Unbelievable cheek!

Cheshire Cat

Need to have a quick rant, sorry.

Took my sons to school this morning as it was lashing rain. Parked uphill on Threadneedle Rd to let them out.
The car parked uphill from me started rolling back, I hooted repeatedly, but the car rolled into mine. The driver of the car made no attempt to get out and apologise. So after waiting a bit I got out and knockd on the driver's window.
The 'lady' at the wheel was playing completely dumb. First she claimed she had no idea what I wanted, then she claimed she had wondered why I had hooted at her snd thought I had driven into her.
According to her she had her handbrake on and had not felt her roll back :eek: She refused to get out to see whether there was any damage and drove off quickly. What a shameless liar!
i have her registration and am wondering whether I should report her.
Damage to my car is minimal and its old so not worried about that, I wouldn't have minded at all if she had got out and apologised but her brazenness was just a bit too much to take early in the morning.
So, what would you do?

leonidas83

Cheshire Cat wrote: »

Need to have a quick rant, sorry.

Took my sons to school this morning as it was lashing rain. Parked uphill on Threadneedle Rd to let them out.
The car parked uphill from me started rolling back, I hooted repeatedly, but the car rolled into mine. The driver of the car made no attempt to get out and apologise. So after waiting a bit I got out and knockd on the driver's window.
The 'lady' at the wheel was playing completely dumb. First she claimed she had no idea what I wanted, then she claimed she had wondered why I had hooted at her snd thought I had driven into her.
According to her she had her handbrake on and had not felt her roll back :eek: She refused to get out to see whether there was any damage and drove off quickly. What a shameless liar!
i have her registration and am wondering whether I should report her.
Damage to my car is minimal and its old so not worried about that, I wouldn't have minded at all if she had got out and apologised but her brazenness was just a bit too much to take early in the morning.
So, what would you do?

No need to wonder about it, definitely do, people like that are a serious danger on the road

dastardly00

Same as above, head to the Garda station OP.

RichT

^^^ Ditto

There could have been a child walking in-between the two cars.

This woman is oblivious to her surroundings and needs a dose of cop-on, which the guards can dish out.

the keen edge

No one was injured, luckily.
Forget about it and move on with your life, the Guards will do fcuk all about it. They hardly follow up on more serious issues, and in fairness this is hardly a terrible occurrence.

And yes the women was a complete ass.

gctest50

Cheshire Cat wrote: »

She refused to get out to see whether there was any damage and drove off quickly.

Bit bizzare that


Only a few days ago

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/belfast-toddler-dies-after-runaway-vehicle-rolls-down-hill-and-smashes-into-buggy-16255949.html

cowlove

I would report her.

Something similar happened to my husband.

Girl was a complete arse about it. If she had been apologetic he probably would have let it go.

If you had hit her what would have happened?

People like that make my blood boil! One rule for them etc....

Stench Blossoms

I'd report her as well.

thesandeman

I would think it is technically a hit and run as she did not stay at the scene or exchange details etc.
I would report it.

Iwannahurl

If there was no significant damage to your car, and you're not concerned about repair/insurance, then there's no need to go the whole hog with a formal report to the Gardai.

However, if you have the reg and a description of the car (and driver) you do have the option of requesting that AGS contact the driver to notify them of your concerns and perhaps to caution them.

I have done that before after dangerous/careless driving incidents, and I have found AGS to be very helpful in that regard.

It allows for a bit of awareness-raising following minor incidents that would otherwise be a waste of everyone's time.

beardybrewer

I had a similar experience once OP. An older gent was at a red light and slowly rolled in to me. My horn was blaring but he didn't hear it. He got out and started shouting abuse that I had hit him. He made a big production of filing a claim and everything. I called my insurance straight away so they'd have the real story in case he did call (he never did).

In a separate incident, a woman hit my car while I was in the shop and tried to hit and run. Luckily I came out of the shop, witnesses pointed to the car, and I got the license plate reg. Called the guards who tracked her down for me. She didn't get in to any trouble for the hit and run, but was forced to give me her details.

beardybrewer

I had a similar experience once OP. An older gent was at a red light and slowly rolled in to me. My horn was blaring but he didn't hear it. He got out and started shouting abuse that I had hit him. He made a big production of filing a claim and everything. I called my insurance straight away so they'd have the real story in case he did call (he never did).

In a separate incident, a woman hit my car while I was in the shop and tried to hit and run. Luckily I came out of the shop, witnesses pointed to the car, and I got the license plate reg. Called the guards who tracked her down for me. She didn't get in to any trouble for the hit and run, but was forced to give me her details.

happyoutscan

I would definitely pop into the Gardai, she sounds like a danger on the roads. I would also - based entirely on her horrendous attitude - go the whole hog regarding insurance. So what if your car is old and the damage is minor? She deserves to pay for it, simple as. Don't let her get away with this.

SteM

Sounds like the actions of someone driving without insurance - would defo report this.

JillyQ

I had an incident similar to the OP's a few years ago. I reported it to Mill Street Station (Galway). It was a hit and run. Got a day in court out of it, as it turned out the other driver in question had no tax, no insurance and no licence. So OP sometimes it can be worth reporting it. I am supriseed more accidents dont happen on Threadneddle Road at school opening and closing times, the way some ppl park there is just unreal.

liammur

Happened to me before, only I was the culprit, my car was rolling back, driver behind was hooting/flashing, stopped just in time! I did get out and thank him though!

Shakti

gctest50 wrote: »

Bit bizzare that


Only a few days ago

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/belfast-toddler-dies-after-runaway-vehicle-rolls-down-hill-and-smashes-into-buggy-16255949.html

pretty tasteless trying to link or compare the above tragedy to an incident like the op's IMO

from the BT....

Reports at the scene indicated that there was no-one in the car that hit the boy...

Poco90

Report it. Friend of mine got clipped by a car and there was no obvious damage to both cars. The other driver was at fault and admitted responsibility. Friend thought nothing of it until his brother ( a guard ) told him he should always report no matter how insignificant it seemed. A week or so later the other driver tried to claim against him saying my friend was at fault.

NauP

Report it!

padi89

RichT wrote: »

There could have been a child walking in-between the two cars.

There wasn't, so no need to dramatize the incident.

soundbyte

Report, report, report.

Seriously OP, head down to Salthill station. Even if they don't do anything about it, they'll have it logged at the front desk in case this woman decides she has whiplash next week. It's always best to be on the safe side.

Cerulean Chicken

cats.life wrote: »

tell the guards that you smelt drink as she open,d her window. cant stand people like that not wanting to own up for their mistakes. it happend to me at our school ages ago , i had parked away from the school gate when collecting my boy ,so this wan just hoped into her delivery van and reversed out on busey road and hit into me , she ****ed of , i hooted and hooted and even got out of car as she turned the corner at juntion . so i put my thinking cap on as in what do i do now cos she put a big dinge in my passenger door, i went into the school and asked if the wan who left had a fone number cos as she was a delivery person the school wud have the number , so i told them what happend and they quickly it to me, the principal of the school was livid:mad:,he said call the guards, i fond the wan and said ''did you just leave cregmore school, ''she said ya i did'' and so what'' I said did you bump into any thing as you reversed out'' she said i thought i bump,d into the hedge along the side road.''.. i said no ya gimp you put a hole in my passenger door''..told her that ive already called the guards and she went crazy as in saying ''oh no please dont fone them im on my way ,i.l meet ya at the school in half hour when im finished at the next delivery place'' I said no ,im not waiting for you that lenth of time you better come now..we eventually got things sorted after two months, she was called by the guards station in oranmore to come in to the station .she was done for dangerous driving:D:D

That post hurt my brain. Possibly not the best idea to lie to the Guards about what happened.

cats.life

Cerulean Chicken wrote: »

That post hurt my brain. Possibly not the best idea to lie to the Guards about what happened.

why bother replying to my post then if it hurts.:rolleyes:

Cerulean Chicken

cats.life wrote: »

why bother replying to my post then if it hurts.:rolleyes:

...to say that lying to the guards about smelling alcohol is a stupid idea.

bagels

if your car is old then it may fail its nct because of some hidden damage caused by this incident. Report to the Gardai ASAP and ask them to get the insurance details of the offending driver. Have your car properly inspected just in case. And that's just for starters.

bagels

if your car is old then it may fail its nct because of some hidden damage caused by this incident. Report to the Gardai ASAP and ask them to get the insurance details of the offending driver. Have your car properly inspected just in case. And that's just for starters.

dan hibiki

whats with all the double posts?

dan hibiki

whats with all the double posts?

KevR

Shakti wrote: »

pretty tasteless trying to link or compare the above tragedy to an incident like the op's IMO

from the BT....

Reports at the scene indicated that there was no-one in the car that hit the boy...

I don't agree, I think it's relevant. In my opinion if someone can be oblivious enough to be in a car that is rolling back while the car behind if beeping(!!), then that person is more than capable of walking away from their car leaving it on a hill without the handbrake engaged correctly. Then you have a potential accident like the one in Belfast.

OP - as others have already stated, you should definitely report this. Hopefully this person will get a good wake up call.

Shakti

as I said kevR tasteless appropriation of a tragedy to stir the pot,

gambithh

Shakti wrote: »

as I said kevR tasteless appropriation of a tragedy to stir the pot,

i and what appears to be all others believe he made a good point.

gctest50

Much the same nearly happened me years ago :

loaded van with iffy handbrake, started to roll silently towards me

g/f screamed at me, got my attention and i copped it in time

if i was a kid i probably wouldn't have copped what was happening

Cheshire Cat

Thank you all for your input. Will go with Iwannahurl's suggestion.
I definitely won't make anything up (drink). I wouldn't stoop to that level.
Probably a good way to test my one and only New Years resolution: to put up with less crap this year...

JohnCleary

You should have reported it at the scene, before leaving.

Your defence has now diminished a LOT. The lady can now easily, in her defence, state that you bumped into her and decided not to report it as she didn't deem it necessary.

Not only did she leave the scene without reporting, but so did you! And the way it will look is that you infact ran into the back of her; i'm not saying its right or wrong but its what the law would tend to side on.

Call it a lesson learned, report such incidents on scene if it ever happens again.

the keen edge

IMHO the dramatics from most of the responses to this thread are a bit OTT.

Before this post gets attacked, hopefully the OP will report back to this thread letting us know of AGS response.

In the mean time, everybody try to remain calm and vigilant, super vigilant.

cats.life

Cerulean Chicken wrote: »

That post hurt my brain. Possibly not the best idea to lie to the Guards about what happened.

as if she is going to say what we all said in our posts to the guards:rolleyes: she should have called them there and then.

Unrealistic

JohnCleary wrote: »

You should have reported it at the scene, before leaving.

Your defence has now diminished a LOT. The lady can now easily, in her defence, state that you bumped into her and decided not to report it as she didn't deem it necessary.

Not only did she leave the scene without reporting, but so did you! And the way it will look is that you infact ran into the back of her; i'm not saying its right or wrong but its what the law would tend to side on.

Call it a lesson learned, report such incidents on scene if it ever happens again.

Sorry but this is rubbish. There is no obligation in Ireland to report an accident to the Gardai, from the scene or otherwise, unless there have been injuries. There is an obligation to exchange insurance details with the other party and by driving off without doing so, leaving the OP at the scene, the woman in the other car is the only one guilty of this offence.

beardybrewer

Unrealistic wrote: »

Sorry but this is rubbish. There is no obligation in Ireland to report an accident to the Gardai, from the scene or otherwise, unless there have been injuries. There is an obligation to exchange insurance details with the other party and by driving off without doing so, leaving the OP at the scene, the woman in the other car is the only one guilty of this offence.

I think there's a valid point in that the person at fault can claim any damage to your vehicle could have happened anytime after the incident occurred (or was pre-existing) if you don't have a witness. This becomes a your word against their's for the insurance company if you go through with a claim.

JohnCleary

Unrealistic wrote: »

Sorry but this is rubbish. There is no obligation in Ireland to report an accident to the Gardai, from the scene or otherwise, unless there have been injuries. There is an obligation to exchange insurance details with the other party and by driving off without doing so, leaving the OP at the scene, the woman in the other car is the only one guilty of this offence.

Rubbish my hoop. By not calling the Gardai at the time, the defence diminishes (if only slightly) and stories can easily change.

The woman who drove off (according to OP) can easily change her story; whose to say is telling the truth?

Let's be clear here. I am not stating that there is an OBLIGATION to call the Gardai on scene (or otherwise, as you state), I am stating that the OP's defence won't be as strong by reporting it days after the accident, and the OP being the car behind. Stories get fabricated, it's a fact of life. Deal with it!

PS. This thread should be moved to Motors

youtube!

Iwannahurl wrote: »

If there was no significant damage to your car, and you're not concerned about repair/insurance, then there's no need to go the whole hog with a formal report to the Gardai.

However, if you have the reg and a description of the car (and driver) you do have the option of requesting that AGS contact the driver to notify them of your concerns and perhaps to caution them.

I have done that before after dangerous/careless driving incidents, and I have found AGS to be very helpful in that regard.

It allows for a bit of awareness-raising following minor incidents that would otherwise be a waste of everyone's time.

forgive my ignorance but what is AGS?

ANXIOUS

an garda siochana

Dan_Solo

soundbyte wrote: »

Even if they don't do anything about it, they'll have it logged at the front desk

You'd think so, but it's been shown many times that this isn't true.

45mhrc7evo1d3n

soundbyte wrote: »

Even if they don't do anything about it, they'll have it logged at the front desk

Dan_Solo wrote: »

You'd think so, but it's been shown many times that this isn't true.

Unfortunately this has been my experience. I recently went to Mill Street to report an incident with a taxi driver who hit my car and refused to give me his insurance details before driving off. I was very upset at the time as he had abused me verbally and I could really have done without a visit to the Garda station. Turns out it was a complete waste of time because after not hearing anything back for a week I rang Mill Street only to be told there was no record of the incident in the log book

Wompa1

Brenden Sweet Ghetto wrote: »

Unfortunately this has been my experience. I recently went to Mill Street to report an incident with a taxi driver who hit my car and refused to give me his insurance details before driving off. I was very upset at the time as he had abused me verbally and I could really have done without a visit to the Garda station. Turns out it was a complete waste of time because after not hearing anything back for a week I rang Mill Street only to be told there was no record of the incident in the log book

Similar happened to my sister when her car got broken into in broad daylight in Mervue once upon a time. No follow up, no record it had even happened.

2rkehij30qtza5

Wompa1 wrote: »

Similar happened to my sister when her car got broken into in broad daylight in Mervue once upon a time. No follow up, no record it had even happened.

Similar thing happened to me before too. No follow-up from Gardaí, no records, nothing. All bizzare.

Dan_Solo

Well there you go OP. If they're ignoring thefts and car crashes they're not going to do a lot about a near miss are they.

the keen edge

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Well there you go OP. If they're ignoring thefts and car crashes they're not going to do a lot about a near miss are they.

+1 to this.

It would be ridiculous reporting such a minor event. Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Dan_Solo

the keen edge wrote: »

+1 to this.

It would be ridiculous reporting such a minor event. Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill.

That's not what I said.
In any country with a functional police service it should be reported as dangerous driving. Here there is simply no point, regardless of the seriousness.
Don't pretend I said what you are claiming.

the keen edge

Dan_Solo wrote: »

That's not what I said.
In any country with a functional police service it should be reported as dangerous driving. Here there is simply no point, regardless of the seriousness.
Don't pretend I said what you are claiming.

First off I wasn't pretending that you said anything.
If you make a diffuse single sentence post it isn't unreasonable for me to make a assumption about that post.
Instead of getting your knickers in a twist; maybe post with a little more clarity next time.

Secondly, this wasn't a case dangerous driving.
I'm sure if the OP has reported it to AGS they will take the same opinion.

Dan_Solo

the keen edge wrote: »

First off I wasn't pretending that you said anything.
If you make a diffuse single sentence post it isn't unreasonable for me to make a assumption about that post.

So you are now claiming my post was ambiguous, yet you felt qualified to decide what I meant and then agree with that?
How does that work?
Do you always recommend posts which you then freely admit you didn't understand in the first place?

the keen edge wrote: »

Instead of getting your knickers in a twist; maybe post with a little more clarity next time.

You could just admit that you were too lazy to read the rest of the thread, where it was pretty obvious nobody was thinking the Gardai not even recording crimes was a good thing. That's why you are now so clueless about the context of my post. If you can, please show us where anybody has said the Gardai are too busy too be dealing with "trivial" cases like this.
You won't.
You might have a stab at some other nonsense but you still won't, but please do because entertainment is always welcome.

the keen edge wrote: »

Secondly, this wasn't a case dangerous driving.
I'm sure if the OP has reported it to AGS they will take the same opinion.

Letting off your handbrake on a hill with a car right behind you isn't dangerous driving?
Oh wait, this is all becoming clear now... you're an Irish traffic cop, right?:D

zarquon

the keen edge wrote: »

Secondly, this wasn't a case dangerous driving.
I'm sure if the OP has reported it to AGS they will take the same opinion.

I have to strongly disagree with this also. How does letting your car roll down a hill backwards into another car and then fleeing the scene not constitute dangerous driving especially considering this happened outside a school where a child or parent could potentially have been in the path of the offending car.