Likely False Rumours of Gardai Deployed in Belfast

Fukuyama

http://www.belfastdaily.co.uk/2013/01/06/revealed-psni-hire-200-garda-officers-to-put-down-loyalist-rebellion/

Rumours flying around Twitter that the Garda Public Order Unit is being sent up to Belfast.

I think it's totally untrue but Loyalists seem to be reacting to the news.

AFAIK it'd need to be approved by the EU. Plus the UK has plenty of police over the water.

Thoughts?

DrumSteve

The smell of bull**** off that.

Fukuyama

DrumSteve wrote: »

The smell of bull**** off that.

I suspect they're trying to fire up Loyalists ahead of their day trip to Dublin next week.

VinLieger

DrumSteve wrote: »

The smell of bull**** off that.

Indeed BUT if true they have nobody to blame but themselves

DrumSteve

Dean0088 wrote: »

I suspect they're trying to fire up Loyalists ahead of their day trip to Dublin next week.

Pretty much, even the picture used is designed to provoke (even if it is the PSNI).

partyatmygaff

That makes the opposite of sense if it's true (which it probably isn't).

Why would they get the police force of a republican state to try and stop the Loyalists from rioting? It's almost like an incitement to keep on rioting.

starviewadams

Complete and utter bullshít!!

Hande hoche!

Some very interesting comments on that article.

admiralofthefleet

some of the comments are hilarious

wendell borton

Belfast Daily can reveal that the deployment of Irish police......

Yes, the Police service of Northern Ireland.

del88

Why why why..would make not an once of sense if true..doubt if the fruit cakes over in conspiracy theories could come up with a good reason for this one...

orestes

Ok, please, let's think about this, for just one second. Please, turn off the tv, close the tab on your browser that has whatever stupid page you are looking at, take a deep breath, and engage the part of your brain that engages in critical thinking.

Are Irish police officers being deployed to Belfast, in order to stop riots by Loyalists.

Thought about it? For even just one second?

Yeah, sounds pretty fukking stupid now, doesn't it?

Fukuyama

I think it's fairly obvious it's fake. From what I can tell the images used are of the ERU.

What I'm concerned about it how this raises tensions.

I have a feeling Dublin is going to get torn to shreds like last time Wilie came down.

I guess the motivation for Loyalists in spreading the rumour is to keep the fire lit.

Fukuyama

orestes wrote: »

Ok, please, let's think about this, for just one second. Please, turn off the tv, close the tab on your browser that has whatever stupid page you are looking at, take a deep breath, and engage the part of your brain that engages in critical thinking.

Are Irish police officers being deployed to Belfast, in order to stop riots by Loyalists.

Thought about it? For even just one second?

Yeah, sounds pretty fukking stupid now, doesn't it?

Is there really a need for that?

Everyone here agrees it's a false rumour. Steady on.

ArtyM

No time to waste verifying facts.
We need to get outraged immediately and we need to mindlessly and violently act on that outrage.
Spread the word

Cavehill Red

Not true. It's a squadron of Protestant virgin-raping Swiss Guards sent directly from the Vatican by the Pope himself.

wicklowwonder

What day are they due down in Dublin and are they marching in protest or what have they planned?

overshoot

ah so there are more dailys out there than donegal daily, i see though they follow the same easy format (& web design)
1-jim from up the road "exclusively revealed" something... no matter what was said its a source worth publishing
2-write the most sensationalist (often grammatically incorrect) story possible
3-claim ridiculous website views for advertising purposes

in otherwords is this the winning formula to;
bull****
??
??
profit!

blahfckingblah

a senior security source... a nameless and faceless made up "source" for a made up article which will only serve to validate what those idiots are doing in their minds

orestes

Dean0088 wrote: »

Is there really a need for that?

Everyone here agrees it's a false rumour. Steady on.

Yes, yes there was a need for it. The fact that crap like this even exists is a step backwards for a peace that was decades in the making, and people giving it even a moment of consideration as anything other than pure bloody stupidity is helping to fan the flames of a ridiculous shit-storm.

ted1

I suspect that there may be some truth in the Gardai going up North, but solely for intelligence gathering and to formulate a plan for next weeks march on Dublin. This is common place for any international sports event or gathering where trouble may take place. In fact members of Scotland Yard on particular travel abroad to assist and advice foreign police on how to handle the British.

Conrach

It is loyalist instigated propaganda! There is very, very little support for these flag protests outside of the usual city enclaves.
One journalist, during the week, estimated that there was only 500 people in the whole of the North supporting these protests. Peaceful or otherwise.
3 weeks ago, an "official" fleg protest was organised for my town. I went down for a nosey (as you do) and there were 4 young lads wrapped in Union Jacks. 4 in a town with a population of 15,000

They are desperately trying to instill fear and reaction within the protestant community.
Another story that is being spread is that the Royal Victoria Hospital and Queens University are going to be renamed.

It is desperation at its best!!
Also from twitter--"PSNI state categorically no officers from English Welsh or Scottish Forces or Garda helping police protests"

drunkmonkey

ted1 wrote: »

members of Scotland Yard on particular travel abroad to assist and advice foreign police on how to handle the British.

How do they intend to handle them?

Pilotdude5

When I see Gardai referred to as "Cops" I stop reading

Jayop

What a joke. Bloody idiots lapping it up.

starviewadams

They were mentioning having the protest in Dublin on the 12th I think.

Sure the local gurriers are busy making their shopping list of things they want to loot from Foot Locker and the like if the Gardai don't manage to contain things again.

harry Bailey esq

of course false. if an on duty Garda even steps across the border he or she is likely to be arrested and the same if the psni step in the republic.they'd share intelligence alright,that would be about it.Seriously all this rioting is worldwide news,would anybody think that the British government Will go onto the world stage and admit 'we had to call in the Irish to sort it' i don't think so

markesmith

Online advertising revenue > responsible journalism

Same model as the Sindo

Pompey Magnus

After 43 years of meticulous planning the Irish Government is pleased to announce that Exercise Armageddon is finally ready for execution.

In one last minute change, the targets to be protected will no longer be the Nationalist Community of Northern Ireland but rather motor vehicles and wheelie bins, as these seem to be bearing the brunt of the current unrest.

ted1

drunkmonkey wrote: »

How do they intend to handle them?

They learn what provoke them , how far they would go, who the troubles makers are . Will they fight once themselves?

Lyaiera

harry Bailey esq wrote: »

of course false. if an on duty Garda even steps across the border he or she is likely to be arrested and the same if the psni step in the republic.

That's completely untrue. There are constantly on-duty Garda and PSNI on both sides of the border. They're swapping information and learning from each other constantly. It's what good police forces do when the only thing separating two countries is a sign on the side of the road. However it's like saying America has invaded us because they have officials in the embassy.

Border-Rat

Over the past few years I've heard an increasing amount of southern accents in the PSNI. I always took these to be former members of the Gardai. What else would they be.

harry Bailey esq

if the guards chase a car and the car crosses into the north they can no longer pursue.intelligence yes,visible policing big no.

Jimoslimos

It's rabble rousing by the press, probably an attempt to sell more papers but if they're not careful they risk dragging the peace process back another 10 years (one would hope that's not what's going on)

Where To

Border-Rat wrote: »

Over the past few years I've heard an increasing amount of southern accents in the PSNI. I always took these to be former members of the Gardai. What else would they be.

Ordinary people. I know a few people in yhe PSNI from this side of the border. None of them were Gardai.

starviewadams

Border-Rat wrote: »

Over the past few years I've heard an increasing amount of southern accents in the PSNI. I always took these to be former members of the Gardai. What else would they be.

I know a good few lads who joined up with the PSNI after getting fed up waiting around for the Gardai to recruit again.

donegal_road

I live very close to what was known as a 'concession road'. This meant that during the troubles, police from both sides of the border could use this road without worrying about the question of incursion

harry Bailey esq

I've never seen police of any kind on the concession road,soldiers I've seen but never police.

kfk

harry Bailey esq wrote: »

if the guards chase a car and the car crosses into the north they can no longer pursue.intelligence yes,visible policing big no.

AFAIK On duty Gardai often travel to the UK to escort wanted people back to Ireland! I dont think they would be in uniform though, so would have no visible presence.

justshane

kfk wrote: »

AFAIK On duty Gardai often travel to the UK to escort wanted people back to Ireland! I dont think they would be in uniform though, so would have no visible presence.

Or authority.

kfk

justshane wrote: »

Or authority.

They would have authority to be there on duty and authority to detain the person being escorted! I imagine that it will only be a matter of time before cross border rules are relaxed for the Gardai and the PSNI.

Death and Taxes

Border-Rat wrote: »

Over the past few years I've heard an increasing amount of southern accents in the PSNI. I always took these to be former members of the Gardai. What else would they be.

New recruits (never having been in the Gardai) to the PSNI.
With the recruitment embargo here, why not!

humbert

Funny that someone should mention the Donegal Daily
http://www.whois.com/whois/belfastdaily.co.uk