Road To Cannes [Possibly 9th of February]

Voa

This is just a general interest check thread for now, I'll do a full one with all the normal details later if it is to go ahead.

So.
Cannes is coming up, and I don't know about you guys, but I would like a little tournament practice before it rolls around. To that end, I'm planning on running a tournament with only 2 or 3 of the Cannes games hosted (preliminarily. If the MK crowd don't think that another tournament only a month after the last DoC would be putting them out of pocket, I have no qualms running an MK 2/3 (3/5 Grand Finals) tournament). Essentially, I'm cherry picking the World Team Cup games we could compete in, namely; SSF4, UMvC3 and KoF 13.
These tournaments would be used to determine the seeding of people within the WTC, and also who would be considered the "Captain" of the team, though they would then be able to fob off the responsibility if they don't want it. While the prize will mainly be related to Cannes (seeding points ), there will still be a cash prize on offer (based on the number of people for each tournament as usual), so I would encourage everyone to show up on the day. Cost of entry is still up in my mind, I was thinking flat rate per tournament entered, rather than a DoC model. This isn't like DoC, wherein the idea is to get people to play as much as they would like, but rather a focused experience on what they would like to work on.
Now, nothing is finalized at all, it's all in my head. Since I honestly don't know how our KoF scene is (I assume it's just resting, and everyone has some secret tech they've been sitting on ), I am willing to drop KoF in favor of either a team SF or team MvC tournament. The team tournament would be Winner Stays On style, regardless of game.
Also, venue. While I would like to do the tournament in the Exchange (familiarity), I would not be averse to the Clarence, if we could book it/they wouldn't mind us coming back, simply due to the nicer area, and the fact that we get the room for the day, with almost no limit. I'll leave this point up for discussion amongst those with strong opinions.

So.
Opinions?

Yreval

Would love to come on down and play some competitive KOF again, but I'm busy that weekend. Hope this goes well.

Doctor DooM

I'm just gonna focus on SF4 this year so if there's KoF on the day I will gladly play it, but I have no "need" for it to be there. I've never gone beyond the level I was prepared for at Cannes last year so if anyone is still playing it they'll body me free, let alone the French.

UberPrinny_Baal

I'd attend.

AE/UMvC3/MK seems like a fine line up.

KOF seems unnecessary for your intended purpose, (i.e. The three best KOF players will be whatever three people still play that game, if there are even three)

Doyler01

Im Captain of team Ireland marvel



This sounds great. I'l defo be there for AE and marvel.

chopperbyrne

Leave KoF out. Only about three people play it anyway.

Fergus_

SFxT (2013 patch will be out by then) or TTT2 would be a better choice over KoF imo and takes less time to run.

Doctor DooM

To my knowledge no TTT players are going, SFxT might be a better idea, especially seeing as the patch will be available.

Nutrient

Doyler01 wrote: »

Im Captain of team Ireland marvel

It's clearly Lee :pac:

Nutrient

I think Marvel teams would be a sick idea, if there ia time ofc

More marvel is always best. can see how teams work out too

deathrider

Is there a Kombat team planning on hitting this? If so, can we spell "captain" with a K?

MelficeVKM

Would love to play kof at this but no-one really plays it it seems, I'd say do a different game. +1 to SFXT

Bento Sento

As far as I know no TTT2 players are going to Cannes so you could say that it shouldn't be run however we are really trying to grow the Tekken scene at the moment and more tournaments can only help. Other than a few minor bumps TTT2 went down well at DoC, we had a good turnout even though not all of the regular players managed to show up.

If we get the Clarence then time shouldn't be that much of an issue. So I propose AE/UMvC3/MK9/TTT2.
We want to get to a point where Tekken is a regular at tournaments and I don't want to have to be the when's Tekken guy. I am going to try my best to attend this whether TTT2 is on or not but it will just be a bit of a disappointment if my favourite game and frankly the only one I am anyway good at isn't there.

At the end of the day it is your tournament so you can run it however you please but I am going to ask nicely to give us a chance.
Please don't make me beg.

Naphiel

No point running KoF. No one has been playing it so it'll just take forever as everyone who enters will be out of practice.

AE, UMvC3, MK and TTT2 makes the most sense to me.

1man3letters

Voa wrote: »

(preliminarily. If the MK crowd don't think that another tournament only a month after the last DoC would be putting them out of pocket, I have no qualms running an MK 2/3 (3/5 Grand Finals) tournament).

ill send a few messages round to the people not on boards but i dont see why it couldnt be done,personally im more than up for it.
razer,dr and slick prob in the worst positions travel wise.

a few lads missed the last one and if the 3 new members of the mk kommunity sean,jason and wilson who attented the last event come along (which i hope they do ) then we should well have enough to fill a bracket.

hopefully 2 dublin players which ive been wrecking there heads for months to come out will finally do it this time also lol,at least one bothering to come to casuals now.
"should" have a new player coming up from wexford aswell, the last front page TYM thing on our last event let him know there was irish tournies happening so he seems very interested in traveling down

Bento Sento

1man3letters wrote: »

a few lads missed the last one and if the 3 new members of the mk kommunity sean,jason and wilson who attented the last event come along (which i hope they do ) then we should well have enough to fill a bracket.

As I said to you the other day in casuals I should be able to get Wilson and another bloke down for MK. So there is two more for you.

1man3letters

Bento Sento wrote: »

As I said to you the other day in casuals I should be able to get Wilson and another bloke down for MK. So there is two more for you.

lol yea i was trying to remember what your boards name was.
yea thats awesome man! the more the better

ladnopoka

put sfxt instead of kof plsthanksluvyoubye

Voa

So...how many people are actually playing SFxT in Cannes?

Nutrient

Voa wrote: »

So...how many people are actually playing SFxT in Cannes?

Whats SFXT

Voa

Oops double post.

Voa

Quick update for those interested. Currently looking like the following:
The tournaments will be SF, MvC, MK and MvC teams (2v2, no same duplicate across teams).
If we run this in the Clarence, we paid 150 out of the prize pot to get the room, BUT we get it for a lot longer. Which means if people want to do sandwich/money matches, yay. Exchange is still a possibility, and that would only be 50 quid of the pot, but we'd have a lot less time.
Price up front will be a fiver per tourney, flat. Discounts will still be available; each console or monitor you bring gets you 1 free entry to 1 tournament.
The prizes are will probably be the following; First and Second place pay offs, with seeding points to the top 5 who are going to Cannes from each tournament. I'm told the seeding points should help divvy people up in pools once we get to Cannes, but I'll need to contact Tengu over this.

If there are any major objections or points to pull on this, speak your piece.

UberPrinny_Baal

I'd be happier to sacrifice the pot to get more time.

I vote the Clarence.

Nutrient

Voa wrote: »

If there are any major objections or points to pull on this, speak your piece.

When Marvel?

Bento Sento

The Clarence would probably be the best choice of venue it was good at the most recent DoC because of there being no time constraints.

I am going to say this again and as many times as I feel necessary. Please run Tekken. We have quite a good number of players now our scene is getting bigger. Give us a chance to have our game at the tournament. Please and thank you.

Owwmykneecap

Not every tourney needs every game

If its about cannes focus on that and help our best players level up their game before their biggest tourney of the year.

Doyler01

Bento Sento wrote: »

I am going to say this again and as many times as I feel necessary. Please run Tekken. We have quite a good number of players now our scene is getting bigger. Give us a chance to have our game at the tournament. Please and thank you.

Are tekken lads going to Cannes?
He's running this tournament / day of casuals to help prepare those of us going. Great idea IMO. So it shouldn't just be another doc.. Emphasis should not be on trying to get thru tournament after tournament but rather a chance for casuals and long sets to improve your game with people you don't regularly get to play.
Adding more games just takes away from the point of this event.




Also, is this tournament to be recorded by doom? I was gonna suggest that he could take this one off so he could actually get some games in with everyone. I don't think too many of us would mind.
Just a suggestion! Dooms call obviously!!

Bento Sento

Owwmykneecap wrote: »

Not every tourney needs every game

If its about cannes focus on that and help our best players level up their game before their biggest tourney of the year.

I understand that I just don't want Tekken to die and tourneys are the best way to keep it alive and active. The more TTT2 the better.

Doyler01 wrote: »

Are tekken lads going to Cannes?
He's running this tournament / day of casuals to help prepare those of us going. Great idea IMO. So it shouldn't just be another doc.. Emphasis should not be on trying to get thru tournament after tournament but rather a chance for casuals and long sets to improve your game with people you don't regularly get to play.
Adding more games just takes away from the point of this event.

Fergus might be going. Granted this is a warm up for Cannes tournament but a missed tournament for a game is a missed opportunity for us to learn more about the game and about what we can do to improve our scene.

I know it is very annoying with me constantly pestering you guys about having my game on but if I don't the game could just get continually looked over and that eventually leads to a games death tournament wise.

Kuro Tao

I'm actually going to go ahead and say it, Tekken will be unnecessary at this tournament for reasons already stated. Nobody who plays Tekken going to Cannes etc. Besides that, if we set up Ranbats then there'll be too much Tekken tbh, which is another reason I put forward the idea since I foresaw Tekken not being played in a tourney environment for at least 2 months or so.
Just putting in my two cents. I'll be in for MK if it's played anyway.

Fergus_

I'd like TTT2 to be at this but I can totally understand the current lineup for helping the Cannes players to level up.

Nutrient

More Marvel the better

signed, Everyone

Lythero

I've recently changed my button config so that I can deal with throws better. So I've no excuse not to attend this. Need to make sure I don't accidentally pop x-factor out of instinct while under pressure.

Doctor DooM

Doyler01 wrote: »

Also, is this tournament to be recorded by doom? I was gonna suggest that he could take this one off so he could actually get some games in with everyone. I don't think too many of us would mind.
Just a suggestion! Dooms call obviously!!

Maybe we could get the best of both worlds and I could set up the stuff and someone not playing tournaments in Cannes could handle the recording- Aileen or Sinead could, or whoever. Once it's up and running, it's not too hard to keep going.

I'd really enjoy a tournament where I'm not stuck behind a desk though

Doyler01

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Maybe we could get the best of both worlds and I could set up the stuff and someone not playing tournaments in Cannes could handle the recording- Aileen or Sinead could, or whoever. Once it's up and running, it's not too hard to keep going.

I'd really enjoy a tournament where I'm not stuck behind a desk though

Sounds like a plan if you can find someone willing.
If you can't I'd personally rather that you take this one off and get games in if that's what you want to do. I hope there will still be a bunch setups running most of the day for casuals.

Nutrient

Doyler01 wrote: »

Sounds like a plan if you can find someone willing.
If you can't I'd personally rather that you take this one off and get games in if that's what you want to do. I hope there will still be a bunch setups running most of the day for casuals.

Didn't you try to run SF or mvc3 Eirtakon 2011

Also I was thinking, would it not be feasible to keep recording the entirety of a tournament?

Then that way commentators just need to be kept sat on station and nothing is missed?

I understand that its a gross waste of HDD space etc but it would seem more secured other then having someone always present hitting the recording button on/off constantly, only switch off when different games have to be done similar to Spookys setup although, his setup IS designed for live-stream in mind:/

The drawbacks I can see would be editing also

Thats my 2cents anyway, I'm more then happy then lend a hand anyway I can, I have Recording equipment so I know the in and outs of Xspilt, Sound tutorial and I could do everything needed.

UberPrinny_Baal

Doom, I agree with Doyler and Nutrient.

Looking at the hotel room doc, I would say you're currently the best SF player going.

So as well as it generally being good for you to get a day off, you also should get some practice in.

I'd actually be really interested to see a full tournament footage file uploaded to your channel (or if not full, go for whatever you feel the maximum safe chunks of time are). But as you said yourself it's not hard for others to start/stop the recordings as long as you've done the setup at the beginning.

We should also use this day to decide international teams (via round robin casuals throughout the day?) if we're invited to the 5v5s again this year for both Marvel and AE.

Unless a few more people end up going, both teams might be in a situation where they need to pad out their team to 5 people with the least bad choice out of some not-great players.

Doctor DooM

Nutrient wrote: »

Didn't you try to run SF or mvc3 Eirtakon 2011

Also I was thinking, would it not be feasible to keep recording the entirety of a tournament?

Then that way commentators just need to be kept sat on station and nothing is missed?

I understand that its a gross waste of HDD space etc but it would seem more secured other then having someone always present hitting the recording button on/off constantly, only switch off when different games have to be done similar to Spookys setup although, his setup IS designed for live-stream in mind:/

The drawbacks I can see would be editing also

Thats my 2cents anyway, I'm more then happy then lend a hand anyway I can, I have Recording equipment so I know the in and outs of Xspilt, Sound tutorial and I could do everything needed.

You need your practice too, although I appreciate the offer but yeah you'd be a prime candidate for keeping an eye when I'm busy in general.

Just as a matter of interest- I have three reasons I hack up the vids into multiple fights:
1) It's better for youtube, gets more hits and means people will watch more
2) If there's a corruption in recording it won't ruin the whole thing
3) It'd require a level of commitment which is basically unfair to ask of people that they sit on the mike for shifts, as opposed to just the odd fight here and there. I don't want it to become a chore some people HAVE to do.

Basically though, it just comes down to my personal choice not to.

Nutrient

1) It's better for youtube, gets more hits and means people will watch more
100% on that

2) If there's a corruption in recording it won't ruin the whole thing
Again, Perfect sense, especially after the setup BSOD near the end last time:/

3) It'd require a level of commitment which is basically unfair to ask of people that they sit on the mike for shifts, as opposed to just the odd fight here and there. I don't want it to become a chore some people HAVE to do.

Same can be said for you, It's grossly unfair to expect you to do everything when its YOUR tournament to participate in as well, people need give a lending hand voluntarily and not be hounded about it, takes 2secs to look over and see that you've been going about 2hours straight without casuals, let alone a break.

It takes 5-10mins minutes to help out isn't gonna kill anyone:pac:

I know that there is others that help out and I'm not taking stabs at anyone in particular at all, I want to see everyone get a fair chance when the tourney games roll around.

Of course, it's your call:D

Doyler01

UberPrinny_Baal wrote: »

We should also use this day to decide international teams (via round robin casuals throughout the day?) if we're invited to the 5v5s again this year for both Marvel and AE.

Might be a good idea for 1 or 2 spots on the teams, but maybe at a later date in case we get any late additions.


I don't think its necessary right now tho as I think we only have 5 AE players going am I right? Me Doom AJ Dave and Dark Talant?? And as for Marvel, myself Nutrient Dark Talant and Lee I'm guessing everyone is ok with those 4 on the team, then have the last spot up for grabs.. I don't mind earning my spot in either game in a round robin.

Maybe even letting the top 1 or 2 players in each game choose a team based on match ups and experience with each candidate.

Any thoughts? I'm just spit ballin here..

Goody2shoes15

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Maybe we could get the best of both worlds and I could set up the stuff and someone not playing tournaments in Cannes could handle the recording- Aileen or Sinead could, or whoever. Once it's up and running, it's not too hard to keep going.

I'd really enjoy a tournament where I'm not stuck behind a desk though

At the moment as far as I know I will have work that evening but i can be there from first thing till six. Voa's girlfriend Siobhan is more than capable of handling the sign-up desk herself so he defo doesn't need me for that and, as I've said to Doom before, I actually quite enjoy doing the recording desk once its been set up and all, so if he's content to let me i'll run the setup for the day. After six i'm sure someone can take over if the tourney runs longer than that.

1man3letters

so is the 9th the set date for this or is it still up in the air?

Voa

I will be popping into the Clarence tomorrow to check if the 9th is free to book.

Doctor DooM

Let us know, so I can get thinking

Voa

I'll know by tomorrow.

Voa

Alright, they got back to me. It seems the function room is booked out for a directors meeting on the 9th. He'll get back to me on the situation, but it looks like we might be over in the Exchange.

Nutrient

Voa wrote: »

Alright, they got back to me. It seems the function room is booked out for a directors meeting on the 9th. He'll get back to me on the situation, but it looks like we might be over in the Exchange.

Exchange woo!

I missed my Unclothed posteriors! :pac:

Doesn't matter where we have the tourney, Exchange should be fine

Lythero

I think I'm probably the only person who'd prefer the exchange...

Voa

Can't get the Clarence. I'ma check the Exchange bookings and see if we can get the 9th there.

*Edit: Scratch that, might have to move the date to the 16th, it looks like there's a couple things on in the Exchange that day. We most likely have to go super early and end super early as well. I'm gonna email the Clarence back on that.

Doctor DooM

Voa wrote: »

Can't get the Clarence. I'ma check the Exchange bookings and see if we can get the 9th there.

*Edit: Scratch that, might have to move the date to the 16th, it looks like there's a couple things on in the Exchange that day. We most likely have to go super early and end super early as well. I'm gonna email the Clarence back on that.

Just FYI, I can't attend at all that day.

Voa

Hm.
Alright, I've sent an email to the Exchange for the 9th. If we can get it though, we'll be running from SUPER early, like 10am start on SF or UMvC, no excuses.

Doctor DooM

Could maybe try other hotels in the area too..?

I usually wouldn't make a thing of it, but I would like a crack at the seed points. Would be sucky if I couldn't, seeing as the whole point of this is for people going to Cannes...