Recommend upper middle class area with lots of young families in Dublin?

melusina

Could you recommend the area in Dublin where upper middle class people live and at the same time, the area is 'young' e.g. many young families, lots of amenities for kids ? Preferably with a good connection to the city centre.
If there is any other positives to mention about the particular area recommended, please do mention it. Thanks.

mfceiling

Ranelagh

MaxSteele

Cherry Orchard, Ballyfermot. You'll love it.

The Hill Billy

MaxSteele wrote: »

Cherry Orchard, Ballyfermot. You'll love it.

If you have nothing helpful to add to the thread - don't bother posting.

tHB

liffeylite

melusina wrote: »

Could you recommend the area in Dublin where upper middle class people live and at the same time, the area is 'young' e.g. many young families, lots of amenities for kids ? Preferably with a good connection to the city centre.
If there is any other positives to mention about the particular area recommended, please do mention it. Thanks.

Ranelagh, donnybrook, ballsbridge, sandymount, rathgar, terenure, merrion, blackrock, monkstown, sandycove, Rathfarnham, cabinteely, clontarf, glasnevin, killester, castleknock, portmarnock, malahde, sutton howth. Check out any of them on daft.ie plenty of others too.

delthedriver

Ranelagh, Rathgar, Terenure.

Each locationhas access to Private Schools, The High School, Sandford Park, Alexandra College. etc.

All of the above have easy access to City Centre, Driving , Walking, Cycling or Public Transport. Ranelagh also has Luas.

Each of the above have shops, banks, bistros, bars,doctors dentists etc. Good community atmosphere.

Hope the above may assist

admiralofthefleet

clontarf, raheny and killester, the general area immediately north east of the city centre and howth/sutton. all are very nice areas, very close to town, have excellent amenities and transport links

donvito99

Rothgore

admiralofthefleet

donvito99 wrote: »

Rothgore

there isnt really much in rathgar. its close enough to town yeah but amenities wise it lacks

admiralofthefleet

mfceiling wrote: »

Ranelagh

around mount pleasant square and the hill isnt exactly upmarket

ciaran_h

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

around mount pleasant square and the hill isnt exactly upmarket

Jasus so ranelagh is rough now yeah? By the same token st. Annes in or conquer hill in clontarf should get a mention.

delthedriver

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

clontarf, raheny and killester, the general area immediately north east of the city centre and howth/sutton. all are very nice areas, very close to town, have excellent amenities and transport links

With respect I would not consider Killester and Raheny to be Upper Middle Class.
Where are the Private Schools. Sorry I am a Southsider:)

delthedriver

liffeylite wrote: »

Ranelagh, donnybrook, ballsbridge, sandymount, rathgar, terenure, merrion, blackrock, monkstown, sandycove, Rathfarnham, cabinteely, clontarf, glasnevin, killester, castleknock, portmarnock, malahde, sutton howth. Check out any of them on daft.ie plenty of others too.

I would not consider all of the above to be Upper Middle Class.:)

schemingbohemia

What is upper-middle class to you, OP? Everyone might have a different view on what that is.

If you want to get really detailed you could check out the Pobal Deprivation Index that includes education indicators etc but not income, see here
http://maps.pobal.ie/#/Map

Virtually every part of Dublin that would be regarded as upper-middle class would have areas within it or beside it that are not, we're not as ghetto-ised here as in other cities.

Many more affluent areas because of the housing boom madness were not affordable for young families so there won't be many there. Added to the list above, i'd include Dalkey, Glasthule, Glenageary, really most of the DART stations south of Grand Canal Dock as far as Killiney.

P_1

Depends on what you would consider as upper middle class tbh.

A quick rule of thumb (with a few exceptions) would be to follow the Dart Line and the N11, N81, R114, R117 roads.

You should find upper middle class areas along these corridors

bullvine

Pretty much anywhere in Dun Laoghaire/Rathdown with the exception of Sallynoggin, Ballybrack and Loughlinstown, might be a little far from the city though.

juiceking91

Clonee :rolleyes: LOL

delthedriver

melusina wrote: »

Could you recommend the area in Dublin where upper middle class people live and at the same time, the area is 'young' e.g. many young families, lots of amenities for kids ? Preferably with a good connection to the city centre.
If there is any other positives to mention about the particular area recommended, please do mention it. Thanks.

Which areas have you considered so far?
There have been quite a few suggestions And replies .Anywhere in particular of interest to you?
Where are you living at the moment?

admiralofthefleet

delthedriver wrote: »

With respect I would not consider Killester and Raheny to be Upper Middle Class.
Where are the Private Schools. Sorry I am a Southsider:)

mount temple is in killester but since when does a private school make an area upper class? is there any private schools in dolphins barn? or tallaght/clondalkin/ballybrack?

ciaran_h

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

mount temple is in killester but since when does a private school make an area upper class? is there any private schools in dolphins barn? or tallaght/clondalkin/ballybrack?

Mt temple is not private. And no priv schools in any of the areas u mention but who's saying they're upper middle class?...not sure what ur argument is other than listing off some 'rough' southside areas......what the hell does upper middle class mean anyway OP? A place full of complete w@nkers IMO which doesn't fit the bill for killester or raheny....therefore I'd say go for rathgar, ranelagh, terenure or anywhere south of grand canal dock

tallyv

I would say Raheny, clontarf or sutton or on the southside Sandymount, blackrock or stillorgan.

admiralofthefleet

ciaran_h wrote: »

Mt temple is not private. And no priv schools in any of the areas u mention but who's saying they're upper middle class?...not sure what ur argument is other than listing off some 'rough' southside areas......what the hell does upper middle class mean anyway OP? A place full of complete w@nkers IMO which doesn't fit the bill for killester or raheny....therefore I'd say go for rathgar, ranelagh, terenure or anywhere south of grand canal dock

whats the point on argueing? there is rough areas all over dublin. South and North, East and West

donvito99

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

there isnt really much in rathgar. its close enough to town yeah but amenities wise it lacks

Bus frequency is usually stellar by Dublin standards. 10 minute walk from Rathmines which is awash with amenities.

Actually, OP should live in Rathmines.

WoollyRedHat

tallyv wrote: »

I would say Raheny, clontarf or sutton or on the southside Sandymount, blackrock or stillorgan.

Raheny, really? I wouldn't have considered that as fitting in as per the title. This from what I remember from my childhood unless it has changed since the late 90s.

delthedriver

Hi Folks,
Before any mor time is wasted, or before posters fall out with each other, may I suggest we get feedback from the Op on what has been posted so far. It seems a bit unfair to comment further on different areas without hearing from Op!

hfallada

Glasnevin is pretty nice and very safe if you stay in the Dublin 9 part. It has excellent transport links as I never wait more than 5-10 mins for a bus. However if you live in Glasnevin there is a 95% chance you send your son/daughter to belvedere or loreto on the green and it might be better in the long run to live in an area where there is quality public schools.

But other than that there is a strong sense of community with most major housing developments having an annual community BBQ

delthedriver

melusina wrote: »

Could you recommend the area in Dublin where upper middle class people live and at the same time, the area is 'young' e.g. many young families, lots of amenities for kids ? Preferably with a good connection to the city centre.
If there is any other positives to mention about the particular area recommended, please do mention it. Thanks.

Well Op, how are we doing so far?

Have the replies been helpful?

Upper Middle Class??? Mmmmmmmmmmm?

Hootanany

CAhBRA on the West side.

gerbilgranny

I'm a little taken aback that someone could be so....blatant....as to request 'upper middle class'.

(And sorry, but I would like to thank the people whose posts have made me laugh!)

But being serious - I've got the impression that, in the UK at least 'upper middle class' actually means very posh indeed. Dublin 4-type posh. Not sure that many of the areas mentioned would cut it.

It'd certainly be interesting to hear more from the OP.

delthedriver

gerbilgranny wrote: »

I'm a little taken aback that someone could be so....blatant....as to request 'upper middle class'.

(And sorry, but I would like to thank the people whose posts have made me laugh!)

But being serious - I've got the impression that, in the UK at least 'upper middle class' actually means very posh indeed. Dublin 4-type posh. Not sure that many of the areas mentioned would cut it.

It'd certainly be interesting to hear more from the OP.

Interesting, there are parts of D4 I would not consider posh. This may be an exercise in futility as the Op has not responded so far. I am not sure the Op is genuine nor Upper Middle Class.

In the current economic climate I am not even sure what is Upper Middle Class.
The construction of the Ops request does not suggest that they are indeed Upper Middle Class.

Perhaps the Op could enlighten us or stop wasting our time. Perhaps the thread should be closed off in the absence of a reply

Giblet

Maybe you can move in next to enya?

melusina

Thank you for all the posts and suggestions. I am living in Killester at the moment. It is very convenient in reg. to transport and close to the airport, St Annes Park, close to Malahide, Howth, Portmarnock for weekend trips. I do like it here. However, now with the kids, we are getting more involved into the life of the community & I sometimes feel like we don't completely fit in. I am not sure whether 'upper middle class' was completely correct I just guessed I would rate myself there? Definitely didn't mean posh.
I wouldn't mind staying on the North side, but never lived in the South side so don't know what I'm missing:-)
It's hard to find a house one would like anyway, so all areas suggested will get my attention:-) Thanks.
I have also a question how about Malahide?
And is there any bigger greens/parks around the areas in the South along the Dart line?
Isn't it hard to get a child into school in the South (I mean if not enrolled straight after birth?)

Arciphel

In what way do you fell that you don't fit in exactly, do you feel you are of a higher or lower social standing compared to your neighbours?

melusina

A bit higher I believe.

tempura

Are you from Dublin originally op ?

Am not overly fond of your question to be honest but don't wish to railroad your thread.

I have lived in Dublin most of my life, I live in Dublin 8 which is considered to have both rough and good areas, my children go to a private school. I shop in Tesco and on occasion treat myself to M&S ! Your request for an area that suits your need really requires far more information.

I honestly think your thread is a bit trollish, and you are looking for a class war !

Arciphel

melusina wrote: »

A bit higher I believe.

You might get flack for this from some on here, but I respect your honesty.

I don't really know the area so can't comment specifically.

What I would say is that you can live in a great neighborhood and find yourself living next to people who are extremely posh but a complete pain in the behind too. Likewise, your children can get bullied in a private, fee paying school just as easily as in the local public school, maybe even more so. Is it really worth stressing yourself, probably financially as well as emotionally, when there are probably other things you could do while still living in the same area, to alleviate your fears somewhat? Maybe the things that you have gotten involved with in the community so far just haven't allowed you to make friends with people who you think would have more in common with you?

melusina

Well, I wouldn't like to make any class war here...just to get recommendations for the areas...
I don't have anything against any sort of people, and would shop anywhere, even Lidl:-)
Just didn't know how in other simple way to describe what areas I would like to have recommended?
Arciphel is right and I know that there are good and bad people in any 'class'. Anyway, I don't like that word very much. Didn't want to offend anyone here by all means...

admiralofthefleet

malahide is well known and has been voted the most upper class area in dublin a few times

Ed Winchester

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

malahide is well known and has been voted the most upper class area in dublin

Really? Have you a link for that?

admiralofthefleet

Ed Winchester wrote: »

Really? Have you a link for that?

do i really need to post one, anyone with a brain knows Malahide is upper class. it was in the pheonix magazine

edit: this is from wiki: Malahide has a higher percentage of professionals living in it than any other town in Ireland, according to figures released by the Central Statistics Office.Malahide came top of the socio-economic charts with the highest proportion of residents classified as employers, managers and higher professionals.

TheRealPONeil

A visitor can access data from Pobal
Also the Irish Times published the Deprivation Indexx a couple of weeks ago which mapped data down to virtually street level from the data above. You can view the data in forensic detail here.

Ed Winchester

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

do i really need to post one, anyone with a brain knows Malahide is upper class. it was in the pheonix magazine

edit: this is from wiki: Malahide has a higher percentage of professionals living in it than any other town in Ireland, according to figures released by the Central Statistics Office.Malahide came top of the socio-economic charts with the highest proportion of residents classified as employers, managers and higher professionals.

I don't doubt it is upper class. I was looking for a link to the vote.

tomdublin

There are no real public amenities in any part of this city and even fewer in posh areas where things like gyms and swimming pools are all private. Why does it have to be an "upper middle class" area anyway are you worried that the lower middle classes could contaminate your children?

TheRealPONeil

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

do i really need to post one, anyone with a brain knows Malahide is upper class. it was in the pheonix magazine

Just pick a blue area

brokenarms

tempura wrote: »

Are you from Dublin originally op ?

Am not overly fond of your question to be honest but don't wish to railroad your thread.

I have lived in Dublin most of my life, I live in Dublin 8 which is considered to have both rough and good areas, my children go to a private school. I shop in Tesco and on occasion treat myself to M&S ! Your request for an area that suits your need really requires far more information.

I honestly think your thread is a bit trollish, and you are looking for a class war !

I would say the **** is really going to hit the fan when all the peasants come home from the pub and read this.

irishguy

Well it really depends on what you want to spend on a house. As you are going to get a lot more anywhere on the north side than you would in the D6/4 area. Also a lot of the areas mentioned are very nice but I am not sure if there are a huge amount of young family's in them ESP ballsbridge,rathgar or donnybrook.

Arciphel

TheRealPONeil wrote: »

A visitor can access data from Pobal
Also the Irish Times published the Deprivation Indexx a couple of weeks ago which mapped data down to virtually street level from the data above. You can view the data in forensic detail here.

That is brilliant, thanks for posting.

Miss Lockhart

TheRealPONeil wrote: »

A visitor can access data from Pobal
Also the Irish Times published the Deprivation Indexx a couple of weeks ago which mapped data down to virtually street level from the data above. You can view the data in forensic detail here.

I don't have anything to add to this thread, but I want to thank you for sharing the links. What a fascinating set of data. Didn't realise just how disadvantaged I am. :eek:

WoollyRedHat

Sandycove and Sandymount are lovely.

frankosw

I smell a troll in the OP.

RayCon

TheRealPONeil wrote: »

Also the Irish Times published the Deprivation Indexx a couple of weeks ago which mapped data down to virtually street level from the data above. You can view the data in forensic detail here.

Woo hoo .... Marginally Above Average