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Double Checking

  • 17-01-2013 11:20am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭


    There before the Christmas I spotted a lovely jumper being displayed on the shops window so I went in and searched for it but to no avail.
    I asked the (very pretty ) attendant if they had any and she said she would double check.
    This got me thinking, if she hadn't checked once how could she double check it and if she went off to double check it was she incapable of checking it once and showing signs of incompetence.
    They didn't have any anyway but it seemed from there on at work and in the service industry everywhere where I went people have to "Double check" this and" Double check" that.
    It really is annoying that the next time someone says it I am going tell them to just check it once and Ill be on my way.
    Have you noticed the overuse of this phrase.
    Discuss.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    It means they'll check carefully, rather than having a quick browse around.

    Worst thread ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭davetherave


    You checked and didn't find any, she will now go and check for you.

    Check & Check = Double Check.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    There before the Christmas I spotted a lovely jumper being displayed on the shops window so I went in and searched for it but to no avail.
    I asked the (very pretty ) attendant if they had any and she said she would double check.
    This got me thinking, if she hadn't checked once how could she double check it and if she went off to double check it was she incapable of checking it once and showing signs of incompetence.
    They didn't have any anyway but it seemed from there on at work and in the service industry everywhere where I went people have to "Double check" this and" Double check" that.
    It really is annoying that the next time someone says it I am going tell them to just check it once and Ill be on my way.
    Have you noticed the overuse of this phrase.
    Discuss.

    You're not very gruntled, are you?


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    She was showing signs of incompetence because she offered to double check something for you?

    Right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭SunnyDub1


    shop assistances are usually aware of what stock they have in and what they haven't got in.

    The shop assistance you where dealing with was probably aware they hadn't got any in stock, but just to do her job and be 100% sure they hadn't got in in stock she went to "double check"

    IMO it would be a lot worse if she just said there wasn't any in stock and didn't bothering going to double check in the event that someone might have returned this item and there was one in stock :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭BUBBLE WRAP


    Was it a nice jumper op? :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    You've already checked, so she's doubling your failed efforts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    As someone said if they just said no the customer would get all shmarmy so its better just to say you'll 'double check' and go to the stock room and have a laugh with the lads there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭BUBBLE WRAP


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    As someone said if they just said no the customer would get all shmarmy so its better just to say you'll 'double check' and go to the stock room and have a laugh with the lads there

    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭ITS_A_BADGER


    geez id say your a laugh on a night out :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    It really is annoying that the next time someone says it I am going tell them to just check it once and Ill be on my way.
    Have you noticed the overuse of this phrase.
    Discuss.


    I've often noticed that some people are bothered by the most ridiculous things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    This guy might be more your speed, OP.



  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    I've often noticed that some people are bothered by the most ridiculous things.

    Semantic Pedantic!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭Lando Griffin


    Was it a nice jumper op? :)

    Yes it was but I saw a chap with one on our work-night and he was quite the prat in it so luckily I didn't purchase.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭wyndham


    Why didn't you buy the one in the window?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭Knockout_91


    There before the Christmas I spotted a lovely jumper being displayed on the shops window so I went in and searched for it but to no avail.
    I asked the (very pretty ) attendant if they had any and she said she would double check.
    This got me thinking, if she hadn't checked once how could she double check it and if she went off to double check it was she incapable of checking it once and showing signs of incompetence.
    They didn't have any anyway but it seemed from there on at work and in the service industry everywhere where I went people have to "Double check" this and" Double check" that.
    It really is annoying that the next time someone says it I am going tell them to just check it once and Ill be on my way.
    Have you noticed the overuse of this phrase.
    Discuss.

    It really baffles me the way certain unfunny threads get several likes yet this gets none (except for mine). I found this absolutely hilarious! If I overheard a man say to a shop assistant "no no, don't double check, just check it once and ill be on my way", I think I'd explode laughing... It's so weird it's funny

    Tough crowd OP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    The customer is always right stupid


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    When you asked her to check did she say "I'll do it now in a minute"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    I agree OP. A shop assistant who doesn't know what they have in stock should be sacked on the spot. I'm not joking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Where To wrote: »
    I agree OP. A shop assistant who doesn't know what they have in stock should be sacked on the spot. I'm not joking.

    Good, because im not laughing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Where To wrote: »
    I agree OP. A shop assistant who doesn't know what they have in stock should be sacked on the spot. I'm not joking.

    In SQ (and I'm sure other supermarkets) they get deliveries every night. I don't see how anyone could possibly know what's in stock all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭DavyD_83


    Where To wrote: »
    I agree OP. A shop assistant who doesn't know what they have in stock should be sacked on the spot. I'm not joking.

    The first check, is them checking in their head. second check is making sure there's none buried down the back room somewhere, or depending on their mood it's popping out back for appearances sake.

    As mentioned above, there are a LOT of customers who won't just take your word for it if you say something is out of stock - even if in your head you know it hasn't been in stock for weeks.

    I'd have found it kind of funny if the OP said he had said all this to the girl. But no, he was so irritated about it that he waited til he got home to whine on the internet.

    Some days I'm really glad I don't work in retail any more.
    There are a lot of customer service bashing threads round here, some are valid, some are just crap customers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    In SQ (and I'm sure other supermarkets) they get deliveries every night. I don't see how anyone could possibly know what's in stock all the time.
    Why wouldn't they?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Where To wrote: »
    I agree OP. A shop assistant who doesn't know what they have in stock should be sacked on the spot. I'm not joking.
    Do you mean that they should know what's in stock and whats not off the top of their heads without checking? If the staff in the likes of Argos had that ability, they'd be far too over qualified for the job


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    shaaane wrote: »
    Do you mean that they should know what's in stock and whats not off the top of their heads without checking? If the staff in the likes of Argos had that ability, they'd be far too over qualified for the job
    I'm pretty sure that in Argos they have a computer that does that for them. In a normal run of the mill clothes shop, not knowing what you have in stock stinks of laziness and apathy. In my opinion.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    Where To wrote: »
    I agree OP. A shop assistant who doesn't know what they have in stock should be sacked on the spot. I'm not joking.

    So every worker in the store should know the exact details of all stock levels without being allowed to check the system for clarity?

    Slightly unrealistic, no?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Dave0301 wrote: »
    So every worker in the store should know the exact details of all stock levels without being allowed to check the system for clarity?

    Slightly unrealistic, no?
    What's unrealistic about being able to do your job properly?


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Where to, are you trolling?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Where To wrote: »
    What's unrealistic about being able to do your job properly?
    Should every taxi driver know exactly where they're going without the need of directions, map or sat nav?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    shaaane wrote: »
    Should every taxi driver know exactly where they're going without the need of directions, map or sat nav?
    In my opinion, yes they should. If you're going to do a job half arsed, you're better off staying at home. I don't expect people to know everything, but I do expect them to do their best to know everything possible about their job. Anything else is substandard as far as I'm concerned.

    Probably a good job I don't own a shop eh?:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Where to, are you trolling?
    No, Miss.:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    Where To wrote: »
    What's unrealistic about being able to do your job properly?

    Well if in a supermarket you expect a member of the floor staff to know the stock levels of each and every section of the shop without been allowed to consult the system, that I would say is unrealistic.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Where To wrote: »
    No, Miss.:(

    I was really hoping you were.

    Take Penneys for example. They get new stock every single day. They stock hundreds and hundreds of different items, people buy those items, return those items, try on those items and leave them in changing rooms, pick up those items and leave them down on the other side of the shop, all day, every day. You expect each and every minimum wage member of staff to know where every single item of stock is at any given time.

    Go on out of that will you, you have more cop on than that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Dave0301 wrote: »
    Well if in a supermarket you expect a member of the floor staff to know the stock levels of each and every section of the shop without being allowed to consult the system, that I would say is unrealistic.
    Yeah in a busy supermarket I would agree with you, but then again, busy supermarkets existed before computers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    Where To wrote: »
    Yeah in a busy supermarket I would agree with you, but then again, busy supermarkets existed before computers.

    Yes they did, but if that was the case the stock inventory would be a hard copy and a list of that day's deliveries would be on file. The staff could check this against what the customer inquired about.

    I worked in retail for 8 years, I would always have a good idea about what was missing from my section for the day but I would be frequently queried about other sections too. Am I meant to learn off all stock levels and off sales for every section before my shift in case I am asked about other sections?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 305 ✭✭Jimminy Mc Fukhead


    she said she would double check.

    Fucking bitch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    I was really hoping you were.

    Take Penneys for example. They get new stock every single day. They stock hundreds and hundreds of different items, people buy those items, return those items, try on those items and leave them in changing rooms, pick up those items and leave them down on the other side of the shop, all day, every day. You expect each and every minimum wage member of staff to know where every single item of stock is at any given time.

    Go on out of that will you, you have more cop on than that.
    You see Whoopsa, this is the bit I have a problem with, why should what wage you earn be related to what's expected of you in your job? I worked a lot of sh1t jobs for sh1t money in my time but I did my damndest in every single one of them. I don't expect staff to be like Rainman, but I do expect staff that try to be the best they can be. In a busy environment I know it's unrealistic to know the exact number of every item in stock, but is knowing to the nearest 10 as unrealistic?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Dave0301 wrote: »
    Yes they did, but if that was the case the stock inventory would be a hard copy and a list of that day's deliveries would be on file. The staff could check this against what the customer inquired about.

    I worked in retail for 8 years, I would always have a good idea about what was missing from my section for the day but I would be frequently queried about other sections too. Am I meant to learn off all stock levels and off sales for every section before my shift in case I am asked about other sections?
    Working there for eight years, would you not have a general idea of what is going on in other sections without having to learn off anything?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    Where To wrote: »
    Working there for eight years, would you not have a general idea of what is going on in other sections without having to learn off anything?

    Absolutely, I worked in every section at one stage or another. However, why would I know off by heart the stock levels of the whole shop for any given day? If I did an order for my section I would but people get moved around.

    Would you expect part time staff who come in to work at the weekends or evening to before hand learn off all the stock levels?


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Where To wrote: »
    You see Whoopsa, this is the bit I have a problem with, why should what wage you earn be related to what's expected of you in your job? I worked a lot of sh1t jobs for sh1t money in my time but I did my damndest in every single one of them. I don't expect staff to be like Rainman, but I do expect staff that try to be the best they can be. In a busy environment I know it's unrealistic to know the exact number of every item in stock, but is knowing to the nearest 10 as unrealistic?

    Fair enough, forget about the wages. Everything else in my post stands. It is entirely unrealistic to know how much of each item is in stock in the whole store. It is ludicrous to expect that of anyone.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Dave0301 wrote: »
    Absolutely, I worked in every section at one stage or another. However, why would I know off by heart the stock levels of the whole shop for any given day? If I did an order for my section I would but people get moved around.

    Would you expect part time staff who come in to work at the weekends or evening to before hand learn off all the stock levels?
    I wouldn't expect them to learn by rote the stock level of every item, no.

    However, I would expect them to have a reasonably good idea of the stock level of every item in store.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Fair enough, forget about the wages. Everything else in my post stands. It is entirely unrealistic to know how much of each item is in stock in the whole store. It is ludicrous to expect that of anyone.
    We'll have to agree to disagree then.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Where To wrote: »
    We'll have to agree to disagree then.

    Just one question. Take Penneys again as an example, you're a Dublin taxi man I think so say Mary St Penneys - big store.

    How do you think a member of staff would go about finding out the levels of each item of stock?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Where To wrote: »
    We'll have to agree to disagree then.

    Hate it when people agree to disagree.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    OP, I believe ther is poster here called 'fact hunt' or similar. He may be able to help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Just one question. Take Penneys again as an example, you're a Dublin taxi man I think so say Mary St Penneys - big store.

    How do you think a member of staff would go about finding out the levels of each item of stock?
    By knowing what stock comes in, and knowing what stock is on the floor. As you say, due to returns, walkabouts, soilage etc. it would be impossible to have an accurate figure, but a reasonable estimate isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

    I'm in Donegal by the way, but know Mary St. very well.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Where To wrote: »
    By knowing what stock comes in, and knowing what stock is on the floor. As you say, due to returns, walkabouts, soilage etc. it would be impossible to have an accurate figure, but a reasonable estimate isn't beyond the realms of possibility.


    Ah here Where to, the OP was trivial as far as I was concerned, taking umbrage at the use of a common expression could've gone in the "things people say that annoy you thread", and I was with you as far as a small shop was concerned- say in a woolen shop where you might have only two of said OP's jumpers in stock, but to suggest that the best in Tesco, working in the fruit and veg section should know how much digestive biscuits stock is on the floor and how much is out in the back room; that's a bit like expecting you to know some backwater back road that only the locals in say a town like Charleville would know.

    I know you're probably going to be the one exception to that rule that navigates by the stars or something! :D


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Where To wrote: »
    By knowing what stock comes in, and knowing what stock is on the floor. As you say, due to returns, walkabouts, soilage etc. it would be impossible to have an accurate figure, but a reasonable estimate isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

    I'm in Donegal by the way, but know Mary St. very well.:)

    So even taking into consideration your logic, it's not unreasonable for someone to "double check" if an item is in stock?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    Ah here Where to, the OP was trivial as far as I was concerned, taking umbrage at the use of a common expression could've gone in the "things people say that annoy you thread", and I was with you as far as a small shop was concerned- say in a woolen shop where you might have only two of said OP's jumpers in stock, but to suggest that the best in Tesco, working in the fruit and veg section should know how much digestive biscuits stock is on the floor and how much is out in the back room; that's a bit like expecting you to know some backwater back road that only the locals in say a town like Charleville would know.

    I know you're probably going to be the one exception to that rule that navigates by the stars or something! :D
    Only know the main roads around there, although you could call them back roads heading by Kanturk and Liscarrol and places like that.:pac:
    So even taking into consideration your logic, it's not unreasonable for someone to "double check" if an item is in stock?

    In busy place like Pennys and Tesco? Not at all unreasonable

    In smaller more specialised stores? Different story, in my opinion.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd



    So even taking into consideration your logic, it's not unreasonable for someone to "double check" if an item is in stock?

    Sounds to me like that is checking if an item is in stock. If he went back again after checking and checked again that would be double checking.


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