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Would you take the law into your own hands if the legal system failed you??

  • 11-01-2013 5:49pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭


    If the law failed you in a regard. And the person who wronged you remained unpunished through our legal system, for something quite serious, a rape for example. Would you take it upon yourself to take the law into your own hands to see the perpetrator punished, knowing full well what the repercussions could be?

    I'm not a violent person, quite the opposite. I really don't have any sort of temper. But theoretically I imagine if my girlfriend had been raped and there was no justice through our legal system, I think I'd almost feel obliged to take matters into my own hands.

    My conscious would be telling me that this is the wrong approach to the situation, but I don't think I could feel relief myself on a very selfish level perhaps unless I did.

    How about you?




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    yup


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭chughes


    Thread could do with a poll.

    Put me down for a yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    I don't think anyone can truly answer that until the comes, and we all deep down would prefer never to be in that position.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Without a doubt,if anyone broke into my house id mutilate them,if they done anything to my family id leave them incapable of living in any comfort rather than give them the privilage of death.

    I'm nice,but don't fook with my family or my property.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Fromthetrees


    In theory yeas.

    In reality it hasn't happened so I don't know.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    I'd contact Mick Wallace. He knows people who know people.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Agricola wrote: »
    I'd contact Mick Wallace. He knows people who know people.
    meh,the pink shirt gang are a bunch of pansys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭spoonface


    As the old proverb says, he who is intent on revenge must first dig 2 graves...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    I would handcuff them then tell them to watch their head, oooooooooo look it explodes just like a melon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    I would.

    I have been wronged by a few people that thought they were above the law before but for the sake of a better word, I got my "revenge".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭SmilingLurker


    If anyone hurt my little girl, yes. I am non violent, but if someone hurts/abuses/kills a child solitary for life meaning until death should be the minimum punishment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    No. I'm no anarchist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭Difference Engine


    Definitely would. Knowing myself there is no way I would be able to let that go.

    Something that serious would have me planning ways to make someone disappear. Well planned, obviously no point in going off in a rage and then getting caught.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭Marsden


    I'd rape them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    I would.

    I have been wronged by a few people that thought they were above the law before but for the sake of a better word, I got my "revenge".

    I want to know the better word, I am dyslexic, (I now know how to spell this word from the other thread).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭clairefontaine


    No. At least I don't think so.

    I have already been in a situation where the legal system failed me, for something very serious, and I did not take it into my own hands, nor would I. I had always thought previous to the actual thing happening that I would, but in the heel of the hunt I didn't and it was the wiser but imperfect decision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    Honestly, yes.

    Otherwise I'd just think they're laughing away to themselves that they got away with it.

    Rape or murder of a family member = no brainer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    There's a legal system? We just shoot em round here. How does a man access this "legal system" you speak of? And does it involve shooting them legally?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭clairefontaine


    If anyone hurt my little girl, yes. I am non violent, but if someone hurts/abuses/kills a child solitary for life meaning until death should be the minimum punishment.

    While noble, the problem with this is that the person who harmed your child was already found non guilty, so s/he can't be tried again, that means they walk free.

    Meanwhile, you have committed a crime, you are already set up because you have motive, and lo and behold you are the one who is in prison and you are no longer able to protect your little girl because you are behind bars, and that monster is walking free, even MORE able than before to do more harm because you are the one on prison, or death row if you are in the US.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    Yes...or to quote Anthrax: 'I am the law' :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭Marsden


    Lars1916 wrote: »
    Yes...or to quote Anthrax: 'I am the law' :D

    Was that not Judge Dredd?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    It would depend on the consequences.

    If I did, I'd probably go after him, but not violently. I'm a pacificst and don;t think violence solves anything.

    Plus, you can **** up someone's life a lot better psychologically. :D

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 Bedshaped


    No, I would not.

    We put the system in place and if the system fails you, change the system.

    No single person has the right to take justice into their own hands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭StinkyMunkey


    Someone could put me in hospital and I'd get over it.

    You harm my wife or childern, ill cut your throat (not that I'd enjoy the hard time that would come with it). I'd die a little each day if anyone hurt my family and was walking around Free as a bird.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭StinkyMunkey


    Marsden wrote: »
    Was that not Judge Dredd?

    Anthrax got that from Judge Dredd, the song is based on him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    I'd do what those Americans in Steubenville did and plaster the incriminating evidence all over the internet. The hive delivers far more efficient justice than our suspended sentence addicts in the judiciary these days...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭Peetrik


    Yep, no question.

    I also skip red lights on my bike when there is no one around. Mad max would be proud.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    I want to know the better word, I am dyslexic, (I now know how to spell this word from the other thread).

    I dunno....

    comeuppance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭Luca Brasi


    Yes. I would get my revenge but would be very careful about it so that I would't end up in trouble. I would let the hare sit for a good while and then start a campaign of harassment towards him/her. Anonymous threats to his home/workplace. Contacting the undertaker to call to his house in connection with a death. Everything and anything which would drive him mad. Discrete observation of his movements and when the right opportunity comes BANG, ACROSS THE KNEECAPS WITH A HURLEY. Stick a "paedo out" poster on his house and let the Evening Herald loose on him


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    No, cause then the law will take care of you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    Yes, if they harmed my cat.. ;):)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭OU812


    Yes I would, but at the exact moment they were having their genitals hacked off with a Stanley knife, I'd be in a Garda station having photos stamped for a passport renewal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Tubbs4


    the is to lock them up for 6 years. So i would keep them in my house and only allow them 1 hour outside time while feeding them.
    Oh wait no the law here has no death sentence. So you could do nothing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    I would want too, it's natural to want revenge if someone you love is hurt but would not do it myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 778 ✭✭✭jessiejam


    No I don't think I could if it was something that was done to me. I would want to and would play out every sort of revenge in my head but when push came to shove I know i would back out. Simply because of the guilt or consequences.

    For my children however probably a different matter. Knowing me, I would react in haste and kill the perpetrator. And deal with the consequences at a later date.

    I hope to never be in that position though.

    I feel really angry now having run those horrible thoughts through my head:mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    I dunno....

    comeuppance?

    I think I love this word.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    I wouldn't but my dog might ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    gurramok wrote: »
    Yes, if they harmed my cat.. ;):)

    :eek: - you just dont give up the cat krazy do you ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭cassid


    Calm me now, I will put my faith in the justice system and allow due process to convict the wrong doer.

    But if anybody raped/abused my children, I think I would want blood, just the thoughts of anything like that happening to my children, I think I would abandon all my current beliefs and be haunted seeking revenge. I have often seen people talking about forgiving wrong doers who have killed/ raped their children. I think that takes an extraordinary person to do this. I understand the logic on it now, that the crime can't be undone and bitterness/desire for revenge would only further exacerbate my pain and will only damage my quality of life.

    If something happened to my hubbie or other members of my extended family, I don't think I would be as intent on revenge at any cost. Maybe its because my children are still very young and need protecting or I just love them more, I don’t know really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    I wouldn't talk about it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭burgermasters


    Without a shadow of a doubt


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,971 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    How did this thread get 43 replies without someone making a "Taken" reference?

    After Hours, I am disappoint!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    How did this thread get 43 replies without someone making a "Taken" reference?

    Because you're the only idiot who actually watched it...?:D

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,971 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Because you're the only idiot who actually watched it...?:D

    No, no, that was the sequel! Liam Neeson's monologue in the first film belongs in this thread, dammit!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    It did fail me and I did to answer your question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Of course I would, it's how TV raised me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    The law fails us all the time.

    Closing hours in Off Licence/pubs.
    Making criminals out of peaceful people for their choice of drug.
    Going easy on white collar criminals.
    Limited liability for people who expect a return on their investment regardless of how evil the corporation is.


    etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    spoonface wrote: »
    As the old proverb says, he who is intent on revenge must first dig 2 graves...

    Zombies?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭Difference Engine



    Zombies?

    In case there was any witnesses?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,035 ✭✭✭goz83


    In case there was any witnesses?

    That's what fire and wood chippers are for.

    Besides, if the Spanish can get horses into our burgers, surely we can get humans into theirs :)


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