their phone or tablet instead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    yeppydeppy wrote: »
    no matter what you say IE is still the most used browser out there.

    No it's not. Do your research.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭ChippingSodbury


    smash wrote: »
    No it's not. Do your research.

    It's used by a lot of people: aren't they welcome in Ireland as tourists anymore?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 381 ✭✭Bad Santa


    The cloudy, overcast photo on the front screen doesn't exactly scream "extremely fun holiday" to me.

    For screaming photos I'd say you'd need to have dropped some LSD to have that kind of experience on the website to be fair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭jameshayes


    yeppydeppy wrote: »
    I can't even view it with IE9, it's just a black screen and no matter what you say IE is still the most used browser out there. Had a look using chrome and it's not too bad but seems a bit slow loading pages, they mustn't have spent much of the budget on backend hardware.
    smash wrote: »
    No it's not. Do your research.

    http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

    Chrome = nearly 47%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭Jaggy


    smash wrote: »
    No... they outsourced to the UK instead... "the contract to design the new Ireland.com site was given to a UK agency"

    This just makes it even worse. Not even money that has gone into an Irish agency.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    It's used by a lot of people: aren't they welcome in Ireland as tourists anymore?
    The site does work in IE 9. I checked.

    The bottom line on this site is that in an age of very high res monitors and responsive design for tablet/mobile, the fúcking morons in our government forked out 3 million euro for something which only fills around 15% of my screen with info. They are weapons grade morons!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭_Puma_


    One click and I was lost!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    I can't check how it looks in safari or chrome right now, but I just took a screen grab on my mobile opera browser. It seems like they're trying to convey the idea to tourists that Ireland is just a black hole. Not the best idea for promoting tourism-

    Scr000022.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭Frynge


    Also the information on it is not fully up to date.

    I think that is the least one could expect from €3m.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    The navigation is a bit like asking for directions down the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭Frynge


    jester77 wrote: »
    The navigation is a bit like asking for directions down the country.

    ye, you have to know your way already.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    jester77 wrote: »
    The navigation is a bit like asking for directions down the country.

    YEah, Bavarian accents are pretty fuccked alright


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 890 ✭✭✭CrinkElite


    I don't see what the problem is apart from the price tag. It's quite a nice site actually (firefox). Three or four clicks and I was looking at a list of hostels in Galway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭yeppydeppy


    smash wrote: »
    No it's not. Do your research.

    Alright, relax, it's in second place so is it? Either way even if it's dropped down to third a lot of people still use it, especially older people who are tourist types for the likes of Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Oh god it's not even responsive in any way on a mobile....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭ITS_A_BADGER


    3 million and its not even viewable on popular internet browsers, nice going Tourism Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭Poster Boy


    I am just after reading that this overpriced job wasn't even given to an Irish firm, but the site was imported from the UK. Just wrong on so many levels.

    Circa 33% of all external tourist visits to Ireland have Dublin as their only intended destination. Despite this only 6% of Tourism Ireland's marketing budget is spent on promoting Dublin.

    It is in the interests of anybody on this island who wishes to see tourism prosper that Dublin acts as an attractive gateway to the rest of the isle, as it is now increasingly the main air hub. This is apart from the fact that it has more attractions within a limited geographical area, comprises of 50% of the national population, and therefore makes sense to market.

    The recently established "Tourism Recovery Taskforce" has representatives from many different sectors on it, including Belfast City Council. And yet guess what, Dublin is not represented on it.

    Coincidentally, I note when one clicks "Destinations" on the new Ireland.Com website, the first 15 options include Antrim, Belfast, Cork and other destinations. It is only if one clicks "next" that an option for Dublin emerges.

    In the article on the Indo's website, Niall Gibbons CEO of Tourism Ireland states "It's less than 10pc of our marketing budget." If this is the way they spend our money it seems clear to me that it needs to be re-appropriated and such people let go from their jobs.

    Another expensive, fine days work by Irish authorities who increasingly give little cause for one to have confidence.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    looks like they've tried to emulate the new windows tab style,badly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,848 ✭✭✭Andy-Pandy


    My guess is most of that money was spent on the Domain name.

    Edit:A quick google shows that €495k was spent on it, what it gods name was the other 2.5 million spent on


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Andy-Pandy wrote: »
    My guess is most of that money was spent on the Domain name.
    Only a sixth of it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    Did they not use the voting machines to create it, but if not, sure it will give them the oppertunity to put 2 more sub sectors in place to fix it (make it user friendly), creating more jobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭Jaggy


    Andy-Pandy wrote: »
    My guess is most of that money was spent on the Domain name.

    500k for the domain name, bought from Irish times. So it's still a horribly overpriced website.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭sfwcork


    Im looking at it on an Ipad

    Its funky but some links dont actually work


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    I can't check how it looks in safari or chrome right now, but I just took a screen grab on my mobile opera browser. It seems like they're trying to convey the idea to tourists that Ireland is just a black hole. Not the best idea for promoting tourism-

    Scr000022.jpg

    To be fair you're using Opera Mini. Opera...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    For a layout like that, it sure looks dull and drab with that baby scutter green palette up against a static jpeg.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    They could have just played it simple for a lot less if they did something like this


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm



    To be fair you're using Opera Mini. Opera...


    No there's opera mini and opera mobile. I said just for giggles I'd see if it loads on the native Nokia browser (Oh hush :p), and for a site supposed to be optimised for mobile and tablet viewing, everything is all placeholders, nothing resizes or wraps, it's like they borrowed the style from an old photoshop template. It's still as slow as dogs too-

    Scr000024.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭Poster Boy


    Well I've heard that there's a recovery in the property market.

    Maybe I could interest the same suckers government in buying a really useful website regarding that.

    Call it "MyBlackHole.ie" and we'll settle for €50 million lids. Job done. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    Poster Boy wrote: »
    Well I've heard that there's a recovery in the property market.

    Maybe I could interest the same suckers government in buying a really useful website regarding that.

    Call it "MyBlackHole.ie" and we'll settle for €50 million lids. Job done. :pac:

    And there in lies the problem, we don't need lids, just ubber storage costs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭BobbyPropane


    Don't think the design cost that much

    SEO would cost a **** load and the website had to be translated into 11 languages so 3 million does not seem so bad .

    Design isn't great though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    The aesthetics are very mid-naughties and the functionality seems to be very clunky - not slick at all. You click on something and a random image pops up for like 2 seconds and you think 'oh that looks nice' then it wobbles a bit and then disappears without a trace and something else comes up.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭karma_


    Hard to believe they used the L word for Derry.


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