Ford Mondeo Ghia 2.0 petrol in carcraft Dublin

Gavman84

Hi all
Friend is looking at this car http://www.carzone.ie/search/Ford/Mondeo/NT-GHIA-/31113560276608990/advert?channel=CARS
Has anyone dealt with this garage? He has driven it and likes the car. I told him to do motorcheck report on it anyway. Anything to look out for on these? Don't think it's a Ffv model but told him check. Offering 3 month warranty I said ask for longer one. Seems very cheap similar cars going for 10-12k!
Thanks
Gav

Gavman84

Anyone know the service intervals on these and the real world mpg? Are they fairly reliable?

miller50841

http://whatmpg.co.uk/Ford%20MPG%20information.html

Some info above.

Will you be doing big journey's if so go diesel.

It's going cheap as petrol cars are not selling.

Gavman84

Hey miller
Thanks for reply. The buddy won't be doing much mileage so I think petrol should do him fine and lot better value to be had. Looking at another thread the price doesn't seem too far off what people think and anyone bought from that garage?

R.O.R

If it's non FFV then it's every 20k (km) service intervals. FFV's are every 10k.

Those wheels look like an upgrade - never seen the wooden wheel before. From memory, Leather was either expensive, or not an option. Seem to remember getting leather retro fitted on a couple of Mondeo's in 08. Possibly an import?

Looks well though, and for someone not doing diesel mileage, it will be a bargain compared to the equivalent diesel.

166man

Seems nice except those wheels are too small for the car even though they look big enough, just a cosmetic thing though so can be easily changed. Looks good value too with excellent spec although the wood interior wouldn't be to my tastes.

Not much I can think of off the top of my head to be wary on them other than do the usual checks. Other posters might be able to give you more information on that aspect.

Gavman84

I was thinking might be an import too I told him to do motor check report to check that and other stuff. Is the price fair for age and spec seems very good value? Thanks ROR for that info ill let him know. Would people expect more than a 3 month warranty with car of this age?

bazz26

Looks like the speedo is in kph so more than likely not an import. History check should be done either way.

Det. McNulty

It's funny, we all want cheap prices but then when somebody really slashes we get nervous. I'm not mocking that, I'm the same. What do ye think of this Mondeo, bit over priced at 10,950 I would think?

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Ford/Mondeo/TITANIUM/201240210374972/advert?channel=CARS

Gavman84

Ya that one is quiet expensive. Titanium is higher spec but the Ghia above is high spec and seems to have some extras. That one has higher miles too and is Ffv so is harder on fuel I think and needs servicing twice as often too so think one I linked Is a lot better value!! Would love either myself tbh!

Det. McNulty

All being as it should be with the car the Dublin one is a right bargain. Because the diesel equivalent is 10,500 to 11,500. So while tax is higher and fuel is higher you'd be a long time making up the difference. Not mad on the ghia wood panels but you'd live with that and it's a great spec.

bazz26

Det. McNulty wrote: »

It's funny, we all want cheap prices but then when somebody really slashes we get nervous. I'm not mocking that, I'm the same. What do ye think of this Mondeo, bit over priced at 10,950 I would think?

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Ford/Mondeo/TITANIUM/201240210374972/advert?channel=CARS

Yes, a work collegue bought a 2008 Mondeo 2.0 petrol (non FFV) Titanium X with small mileage from a main Ford dealer back in mid 2011 for €11,500 straight. The FFVs are very heavy on fuel and that was nearly 18 months meaning that one should be well below €10k now. The Ghia the OP is looking at is way better value.

Det. McNulty

Do the FFVs have a worse mpg than a straight up petrol then? Even when you are just using petrol in them?

Gavman84

Ya they do as far as I know meant to run on biofuel but not lot of stockists for that anymore so stuck with regular fuel which they are harder on.

Det. McNulty

We could see a few more of those 2.0s follow suit with Carcraft and dramatically reduce in price. Wonder how long a dealer would keep a car before doing that.

HJL

OP car was NCT'd 10-01-2013 and is only up to 24-02-2014, doesnt that mean that it was due a test in Feb 2012? A car less than 10 years old gets 2 years test, I'd find a car that new strange to have a no NCT for nearly a year? Maybe not though, although even if it was sitting in the forecourt for that length after being traded in i would have thought the garage would have done the test on it straight away to improve the chances of a sale?

Just thinking out loud.

kravmaga

Gavman84 wrote: »

Hi all
Friend is looking at this car http://www.carzone.ie/search/Ford/Mondeo/NT-GHIA-/31113560276608990/advert?channel=CARS
Has anyone dealt with this garage? He has driven it and likes the car. I told him to do motorcheck report on it anyway. Anything to look out for on these? Don't think it's a Ffv model but told him check. Offering 3 month warranty I said ask for longer one. Seems very cheap similar cars going for 10-12k!
Thanks
Gav

Nice motor for that price, get a full history /finance check done on www.mywheels.ie first

Also you can search the garage on the www.cro.ie or www.solocheck.ie see who the directors/owners are, how long in business etc.

I would push for a 6 month warranty at least.

Your friend needs to look at the running costs, petrol, motortax, etc

Other than that it looks like a very good price for the high spec.

bop1977

HJL wrote: »

OP car was NCT'd 10-01-2013 and is only up to 24-02-2014, doesnt that mean that it was due a test in Feb 2012? A car less than 10 years old gets 2 years test, I'd find a car that new strange to have a no NCT for nearly a year? Maybe not though, although even if it was sitting in the forecourt for that length after being traded in i would have thought the garage would have done the test on it straight away to improve the chances of a sale?

Just thinking out loud.

No its a 2008, so would be due a test in 2012 for 2 years lasting up to 2014. It doesnt matter when the test was done it will only get a cert up to 2014.

Det. McNulty

Is there a reason why car adverts don't put up the car reg? Always makes me nervous of the car. Example, one of many, here: http://www.carzone.ie/search/Ford/Mondeo/1.8-TDCI/813256738876470/advert?channel=CARS

bop1977

Det. McNulty wrote: »

Is there a reason why car adverts don't put up the car reg? Always makes me nervous of the car. Example, one of many, here: http://www.carzone.ie/search/Ford/Mondeo/1.8-TDCI/813256738876470/advert?channel=CARS

Uk import and not VRTed or registered in Ireland.

Gavman84

HJL wrote: »

OP car was NCT'd 10-01-2013 and is only up to 24--2014, doesnt that mean that it was due a test in Feb 2012? A car less than 10 years old gets 2 years test, I'd find a car that new strange to have a no NCT for nearly a year? Maybe not though, although even if it was sitting in the forecourt for that length after being traded in i would have thought the garage would have done the test on it straight away to improve the chances of a sale?

Just thinking out loud.

would have been due test in 2012 so test to 2014 then so it's correct. also friend had 2.0 petrol already so running costs not an issue for him. he has done the check and all seems fine too it's Irish car too. cheers for all the feedback he is going to buy alright it looks like.

TRS30

R.O.R wrote: »

If it's non FFV then it's every 20k (km) service intervals. FFV's are every 10k.

Those wheels look like an upgrade - never seen the wooden wheel before. From memory, Leather was either expensive, or not an option. Seem to remember getting leather retro fitted on a couple of Mondeo's in 08. Possibly an import?

Looks well though, and for someone not doing diesel mileage, it will be a bargain compared to the equivalent diesel.

Are you sure about the service on FFV's are 10K?

When I bought mine I rang two Ford garages who said it was every 20K.

Gavman84

TRS30 wrote: »

Are you sure about the service on FFV's are 10K?

When I bought mine I rang two Ford garages who said it was every 20K.

ya it says on ford site that it's 20km or 1 year but ffv need interim 10k oil change too.

Det. McNulty

TRS30 wrote: »

Are you sure about the service on FFV's are 10K?

When I bought mine I rang two Ford garages who said it was every 20K.

TRS, how are you getting on with yours re mpg and overall reliability? There is a big cost jump to get the diesel equivalent so I am thinking of chancing one.

TRS30

Gavman84 wrote: »

ya it says on ford site that it's 20km or 1 year but ffv need interim 10k oil change too.

Thanks; will check this out. I assume every service does an oil change so I get one every 10K then it should be OK?

Det. McNulty wrote: »

TRS, how are you getting on with yours re mpg and overall reliability? There is a big cost jump to get the diesel equivalent so I am thinking of chancing one.

Have only had it about a month and not done any decent length journeys so far can't really comment on the mpg. No issues so far (touch wood) and have to say it is the one of the most comfortable and smooth cars I have driven. The only thing I would recommend is to get parking sensors, it's a big car!!

Gavman84

TRS30 wrote: »

Thanks; will check this out. I assume every service does an oil change so I get one every 10K then it should be OK?



Have only had it about a month and not done any decent length journeys so far can't really comment on the mpg. No issues so far (touch wood) and have to say it is the one of the most comfortable and smooth cars I have driven. The only thing I would recommend is to get parking sensors, it's a big car!!

Ya i imagine if you service it every 10k km it will be fine. ya i say the oil would be done every time it's serviced alright.

TRS30

Gavman84 wrote: »

Ya i imagine if you service it every 10k km it will be fine. ya i say the oil would be done every time it's serviced alright.

I just rang a different Ford garage there and after speaking to about 3 different people they confirmed that the oil should be changed every 10K!!!

This is very worrying as it has a full Ford service history (every 20K) so shouldn't the first Ford garage not had said it needed to be done every 10K. Previous owner (from new) was company car so no cost to them getting oil done every 10K. Was last done at 61K and is 67K now so will get the oil done at 71K

Am worried now what damage might have been done to the engine.

Gavman84

TRS30 wrote: »

I just rang a different Ford garage there and after speaking to about 3 different people they confirmed that the oil should be changed every 10K!!!

This is very worrying as it has a full Ford service history (every 20K) so shouldn't the first Ford garage not had said it needed to be done every 10K. Previous owner (from new) was company car so no cost to them getting oil done every 10K. Was last done at 61K and is 67K now so will get the oil done at 71K

Am worried now what damage might have been done to the engine.

i wouldn't worry too much just service it as your meant to from now and hopefully it will be fine. ford engines are fairly strong and take abuse better than others not that they should have to!

TRS30

Gavman84 wrote: »

i wouldn't worry too much just service it as your meant to from now and hopefully it will be fine. ford engines are fairly strong and take abuse better than others not that they should have to!

Hopefully! I asked if there was anyway to tell if the engine had been damaged and he said no as would in the pistons etc.

Det. McNulty

This web page says "Ford have no special maintenance requirements for their E85 ethanol flex-fuel vehicles"

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-efficiency/vehicles/the-consumer-guide-to-e85-vehicles1.htm

Have done a bit of searching and can't see much reference to special requirements anywhere. So it's probably fine.

larchill

I see the road tax is €614 - on an 08? Surely an 08 should be on the CO2 system & be less?:(

TRS30

Det. McNulty wrote: »

This web page says "Ford have no special maintenance requirements for their E85 ethanol flex-fuel vehicles"

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-efficiency/vehicles/the-consumer-guide-to-e85-vehicles1.htm

Have done a bit of searching and can't see much reference to special requirements anywhere. So it's probably fine.

When you go to the Ford website and find service intervals there is a PDF that opens and on the bottom of this it say 10K oil changes for FFV models.

The guy in the Ford garage also said it uses a different oil so probably one best to get done at Ford garage then try yourself.

Gavman84

larchill wrote: »

I see the road tax is €614 - on an 08? Surely an 08 should be on the CO2 system & be less?:(

if you use co2 system its 750 if you use cc system it's 710 on these Mondeos! the one i linked is on cc obv.

Det. McNulty

Yeah there is another thread on this with people saying every 10k for a service.

The 2008s are all mixed in terms of tax depending on which part of the year they were registered. Some are CC and some are based on emissions.

R.O.R

Det. McNulty wrote: »

Yeah there is another thread on this with people saying every 10k for a service.

The 2008s are all mixed in terms of tax depending on which part of the year they were registered. Some are CC and some are based on emissions.

I'd say anything that was in stock in 08 was registered on the 30th June if it wasn't already sold. Have a mid June reg for Kildare in 08 that was just shy of 7000 so the one in the OP was quite a bit before June.

We have a 2.0i FFV Titanium about to be replaced. That was registered on the 30th June while it was still on route from the factory, to avoid the VRT increase.

Det. McNulty

What was your experience like with the 2.0i FFV Titanium R.O.R?

R.O.R

Det. McNulty wrote: »

What was your experience like with the 2.0i FFV Titanium R.O.R?

Wasn't my car. Leased to a customer, and I'm still not sure why it wasn't ordered as a Diesel to begin with.

Looks like we didn't stick to the 10k service intervals :rolleyes: 22k, 43k, 61k are when it was serviced.

Fuel pump in tank was replaced at 60k after it lost power. Wouldn't start shortly after that and the temp sensor was replaced.

Only seems to have had 6 tyres since new and should be around the 80k mark now. 235/45/17 tyres aren't cheap, but aren't the worst.

Not listed on the history, but I'm sure it's had the start/stop button done under warranty as well - seemed to happen on all the Titanium X models.

Det. McNulty

Would you see any reason to avoid them? Trying to decide between one and a 1.8 diesel, but to get the appropriate diesel is 2-3k more and I wouldn't have massive mileage.

MuppetCheck

Family sold one recently. Had a clutch problem sorted by Ford for free, nothing else went wrong at all. Will do 40 on a cruise but in traffic expect low 20s. Never felt particularly quick, in my opinion it's a lot of motor tax for the power available and the engine felt strained when you were pushing it.

The 2 litre diesel is far superior, but then you pay a lot more for that and it won't suit low mileage too well in the long term I'd imagine.

TRS30

R.O.R wrote: »

Wasn't my car. Leased to a customer, and I'm still not sure why it wasn't ordered as a Diesel to begin with.

Looks like we didn't stick to the 10k service intervals :rolleyes: 22k, 43k, 61k are when it was serviced.

Fuel pump in tank was replaced at 60k after it lost power. Wouldn't start shortly after that and the temp sensor was replaced.

Only seems to have had 6 tyres since new and should be around the 80k mark now. 235/45/17 tyres aren't cheap, but aren't the worst.

Not listed on the history, but I'm sure it's had the start/stop button done under warranty as well - seemed to happen on all the Titanium X models.

R.O.R- do think only having the oil done every 20K rather than 10K did any damage to the engine?

Det. McNulty

MuppetCheck wrote: »

Family sold one recently. Had a clutch problem sorted by Ford for free, nothing else went wrong at all. Will do 40 on a cruise but in traffic expect low 20s. Never felt particularly quick, in my opinion it's a lot of motor tax for the power available and the engine felt strained when you were pushing it.

The 2 litre diesel is far superior, but then you pay a lot more for that and it won't suit low mileage too well in the long term I'd imagine.

The tax is a killer but then to get as nice a spec in a diesel with low tax you're looking at 3k more. The govt have forced us to do some sums when we are buying a car these days!

R.O.R

Det. McNulty wrote: »

Would you see any reason to avoid them? Trying to decide between one and a 1.8 diesel, but to get the appropriate diesel is 2-3k more and I wouldn't have massive mileage.

I certainly wouldn't avoid them if you are doing low mileage. Even if something does go wrong, Ford's are fairly cheap to repair - unless it's the clutch and then you are looking at circa €1,200.

If you can find a non FFV that would be easier on fuel, but there probably isn't a huge difference.

Another one to look out for would be the Volvo S80 with the same engine. Pricing on those is only slightly above the Mondeo and you'll usually get a higher spec, and the S80 is a bit larger. Definately lacking in power for the size of the car if you need to get anywhere in a hurry.

TRS30

Det. McNulty wrote: »

The tax is a killer but then to get as nice a spec in a diesel with low tax you're looking at 3k more. The govt have forced us to do some sums when we are buying a car these days!

I was in the same boat and went for the petrol in the end as don't do huge mileage, diesels seem to have more issues (especially if you don't do a 'blow out' run frequently), petrol was at least 3K cheaper which pays for a lot of difference in tax and fuel costs.

Isn't the fastest however am more of a cruiser than a boy racer

R.O.R

TRS30 wrote: »

R.O.R- do think only having the oil done every 20K rather than 10K did any damage to the engine?

Probably not, and it looks like this one may be quite a bit over the 20k from last service anyway.

I'll know soon enough if it's running like a bag of spanners, just waiting on the driver's new A4 to arrive.

TRS30

R.O.R wrote: »

Probably not, and it looks like this one may be quite a bit over the 20k from last service anyway.

I'll know soon enough if it's running like a bag of spanners, just waiting on the driver's new A4 to arrive.

Cheers, would appreciate any feedback if you do find anything.

Gavman84

Friend is buying the car anyway is collecting it Friday thanks for all the help and info lads much appreciated!! Ill have to have a spin off it once he gets it!
Gav

Det. McNulty

The motor check I did on the titanium priced it at 7,250 - 7,950 so I'd say what your mate paid was a fair price and a lot of these other ones are way over-priced. Hope it goes well for him.

TRS30

Mine in an '09 Zetec with 67K km that I got for 9K just before Xmas so that one seems abit over priced.

Det. McNulty

Yeah definitely is, can't be pricing up that much just for the trim.

Gavman84

What do people think would be a good price to get this car for with trade in of my 2003 tdci focus? http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Ford/Mondeo/NT-TITANIUMX/32113504184107940/ My car has 130k on clock. Was thinking 7 and my car?

miller50841

Gavman84 wrote: »

What do people think would be a good price to get this car for with trade in of my 2003 tdci focus? http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Ford/Mondeo/NT-TITANIUMX/32113504184107940/ My car has 130k on clock. Was thinking 7 and my car?

Looks a nice car the cash price is €7950 so you may have to give a small bit extra. All depends on how decent your car is and would recommend giving it a good clean and that before you go up to deal.
Best of luck.