6 week body transformations package

jockeyboard

hi guys,

just wondering what the people in the know think of these offers? i have seen a few of them around in local classes and they usually consist of:

1-diet info
2-6 weeks of classes, kettle bells/trx etc
3-some personal training input one on one.

the photos on facebook etc look pretty impressive and make me want to join one but i am just wondering if the results can be mantained once you start to eat normally again, also they are extremly pricey (300yoyos and more for the 6 weeks) i know personal training is expensive but would i be better off just doing a kettle bells/trx/ spin class myself and try to stop eating crap?

any info would be great.

i am northside dublin if that makes any difference with recommendations etc:D

i am not a total fatty but may head that way if i dont sort myself out,
female 10 and a half stone, size 10-12. most fat on my belly:( and giant ass:(:( fairly big thunder thighs:(:(:( but currently doing zero excercise.

usually when i excercise i can lose weight pretty quickly and slim down, however i am not getting any younger etc and am thinking maybe if i gave 100% to one of these expensive programes i could get rid of my jelly belly once and for all:cool:

nice_guy80

jockeyboard wrote: »

hi guys,

just wondering what the people in the know think of these offers? i have seen a few of them around in local classes and they usually consist of:

1-diet info
2-6 weeks of classes, kettle bells/trx etc
3-some personal training input one on one.

the photos on facebook etc look pretty impressive and make me want to join one but i am just wondering if the results can be mantained once you start to eat normally again, also they are extremly pricey (300yoyos and more for the 6 weeks) i know personal training is expensive but would i be better off just doing a kettle bells/trx/ spin class myself and try to stop eating crap?

any info would be great.

i am northside dublin if that makes any difference with recommendations etc:D

i am not a total fatty but may head that way if i dont sort myself out,
female 10 and a half stone, size 10-12. most fat on my belly:( and giant ass:(:( fairly big thunder thighs:(:(:( but currently doing zero excercise.

usually when i excercise i can lose weight pretty quickly and slim down, however i am not getting any younger etc and am thinking maybe if i gave 100% to one of these expensive programes i could get rid of my jelly belly once and for all:cool:

how much?

Zombienosh

jockeyboard wrote: »

i am just wondering if the results can be mantained once you start to eat normally again

What is eating normally?
If the past has been temporary diets and exercise and then afterwards going back to eating whatever you want it's probably the reason why you say this...

i could get rid of my jelly belly once and for all:cool:

I think you need permanent changes whether small or big, but doing a diet/workout plan for X amount of weeks and going back to "normal" eating is where you're falling down.

jockeyboard

nice_guy80 wrote: »

how much?

think the packages for 6 weeks are about 300 squid

my eating is pretty poor as in i eat everything:)

i would eat plenty of healthy food, most meat, fish, chicken eggs, veg (not great on the fruit) loads of potatoes,rice, pasta-my portion sizes are waaaaay to big. dont use salt for cooking etc but would defo have it in the way of processed foods. also i am a bread junky.

my biggest problem is i regularly GORGE on junk, crisps, sweets and chocolate

Zombienosh

jockeyboard wrote: »

think the packages for 6 weeks are about 300 squid

my eating is pretty poor as in i eat everything:)

i would eat plenty of healthy food, most meat, fish, chicken eggs, veg (not great on the fruit) loads of potatoes,rice, pasta-my portion sizes are waaaaay to big. dont use salt for cooking etc but would defo have it in the way of processed foods. also i am a bread junky.

my biggest problem is i regularly GORGE on junk, crisps, sweets and chocolate

Well there ya go. No exercise plan or no amount of money will undo a bad diet.

jockeyboard

Zombienosh wrote: »

Well there ya go. No exercise plan or no amount of money will undo a bad diet.

so basically i am fooked?:(

what is the worst part of my diet do you think? giant portion sizes? excess bread/potatos? choc and crisps?

Zombienosh

Have a look at the nutrition stickies, focus on sorting your diet out first.

here you, read through this.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055157091

Michael 09

Being fit or in shape is about consistency. You can't get the results you want then go back to old and bad habits without expecting to go back looking like your old self.

Bottom line, if your diet doesn't change then neither will you.

Nervous Wreck

jockeyboard wrote: »

also they are extremly pricey (300yoyos and more for the 6 weeks)

You want to change your life for the better and are scared of spending 300quid on it over 6 weeks? Put it into perspective. We've all got mates who'd spend that on two weekends of drinking. Not that I'm endorsing any of these classes specifically but tbh I'd happily spend €300 for some good training!

cmyk

jockeyboard wrote: »

also they are extremly pricey (300yoyos and more for the 6 weeks) i know personal training is expensive but would i be better off just doing a kettle bells/trx/ spin class myself and try to stop eating crap?

It's a real pity people don't value their health and this profession a bit more. If they are good at their job, you'll learn a ton. Certainly as you don't seem to know much about where you're going wrong too.

I realise to some people 300euro is not a small amount of money, but there are those I know blow that on a couple of nights out too. I don't know where you fit on that scale but saying that 300euro for 6 weeks training and advice is incredibly ignorant.

I have an idea I know who you're talking about and if so they seem to be a pretty knowledgeable group. In saying that, there are pretty poor trainers copying other systems, but a quick visit and a few questions should determine that.

Hanley

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

You want to change your life for the better and are scared of spending 300quid on it over 6 weeks? Put it into perspective. We've all got mates who'd spend that on two weekends of drinking. Not that I'm endorsing any of these classes specifically but tbh I'd happily spend €300 for some good training!

cmyk wrote: »

It's a real pity people don't value their health and this profession a bit more. If they are good at their job, you'll learn a ton. Certainly as you don't seem to know much about where you're going wrong too.

I realise to some people 300euro is not a small amount of money, but there are those I know blow that on a couple of nights out too. I don't know where you fit on that scale but saying that 300euro for 6 weeks training and advice is incredibly ignorant.

I have an idea I know who you're talking about and if so they seem to be a pretty knowledgeable group. In saying that, there are pretty poor trainers copying other systems, but a quick visit and a few questions should determine that.

That and that.

It's the most frustrating part of all this. People spend that in a month on drink and junk food to destroy their health, but won't spend the same to maintain it.

juke

As someone who is spending slightly less for this type of package at the moment, I can't recommend it highly enough. I've tried, with various results, going alone to gyms, bootcamps, jogging, and other weekly cardio classes. I always started off with great intentions, and the effort always slowly dwindled.

The fact that they can tailor a session to your individual needs/wants, depending on your goals/weaknesses/injuries, and keep you focussed on improving your fitness weekly, is huge.

What I found out, through trial and error, is that you need to find a personal trainer that suits your personality. I found that otherwise I wasn't inclined to 'listen' to them.

However, their knowledge on nutrition is also a major factor in losing weight and getting fitter. I already had a fair idea of where I was going wrong,with my eating habits. However, I've now learned I have a definite intolerance to wheat. I've been reading about issues with wheat on this and other forums for years, but it took a bit of nagging to get me to at least to test it out

I'm far happier to have foregone a few nights out with friends, and to have used the money saved in this way, to have achieved what I have to date - knowing I've lost 6 kilos in a few months, and I've changed my eating habits, and I feel and am far healthier than I have been in years.

Zamboni

Here is a secret.

You don't need to spend a penny.

Read and do. Read and do.

1. Macronutrients (basic maths)
2. Macronutrients for fat loss (basic math with some subtraction)
3. Bodyweight workouts (tons on youtube)

Your jelly belly is from a sh1t diet -
Not from the lack of paying some licensee €300 to do <insert fad exercise here>.

Gummy Panda

Lads don't be harsh on OP questioning price. You aren't looking from outside in so have an idea what value is in the fitness industry.

cmyk

Zamboni wrote: »

Here is a secret.
You don't need to spend a penny.

Very true, I could also do my accounts myself, but I pay a professional to do it for a number of reasons.

Zamboni wrote: »

Read and do. Read and do.

Read what? The internet? Boards? Look at the threads in this very forum and some of the ridiculous advice given out. Myself and others attempt to give out some helpful advice, but it's lost amongst the myths, old wives tales and sometimes plain horses**t in the rest of the thread. Advice for free I might add. The trainers who post here do so because they want to see people genuinely improve their health and spend their time to do so.

People simply can't tell good from bad. I'd suspect that's exactly why unfortunately some of the other professionals in the industry don't post much anymore.

Zamboni wrote: »

1. Macronutrients (basic maths)
2. Macronutrients for fat loss (basic math with some subtraction)
3. Bodyweight workouts (tons on youtube)

You're already assuming a basic knowledge there, but you'd be amazed how many people have quite simply no idea how bad their diet is.

Don't get me wrong eleventy billion people have managed to get themselves in shape without a personal trainer, nor are my saying that everyone needs their own trainer, I'm talking about the value.

Bodyweight workouts are fine, but i've had people come to me from this very forum that have been lifting and training for years, doing starting strength or following other plans with sometimes dangerous form.

Zamboni wrote: »

Your jelly belly is from a sh1t diet

Yep, so people hit the internet in their droves, and the marketing of different diets and fad exercises is so convincing that people will spend their money on what's a pretty emotive subject. Intermittent fasting is suggested in nearly every thread at this stage, that was 2012 and for 2013 I'm predicting carb back-loading will be in vogue.

Knockout_91

jockeyboard wrote: »

female 10 and a half stone, size 10-12. most fat on my belly:(

What height are you?

Zamboni

cmyk wrote: »

Very true, I could also do my accounts myself, but I pay a professional to do it for a number of reasons.


Read what? The internet? Boards? Look at the threads in this very forum and some of the ridiculous advice given out. Myself and others attempt to give out some helpful advice, but it's lost amongst the myths, old wives tales and sometimes plain horses**t in the rest of the thread. Advice for free I might add. The trainers who post here do so because they want to see people genuinely improve their health and spend their time to do so.

People simply can't tell good from bad. I'd suspect that's exactly why unfortunately some of the other professionals in the industry don't post much anymore.

You're already assuming a basic knowledge there, but you'd be amazed how many people have quite simply no idea how bad their diet is.

Don't get me wrong eleventy billion people have managed to get themselves in shape without a personal trainer, nor are my saying that everyone needs their own trainer, I'm talking about the value.

Bodyweight workouts are fine, but i've had people come to me from this very forum that have been lifting and training for years, doing starting strength or following other plans with sometimes dangerous form.

Yep, so people hit the internet in their droves, and the marketing of different diets and fad exercises is so convincing that people will spend their money on what's a pretty emotive subject. Intermittent fasting is suggested in nearly every thread at this stage, that was 2012 and for 2013 I'm predicting carb back-loading will be in vogue.

Fvck, you got one hell of a lot out of my post :pac:
I'm not even sure if you are arguing with me or not tbh.

cmyk

Zamboni wrote: »

I'm not even sure if you are arguing with me or not tbh.

Nope...I took todays boards fitness posts frustrations out on that one ; )

juke

Zamboni wrote: »

Fvck, you got one hell of a lot out of my post :pac:
I'm not even sure if you are arguing with me or not tbh.

I think he didn't touch on one aspect, which many in here simply cannot and constantly fail to grasp. Many many people need a catalyst, or support, or a kick in the ass.

I am inherently lazy, any excuse sends me home to sit on the couch, and eat a whole tiramisu. I know how to exercise, I know how I should be eating, but it takes investing my hard earned cash to force me to see it through. Sad but true.

Well done you, if you are strong enough of character to do that alone, most of us aren't.

Tigger

juke wrote: »

I am inherently lazy, any excuse sends me home to sit on the couch, and eat a whole tiramisu. I know how to exercise, I know how I should be eating, but it takes investing my hard earned cash to force me to see it through.

no one can motivate you it comes from inside.

jockeyboard

just checked back in here and was surprised to see the amount of replies, thanks to all those who have taken the time.

firstly, sorry if i seem stupid, i never claimed to know it all, hence why i am looking for advice. if i knew what i was doing that was so bad and what was right sure i could be a trainer myself!

for all those saying 300 is what prople spend on few nights out etc, that is massive money for me actually. and i hardly drink at all. i go out maybe once every two months.

i was not saying one on one time spent by a trainer, nutritional advice etc was not worth it, thus somehow obviously insulting some of you, i was merely asking what did you think of it all so i could understand better was this a good route for me.

there are lots of ways to lose weight etc on the market that are a fad, even i know this and alot of them are very expensive. therefore i wanted to know would this type of programme be good for someone like me or would something else be better.

like someone said it may seem like stupid questions for you when you have all the info but as they say on who wants to be a millionare, its only easy when you know the answer! it is extremly daunting knowing where to start and look when there is so much different methods, info and fads outthere!

lastly i am 5 foot 6!

Zamboni

cmyk wrote: »

Nope...I took todays boards fitness posts frustrations out on that one ; )

I understand. Let it out.

juke

Tigger wrote: »

no one can motivate you it comes from inside.

Yes. You are right. But something needs to feed the motivation.

For me, at the moment, it's the pain in my pocket. Same goes for many.

But thinking about your comment more, lack or energy, tiredness and really tight clothes, made me make that phone call to my current gym. That's my motivation. I know that's not enough for me, I need more to keep me on track. Food wise I'm grand. Exercise...I have to force myself to do stretches.

The OP is wondering if PT packages are worthwhile. Depends on where she's at. Suppose from my point of view, through experience, yes, but only if she really is open to some real and frank home truths about her eating habits, and has a prepardness to change.

The gym part......weights are really fun and cool and damned hard and I look forward to every session. Money well spent for me.

Knockout_91

For a 5"6 lady that weighs 10 and a half stone, I find it hard to believe that you've a "huge belly," "GIANT ass", and "THUNDER thighs" (your description gave me a good giggle!)

Perhaps you are been way too harsh on yourself?

Sure you also said you're a size 10, as they say "a perfect 10!"

Transform

i say go for it as the very least you will learn is how to more effctively train yourself and how far you have to go or have come by the end of 6 weeks

Mickery

Hi OP,

this popped up in my e-mails today. Looks similar to what you were looking at. Costs €75. No idea who these guys are or if they're any good but I see they offer a refund if you change your mind in the first week.

http://megadeals.pigsback.com/megadeal/62335?&utm_source=Local&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=20130117

Zamboni

€15 for a personal training session?
Fvck no. Waaay too expensive.
I can get one for €6.50 from a homeless guy on Abbey St.

jockeyboard

Knockout_91 wrote: »

For a 5"6 lady that weighs 10 and a half stone, I find it hard to believe that you've a "huge belly," "GIANT ass", and "THUNDER thighs" (your description gave me a good giggle!)

Perhaps you are been way too harsh on yourself?

Sure you also said you're a size 10, as they say "a perfect 10!"

haha, thanks....will refrain from pming you a photo of giant belly/ass!

jockeyboard

Mickery wrote: »

Hi OP,

this popped up in my e-mails today. Looks similar to what you were looking at. Costs €75. No idea who these guys are or if they're any good but I see they offer a refund if you change your mind in the first week.

http://megadeals.pigsback.com/megadeal/62335?&utm_source=Local&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=20130117

thanks for thinking of this thread! think would prefere to go with guys i already know.....great price though!

jockeyboard

Zamboni wrote: »

€15 for a personal training session?
Fvck no. Waaay too expensive.
I can get one for €6.50 from a homeless guy on Abbey St.

you are wasted on boards....should defo be on stage:D

xgtdec

Zamboni wrote: »

€15 for a personal training session?
Fvck no. Waaay too expensive.
I can get one for €6.50 from a homeless guy on Abbey St.

The abbey st guy is gone:(..there is however a guy on clarendon st doing 5 second abs....worth a look!!;)

SunnyDub1

OP,

If you have the €300, I would suggest doing it as it would be a great starting point for you.

You should also consider just joining a gym? Most gyms offer monthly installment payment.
Majority of gyms give will give a starting programme when you join, this usually includes an exercise program and food plan, but it's down to your own initiative to motive yourself to do the exercise and follow a healthy eating pattern.

jockeyboard

xgtdec wrote: »

The abbey st guy is gone:(..there is however a guy on clarendon st doing 5 second abs....worth a look!!;)

5 second abs?

insert<aint nobody got time fo that meme>

jockeyboard

SunnyDub1 wrote: »

OP,

If you have the €300, I would suggest doing it as it would be a great starting point for you.

You should also consider just joining a gym? Most gyms offer monthly installment payment.
Majority of gyms give will give a starting programme when you join, this usually includes an exercise program and food plan, but it's down to your own initiative to motive yourself to do the exercise and follow a healthy eating pattern.

thanks for your input, was wondering if it would be better to spend money on gym as i would get longer time for same money:D....am going to save up and try the 6 week course i think as i need the one on one motivation!

SunnyDub1

jockeyboard wrote: »

thanks for your input, was wondering if it would be better to spend money on gym as i would get longer time for same money:D....am going to save up and try the 6 week course i think as i need the one on one motivation!

If you are not will to put in the work yourself you will never achieve.

If you pay for the 6 week program what are you going to after it, exercise wise ?

Would you not be best paying for 1 year gym membership, get a starters program and go to the classes on in the gym for motivation.

So imo it would be better to spend the money on membership.

detoxkid

OP I say go for it. I do a pretty similar programme myself and find it fantastic, worth every penny. I'm around the same size as you but it's toned me up no end. I started doing it for 12 weeks and do it full time now, but relax the diet at weekends or for holidays. It works for me. The big thing is having someone to motivate and monitor you. If you are able to motivate and monitor yourself then save your money and start jogging/do an exercise dvd for toning and watching what you eat.

jockeyboard

Just to update.....went ahead and did this. Found it brilliant, lost over a stone, loads of body fat and inches. Feel myself stronger and fitter. The diet part was simple to follow. Now that its finished just hope i can keep up with the healthy lifestyle.

All in all it was a great experience and i am delighted i did it. Perfect for me who needed major motivaton.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Congratulations, these programs may not be revoluntary and a lot of people can find the information online. However handing over your hard earned wedge and having to go somewhere to be weighed and measured is a kick up the arse. It is also public commitment to change.

After you have started you can start to weight the pros and con and give a damn about IF, low card, high carb, carb cycling, protien/fats/carbs ratio, exercise volume, HIIT versus Steady state cardio and all that bull**** that really doent matter unless your elite.

Move more, eat less, rest and dont drink too much...simples.

Mully_2011

300 quid would get you a years membership in a gym.

JungleJuice

jockeyboard wrote: »

Just to update.....went ahead and did this. Found it brilliant, lost over a stone, loads of body fat and inches. Feel myself stronger and fitter. The diet part was simple to follow. Now that its finished just hope i can keep up with the healthy lifestyle.

All in all it was a great experience and i am delighted i did it. Perfect for me who needed major motivaton.

Thanks for letting us know, and well done!!!! I have read through the thread and still not sure of where offers these 6 week courses, where can you do them. How many nights a week do you train?? I need motivation big time. i know once i get started i will maintian it myself afterwards in the gym....

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Mully_2011 wrote: »

300 quid would get you a years membership in a gym.

So, it could buy 100 pint of beer also. The fact is most on here would gladly pay 300 euro to loose a stone. Its about the motivation and discipline. If you have that already then your not the target market for these boot-camps. The ammount that the OP will have learned re nutrition and exercise in invaluable and they know this information works, which is more than can be said for a lot of the advice on the internet

hunkymonkey

I did a body transformation last year, it was a six week programme. I normally coach myself in triathlon, all distances up to ironman. Main sport was boxing for 16+ years. Found the programme excellent, Couldn't fault it in anyway. I lost a lotta weight (10+kgs, but had it to lose). The fitness it gave me a new zest for sport was the main part I took from it. Big convert to HIIT but still able to do endurance events, recently did a 3.07 marathon and I'm well over 90kgs.
The only thing though, programme wouldn't suit everyone, I liked it because I liked working out. If ya don't like working out, I'd presume that would be a bit of a stumbling block.
I did it in genesis in Baldoyle with Keith, couldnt fault it, but there are other places out there.

hunkymonkey

Just as an add on, there are plenty of things I could have done with the money, joined another gym, bought books eyc but I knew a lot of the info anyway. It was more about the coaching and having 'nowhere to hide' when it came to the sessions and the fact I didn't want to let him down. Sounds silly but that's the way it was for me.