Aintree Grand National 2013

Nulty

I've backed T43 but not going mad. The Strong Gale influence in the stamina hasn't been very successful despite a lot of attempts.

Sunnyhillboy has to come into calculations. He has been around the course and beaten a whisker last year when coming back with a cut on his leg. 25/1 will look very attractive come later in the year.

Join Together should probably be favourite for this I think. I saw a post about his pedigree - he's basically purposely bred for the race. His run in the Becher shows he can jump the fences and by the way he finished so well there. Only concern is his age but 8yo have won it '73, '83, '92, '02.

Seabass is probably still well treated only getting a rise of 5lbs. No doubt he'll get a around 3 Aintree phantom pounds so will be closer to 160. did he not get home or did he have a long season last year?

Alfie Sherrin is an interesting one but not one I'd rely on. I need to look closer at his recent races though. I'd say McCoy will ride Sunnyhillboy though.

Slattsy

I completely agree.

My two against the field right now are two that i backed last year;
Sunnyhillboy - would have won with better jockey
Seabass - definite improvement to come.

tipster

on his own for me backed him at 20s 14s now was going better than anything when coming down last year

Nulty

Anyone think Carruthers might be lined up for this with his run over hurdles in the Cleeve or is it purely to get a an eye on the World Hurdle?

Nulty

Actually just saw the feature on Marcus Bradstock on the Morning Line there. No hint of the National and I don't think the owners are interested anyway.

tonic wine

All of the above plus Prince de beauchene, although he won't be as well handicapped this year after being raised 12lb for winning the bobbyjo chase.

Nulty

Entries are out now. Haven't seen them yet but I did read that Pandorama is getting an entry.

Johner

Some quality horses entered.

Imperial Commander, Tidal Bay, Quito De La Roque, Alberta's Run and Quel Espirit.

Johner

Entries,

Come on Treacle

Form Horse Age Owner Trainer

P3-1120 ACROSS THE BAY (IRE) 9 Scotch Piper Syndicate Donald McCain
P12/123- ALBERTAS RUN (IRE) 12 Trevor Hemmings Jonjo O'Neill
0513-30 ALFIE SHERRIN 10 J P McManus Jonjo O'Neill
044001- ALWAYS WAINING (IRE) 12 Mr & Mrs Peter James Douglas Peter Bowen
3-614U4 ANY CURRENCY (IRE) 10 Cash Is King Martin Keighley
2-U0P45 AURORAS ENCORE (IRE) 11 D Pryde, J Beaumont & D P van der Hoeven Sue Smith
P/5000/P- BACKSTAGE (FR) 11 MPR & Capranny Syndicate Gordon Elliott IRE
121/46-P BALLABRIGGS (IRE) 12 Trevor Hemmings Donald McCain
P0F1-12 BALTHAZAR KING (IRE) 9 The Brushmakers Philip Hobbs
2F-63PP BECAUSEICOULDNTSEE (IRE) 10 Noel Glynn Noel Glynn IRE
1/U121/5- BESHABAR (IRE) 11 Middleham Park Racing X & Ann Burrows Tim Vaughan
440/-U31 BIG FELLA THANKS 11 Crossed Fingers Partnership Tom George
051130 BOB LINGO (IRE) 11 J P McManus Tom Mullins IRE
P-06F22 BOSTONS ANGEL (IRE) 9 Elder Scouller Jessica Harrington IRE
5110-P4 CALGARY BAY (IRE) 10 Camilla Radford Mick Channon
234-F21 CALL THE POLICE (IRE) 10 DD Racing Syndicate Willie Mullins IRE
P//1334-2 CAPPA BLEU (IRE) 11 William & Angela Rucker Evan Williams
2B-0U63 CHICAGO GREY (IRE) 10 John Earls Gordon Elliott IRE
40//2161- CLOUDY LANE 13 Trevor Hemmings Donald McCain
413-521 COLBERT STATION (IRE) 9 J P McManus Ted Walsh IRE
1P-4PP0 CROSS APPEAL (IRE) 7 John Corr Noel Meade IRE
120-25F FABALU (IRE) 11 Tim Leslie Donald McCain
64-2P15 FORPADYDEPLASTERER (IRE) 11 Goat Racing Syndicate Thomas Cooper IRE
21B-4FP FRISCO DEPOT 9 Waley-Cohen, Burke, Broughton, Broughton Charlie Longsdon
0/44-060 GULLIBLE GORDON (IRE) 10 Yeh Man Partnership Peter Bowen
112P-P0 HARRY THE VIKING 8 Sir Alex Ferguson, Ged Mason, R Wood & P Done Paul Nicholls
51U/1P/-2 IMPERIAL COMMANDER (IRE) 12 Our Friends in the North Nigel Twiston-Davies
30/1122/- JESSIES DREAM (IRE) 10 David Johnson Gordon Elliott IRE
11P3-02 JOIN TOGETHER (IRE) 8 Ian Fogg & Paul Barber Paul Nicholls
20-3523 JONCOL (IRE) 10 Kay Browne Paul Nolan IRE
4-F0211 KATENKO (FR) 7 A Brooks Venetia Williams
01236-1 LAMBRO (IRE) 8 Byerley Thoroughbred Racing Willie Mullins IRE
10511-P LION NA BEARNAI (IRE) 11 The Lock Syndicate Tom Gibney IRE
6P00-1F LITTLE JOSH (IRE) 11 Tony Bloom Nigel Twiston-Davies
011611 LOST GLORY (NZ) 8 J P McManus Jonjo O'Neill
PP-5220 MAGNANIMITY (IRE) 9 Gigginstown House Stud Dessie Hughes IRE
4P2P-26 MAJOR MALARKEY (IRE) 10 Baker, Dodd & Cooke Nigel Twiston-Davies
030U-06 MATUHI 10 Willsford Racing Incorporated David Pipe
310-3P4 MIDNIGHT CHASE 11 Lady Clarke Neil Mulholland
04-1311 MISTER HYDE (IRE) 8 Bensaranat Club & W McLuskey Jonjo O'Neill
1P-2215 MORTIMERS CROSS 12 John Needham John Needham
0-23602 MR MOONSHINE (IRE) 9 Sue Smith Sue Smith
1133FP MUMBLES HEAD (IRE) 12 Karen Bowen Peter Bowen
1F-3F60 NINETIETH MINUTE (IRE) 10 Dermot Cox Tom Taaffe IRE
33F425 ODYSSEAS (FR) 10 Mrs Jean Porzier Yann Porzier FR
4P1/B1F- ON HIS OWN (IRE) 9 Andrea & Graham Wylie Willie Mullins IRE
F5U-540 ORGANISEDCONFUSION (IRE) 8 Grace Dunlop Arthur Moore IRE
632/4-4U OSCAR TIME (IRE) 12 Robert Waley-Cohen/Sir Martin & Simon Broughton Martin Lynch IRE
05r316 OUTLAW PETE (IRE) 9 J P McManus John Halley IRE
11/P10/-0 PANDORAMA (IRE) 10 R J Bagnall Noel Meade IRE
30/F2PP- PEARLYSTEPS 10 The Glazeley Partnership Henry Daly
0-00016 PENTIFFIC (NZ) 10 P Sinn, P Lawrence, L Sutcliffe, M Smith Venetia Williams
5/230-53 PLANET OF SOUND 11 Charles Lloyd-Baker Philip Hobbs
(0)6U1/-50 POKER DE SIVOLA (FR) 10 David Johnson Ferdy Murphy
351/51-1 PRINCE DE BEAUCHENE (FR) 10 Andrea & Graham Wylie Willie Mullins IRE
1211-5F PROBLEMA TIC (FR) 7 Jo Tracey David Pipe
F1113-0 QUEL ESPRIT (FR) 9 Red Barn Syndicate Willie Mullins IRE
131P/PP- QUINZ (FR) 9 Andrew Cohen Philip Hobbs
4010F-6 QUISCOVER FONTAINE (FR) 9 J P McManus Willie Mullins IRE
13-3361 QUITO DE LA ROQUE (FR) 9 Gigginstown House Stud Colm Murphy IRE
053B0-6 RARE BOB (IRE) 11 D A Syndicate Dessie Hughes IRE
000-1U3 ROBERTO GOLDBACK (IRE) 11 Simon Munir Nicky Henderson
511112 ROI DU MEE (FR) 8 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
U1F102 ROMANESCO (FR) 8 Annie Flora Joan Bowles Gordon Elliott IRE
4U01-F4 SAINT ARE (FR) 7 David Fox Tim Vaughan
1//11113- SEABASS (IRE) 10 Gunners Syndicate Ted Walsh IRE
0-12136 SHAKERVILZ (FR) 10 Wicklow Bloodstock Limited Willie Mullins IRE
1/21B-00 SOLL 8 Derrick Mossop Jo Hughes
1P/1/401- SUMMERY JUSTICE (IRE) 9 Mrs H Brown Venetia Williams
P012-5P SUNNYHILLBOY (IRE) 10 J P McManus Jonjo O'Neill
00P-P14 SWING BILL (FR) 12 David Johnson David Pipe
1P1142 TARQUINIUS (FR) 10 Mrs M Furlong Gordon Elliott IRE
50-6440 TARTAK (FR) 10 Power Panels Electrical Systems Ltd Tim Vaughan
0/015U-6 TATENEN (FR) 9 The Stewart Family Richard Rowe
P11-062 TEAFORTHREE (IRE) 9 T437 Rebecca Curtis
5/5/4-14P THE PACKAGE 10 David Johnson David Pipe
04-311P THE RAINBOW HUNTER 9 May We Never Be Found Out Partnership Kim Bailey
541-121 TIDAL BAY (IRE) 12 Andrea & Graham Wylie Paul Nicholls
1-12141 TOFINO BAY (IRE) 10 Gigginstown House Stud Dessie Hughes IRE
51423F- TREACLE (IRE) 12 Bjorn Nielsen Tom Taaffe IRE
FP-023P VIKING BLOND (FR) 8 Caroline Mould Nigel Twiston-Davies
13PF-4P WEIRD AL (IRE) 10 Brannon Dick Holden Donald McCain
4P/33F0- WHAT A FRIEND 10 Ged Mason & Sir Alex Ferguson Paul Nicholls
11F2-11 WYCK HILL (IRE) 9 SAB Partnership David Bridgwater

shy-tall-knight

tonic wine wrote: »

All of the above plus Prince de beauchene, although he won't be as well handicapped this year after being raised 12lb for winning the bobbyjo chase.

He has a real bit of class about him though so unless the British handicapper takes draconian action with his weight then he'd still look to be the right sort for the national.
I was very taken by his hurdles win at Limerick. Drifted like a barge on course but won cosily from a useful type in venture capital over a trip shorter than ideal. His next run(prob the bobbyjo) will tell a story

Johner

Betting,

16/1 On His Own, Prince De Beauchene;
20/1 Colbert Station, Join Together, Katenko, Seabass, Sunnyhillboy, Tidal Bay;
25/1 Beshabar, Cappa Bleu, Harry The Viking, Imperial Commander, Roberto Goldback, Roi Du Mee, Teaforthree, The Package, What A Friend;
33/1 Across The Bay, Albertas Run, Alfie Sherrin, Ballabriggs, Balthazar King, Big Fella Thanks, Bostons Angel, Frisco Depot, Lambro, Lion Na Bearnai, Organisedconfusion, Oscar Time, Outlaw Pete, Romanesco, Saint Are, Tofino Bay, Weird Al, Wyck Hill;
40/1 Call The Police, Jessies Dream, Little Josh, Lost Glory, Magnanimity, Mister Hyde, Planet Of Sound, Quel Esprit, Quiscover Fontaine, Quito De La Roque, Tarquinius;
50/1 Always Waining, Any Currency, Auroras Encore, Becauseicouldntsee, Bob Lingo, Chicago Grey, Cross Appeal, Forpadydeplasterer, Joncol, Mr Moonshine, Ninetieth Minute, Pandorama, Problema Tic, Quinz, Rare Bob, Shakervilz, Summery Justice, Swing Bill, Tartak, The Rainbow Hunter, Treacle;
66/1 Backstage, Calgary Bay, Cloudy Lane, Midnight Chase, Odysseas, Pearlysteps, Pentiffic, Poker De Sivola, Soll, Viking Blond;
100/1 Fabalu, Gullible Gordon, Major Malarkey, Matuhi, Mortimers Cross, Mumbles Head, Tatenen

Weights are out Tuesday February 12th.

Nulty

Interesting (not betting particularly):

1/U121/5- BESHABAR (IRE) 11 Middleham Park Racing X & Ann Burrows Tim Vaughan
P-06F22 BOSTONS ANGEL (IRE) 9 Elder Scouller Jessica Harrington IRE
234-F21 CALL THE POLICE (IRE) 10 DD Racing Syndicate Willie Mullins IRE
413-521 COLBERT STATION (IRE) 9 J P McManus Ted Walsh IRE
64-2P15 FORPADYDEPLASTERER (IRE) 11 Goat Racing Syndicate Thomas Cooper IRE

51U/1P/-2 IMPERIAL COMMANDER (IRE) 12 Our Friends in the North Nigel Twiston-Davies
30/1122/- JESSIES DREAM (IRE) 10 David Johnson Gordon Elliott IRE
11P3-02 JOIN TOGETHER (IRE) 8 Ian Fogg & Paul Barber Paul Nicholls
20-3523 JONCOL (IRE) 10 Kay Browne Paul Nolan IRE
4-F0211 KATENKO (FR) 7 A Brooks Venetia Williams

PP-5220 MAGNANIMITY (IRE) 9 Gigginstown House Stud Dessie Hughes IRE
1F-3F60 NINETIETH MINUTE (IRE) 10 Dermot Cox Tom Taaffe IRE
05r316 OUTLAW PETE (IRE) 9 J P McManus John Halley IRE
11/P10/-0 PANDORAMA (IRE) 10 R J Bagnall Noel Meade IRE
(0)6U1/-50 POKER DE SIVOLA (FR) 10 David Johnson Ferdy Murphy

13-3361 QUITO DE LA ROQUE (FR) 9 Gigginstown House Stud Colm Murphy IRE
511112 ROI DU MEE (FR) 8 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
P11-062 TEAFORTHREE (IRE) 9 T437 Rebecca Curtis
541-121 TIDAL BAY (IRE) 12 Andrea & Graham Wylie Paul Nicholls
1-12141 TOFINO BAY (IRE) 10 Gigginstown House Stud Dessie Hughes IRE

11F2-11 WYCK HILL (IRE) 9 SAB Partnership David Bridgwater

finbarrk

The Walshs were happy with Seabass today seemingly.

Colonel Sanders

finbarrk wrote: »

The Walshs were happy with Seabass today seemingly.

Looked a decent trial

Ruby seemed in no hurry to give him a hard race but when Russell looked cooked on Make Your Mark he bustled him up to take a staying on 2nd without getting beat up.

I'm assuming his mark will be a bit higher than last year however.

I'm assuming Ruby would have the option but will ride one of the Mullins/Wylie horses so does Katie Walsh ride again?

finbarrk

Surely Katie will be on board again.

RICHIE26188

Picking the national winner so far out is nigh on impossible, the weather will be a major factor. Tend to do a few E/W anti post for value

cson

Going over this year; anyone got any tips about the track/Liverpool that particular weekend?

RICHIE26188

I live in liverpool so if you have any questions just DM me and ill be happy to help you out with them

Nulty

Are the weights being announced today?

x PyRo

Out now. :-)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2013/feb/12/grand-national-weights-lunch-2013

TIDAL BAY 12-11-10; ALBERTAS RUN 12-11-08; IMPERIAL COMMANDER; QUITO DE LA ROQUE 9-11-05; WHAT A FRIEND 10-11-05; KATENKO 7-11-04; WEIRD AL 10-11-04; PRINCE DE BEAUCHENE 10-11-03; QUEL ESPRIT 9-11-03; BIG FELLA THANKS 11-11-02; ROBERTO GOLDBACK 11-11-02; SEABASS 10-11-02; CALGARY BAY 10-11-01; CALL THE POLICE 10-11-01; PANDORAMA 10-11-01; ROI DU MEE 8-11-01; BALLABRIGGS 12-11-00; MIDNIGHT CHASE 11-11-00; SUNNYHILLBOY 10-11-00

TEAFORTHREE 9-10-13; ACROSS THE BAY; JOIN TOGETHER 8-10-12; PLANET OF SOUND 11-10-12; BOB LINGO 11-10-11; COLBERT STATION 9-10-11; LITTLE JOSH 11-10-11; TOFINO BAY 10-10-11; FORPADYDEPLASTERER 11-10-10; ON HIS OWN 9-10-10; JONCOL 10-10-09; LION NA BEARNAI 11-10-09; BALTHAZAR KING 9-10-08; THE PACKAGE 10-10-08; BOSTONS ANGEL 9-10-07; CAPPA BLEU 11-10-07; OSCAR TIME 12-10-07

ALWAYS WAINING 12-10-06; LAMBRO 8-10-06; QUINZ 9-10-06; TATENEN 9-10-06; BESHABAR 11-10-05; JESSIES DREAM 10-10-05; TREACLE 12-10-05; LOST GLORY 8-10-04; PROBLEMA TIC 7-10-04; SAINT ARE 7-10-04; SWING BILL 12-10-04; WYCK HILL 9-10-04; CHICAGO GREY 10-10-03; MAGNANIMITY 9-10-03; QUISCOVER FONTAINE 9-10-03; BECAUSEICOULDNTSEE 10-10-02; FRISCO DEPOT 9-10-02; HARRY THE VIKING 8-10-02; RARE BOB 11-10-02; THE RAINBOW HUNTER 9-10-02

MR MOONSHINE 9-10-01; MUMBLES HEAD 12-10-00; PEARLYSTEPS 10-10-00; AURORAS ENCORE 11-9-13; NINETIETH MINUTE 10-9-13; ALFIE SHERRIN 10-9-12; TARQUINIUS 10-9-12; MATUHI 10-9-11; MISTER HYDE 8-9-11; ANY CURRENCY 10-9-10; CROSS APPEAL 7-9-10; TARTAK 10-9-10; MAJOR MALARKEY 10-9-09; POKER DE SIVOLA 10-9-09; SUMMERY JUSTICE; BACKSTAGE 11-9-08; SOLL 8-9-08; ROMANESCO; SHAKERVILZ 10-9-07; VIKING BLOND 8-9-07; CLOUDY LANE 13-9-06; OUTLAW PETE 9-9-06; FABALU 11-9-05; PENTIFFIC 10-9-04; ODYSSEAS 10-9-03; GULLIBLE GORDON 10-9-02; MORTIMERS CROSS 12-9-02

longshotvalue

What a friend at 180 with betfair, looks great value. Stays all day, hasnt run this year possibly ready for it... hope he is running...

Johner

10 5 for Treacle, should defnitely get in off that.

I think somewhere around 10 stone will get in again this year.

sting60

Tidal Bay rated 162 for the National yet is on a current mark of 171.Based on those figures he is thrown in off 9 lbs less than he should have.I would love to hear why Phil Smith gave Tidal Bay a rating of 162.The horse I like is Wyke Hill 33/1 will stay and gound is not an issue.Another horse to watch if he runs is The Rainbow Hunter 66/1.He pulled up last time out[scoped bad] but his previous run was excellent where he gave Loc Ba 13lb and beat him ,Loc Ba won his next race in a canter.The Rainbow Hunter is a horse to watch in the comming weeks to see if he really should line up in the National.

Colonel Sanders

Tidal Bay gets in 9lbs "light"

While I know it's to encourage class horses to run & nor have horses running out if the handicap its a bit much. Is be properly pissed off if I owned a 155 rated chaser who actually had to run off 155

Colonel Sanders

Colonel Sanders wrote: »

Tidal Bay gets in 9lbs "light"

While I know it's to encourage class horses to run & nor have horses running out if the handicap its a bit much. Is be properly pissed off if I owned a 155 rated chaser who actually had to run off 155

Ted Walsh already complaining, rightly in my view

UrbanSea

Colonel Sanders wrote: »

Ted Walsh already complaining, rightly in my view

.
Let him complain. Wasn't complaining when Colbert Station had about a stone in hand set up for the gamble over Christmas

Nulty

40th horse on the list is carrying 10-6. There will be plenty coming out above that in the next few weeks.

Slattsy

Those weights are a disgrace.
Ted Walsh has every right to complain.

And before you go off on one Urban what a horse has in hand (unofficially) has no credence here.
Just look at Tidal Bays rating and weights compared to Seabass and tell me how thats fair.

UrbanSea

Never said it was. Whatever about attracting good horses but it just takes away from the fact that it's a handicap.


Soll catches the eye. Lol Ladbrokes really love to stand out. They go 8/1 the field, the lowest elsewhere is 12/1 fav

Slattsy

I backed Soll the last day. Never put into the race.

UrbanSea

200/1 with Sporting Bet. Could be worse each way shouts

pugw

cson wrote: »

Going over this year; anyone got any tips about the track/Liverpool that particular weekend?

Its a great spot, Definately go racing ladies day :eek: need i say more. Buy your tickets online soon enough because they will sell out soon and touts will fleace you! Also try and avoid havng to collect them over there as you have to go a bit out of the qay to que to collect them. Tatts tickets are the job and if you keep an eye on security you might get to get into one of the more fancy enclosures! I hope you like fosters because all they have is that and bitter. The place is manic so get there early! Enjoy!

Overthelast

The Wylie's own the front 3 in the betting. 9/2 for them to have the winner. Value?

nucker

Can't wait, just hope there isn't any more horses dying during the race

Colonel Sanders

Overthelast wrote: »

The Wylie's own the front 3 in the betting. 9/2 for them to have the winner. Value?

4.84 using Betfair back prices (on which you'd have to pay commission)

4.756 using best bookmaker prices so looks good if you fancy the 3 coupled

Slattsy

Overthelast wrote: »

The Wylie's own the front 3 in the betting. 9/2 for them to have the winner. Value?

Where ?

Overthelast

Just watching ATR, John jewalie? Whatever his name is. Stan James I think

droidman123

Wyck hill @ 20-1 for me.nice weight,talented horse, always looked he would stay.

Overthelast

Slattsy wrote: »

Where ?

He (the fella from Stan James) quoted a few other specials as well - 10/1 lady winning jockey etc but it was the 9/2 that caught my attention.

longshotvalue

I can’t resist a super long shot at a great price, and What a Friend ticks all those boxes in the National. He loves good ground, looks like he will stay forever, and judging by Paul Nichols today is being aimed at the race. 190/1 on Betfair at the moment is defiantly value. He has proven top class in the last few years with a couple of placed efforts in the Golf Cup and a few other notable top class runs. He hasn’t run this year yet but that is more than likely because he likes good ground.


1 Point win 190 Betfair..

droidman123

aidankkk wrote: »

I can’t resist a super long shot at a great price, and What a Friend ticks all those boxes in the National. He loves good ground, looks like he will stay forever, and judging by Paul Nichols today is being aimed at the race. 190/1 on Betfair at the moment is defiantly value. He has proven top class in the last few years with a couple of placed efforts in the Golf Cup and a few other notable top class runs. He hasn’t run this year yet but that is more than likely because he likes good ground.


1 Point win 190 Betfair..

Seems to have a similar profile to neptune collognes.

prettyboy81

What a Friend 99/1 now with Betfair!

UrbanSea

prettyboy81 wrote: »

What a Friend 99/1 now with Betfair!

There was only 190 then 99 probably

ft9

Tidal Bay is out. He suffered a small fracture.

premierstone

Makes Phil Smith look an even bigger clown now for the way he tried to frame the weights just to get him to run :mad:

RichieLawlor

I wonder is this part of the reason he missed the Pillar? Has Nicholls been leading everyone on

Colonel Sanders

Tidal Bay is 12 so is that career ending?

Had a quick scan of the entries last night. The 3 I put on a very rough short list were Jessie's Dream, Midnight Chase & Magnanimity

However the weights will rise now, at least 5lbs IMO as I don't think Albertas Run or Imperial Commander will run & Quito De La Roque might not run shouldering top weight. That makes me less enthusiastic about Midnight Chase & Magnanimity hasn't won over 3m apart from a point to point

RichieLawlor

Colonel Sanders wrote: »

Tidal Bay is 12 so is that career ending?

Had a quick scan of the entries last night. The 3 I put on a very rough short list were Jessie's Dream, Midnight Chase & Magnanimity

However the weights will rise now, at least 5lbs IMO as I don't think Albertas Run or Imperial Commander will run & Quito De La Roque might not run shouldering top weight. That makes me less enthusiastic about Midnight Chase & Magnanimity hasn't won over 3m apart from a point to point

IC will defo run. NTD has basically confirmed it as long as the horse can breathe he will run him.

Colonel Sanders

Lay side is blank on Betfair for anyone who backed T43 also....

Colonel Sanders

Colonel Sanders wrote: »

Lay side is blank on Betfair for anyone who backed T43 also....

Actually ignore this, Betfair surely suspended on the Tidal Bay news so I'd say the market is just sorting out after it reopened

Nulty

Bad result yesterday for T43. Makes the price taken worthless. They say the ground was the problem, must have been tacky heavy. He's shown he's very effective on better ground by winning at Cheltenham last year but I'm not sure I want to go in again. The Strong Gale thing puts me off.

Cappa Bleu, ironically, was cut after performing well over 3m. He has Strong Gale in his pedigree too so the biggest worry about him wasn't put to bed. Do they really get 4m3f110y (the shortening of teh distance by 110y will help I'm sure). You need to gallop to the line as was shown last year.