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School parking

  • 23-01-2013 10:33am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭


    Hi,

    This has probably been done to death so lock if needs be, I tried searching but most threads are quite old.

    So I live around the corner from a school which I've to pass to go to work and nearly every morning traffic is held up significantly because of the horrendous parking. This morning was the worst though, a mother parked on the path (blocking it for other pedestrians I assume) and when I pulled up next to her on the road I got an eyeful. Then her daughter got out and hit the handle on my car with the door, got another look and put down the window asking if there was damage, jigs and the reels she didn't apologise at all and there doesn't seem to be any damage done to the handle, slight nick but that could've been there previously.

    Anyway, is there anything that can be done to sort this out? This latest incident is just the icing on the cake, I can't get over the ignorance of these people and how it's affecting other drivers. If I write to the school will they do anything? Likewise the guards?

    And breathe!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    If I write to the school will they do anything? Likewise the guards?
    They won't if you don't, anyway! I'd contact both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    You could talk to the principal, but while many will try to park more considerately there are still some parents that ignore the letters that are sent home, and carry on regardless. I see the same offenders every Friday afternoon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    So I live around the corner from a school which I've to pass to go to work and nearly every morning traffic is held up significantly because of the horrendous parking.

    Define "horrendous parking".

    Are they parking illegally?
    Eg. double yellow lines, parking on a single lane where there's a solid white line in the middle of the road, near traffic lights etc ?

    Are there any signs to say not to park there ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭CorkClaire82


    Define "horrendous parking".

    Are they parking illegally?
    Eg. double yellow lines, parking on a single lane where there's a solid white line in the middle of the road, near traffic lights etc ?

    Are there any signs to say not to park there ?

    No signs but there are places with double yellow lines that they park in, possibly just "stop" to let the kids out but long enough to hold people up. I'll have a look at the white line situation. Mostly it's just ignorant parking - up on the path, out in the road where people can't pass, near the lollipop lady, all just very selfish rude parking. And yes, near to traffic lights also.

    Besides that they certainly shouldn't be letting their kids out on the road side and letting the children throw open the door and hitting people's doors. It just came to a head with me this morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Davidth88


    I often walk my 6YO to the local National School , and never fail to be amazed how selfish people are

    They can't let little ' Johnny or Jenny ' walk more than 2-3 yds , often park on the zig-zag lines , double park etc. The problem is 10 times worse when it's even slightly wet , after all a little rain and Johnny will melt !!!!

    It's the same people I reckon who would park inside Tesco's if they could , parking on the pickup points etc.

    Grinds my gears.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭johnayo


    Define "horrendous parking".

    Are they parking illegally?
    Eg. double yellow lines, parking on a single lane where there's a solid white line in the middle of the road, near traffic lights etc ?

    Are there any signs to say not to park there ?

    "A mother parking on the path" outside a school I should think is horrendous parking.

    We have a similar problem. The principal was never able to very much about it. A lot of parents just completely ignore any effort to eradicate it. A few years ago the Guards would show presence in the morning and evening and the parking would improve those days(although not in all cases).
    I reckon that some of these people would drive their cars in the front door of the school if there was access to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Davidth88 wrote: »
    I often walk my 6YO to the local National School
    Good for you. Until recently, I lived around the corner from a school and can sympathize with the OP. Driving kids to school, unless there's no other option, is teaching laziness. Hate to sound like an old fogey, but if kids spend their indoor hours infront of tellies and playstations, and their outside time in the back of a car to avoid a 10 minute walk, then all the healthy eating in the world won't sort out that childhood obesity...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭Tea 1000


    It's simple really... walk to school organisations from parents where parents take turns in walking a bunch of kids to school, collecting the young ones on the way, so that everyone is safe and healthy for the folk who live within walking distance, and school bus for the rest. It would provide employment, reduce congestion on roads, reduce pollution, and make everyone happy. Why the hell there's no incentive or initiative for the like of these plans anywhere is beyond me.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    For some reason alot of people think their children take priority to everything else.

    There is a creche in Raheny opposite the Dart station, each morning there are cars parked on double yellow lines swinging door open pointing in either direction. Sometimes with there lights blinding oncoming traffic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    I live beside a school, and the gardai are down here regularly to stop the madness. And it is absolutely crazy what people do. Parking cars on a roundabout....be grand...parking in someones drive....grand...stopped in the middle of the road for 10 minutes with hazard lights on...I could go on:p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭CorkClaire82


    I saw the guards there a few months ago but they didn't appear to be doing anything, the parking appeared to be as bad as ever but maybe I didn't notice as much.

    I'm writing to the principal now as it really is beginning to annoy me these days. It's cold at the moment so apparently the children can't possibly walk a few extra feet. I can understand having to drive your child to school, just park correctly and considerately.

    I could rant for a lot longer but I think it's kinder on you all if I don't bother :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Tea 1000 wrote: »
    It's simple really... walk to school organisations from parents where parents take turns in walking a bunch of kids to school, collecting the young ones on the way, so that everyone is safe and healthy for the folk who live within walking distance, and school bus for the rest. It would provide employment, reduce congestion on roads, reduce pollution, and make everyone happy. Why the hell there's no incentive or initiative for the like of these plans anywhere is beyond me.
    Those plans always strike me as mady-uppy solutions to realities that have only been perceived as problems in recent years.

    Old fogey here again. I went to primary school in the 80's. The school was a twenty minute walk from my front door. Everybody I went to school with walked. Every day. It wasn't a problem then, and it shouldn't be perceived as a problem now. These plans aren't really needed. I have a clear memory of being walked to school. 'Turn right here. Cross the road here. Wait for the green man. You can try it on your own tomorrow'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    No signs but there are places with double yellow lines that they park in, possibly just "stop" to let the kids out but long enough to hold people up. I'll have a look at the white line situation.

    Contact the local council roads division.
    Maybe take photos of the problem in the mornings, suggest extra double yellow lines, no parking signs, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭CorkClaire82


    I remember getting dropped a good bit around the corner from the school too and if it was raining tough, walk quicker!! Sounds very cantakerous of me to say but flip it. I don't mind driving your child to school, just ensure you park correctly when you get there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    stopped in the middle of the road for 10 minutes with hazard lights on...I could go on:p

    This drives me mad. I go past two schools on my way to work in the morning and the amount of arseholes who think its acceptable to just stop in the middle of the road to let their kids out is unbelievable.

    The other one that does my head in is that there is a large church carpark sitting empty in the morning beside one of the schools, but instead of directing all traffic and dropoffs into the car park, people are still allowed stop where they want out front of the school and cause chaos to the traffic. Madness.

    Whats wrong with school buses anyway? Why is it that so few of them seem to operate in this country?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    Contact the local council roads division.
    Maybe take photos of the problem in the mornings, suggest extra double yellow lines, no parking signs, etc.

    It wouldnt make a blind bit of difference in fairness. Sure youre not double parked if youre still in the car, or if you have your hazards on... :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭Tea 1000


    endacl wrote: »
    Those plans always strike me as mady-uppy solutions to realities that have only been perceived as problems in recent years.

    Old fogey here again. I went to primary school in the 80's. The school was a twenty minute walk from my front door. Everybody I went to school with walked. Every day. It wasn't a problem then, and it shouldn't be perceived as a problem now. These plans aren't really needed. I have a clear memory of being walked to school. 'Turn right here. Cross the road here. Wait for the green man. You can try it on your own tomorrow'.
    What's mady-uppy about it? You're boasting about how you walked 20 minutes to school in the 80's, and well done. I'm saying the same thing, the only difference is I'm saying that a group of humans presumably with brains all talk to each other using words and plan who goes with them. Sending someone with them doesn't nullify the idea just because you had no one with you in the 80's.
    The reality is today's world is different. There were scumbags back in my day (went to school in 80's too!) but back then everyone knew everyone else, so one of those scums touched your kid and their friends on their way to school, you talked to their parents, who came down like a ton of bricks on the scum. Today the parents would probably beat you up at the doorstep for saying something bad about their little Jimmy. There is probably 10 times more cars on the road, and worse... half of them are doing their makeup or watching TV in their feckin cars now, and driving at 3 times the speed they used to, so the roads are more dangerous.
    Even if all that I have said there is nonsense, and there is no danger, you can't convince people these days, so that's why you need what you call a "mady-uppy" solution to appease them. It's hardly difficult.
    And the school bus thing, well we had those in the 80's, lots of them. Can't see why we can't today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Tea 1000 wrote: »
    What's mady-uppy about it? You're boasting about how you walked 20 minutes to school in the 80's, and well done. I'm saying the same thing, the only difference is I'm saying that a group of humans presumably with brains all talk to each other using words and plan who goes with them. Sending someone with them doesn't nullify the idea just because you had no one with you in the 80's.
    The reality is today's world is different. There were scumbags back in my day (went to school in 80's too!) but back then everyone knew everyone else, so one of those scums touched your kid and their friends on their way to school, you talked to their parents, who came down like a ton of bricks on the scum. Today the parents would probably beat you up at the doorstep for saying something bad about their little Jimmy. There is probably 10 times more cars on the road, and worse... half of them are doing their makeup or watching TV in their feckin cars now, and driving at 3 times the speed they used to, so the roads are more dangerous.
    Even if all that I have said there is nonsense, and there is no danger, you can't convince people these days, so that's why you need what you call a "mady-uppy" solution to appease them. It's hardly difficult.
    And the school bus thing, well we had those in the 80's, lots of them. Can't see why we can't today.
    Woah! Ease up there! I'm not boasting. I'm just reminding people what the reality was. And not so long ago. Chill pill? ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    OP, I feel your pain. I've been there. Ignorant parking is sadly everywhere...

    When I lived in London, I lived between a primary school beside me and a high school over the road. The amount of times I've been boxed in, trying to get my car out to go work had to be seen to be believed. Time wasted trying to find the drivers, invariably women who 9 times out of 10 would be having a chat at the gates having dropped off their little darlings, and totally oblivious to the fact I needed to move my car.

    Got so p1ssed off, ended up flagging down a passing police car. They had a chat to the drivers, who shamefacedly moved their cars. For the next week or so, traffic wardens were stationed outside the school. Had a lovely clear run to work after that! :D

    We now live in an estate where there is a creche. By and large the parents are considerate in parking. But there have been a couple of times our drive has been blocked by cars. What gets me, is when we ask them to move, we get filthy looks. How DARE we ask them to move their illegally parked cars?? Next time, I might well call the Gards!! :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭Elessar


    Le sigh

    It's a symptom of an overprotective culture that surrounds us about children now. God forbid mammys little angels have to walk more than 30 seconds to get into school. I'm not that old but even in the early 90s when I was fairly young, I walked to school. It was a 20 minute walk, and I walked with a friend or on my own. If you are miles away I can understand bringing the kids in the car, but 90% of people I see at the local schools are not. Makes me want to throttle the parents.

    OP best to write to the school, and get on to the local superintendent to see if he can assist with some guards the odd morning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭RainyDay


    endacl wrote: »
    Good for you. Until recently, I lived around the corner from a school and can sympathize with the OP. Driving kids to school, unless there's no other option, is teaching laziness. Hate to sound like an old fogey, but if kids spend their indoor hours infront of tellies and playstations, and their outside time in the back of a car to avoid a 10 minute walk, then all the healthy eating in the world won't sort out that childhood obesity...
    And then to cap it all, the school will send out a 'be very careful' message about cyclists and walkers, sending a message that cycling or walking is really dangerous stuff and only for mad people. But will they send out a message asking drivers to slow down, or to give room to cyclists?
    Tea 1000 wrote: »
    It's simple really... walk to school organisations from parents where parents take turns in walking a bunch of kids to school, collecting the young ones on the way, so that everyone is safe and healthy for the folk who live within walking distance, and school bus for the rest. It would provide employment, reduce congestion on roads, reduce pollution, and make everyone happy. Why the hell there's no incentive or initiative for the like of these plans anywhere is beyond me.
    Tried the walking bus - the Board of Management wouldn't allow it - too risky apparently!
    I saw the guards there a few months ago but they didn't appear to be doing anything, the parking appeared to be as bad as ever but maybe I didn't notice as much.

    I'm writing to the principal now as it really is beginning to annoy me these days. It's cold at the moment so apparently the children can't possibly walk a few extra feet. I can understand having to drive your child to school, just park correctly and considerately.

    I could rant for a lot longer but I think it's kinder on you all if I don't bother :)
    Try social media - shoot a little video on your phone and put it up on Youtube - it might even go viral!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭CorkClaire82


    I sent an email to the school anyway, I bet they don't reply or they'll pay lip service to me but maybe I'm just jumping to conclusions before it arrives!

    You wouldn't mind but I was walking up there on Monday when the real smallies were being collected and a woman with a double buggy had to go off the path onto the road because a car was parked on the path, I should've taken a video there and then. She was walking the buggy while collecting her daughter so clearly it can be done.

    I'll let you know if I do actually get a response. I'll just have to get up earlier to be ahead of them in future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭Miaireland


    I know the residents near one of the school where I live contacted the Council about it. They arrange for a traffic warden to be up outside the school for a random days for a few weeks. Apparantly her hand was nearly falling off her with all the illegal parking. They doesn't seem to the same problem anymore.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Councils and An Garda just turn a blind eye.
    Otherwise there'd be tow trucks on standby to remove the obstructions. A few incidences of vehicle removals would do wonders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,259 ✭✭✭Rowley Birkin QC


    snubbleste wrote: »
    An Garda just turn a blind eye.
    .

    Au contraire mon petit fromage.

    I've seen the Guards out a few times across the road from WestWood in Clontarf. There's a school there and it's a regular scene of blatant abandonment.

    Was delighted one morning to see a lady driving a people carrier being given a talking to for blocking up a lane of traffic needlessly.


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    There was a thread on here not so long ago where a Garda outside a school was giving a ticket to a woman parked illegally dropping her kids off. When all the other parents started verbally abusing the Garda saying stuff like "you should be going after the bankers" etc etc

    The sort of logic these people have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭Tea 1000


    RainyDay wrote: »
    Tried the walking bus - the Board of Management wouldn't allow it - too risky apparently!
    Board of management have no say on how your kids get to school. Ye bottled it too early I reckon!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭RainyDay


    Tea 1000 wrote: »
    Board of management have no say on how your kids get to school. Ye bottled it too early I reckon!

    They can't stop parents organising stuff informally between themselves. But they can (and did) stop a proper walking bus, where all parents in the school are invited to participate.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    Write to the school, if you must, but it may well be that the principal is at their wit's end with the parking issue already. Despite repeated appeals, the same parents will do what they always do and abuse anyone who askes ot do otherwise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭ian87


    When it comes to parking/dropping SOME parents just don't give a proverbial.. I'm a teacher myself with a car with so many small scratches on it from school bags and car doors banging it etc etc.
    Mothers tend to be worse at it thinking once they have dropped their kids off they have the god given right to stop and chat out the doors of the car and block the whole place. I have witnessed first hand parents blocking teachers spaces as the teacher waits to get into their space. Result: teacher delayed.. Same people would be first ones to complain of the teacher being late etc. inconsiderate behaviour knows no bounds...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Davidth88 wrote: »
    ....after all a little rain and Johnny will melt !!!!

    Maybe if they bought little Johnny a bleedin' coat he might be a bit better equipped to deal with a little rain.

    What is it with Irish schoolkids and not owning / wearing coats. I see them most mornings (even recently) just dillydallying around in their school jumpers.

    Is wearing a coat considered uncool or what's the story?

    /

    Sorry, I'll have some deep breaths and go crack open a bottle of wine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭CorkClaire82


    Write to the school, if you must, but it may well be that the principal is at their wit's end with the parking issue already. Despite repeated appeals, the same parents will do what they always do and abuse anyone who askes ot do otherwise.

    I did write to the school because I did feel I must. I was not accusatory or blaming the school but something needs to be done as this is not an acceptable way to carry on. If the school don't reply/say they can do nothing I will either contact the local guards or my council rep. I kinda understand what you are saying but if I (or others) just left it then they could possibly get worse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭ThreeLineWhip


    Befriend your local Garda or traffic warden and these problems will vanish instantly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭marketty


    Same crap on my road, thankfully i'm usually gone early in the morning, but i occasionally work evenings so am heading out at about 3, the ignorance and entitlement of the yummy mummy brigade is unreal. I must add I live in a small town, the vast majority of kids must live a max 10 min walk away.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,696 ✭✭✭Lisha


    wexie wrote: »

    Maybe if they bought little Johnny a bleedin' coat he might be a bit better equipped to deal with a little rain.

    What is it with Irish schoolkids and not owning / wearing coats. I see them most mornings (even recently) just dillydallying around in their school jumpers.

    Is wearing a coat considered uncool or what's the story?

    /

    Sorry, I'll have some deep breaths and go crack open a bottle of wine.

    Had to reply
    I LOLed bitterly at your post about kids not wearing school coats
    My son has a collection of coats that he will outgrow in perfect condition as he won't bloody wear them
    He reluctantly wears it going into school after we discussing it all way to school but never at breaks . None of them do

    Parking is a disgrace at our school
    It makes sense at our school not to park directly at gate so no car will pass in path of child walking but same few parents won't obey. I don't think anything would get them to alter their parking
    Bom PTA principal all involved but to no avail


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,163 ✭✭✭ZENER


    Residents living near St. Colmcilles National School in Swords are only too aware of this one ! My 2 kids went to this school, we lived about 3 miles from it, and only on days where the weather was severe did I drive them. Chaos doesn't come close to describing the area in the mornings.

    Feeling a bit 'vigilantic' one day, when I was collecting my daughter, I stood at the zig zags where a large 4WD always parked up fully on the path right at the crossing. On cue the 4WD arrived and mounted the curb, I didn't move, several blows of the horn later the driver got out and started shouting at me ! I told her it's a footpath and I was perfectly entitled to stand anywhere on it I liked. She said she wanted to park there and that I should move, at this stage the lollipop lady came over, pointed out the double yellow, proximity to the pedestrian exit gate of the school, the yellow ziz-zags and the pedestrian crossing and told the driver that she wasn't allowed to park on the path at which point the woman freaked, got back into her car and attempted to bully me away by driving slowly towards me !! I stood firm and she stood on the horn. We had a stand off so to speak. After a minute or so and with other parents now staring she gave up, rolled down her window and reeled of some words they definitely do not teach in school :)

    It felt good ! The next day I was there again, she didn't want a repeat and drove away ! Result !

    About 2 years ago the County Council marked the whole area with Pay & Display spaces, ticket machines and regular visits by parking attendants !

    Ken


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭ardmacha


    Was delighted one morning to see a lady driving a people carrier being given a talking to for blocking up a lane of traffic needlessly.

    Talking to is all very good, but fines are needed. Perhaps temporary wardens should be appointed, like crossing wardens, for morning and evening.

    I'd also suggest a double fine for all offences within 100m of school during its hours of operation.

    However this attitude is international
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UTM40K53K8


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,906 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    My little ones school send out a letter every year with a list of stuff...general time keeping, what to do on sick days etc. In the middle of the page in bold capital letters is the rule of NO PARKING IN THE SCHOOL GROUNDS.....except for lard arse in her q7 who couldn't possibly do like the rest of us and park a 5 minute walk away on the neighbouring streets. I despise the look of this fat blonde troll...ffs the walk would do her the power of good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭OldmanMondeo


    School parking is a disgrace. I have dropped my kids a few times, but the mother in-law usually does., Her car has been damaged twice, once requiring a respray on a door, the second time from someone using her car as brakes. Some other fat old cow parked in the bus bay and refused to move when the bus came, even though the drop off parking was empty.

    OP, get onto the school, get onto the council, get on to the gaurds, get onto the residents association and get on to your local councilor and or TD. Raise a bit of hell over it. Get the local paper to run a story about residents being blocked in their own homes from people to lazy to get the kids to walk to school...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    I see this every day being a teacher.

    Parents abandon cars on the road, car park or where ever they feel. They then walk the kids INTO THE CLASSROOM..........I teach in a Secondary School.

    I've had to ask parents to leave the school area a number of times as they are not allowed past the security doors for various reasons.

    The kids never get the chance to grow up and mess a bit but that's another arguement.

    Don't worry though, they don't just do it outside the school. One parent every morning without fail parks in the bus/cycle lane without fail forcing everyone to swing around her. There is lots of space for her to park on the driveway, and very wide footpath if she wishes. I have politely asked her to park correctly in the past but to no avail.

    I've started walking to school now as the standard of driving as I approach the school is the morning is shocking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,953 ✭✭✭granturismo


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    I see this every day being a teacher.

    Could you or some of the other school staff on this thread please tell me why my daughter's school bag is 25% of her body weight - she's in 5th class, slightly small for her age and not overweight.

    She will not be walking to school carrying this weight on her back but then we live 12 miles from her school.

    Even if we lived within walking distance she will not be carrying that weight. The school banned wheelie bags because they wont fit into the baskets at their desks and kids were tripping over them in the yard and corridors.

    She has to bring all these books home to do her homework. Its not unreasonable for teachers to tell 10 year olds at the end of each day what books they need to take home, just in case they might be able to leave some in school - I suggested this to the teacher and Parents association but the school cant implement this simple procedure.

    I park in a car park nearby (no charge to park there) and carry my daughter's bag to the school gate. A significant number of other parents cause the usual jams by parking in the bus bays, on double yellow lines, on pathways.

    Some of these areas such as the bus bay are on school property. If the school and gardai want to solve the problem - the school can ban offending cars from their property and the gardai can issue parking tickets every day and the problem will disappear within a few days. It seems that principals or boards of management and most garda managers dont want the hassle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    Could you or some of the other school staff on this thread please tell me why my daughter's school bag is 25% of her body weight
    No but if you ask the board of management they'll tell you to ask the Minister for Education who will in turn tell you it's up to each board of management to implement a solution.

    When you return they'll tell you they can solve the problem overnight by getting everyone ipads so long as parents are happy to pay the costs involved.

    At this point parents will decide it's someone elses problem and that they won't pay for it upon which time they'll take their large family wagon and park it like a ignorant ****er on the footpath/road/zebra crossing.

    At no time will anyone ask the teacher yet everyone will feel it's up to the teacher to solve a problem which nobody consults them on but which everyone feels is their fault.

    Even here, on a motoring forum, they won't get a moments break from parents who feel it's their right to park like a spastic because nobody else will pay for ipads for their increasingly overweight kids

    I've heard it all before but I still don't understand why it gives people the right to park so ignorantly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭mb1725


    The sight of one of these would remove the problem in a couple of days!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Define "horrendous parking".

    The parking by some parents outside of schools.
    Are they parking illegally?

    Yes
    Eg. double yellow lines, parking on a single lane where there's a solid white line in the middle of the road, near traffic lights etc ?

    Are there any signs to say not to park there ?
    Yes

    Nearly ever school in the country has similar problems. We'd pay off all the bankers gambling debts if the Gardaí/parking wardens ticketed illegally parked cars outside schools.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,953 ✭✭✭granturismo


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    No but if you ask the board of management they'll tell you to ask the Minister for Education who will in turn tell you it's up to each board of management to implement a solution...

    At this point parents will decide it's someone elses problem and that they won't pay for it upon which time they'll take their large family wagon and park it like a ignorant ****er on the footpath/road/zebra crossing.

    At no time will anyone ask the teacher yet everyone will feel it's up to the teacher to solve a problem which nobody consults them on but which everyone feels is their fault.

    Even here, on a motoring forum, they won't get a moments break from parents who feel it's their right to park like a spastic because nobody else will pay for ipads for their increasingly overweight kids

    I've heard it all before but I still don't understand why it gives people the right to park so ignorantly

    The buck continues to be passed. Whats the minister got to do with it. All my daughter's teacher has to do is tell them which books to pack at the end of each day when they check the homework journal. Simple cost free solution. Ipads are are a ridicoulous overengineered solution to replace hardcopies with an ereader. €400 out of my pocket to be replaced whenever its dropped.

    If the principal, board of management and gardai have the guts to solve the parking problem then it will get solved.

    If ingornant lazy parents can leave the house a little earlier and park somewhere safer then the parking issue wouldnt exist. Or maybe walk and carry the bags for their kids.

    Not all kids can walk or cycle to school.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    The buck continues to be passed.
    No it doesn't. As a teacher (parents don't get this at times) I'm the lowest rung on the ladder of communication.

    As the school is run by a board of management it's them you need to speak to about reducing the weight of school bags.

    I was in a school before which actively selected lighter books in smaller copies that were specific to each year but parents complained about the cost of constantly changing the text books. Rightly so.

    Ipads break and work out more expensive than anything else. They are a current fad.

    I've attempted to reduce homework to reduce weight and parents kicked up a stink and complained to the board of management that i wasn't doing my job.

    I've attempted to communicate with other teachers to devise a homework plan but it's difficult to implement even if you can get them to agree to it.

    However I still fail to see why any of that belong in a motoring forum and more so why it gives people the right to park in a very self centered manner.

    Maybe you should just talk to the teacher involved. It's entirely possible they have merely over looked the fact them giving homework causes people to park like idiots. I do accept you park around the corner so maybe you should point it out to less considerate people. .................or would that be another case of someone continuing to pass the buck


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    OP, did you complain?
    Give us an update.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭CorkClaire82


    Sorry, wasn't logged in and didn't see this until now.

    I got no reply but it seemed to be better this week and then this morning it was all blown up again, cars on the footpath where there were double yellow lines, doors opening into traffic, all the usual high jinks. And I was feeling so positive and all :P

    If it's this bad next week again I think I might get onto the guards or the local Councillor.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    I park about 3 mins walk away from the school - no traffic at all. We then toodle up the road, passing the many mpv's and suv's full of angry and anxious clock watching parents as they break traffic lights, and compete for 3 or 4 prime spaces outside the school gates.

    Honestly it's comical and takes maybe 10 mins. longer for them to stop, get the kids out (whilst the blood pressure of the queue behind them hits new highs) and get around the block and back into the heavy traffic.

    People can be unbelievably stupid sometimes. What's worse is the same people make the same mistakes every day.


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