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Utv broadband throttling

  • 07-01-2013 11:52pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭


    On Sunday night my Internet stopped I rang on Monday and they told me that I was using BitTorrent on Sunday and uploaded 3 g/b of data so according to ther new rules the turned off my net. I am unlimited downloads with them I up / down about 28 gb a month the told me if I use BitTorrent it has to be off peak hours which according to them is 12 midnight to 10 am. Any idea what I can do


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    Any idea what I can do

    Stop using BitTorrent.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 331 ✭✭Harry Deerpark


    Detonate a car bomb outside their headquarters. That'll show 'em.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭tfitzgerald


    Great advice. Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭Xcellor


    New rules? Is this a change in terms and conditions. If it is and you are in contract then this could be considered reason enough to leave the contract without penalty and move to another provider.

    Move to vodafone, if you are lucky you will get a decent service and 350 gigs of usage. I do a lot of downloading and don't even get close to 100 gigs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 331 ✭✭Harry Deerpark


    Great advice. Thanks

    You got stupid answers because the question is stupid. The simple answer is to change providers.

    I'm with Eircom and I use uTorrent 24/7. Never have I once seen my speeds throttled. In fact, I rang technical support one day and asked them how to port forward my router and configure it with my torrent client, he was more than happy to oblige. He even said "happy torrenting" or something like that after the conversation finished.

    Most Eircom packages are unlimited, I rarely go over 100GB a month anyway despite leaving uTorrent on day and night.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭AntiRip


    On Sunday night my Internet stopped I rang on Monday and they told me that I was using BitTorrent on Sunday and uploaded 3 g/b of data so according to ther new rules the turned off my net. I am unlimited downloads with them I up / down about 28 gb a month the told me if I use BitTorrent it has to be off peak hours which according to them is 12 midnight to 10 am. Any idea what I can do

    Never heard of these new rules either. I'm only getting between 1 and 2mbps the last few evenings between around 9pm and 12pm on 7mb package. Am with them a few years and the majority of the time was great. May ring them tomorrow and see what the story is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭AntiRip


    Xcellor wrote: »
    New rules? Is this a change in terms and conditions. If it is and you are in contract then this could be considered reason enough to leave the contract without penalty and move to another provider.

    Move to vodafone, if you are lucky you will get a decent service and 350 gigs of usage. I do a lot of downloading and don't even get close to 100 gigs.

    The reason I haven't considered Vodafone yet are some of the horror stories, although the same can be said about utvinternet. How is your experience with them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭Xcellor


    AntiRip wrote: »

    The reason I haven't considered Vodafone yet are some of the horror stories, although the same can be said about utvinternet. How is your experience with them?
    I have 24 mb with them and i get around 17, about 1.4mB per sec. For 52 euro i get 350 gigs and download all i want, stream hd, download games, xbox, home office.


    Few issues. Nothing major. Was with utv before i switched would not give me package at the best price so i left... not regretted it tbh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭AntiRip


    Xcellor wrote: »
    I have 24 mb with them and i get around 17, about 1.4mB per sec. For 52 euro i get 350 gigs and download all i want, stream hd, download games, xbox, home office.


    Few issues. Nothing major. Was with utv before i switched would not give me package at the best price so i left... not regretted it tbh

    Was looking at the Vodafone site and it said if your line doesn't support their enhanced broadband you only get 3mb. My line is only capable of 6mb or so. So not sure what I can get off them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 331 ✭✭Harry Deerpark


    You got stupid answers because the question is stupid. The simple answer is to change providers.

    I'm with Eircom and I use uTorrent 24/7. Never have I once seen my speeds throttled. In fact, I rang technical support one day and asked them how to port forward my router and configure it with my torrent client, he was more than happy to oblige. He even said "happy torrenting" or something like that after the conversation finished.

    Most Eircom packages are unlimited, I rarely go over 100GB a month anyway despite leaving uTorrent on day and night.


    I mean, I rarely go over 200 GB a month.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭tfitzgerald


    Thanks for all the replays lads. I couldn't believe it when tech support told me they slowed mt Internet because I uploaded 3 gb on Sunday and then kept going on about fair usage. I only download / upload about 30 gb a month and I am on unlimited useage. It was an Indian chap I was talking to and he sounded new and a bit unsure of himself so maybe he told me things he should not have even thou he said the new rules are on there website


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭AntiRip


    Thanks for all the replays lads. I couldn't believe it when tech support told me they slowed mt Internet because I uploaded 3 gb on Sunday and then kept going on about fair usage. I only download / upload about 30 gb a month and I am on unlimited useage. It was an Indian chap I was talking to and he sounded new and a bit unsure of himself so maybe he told me things he should not have even thou he said the new rules are on there website

    This is the only policy I can find on their website. It states that you will be contacted by email 3 times before you are restricted/throttled

    http://www.utvinternet.com/pdfs/NI_ADSL_FUP_May_07.pdf
    If you don't use Peer to Peer or file sharing software it is unlikely you will ever be affected by this Fair
    Usage Policy. If you do use Peer to Peer or file sharing software, all we ask is that you use this software
    considerately and send and receive large files outside of peak hours.
    If you are affected, we will contact you by email to let you know that your usage at peak hours is
    excessive and is affecting other customers.
    If your usage is still excessive, we will contact you again by email to ask you to reduce your sending and
    receiving of large files during peak hours. If your usage still remains excessive during peak hours, we
    will contact you a third time to advise you that we will be restricting your bandwidth during peak hours
    for the good of all other customers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭tfitzgerald


    Thanks Antirip. I read their terms as well. I have my file shareing turned off every night between 7 and 1. The teck guy told me their peak usage times was 10 am to twelve midnight. Not 6 pm to midnight. Also and I have checked. I got no email whatsoever of utv. I also pay extra for unlimited usage. I don't think 30 gb over a month for all my Internet in unfair


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,519 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    they told me that I was using BitTorrent on Sunday and uploaded 3 g/b of data so according to ther new rules the turned off my net.

    WTF is wrong with using bittorrent? There are tons of legitimate uses.

    Edit: did they just mean using peer to peer? Do UTV now now allow you to download WoW without throttling you, which uses p2p for example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭tfitzgerald


    He specifically mentioned BitTorrent and said under there new rules if I use it again I will be slowed down to nothing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,519 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    How are they detecting the software you are using? Bittorrent is just a client. I assume he actually meant peer to peer, which is in no way illegal. I would drop them myself for such incompetence and poor customer service. You should first check out your contract to see if it mentions anything about "bitorrent".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭AntiRip


    He specifically mentioned BitTorrent and said under there new rules if I use it again I will be slowed down to nothing

    I'm just off the phone there to them. He said there was nothing wrong with my line. I asked if I was being throttled and he said only bittorrent traffic would be throttled at peak hours. I said I used it and he said just use it during off-peak hours, before 5pm and after midnight and I'll be fine.

    I asked why I was only getting 1-1.5mbps in the evenings and he said 'maybe contention' and he could do nothing. I'm on the 12:1 contention so it shouldn't be dropping by 4/5!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,519 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    AntiRip wrote: »
    I asked if I was being throttled and he said only bittorrent traffic would be throttled at peak hours.

    Did you ask him what he meant by bittorent traffic? Surely they mean peer to peer, which is bull****. Change providers imo if at all possible. There are tons of legit uses for p2p traffic. Many games nowadays deliver updates via p2p (though you can often turn that off).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭AntiRip


    Did you ask him what he meant by bittorent traffic? Surely they mean peer to peer, which is bull****. Change providers imo if at all possible. There are tons of legit uses for p2p traffic. Many games nowadays deliver updates via p2p (though you can often turn that off).

    Sure BitTorrent is P2P. I told him I used uTorrent and he said that should be fine as long as you shut it down during peak hours.

    Am only getting 0.7mbps now out of 6mbps and they say they can't so anything about it. What's changed over the last week as its been almost perfect for 2 years :confused:

    Think ill have to ring them again tomorrow. Can't use Netflix or YT so I might as well have nothing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭tfitzgerald


    Let us know how you get on Antirip. I have had utv for nearly 6 years And never had a problem with them. But lately my speeds have dropped way down


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭AntiRip


    Let us know how you get on Antirip. I have had utv for nearly 6 years And never had a problem with them. But lately my speeds have dropped way down

    Will do, but the fact he said there was nothing they can do is weird. He said you have to allow for contention but not this much. If I was getting 5mb out of the 6mb that would be fine. It's mad stuff to have 6mb now never mind 0.7mb in this day and age isn't it, and were supposed to be the Internet hub of Europe :)

    12 o clock and back up to 6mb again, amazing timing again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭DECEiFER


    I used to be a UTV customer for many years and this rule of theirs about P2Ping during the small hours was not a rule at all but merely a request for consideration to other users. The fact is, unless they've changed the terms and had you agree to them, they have no right to throttle your connection. My suggestion is to carefully read the pertinent sections of the T&C and FUP on their website to give you the facts.

    EDIT: Right on the top of the FUP, I found the section pertaining to peer-to-peer.

    http://www.utvinternet.com/pdfs/ROI_DSL_Res_FUP_27_Jan_06_onwards.pdf:
    A very small number of customers use Peer to Peer or file sharing software, which constantly sends and receives video and other very large files, throughout the day. This type of activity uses a lot of bandwidth and can significantly reduce the speed at which other customers can access the internet during peak hours. Approximately 1% of customers use more than 30% of the available bandwidth during peak hours. We don't believe this is fair to the vast majority of our customers. This fair usage policy automatically identifies the very small number of extremely heavy users and we reserve the right to manage their bandwidth only during peak hours (6pm to 11pm Monday to Sunday), to protect the service for all our other customers. Outside peak hours, the use of the internet by these heavy users is unaffected.

    You know Virgin Media in the UK had/have traffic management rules which were/are well publicized on their website? Depending on what package you were on, you'd be allowed to download only a certain amount in a certain space of time of the day during certain hours. Go over the limit, you get throttled for a number of hours (but not cut off and by how much depended again on your package) and by the time the off-peak section of the day came around, at the latest, you'd be released back to your regular speeds. Again, I'm not sure of their current policies, I'm sure they've been changed over the years. If they're still doing it, their website will have it documented for full transparency. So if you do become a customer of theirs, there's no excuse for being ignorant of the policy. Since unless UTV have advertised their traffic policy to support the action they've taken on you (on their website, T&C, AUP/FUP, etc.), they are not out of bounds to throttle your connection during the remaining of the peak hours (which as you can see are not 10am to 12am, but 6pm to 11pm) but disconnecting you or keeping your connection throttled past the off-peak hour of 11pm is unacceptable. What's written in their legal documentation is gospel, they have to abide by their rules just like you do. If an agent says anything different to what's written, you can tell him or her where to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭swampyk08


    I left UTV last year after 10+years with them. They had serious speed issues in the evening that they couldnt resolve.
    Switched to Eircom and have a consistent line since.

    Heres the thread:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=81103402


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭DECEiFER


    swampyk08 wrote: »
    I left UTV last year after 10+years with them. They had serious speed issues in the evening that they couldnt resolve.
    Switched to Eircom and have a consistent line since.

    Heres the thread:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=81103402
    I bet they blamed Eircom? Always had serious speed issues with them during the evenings (5pm-12am) from July to January every year when I was living in Trelee on the Killerisk exchange. They wouldn't do a thing for me and always, always, blamed Eircom and when I suggested it was over-subscription on the exchange in general, they didn't deny it, but I half suspect it was just a fob-off.

    UTV are notorious for blaming Eircom even when problems are their own fault. Whether my past problems were Eircom's or their fault, we'll never know for sure, but I do remember one January morning when the DSL sync was down completely. I went to work an hour later and by lunch time it was back up. After that, no more problems in the evenings (until July, of course!). That's the only evidence I have that points the finger at Eircom.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,450 Mod ✭✭✭✭dub45


    DECEiFER wrote: »
    I bet they blamed Eircom? Always had serious speed issues with them during the evenings (5pm-12am) from July to January every year when I was living in Trelee on the Killerisk exchange. They wouldn't do a thing for me and always, always, blamed Eircom and when I suggested it was over-subscription on the exchange in general, they didn't deny it, but I half suspect it was just a fob-off.

    UTV are notorious for blaming Eircom even when problems are their own fault. Whether my past problems were Eircom's or their fault, we'll never know for sure, but I do remember one January morning when the DSL sync was down completely. I went to work an hour later and by lunch time it was back up. After that, no more problems in the evenings (until July, of course!). That's the only evidence I have that points the finger at Eircom.

    Sadly it has always been reflex for UTV to blame Eircom irrespective of the issue. I once had a UTV rep blame Eircom for a billing issue!!! That's not to say that there are issues caused by Eircom but they are not responsible for everything.

    As I often write its hard to believe now that UTV were once the darling of boards for innovative products and remarkable customer service then sadly cute hoorism set in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 shug02


    Folks, I've been troubleshooting low peak time download speeds with UTV for the past 6 months. I've recorded my speeds here

    Note that the issues seemed unsolvable back in Nov so getting frustrated I asked Eircom to transfer the service. The day after the transfer was ordered the probelm went away and it stayed away until Eircom gave back the line rental at the end of DEcember.

    Immediately on returning the line rental to UTV the issue reappeared with crap peak-time download speeds.

    I should say that UTV have been emailing me consistently with updates - but no progress unfortunately since the line went back to them

    Are Eircom deliberately giving UTV customers poor speeds to encourage them back to Eircom? Is that even possible?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭AntiRip


    shug02 wrote: »
    Folks, I've been troubleshooting low peak time download speeds with UTV for the past 6 months. I've recorded my speeds here

    Note that the issues seemed unsolvable back in Nov so getting frustrated I asked Eircom to transfer the service. The day after the transfer was ordered the probelm went away and it stayed away until Eircom gave back the line rental at the end of DEcember.

    Immediately on returning the line rental to UTV the issue reappeared with crap peak-time download speeds.

    I should say that UTV have been emailing me consistently with updates - but no progress unfortunately since the line went back to them

    Are Eircom deliberately giving UTV customers poor speeds to encourage them back to Eircom? Is that even possible?

    I've been with UTV Internet for the last couple of years and had no trouble with them. Actually the best ISP I ever had. No contention and consistent speeds. The last few weeks they've instruduced some sort of traffic management. Between 6pm to 8pm and 12am its restricted to 1-2mb. I don't really mind as it doesn't seem to affect Netflix. YouTube etc. I download outside these hours also. I guess it takes pressure off the network during peak hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭DHFrame


    shug02 wrote: »
    Folks, I've been troubleshooting low peak time download speeds with UTV for the past 6 months. I've recorded my speeds here

    Note that the issues seemed unsolvable back in Nov so getting frustrated I asked Eircom to transfer the service. The day after the transfer was ordered the problem went away and it stayed away until Eircom gave back the line rental at the end of DEcember.

    Immediately on returning the line rental to UTV the issue reappeared with crap peak-time download speeds.

    I should say that UTV have been emailing me consistently with updates - but no progress unfortunately since the line went back to them

    Are Eircom deliberately giving UTV customers poor speeds to encourage them back to Eircom? Is that even possible?

    Eircom can't throttle or control another providers service. That would be like having a tap in your house going through next doors house first, and they choose when you can have water and how much.

    I was having the very same issues. Try removing the telephone adsl filter and plug the modem straight into the phone line. Now if you have any Monitored alarms in the house it might be worth checking if you have a adsl filter on the actual alarm, as plugging in the modem directly into the phone line will scramble the monitoring signal/server from contact the alarm, resulting in an error.

    I had a vast, vast improvement with UTV by removing this filter. I have made sure that any file sharing software can only operate between 1am and 8am, obeying the fair usage policy.

    Now the only problems I have at the moment is streaming bbc iplayer stuff in the evenings. I don't know if it's a bbc, itv, youtube demand problem, or it could be the unblock us service causing slow downs, it could be a number of things. It could be the Humax box, PS3, everything always seems very good on my Windows PC regardless of time. I get a constant 7000kbps from UTV even when I have streaming service issues. Which would suggest, it's not UTV. But I am 50% on that. I need to do a bit more testing.

    Hope this helps. Report back on the ADSL filter thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭tfitzgerald


    I only download after midnight as well and I have had no problems with speed since. I was going to go to sky BB but from reading other treads here that seems to be a nightmare.

    P s. I did have a problem with the Internet dropping for a while but they seem to have sorted it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭DHFrame


    PogMoThoin wrote: »
    Stop using BitTorrent.....

    Nah u dont need to stop using it. At the end of the day using bit torrent can cause users to slow down. They are giving you an option and you should take advantage of it. Schedule bit torrent to only work between the hours of 1am and 8am. I did it the other night and managed to download 8 gigs of stuff. If you need more than that a night, then u have issues because it would take u a week to watch 8 gigs worth of stuff. You don't need bit torrent 24/7. That's greed. And if you do then u are just hoarding stuff like so many users do. Personally I think it's great that they are throttling people who abuse the system especially when they are giving you an option to do it when people are in bed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭DHFrame


    WTF is wrong with using bittorrent? There are tons of legitimate uses.

    Edit: did they just mean using peer to peer? Do UTV now now allow you to download WoW without throttling you, which uses p2p for example.

    Legitimate users. I would say 99.5% of bit torrentees are not swapping holiday photos.

    At the end of the day 1000s of users maxing out 750kbps over several hours on an evening is going to have a detrimental effect on the quality of you're Internet. Why sit here staring at bbc iplayer loading screen because Dave is downloading the whole series 1,2,3,4,5,6 of dexter? He pays the very same as me for Internet yet I am waiting and waiting night after night while he downloads 3 years worth of content in 1 month. How do we control it? Ah, let him do it while I'm in bed. Genius. And if he complains about it then good luck to him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭AntiRip


    I haven't used bittorrent in over 2 months. If I need to download anything I download during the day. Still getting horrendous speeds in the evening. If I stream YouTube or Netflix it's fuzzy as it compensates for low bandwidth. Gets 6.5mb up to around 8pm and 0.5-1.0mbps there after. Logged a complaint and rang numerous times but they said there's nothing wrong with my line, so I've given up at this stage.

    I just download what I need during the day to watch during the evening. It takes the spontaneity out of surfing in the evening but that's it. It just maddens me to be putting up with this type of broadband in 2013.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭DHFrame


    AntiRip wrote: »
    I haven't used bittorrent in over 2 months. If I need to download anything I download during the day. Still getting horrendous speeds in the evening. If I stream YouTube or Netflix it's fuzzy as it compensates for low bandwidth. Gets 6.5mb up to around 8pm and 0.5-1.0mbps there after. Logged a complaint and rang numerous times but they said there's nothing wrong with my line, so I've given up at this stage.

    I just download what I need during the day to watch during the evening. It takes the spontaneity out of surfing in the evening but that's it. It just maddens me to be putting up with this type of broadband in 2013.

    AntiRip, have u tried removing the Adsl pots filter and plugging modem straight into telephone socket? That's what I did to fix the very thing you are having issues with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭AntiRip


    DHFrame wrote: »
    AntiRip, have u tried removing the Adsl pots filter and plugging modem straight into telephone socket? That's what I did to fix the very thing you are having issues with.

    I will test this out this evening. Only thing is u can't use the phone if it solves it? Why doesn't this effect speeds during the day? Is it the extra noise on the line in the evenings maybe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭DHFrame


    AntiRip wrote: »
    I will test this out this evening. Only thing is u can't use the phone if it solves it? Why doesn't this effect speeds during the day? Is it the extra noise on the line in the evenings maybe

    Well, if u have two lines, I have a socket in the hall and one in the living room. Place the filter on the phone in the living room and then modem straight in at the hall. Depends how you're set up I suppose, any monitored alarms will need a filter as well. I don't know why the evenings are bad, it's weird alright. The min I took the filter away I was fast.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭AntiRip


    I tried your suggestion but unfortunately it didn't work. The drop in speed is always around the same time 8.30pm to just after midnight when it shoots up from 0.8mbps to 6.5mbps.

    I noticed too that my router is actually down a bedroom and the socket is in the sitting room. There's a reel of RJ11 (15m) connected from router to the socket. This one to be precise --http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/catalogId/14551/partNumber/5521704.htm

    There's alot of cable still in the reel. Could this be affecting the speeds in the evenings anyone thing? Is there a limit (<1m) that the phone cable should be from the router to socket?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭DHFrame


    AntiRip wrote: »
    I tried your suggestion but unfortunately it didn't work. The drop in speed is always around the same time 8.30pm to just after midnight when it shoots up from 0.8mbps to 6.5mbps.

    I noticed too that my router is actually down a bedroom and the socket is in the sitting room. There's a reel of RJ11 (15m) connected from router to the socket. This one to be precise --http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/catalogId/14551/partNumber/5521704.htm

    There's alot of cable still in the reel. Could this be affecting the speeds in the evenings anyone thing? Is there a limit (<1m) that the phone cable should be from the router to socket?

    That's a shame. The shorter the better I suppose. I have about 12cm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭DHFrame


    DHFrame wrote: »
    That's a shame. The shorter the better I suppose. I have about 12cm.

    I was thinking. Record your Internet connection speeds. One every 2 hours for 2/3 weeks. Ring utv and complain, get the operators name and email address and email all the results. Complain that if you do not see an improvement e.g, the maximum best result you get often within 3 working days then state that you will seek advise on cancelling your contract, without being penalised, due to using a product that does not work as intended. It might be useful, if you are friendly with your neighbours, for them to provide a few night time speed tests to show that it's only you. I hope u get sorted, I'd rather have a working Internet over a TV any day of the week.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭AntiRip


    DHFrame wrote: »
    I was thinking. Record your Internet connection speeds. One every 2 hours for 2/3 weeks. Ring utv and complain, get the operators name and email address and email all the results. Complain that if you do not see an improvement e.g, the maximum best result you get often within 3 working days then state that you will seek advise on cancelling your contract, without being penalised, due to using a product that does not work as intended. It might be useful, if you are friendly with your neighbours, for them to provide a few night time speed tests to show that it's only you. I hope u get sorted, I'd rather have a working Internet over a TV any day of the week.

    I'm with them about 2 and half years so not in contract. I'm also out in the sticks so my neighbours either don't have Internet or have wireless bb such as PermaNet. You're right about the TV and the Internet :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭AntiRip


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    and they say there's nothing wrong with my line!..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭smileyj1987


    AntiRip wrote: »
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    and they say there's nothing wrong with my line!..

    Ditch them ASAP they are a horrible company to have as your Broadband provider . I have just switched over to Sky because I hated UTV that much . I know Sky are having a few problems at the minute but anything is better then UTV .
    I got sent a letter by them before stating I was due an upgrade from 3mb to 8mb . But it actually took me 3 phone calls for them to give me the new speeed they told me they would give me . I then rang them about 6 months ago because work was being done on the cables around my area because my neighbour who is with Eircom informed them that the line might not work too well for a period of 2 weeks while they carried out the upgrade . When it was done Eircom upgraded them to a 24mb service so I decided to ring up UTV and ask them could they bump up my speed and they told me yes if I signed a new contract . I mean that is lousy by them I had them for 3 years but I have finally gotten fed up with them . I only signed up with them 3 years ago because they could offer me the highest bandwidth usage in my area .
    I was with Sky yesterday in Dundalk and the sales man really knew his stuff . He was very upfront because he did a few tests on my line throughout day . I had to wait for somebody to come home to get me an account number . He even showed me alot of previous line tests from other lines he did over the last month and I had the fastest line he tested that month . He also gave me a phone number for his mobile and for the stand too and told me any problems ring him and it will be sorted or he will guide me through cancelling the contract .

    Sorry for the long winded post but switch from UTV ASAP .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭tfitzgerald


    You got stupid answers because the question is stupid. The simple answer is to change

    There is no such thing as a stupid question. If you don't know the answer its a valid question. But there are plenty of examples of stupid, unhelpful and ignorant answers from people who know it all
    U


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3 UTV Connect


    There have been some recent capacity issues on the Eircom network that have been affecting download speeds.

    This issue has now been resolved and service should be dramatically better.

    If any UTV Connect customers have any further issues please contact our dedicated local support team on 1890 926 111.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,450 Mod ✭✭✭✭dub45


    Are you categorically stating that this has been Eircom's fault?

    If so why hasn't boards been inundated with complaints from other ISP dsl customers?


    It has long been a matter of reflex for UTV to blame Eircom for everything.

    I once had a UTV CSR blame Eircom for a billing error!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭tfitzgerald


    dub45 wrote: »
    Are you categorically stating that this has been Eircom's fault?

    If so why hasn't boards been inundated with complaints from other ISP dsl customers?


    It has long been a matter of reflex for UTV to blame Eircom for everything.

    I once had a UTV CSR blame Eircom for a billing error!

    You are right on this one Dub45. They are always blaming eircom. They would be better of saying it was a fault on one of there computers. But they should have the problem solved soon. Blaming eircom Is Passing the buck a bit. But at least they have come on boards and are starting to talk to us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    They're very quick to blame eircom for things that in all likelihood have anything to do with eircom.

    It's quite unfair to be honest as the eircom core NGN network's pretty rock solid and has huge capacity. If there was an issue it would impact eircom customers and lots of other ISPs too.

    There are some very small exchanges which have capacity issues, but they are across all DSL providers using them, not just UTV.

    If your line's not syncing to the DSLAM (exchange) correctly, then it's an eircom fault on the local access network. However, speed issues that very during the day are almost always down to contention and lack of capacity on the ISP's own network.

    A lot of DSL providers don't own any of their own infrastructure and purchase wholesale services and capacity on national fibre networks from other companies that provide wholesale products including voice services, national connectivity over their fibre networks, DSLAM local access products etc etc.

    Those wholesalers include Eircom, BT Ireland and a couple of other major operators like ESB Telecoms, UPC, Vodafone/CWW Ireland, and a few others too, they're not all huge companies there are small specialists out there too.

    They also purchase capacity on international fibre links to provide onwards connectivity to the Internet outside of Ireland.

    Mostly, where there are ongoing problems with speed / peak time capacity it's because the ISP has insufficient capacity purchased.

    It's a bit like saying "OMG We've run out of milk due to Tesco" rather than "oops I didn't go to Tesco and buy milk"

    A lot of people make the mistake of assuming that these companies are just 'reselling' eircom's DSL service. That isn't really the case at all. They are using eircom's access networks to reach your home, but they build up their own core networks by either using their own equipment or renting space on other networks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭DHFrame


    My UTV Connection has being turbo for a good few weeks now. Removing the Adsl pots filter helped as well. If it stays like this then its going to be the best service I have had in Ireland in 10 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭AntiRip


    DHFrame wrote: »
    My UTV Connection has being turbo for a good few weeks now. Removing the Adsl pots filter helped as well. If it stays like this then its going to be the best service I have had in Ireland in 10 years.

    I'm totally opposite :). Took filter off and connected modem straight into socket. Tried another modem, changed the rj11 cable with shorter cable and still bad. It was the worst yet last night. 0.2mbps download. Cancelled netflix last month, now I can't watch YouTube after 7pm. I've noticed the congestion is getting earlier in the evening also. I'm afraid to move and go into contract if it's the exchange that's congested it doesn't matter who I'm with.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3 UTV Connect


    AntiRip wrote: »
    I'm totally opposite :). Took filter off and connected modem straight into socket. Tried another modem, changed the rj11 cable with shorter cable and still bad. It was the worst yet last night. 0.2mbps download. Cancelled netflix last month, now I can't watch YouTube after 7pm. I've noticed the congestion is getting earlier in the evening also. I'm afraid to move and go into contract if it's the exchange that's congested it doesn't matter who I'm with.

    Sorry to hear that. Can you PM us your contact details and we will call you and get this sorted today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭tfitzgerald


    I have to say that for the last 2/3 weeks my Internet has being very good. They stopped the dropping of the Internet I was having trouble with and everything is fine.


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