Time for a 21st century Whiteboy movement?

Vigilante Vinnie

For those of you that don't know, the Whiteboys were a secret militia organizatin active in Ireland in the 18th century.

The protected poor farmers from evicition, excessive rack-rents, church taxes and other forms of oppression. More info here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiteboys

In the face of 21st century oppression and it's consequences, ie evictions, economic ruin, unbearable stress, suicide, is it time for an updated version?

I'm not trying to start a secret militia here, just asking if these actions would be justified today.

landsleaving

Sounds like a group of rapping neo-nazis.

COYVB

You'd have to change the name, they'd have to be called "Non-specific coloured people of non-specific gender"

It's not quite as catchy

mattjack

Yessssssssssssss , flaming torch and pike time.

Zen65

Vigilante Vinnie wrote: »

I'm not trying to start a secret militia here, just asking if these actions would be justified today.

No, they would not.

Z

Iwasfrozen

Vigilante Vinnie wrote: »

Time for a 21st century Whiteboy movement?

No. This is not the 18th century and people are responsible for any debts resulting from bad choices they made.

Vigilante Vinnie

COYVB wrote: »

You'd have to change the name, they'd have to be called "Non-specific coloured people of non-specific gender"

It's not quite as catchy

I think in some parts of the country they were called Steelboys so we could go with this?

looksee

Steelpersons?

COYVB

Yeah it'd have to be steelpersons

mattjack

Vigilante Vinnie wrote: »

I think in some parts of the country they were called Steelboys so we could go with this?

No , it would have to be Steelpersons , to keep the wimmins happy.

Collie D

Where's the option for "From Dublin, couldn't give a **** about farmers"?

landsleaving

I like that, much more inclusive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icIwKaci3MI

Vigilante Vinnie

looksee wrote: »

Steelpersons?

I'm good with that

Nodin

mattjack wrote: »

Yessssssssssssss , flaming torch and pike time.

Cattle-maimin FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Truncheon Rouge

those whiteboy guys sound pretty fly

landsleaving

Truncheon Rouge wrote: »

those whiteboy guys sound pretty fly

You're thinking of the whiteguys, totally different group.

Vigilante Vinnie

Collie D wrote: »

Where's the option for "From Dublin, couldn't give a **** about farmers"?

The 21st century version could fight oppression across Ireland, urban and rural.

RobbingBandit

Collie D wrote: »

Where's the option for "From Dublin, couldn't give a **** about farmers"?

We in Dublin should give a **** if you think about it, all those damn farmers in the Dail deserve a good hiding.

landsleaving

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Silverline-GT20-Muckfork-Wood-Handle/dp/B000LFVUT4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1358714976&sr=8-1

Killer Wench

Doesn't the history of most crime organizations begin with the good intention of protecting the community or family?

Wicklowrider

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

No. This is not the 18th century and people are responsible for any debts resulting from bad choices they made.

Go and tug the aul forelock to Seany and Bertie and your other poster boy bollixs somewhere else and give us a rest

PC CDROM

Vigilante Vinnie wrote: »

For those of you that don't know, the Whiteboys were a secret militia organizatin active in Ireland in the 18th century.

The protected poor farmers from evicition, excessive rack-rents, church taxes and other forms of oppression. More info here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiteboys

In the face of 21st century oppression and it's consequences, ie evictions, economic ruin, unbearable stress, suicide, is it time for an updated version?

I'm not trying to start a secret militia here, just asking if these actions would be justified today.

You do realise most of the "pitchfork" brigade on the internet are just pussies in real life? yeah?

Vigilante Vinnie

PC CDROM wrote: »

You do realise most of the "pitchfork" brigade on the internet are just pussies in real life? yeah?

It'll require an admin wing.

Truncheon Rouge

I like this idea of a secret organization with a motivation similar to what you have described, not necessarily an intense pike and torch type thing, more along the lines of anonymous. But local.

Maybe corruption itself could be corrupted from the inside occasionally, of course it would have to organize like anonymous or with some kind of cell structure like the ra did.

I think we all like seeing the odd schleeveen getting turned over.

The internet makes this possible like never before.

mattjack

Vigilante Vinnie wrote: »

It'll require an admin wing.

And a catering team.

Collie D

RobbingBandit wrote: »

We in Dublin should give a **** if you think about it, all those damn farmers in the Dail deserve a good hiding.

Strange! I wrote mine as fú€k but read yours as $h1t.

Truncheon Rouge

PC CDROM wrote: »

You do realise most of the "pitchfork" brigade on the internet are just pussies in real life? yeah?

Nobodys going to pay attention if we don't make a bit of a stink.

laoch na mona

sure why not

Vigilante Vinnie

mattjack wrote: »

And a catering team.

You offering your services?

twinQuins

Vigilante Vinnie wrote: »

The 21st century version could fight oppression across Ireland, urban and rural.

What oppression?

Vigilante Vinnie

twinQuins wrote: »

What oppression?

Really?

pockets3d

Did they write that "Born Slippy" song ?
It was mega

Vigilante Vinnie

pockets3d wrote: »

Did they write that "Born Slippy" song ?
It was mega

We'll call you a maybe.

twinQuins

Vigilante Vinnie wrote: »

Really?

Unless you're talking about China or someplace similar then yes, really.

Vigilante Vinnie

twinQuins wrote: »

Unless you're talking about China or someplace similar then yes, really.

You may return to your bubble.

If you've done nothing wrong, you won't be hearing from us again.

Hypothetically hearing from us of course..... :cool:

pockets3d

Vigilante Vinnie wrote: »

We'll call you a maybe.

Ooooh I love that song, Karl Ray Jepsens so hot !

dvpower

twinQuins wrote: »

What oppression?

From the OP

Vigilante Vinnie wrote: »

In the face of 21st century oppression and it's consequences, ie evictions, economic ruin, unbearable stress, suicide, is it time for an updated version?

So I think the idea is that this new group would identify people who are under financial stress or suicidal or whatnot and help these people by ..... and I'm not clear on this part, but I think it involves breaking someone elses legs.

twinQuins

Vigilante Vinnie wrote: »

You may return to your bubble.

If you've done nothing wrong, you won't be hearing from us again.

Hypothetically hearing from us of course..... :cool:

Is this the revival of a historical movement or The Matrix? Should I expect to receive two pills soon? What about guns and martial arts?

gobnaitolunacy

Yes, I've really had it with that absentee landlord and his poncy agent with his muttonchop whiskers and bowler hat.

Vigilante Vinnie

dvpower wrote: »

So I think the idea is that this new group would identify people who are under financial stress or suicidal or whatnot and help these people by ..... and I'm not clear on this part, but I think it involves breaking someone elses legs.

Your not far off. Find those responsible for the consequences forced upon the victims of corruption, fraud and political cheating and do what needs to be done. I don't see anyone else stepping up, do you?

Our legal system? Nope

Our politicians? Nope (them being responsible for a lot of it)

'Civil Society'? Nope

I'm open to other suggestions, if you care to offer any but many of us feel something must be done.

Vigilante Vinnie

twinQuins wrote: »

Is this the revival of a historical movement or The Matrix? Should I expect to receive two pills soon? What about guns and martial arts?

I'm sure those with guns and martial arts skills would be welcome within this movement.

Extra kudos if you bring your own nunchucks.

dvpower

Vigilante Vinnie wrote: »

Your not far off. Find those responsible for the consequences forced upon the victims of corruption, fraud and political cheating and do what needs to be done. I don't see anyone else stepping up, do you?

Our legal system? Nope

Our politicians? Nope (them being responsible for a lot of it)

'Civil Society'? Nope

I'm open to other suggestions, if you care to offer any but many of us feel something must be done.

The bolded bit is where your plan falls down imo. If you think that breaking legs is 'what needs to be done', then I'll have to declare myself out.

Have you though much about an alternative peaceful political approach?

Vigilante Vinnie

dvpower wrote: »

Have you though much about an alternative peaceful political approach?

It's just not happening though is it?

Truncheon Rouge

Vigilante Vinnie wrote: »

Your not far off. Find those responsible for the consequences forced upon the victims of corruption, fraud and political cheating and do what needs to be done. I don't see anyone else stepping up, do you?

Our legal system? Nope

Our politicians? Nope (them being responsible for a lot of it)

'Civil Society'? Nope

I'm open to other suggestions, if you care to offer any but many of us feel something must be done.

The gardai will help.

Vigilante Vinnie

Truncheon Rouge wrote: »

The gardai will help.

And join the armed struggle against oppression?

I wasn't counting on their support but if you're offering it great (hypothetically ). I'm taking it by your username you speak on their behalf?

dvpower

Vigilante Vinnie wrote: »

It's just not happening though is it?

Nope. Neither is this Whiteboys idea.
But which would be more effective? Breaking bones might provide some instant gratification (if that's what you get off on), but probably not lasting change.

Collie D

Vigilante Vinnie wrote: »

The 21st century version could fight oppression across Ireland, urban and rural.

All right. I'm in on but on a couple of conditions. I get to lead the Dublin Brigade but only on a part time basis and fit the hours around work. If I'm on operations and there's something good on TV you have to Sky+ it for me. Same for big football matches, you have to text me the scores. What qualifications do you have to lead us?

mattjack

Collie D wrote: »

All right. I'm in on but on a couple of conditions. I get to lead the Dublin Brigade but only on a part time basis and fit the hours around work. If I'm on operations and there's something good on TV you have to Sky+ it for me. Same for big football matches, you have to text me the scores. What qualifications do you have to lead us?

My terms will be similar , but I need Friday nights and Saturday mornings off .
I can get hold of a small tank , if need be too.

Collie D

mattjack wrote: »

My terms will be similar , but I need Friday nights and Saturday mornings off .
I can get hold of a small tank , if need be too.

If I do every second Friday night for you can I borrow your tank?

mattjack

Collie D wrote: »

If I do every second Friday night for you can I borrow your tank?

Yeah, but I just got to find somewhere for the Goldfish.

Collie D

mattjack wrote: »

Yeah, but I just got to find somewhere for the Goldfish.

I feel dirty being used for that punchline