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Do you have health insurance?

  • 08-01-2013 9:02pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭


    Hi All,

    Like the thread says do you have health insurance?!

    i don't but am slightly apprehensive that i actually should have. Don't get me wrong, I'm in good health (early 30s) and all that but most of my peers have insurance and i get quizzical looks when i tell them i don't.

    Am i crazy not having it? What are the pro's and con's?

    Many thanks in advance for your replies.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭barney 20v


    Hi All,

    Like the thread says do you have health insurance?!

    i don't but am slightly apprehensive that i actually should have. Don't get me wrong, I'm in good health (early 30s) and all that but most of my peers have insurance and i get quizzical looks when i tell them i don't.

    Am i crazy not having it? What are the pro's and con's?

    Many thanks in advance for your replies.
    Yep, but to be fair my employers cover the full cost for me and my family. Early 30s also op and its defo worth having.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,873 ✭✭✭Skid


    If the Health Insurance prices increase much more (which they will) the only people who will retain it are the very wealthy and the very sick (and anyone whose employer pays for them).

    The Private Health Industry will collapse in the next few years - the cost keeps going up while the benefits keep going down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    Yup, have had it all my life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,195 ✭✭✭Corruptedmorals


    Early 20's. I wouldn't be without it, it's already paid out a load of times for me. You won't get much more of a pros and cons list than cons: It's expensive and you might not ever utilise it. Pros: It's always there if you need it, will get you to a consultant and tests done within a week, as opposed to a year plus in the public system for simple things like ultrasounds etc. And of course, it's a good option to have for someone planning on getting pregnant because they have a lot of choices over what way they will go for their care.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭roy rodgers


    No don't have it and never did.
    Broke my arm and needed an operation and it and was done straight away so don't see the point in health insurance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,733 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Do you not mean ETA insurance, insurance for the Basque Separatists.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Yeah, it's only €80 per month. I have a chronic stomach problem, could be useful to the long run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Can't afford it, don't always get paid for work. It would have been a great help when the wife got cancer, but nothing we could do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭anamara86


    I have health insurance too - for me, it's for piece of mind should anything happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    I didnt have it for years but after damaging my leg fairly bad a few years ago and forking out quite a lot on hospital visits etc I decided to have it as a back up in case the same should happen again. I did settle on VHI in the end but with the proposed increases in premiums this year Im doing some serious shopping around and maybe even change companies to get a cheaper deal. Im only after a basic plan, nothing too fancy, and that is better than nothing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭sxt


    Hi All,

    Like the thread says do you have health insurance?!

    i don't but am slightly apprehensive that i actually should have. Don't get me wrong, I'm in good health (early 30s) and all that but most of my peers have insurance and i get quizzical looks when i tell them i don't.
    .

    You would have got quizzical looks if you said you weren't trying to get on the property ladder 4 or 5 years ago.. or if you weren't watching the x factor 3-4 years ago..Why does it matter to you what way people look at you? Your the boss


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    I wouldn't be without it either. In the same way as it's reassuring to have it (well, mandatory!) if you drive, it's reassuring to have it so you're covered should you be unfortunate enough to ever need to avail of it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Employer pays for mine and the wife and kids so I am lucky. But I would not be without it. It has saved us money and gotten us good fast care over the years.

    Yes the public system will be fast in certain situations like a broken arm op....but for something life threatening I would not want to be at the mercy of a bankrupt health system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,293 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    I do but I don't think the insurance company know about half the sh!te I do be getting involved in.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    Sticks and stones may break my bones, but f*ck it I've got VHI


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭B Rabbit


    Yep! Employer pays for it. Early 20s btw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭hattoncracker


    If I get my permanent contract, I'll get it through work..

    If not, I'm thinking of getting it, but will habe to see how much my car insurance will have gone up because of the vaginal extra..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    If I get my permanent contract, I'll get it through work..

    If not, I'm thinking of getting it, but will habe to see how much my car insurance will have gone up because of the vaginal extra..


    Because of the what?? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭StinkyMunkey


    Im a family man, 2 kids and a wife, getting VHI was a no brainer for me.

    Its the difference between going public or private.

    Public is fine if you like long queues and have a high pain threshold.

    Private/semi private wins hands down.

    Went semi private with both kids, public is ok if you like the Zoo (these days anyway). That my experience in dublin anyway!

    After a particular bad crash on the motorbike, it helped a great deal having VHI.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭cosbloodymick


    How do you manage to get your employer to buy you your health insurance?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I'm in my 30's and I have it. But only since I started with my current employer 5 years ago. I've been hospitalised twice in the last 5 years and they're the only times I've been in hospital since I was a kid. The first time I ended up on a chest ward with a load of old guys. One screamed his way through the night, every night. After two days a private room became available and I was shunted off. For that alone I'm grateful I had insurance.

    Besides that I've needed follow ups. Every year I go to a private hospital for a couple of procedures. The VHI only covers some of it but still saves me hundreds. I pay about €70 myself. Still it means no waiting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    How do you manage to get your employer to buy you your health insurance?

    Part of the contract with mine. Most of the big multinationals have the option.

    I know there was one guy who complained because it counts as benefit in kind and affected his PRSI. He did some maths (I don't know how accurate) and worked out that it was a few quid cheaper per year to buy it himself. He spend ages chasing after the company until eventually they removed him from the company health plan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭hattoncracker


    Czarcasm wrote: »


    Because of the what?? :pac:


    My car insurance is going up because I have a vagina and the insurance companies decided that its much fairer to make me pay extra than to let men pay less because penises dont effect driving ability unless you are very well hung and get turned on by traffic lights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    Absolutely, I wouldnt be without it. I pay it through work out of my salary. I had bad hip pain 3 months ago so my doctor sent me to get it looked at and because I had health insurance he sent me private. Here I am after being operated on and I feel great. I got an MRI in a week after my first consultation and 2 weeks after seeing my consultant was going under the knife. A friend of mine who doesnt have insurance needs an MRI on his shoulder and when he went to see his GP in November last year was told he would get his MRI in August 2013 at the earliest. I dread to think how long it would have taken for my operation if I didnt have insurance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭cosbloodymick


    Grayson wrote: »
    Part of the contract with mine. Most of the big multinationals have the option.

    I know there was one guy who complained because it counts as benefit in kind and affected his PRSI. He did some maths (I don't know how accurate) and worked out that it was a few quid cheaper per year to buy it himself. He spend ages chasing after the company until eventually they removed him from the company health plan.


    Is it always taxed as BIK? And what rate is BIK?, the same rate as income tax?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭thenightrider


    NO i don't have it and I am very sick i just cant afford it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭Max Power


    Yes I do, it gives me piece of mind.

    Was talking a female friend the other day and she was telling me her friend had a baby last year but didn't have HI. She had to wait 9 months to have it. Shocking!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,068 ✭✭✭LoonyLovegood


    Don't have it. Can't afford it anyway, I went shopping around, it's too expensive. I'm already heavily entangled in the public system anyway, so there I will stay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,278 ✭✭✭x43r0


    Yep, employer covers it. Dental plan too









    .......Lisa needs braces


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭anniehoo


    No dont have it, i just couldnt stretch to another bill for €80+/mth without totally becoming a hermit to pay all my bills.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Don't have it, can't afford it.

    Sad thing is I have health insurance on both my dogs and my cat :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm




    My car insurance is going up because I have a vagina and the insurance companies decided that its much fairer to make me pay extra than to let men pay less because penises dont effect driving ability unless you are very well hung and get turned on by traffic lights.


    Ohh right! Makes much more sense now! :D

    Damn androgynous usernames! :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    I had a shop and she was my best (looking)customer, got chatting and it all went from there. Married with two kids now, still mad about her.



    I've a feeling I'm mixing somthing up tonight, not sure what.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    How do you manage to get your employer to buy you your health insurance?

    Part of benefits from some employers

    I have it wouldn't be without it.
    Pottler wrote: »
    I had a shop and she was my best (looking)customer, got chatting and it all went from there. Married with two kids now, still mad about her.



    I've a feeling I'm mixing somthing up tonight, not sure what.

    You may have misread HI to be something else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭anniehoo


    Don't have it, can't afford it.

    Sad thing is I have health insurance on both my dogs and my cat :(
    Same boat, although my cats insurance is only €9/mth ...wish it was the same for me :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,656 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Don't have it at the moment. Maybe when I stop paying Sky and spending money stupidly it'll happen. So soon enough is the plan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Jijsaw


    Yep, employer covers it. Dental plan too









    .......Lisa needs braces


    Lenny: Dental Plan!
    Marge: Lisa needs braces.
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    Marge: Lisa needs braces.
    Lenny: Dental Plan!
    Marge: Lisa needs braces.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    my trips to the hospital (as a patient) are on average one a decade, so don't really see the value in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭Sugar Free


    Employer pays in full for a pretty decent plan. Very fortunate as otherwise the same plan would be upwards of 1000E a year I believe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    Stheno wrote: »


    You may have misread HI to be something else?
    Or I may have been messing/confused/taking the mick at which particular survey thread I was replying to.;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭omega666


    its expensive being the best part of a 1000 euro a year min.

    Worth it if you have a family or get frequently sick, If money is tight and your young, single with no history of illness its worth taking a chance and do without id say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    Have it all my life, just put the wife on it this year, she had a medical card till then.
    Would have got a bill for €850 last month but the HI paid it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,277 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    Have had it for years now and wouldn't go without it. I'd even give up pints, sky, internet for it. Easily.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    omega666 wrote: »
    its expensive being the best part of a 1000 euro a year min.

    Worth it if you have a family or get frequently sick, If money is tight and your young, single with no history of illness its worth taking a chance and do without id say

    Have an unexpected non critical accident and see the difference that makes.

    happened to me, HI for the last five years, odd claim for doctor visits.

    One bad accident, what with scans and access to private surgeons got sorted far quicker than on public health. Having it also means that the long term care I will need will not have me scrabbling for €1000 every six months, it's covered by my health insurance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭omega666


    Stheno wrote: »
    Have an unexpected non critical accident and see the difference that makes.

    happened to me, HI for the last five years, odd claim for doctor visits.

    One bad accident, what with scans and access to private surgeons got sorted far quicker than on public health. Having it also means that the long term care I will need will not have me scrabbling for €1000 every six months, it's covered by my health insurance.



    I did, i broke my leg a few years back and needed an operation and couple nights stay in hospital. And regular visits to a physio for a few months after. It was all done under 2 weeks and didn't cost me a bob except for the A and E charge and a small sum for the 2 nights in hospital stay if i can remember correctly.

    I actually had VHI at the time but didn't even have to use it.
    I gave it up straight after that and haven't needed to use it since then.
    I was paying just under a 1000 a year so by that reckoning i've saved myself
    nearly 5000 euro!!
    I'll prob sign up again for VHI again when im older but quitting it 5 years ago was certainly the right decision.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    omega666 wrote: »
    I did, i broke my leg a few years back and needed an operation and couple nights stay in hospital. And regular visits to a physio for a few months after. It was all done under 2 weeks and didn't cost me a bob except for the A and E charge and a small sum for the 2 nights in hospital stay if i can remember correctly.

    I actually had VHI at the time but didn't even have to use it.
    I gave it up straight after that and haven't needed to use it since then.
    I was paying just under a 1000 a year so by that reckoning i've saved myself
    nearly 5000 euro!!

    I said non critical meaning no broken bones.

    I've had three MRI scans (€600) first within two days of booking, and superb follow on treatment that has cost me over €2000 since I had an accident.

    Without HI I'd not have been able to afford it as I know I can claim it back, I'd still be waiting for one scan six months later.

    Six months of physio is also not cheap. And being able to see a physio without taking time off work is in itself worth a lot to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭omega666


    Stheno wrote: »
    I said non critical meaning no broken bones.

    I've had three MRI scans (€600) first within two days of booking, and superb follow on treatment that has cost me over €2000 since I had an accident.

    Without HI I'd not have been able to afford it as I know I can claim it back, I'd still be waiting for one scan six months later.

    Six months of physio is also not cheap. And being able to see a physio without taking time off work is in itself worth a lot to me.




    Look every person is different,
    It may have saved you a fortune whereas if you never needed to use it then you might have viewed it as wasted money.

    If someone has track record of having health problems then of course it makes sense to have insurance.

    On the other hand if you don't have a history of problems and money is tight then take a chance which i did and its worked out for me so far as i've an extra 5000 euro in my pocket.

    I may get hit by a car crossing the road tomorrow or i may never get sick again until i'm 85. I'm happy to take that chance.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    omega666 wrote: »
    Look every person is different,
    It may have saved you a fortune whereas if you never needed to use it then you might have viewed it as wasted money.

    If someone has track record of having health problems then of course it makes sense to have insurance.

    On the other hand if you don't have a history of problems and money is tight then take a chance which i did and its worked out for me so far as i've an extra 5000 euro in my pocket.

    I may get hit by a car crossing the road tomorrow or i may never get sick again until i'm 85. I'm happy to take that chance.

    I agree to be honest :)

    I just like to have that assurance that if something goes wrong I'm not restricted due to finances to the public system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    I had it put cancelled it when i realised you still have to pay for a GP yourself. Its kinda pointless unless its free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    I wish I had it but just can't afford it at the minute.
    My grandad is in hospital for the last couple of months and I wish he had insurance. I'd love if he could be in the Mater private or something, but instead he's stuck in Mary's in the Phoenix park. What a hell hole that is. I wouldn't wish that place on my worst enemy.


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