Toyota Prius

Carpenter

Is it impossible to find 1 of these cars for sale that is genuine I am looking for a 07--08 and cannot find 1 in Ireland that is real :mad:

Gurgle

There's no shortage of them on carzone and done deal.

What do you mean by real / genuine?
Is someone re-badging starlets?

Carpenter

Gurgle wrote: »

There's no shortage of them on carzone and done deal.

What do you mean by real / genuine?
Is someone re-badging starlets?

No I mean with real mileage and there is a shortage when your looking for 1 I seen 1 on Sunday and was told it had 41k on it and man was it in bits also every other 1 on donedeal or carzone are sold:mad:

BrendanD

i bought one Christmas week 2007 with 140000 miles on the clock , English import ex fleet car full service history got to say i love it drives like a new car

Carpenter

BrendanD wrote: »

i bought one Christmas week 2007 with 140000 miles on the clock , English import ex fleet car full service history got to say i love it drives like a new car

Garage or private

Gurgle

Carpenter wrote: »

No I mean with real mileage and there is a shortage when your looking for 1 I seen 1 on Sunday and was told it had 41k on it and man was it in bits also every other 1 on donedeal or carzone are sold:mad:

Ah, with you now.

Apparently 1 in 5 is 'provably' clocked rte report, with a straight-up discrepancy in recorded mileage.

And this doesn't include imports that were clocked before registration here, or the more subtle jobs where e.g. half the additional mileage is 'removed' before each NCT.

You're probably wasting your time looking for any 5/6yo car with genuine low mileage. Just ignore the clock and inspect the car.

As per:

BrendanD wrote: »

i bought one Christmas week 2007 with 140000 miles on the clock , English import ex fleet car full service history got to say i love it drives like a new car

Lutecia

I have a 08 one, would like to get rid of it (not a big fan of driving toyotas, been used to more exciting French cars) but this car makes so much sense (low tax, easy on fuel, reliable and automatic) that I think I'm going to keep it for a good while (not so sure what to replace it with!). I have 3 people around me that want to buy it off me so I understand your frustration.
I've bought mine a year ago at Toyota Longford, it was far (I'm from Cork) but really good price, and a year warranty.
However keep in mind that most (I mean 90%) are UK imports. Toyota Ireland buys them off Toyota UK. And most are ex-lease, 3 ish years old, and were in London area (no congestion charge). That may be why they aren't top notch (mine and a few scratches etc).
Good luck finding one!

Carpenter

Lutecia wrote: »

I have a 08 one, would like to get rid of it (not a big fan of driving toyotas, been used to more exciting French cars) but this car makes so much sense (low tax, easy on fuel, reliable and automatic) that I think I'm going to keep it for a good while (not so sure what to replace it with!). I have 3 people around me that want to buy it off me so I understand your frustration.
I've bought mine a year ago at Toyota Longford, it was far (I'm from Cork) but really good price, and a year warranty.
However keep in mind that most (I mean 90%) are UK imports. Toyota Ireland buys them off Toyota UK. And most are ex-lease, 3 ish years old, and were in London area (no congestion charge). That may be why they aren't top notch (mine and a few scratches etc).
Good luck finding one!

If you want to sell it give me a bell:D

BrendanD

Carpenter wrote: »

Garage or private

bought it off a main Toyota dealer in limerick 1 year extended warranty

Carpenter

BrendanD wrote: »

bought it off a main Toyota dealer in limerick 1 year extended warranty

Can I ask the cost???:D

BrendanD

sent you a pm

September1

Consider bringing one from UK as VRT is lower on them 15% of OMSP minus some fixed amount depending on age, they are much better equipped and there is quite a few of exlease vehicles.

Carpenter

September1 wrote: »

Consider bringing one from UK as VRT is lower on them 15% of OMSP minus some fixed amount depending on age, they are much better equipped and there is quite a few of exlease vehicles.

Have you done this or have any links

colm_mcm

What's your budget

This looks nice

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201212164637139/sort/default/make/TOYOTA/model/PRIUS/postcode/bt39jp/radius/1501/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/maximum-age/up_to_5_years_old/page/2/advert-type/featured-listing/dealer/76748/usedcars?logcode=flp

September1

September1 wrote: »

Consider bringing one from UK as VRT is lower on them 15% of OMSP minus some fixed amount depending on age, they are much better equipped and there is quite a few of exlease vehicles.

Here is a table: http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/faqs-vrt.html#section91

goz83

Pity
Rolling
In
Unbearable
Shame

I couldn't drive one.

colm_mcm

goz83 wrote: »

Pity
Rolling
In
Unbearable
Shame

I couldn't drive one.

*cough* Zafira *cough*

Lutecia

It actually doesn't roll that much. Issue is with the steering that isn't really sharp. On daily basis, it's really competent, but if you remotely want to "go fast" the thing just doesn't want to. It's like running in high heels.

goz83

colm_mcm wrote: »

*cough* Zafira *cough*

Can't fit 4 kids and two adults into a prius :pac:

Besides, I have my FTO to boost my ego

Lutecia wrote: »

It actually doesn't roll that much. if you remotely want to "go fast" the thing just doesn't want to. It's like running in high heels.

Nuff said.

colm_mcm

goz83 wrote: »

Can't fit 4 kids and two adults into a prius :pac:

.

Yeah you can!

now theres no excuse!

goz83

colm_mcm wrote: »

Yeah you can!

now theres no excuse!

Oh but there are plenty :pac:

You don't happen to own a prius do you Colm?


I'm guessing that the +2 seats are not nearly as roomy as the Zafira ones.

colm_mcm

goz83 wrote: »

Oh but there are plenty :pac:

You don't happen to own a prius do you Colm?

Nah, sold enough of them though.
Thought you'd be up to speed on my cars?

goz83

Browsing through the photos, it wouldn't appear they are. The Zafira seats pull out of the floor and back, leaving cavities for feet to go below the level of your arse. The Prius Plus ones seem to be the same as the 307sw rear seats, which don't allow the passengers to bend their knees.

goz83

colm_mcm wrote: »

Thought you'd be up to speed on my cars?

Afraid not. Have put so much time into my own.

You planning on making an appearance at the 10 year anniversary?

colm_mcm

Of course I'll be there!



(Sorry for dragging thread off topic)

Carpenter

colm_mcm wrote: »

What's your budget

This looks nice

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201212164637139/sort/default/make/TOYOTA/model/PRIUS/postcode/bt39jp/radius/1501/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/maximum-age/up_to_5_years_old/page/2/advert-type/featured-listing/dealer/76748/usedcars?logcode=flp

7k

colm_mcm

7k is why you're getting ropey ones. You need to go back the years a little.

Or hold out, you might get lucky

Consider a civic IMA too.

who_ru

colm_mcm wrote: »

Consider a civic IMA too.

Colm do you know much about the civic IMA - what they're like to drive? i've read that the engine is loud, boot space small due to batteries in the back.

i'm thinking of getting one - but those wheels!!!!!!!

colm_mcm

who_ru wrote: »

Colm do you know much about the civic IMA - what they're like to drive? i've read that the engine is loud, boot space small due to batteries in the back.

i'm thinking of getting one - but those wheels!!!!!!!

Yeah, drove a few back in the day, drove one last in October when I was car shopping.

The engine isn't that loud, no moreso than the Prius. It's the gearbox, it revs the engine up when you accelerate. If you drive handy its grand.

Boot is fine, but rear seats don't fold.

It's not that fast but quite easy to live with. Prius is a bit livelier.


only concern I that body panels are very thin and seem to dent easily.

The wheels are class I think, but the centres tend to corrode under the clear plastic layer, easy to replace though.

Barry Barry

Have you seen this one? 45,000 miles with FSH asking €9,750
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Toyota/Prius/1.5-T4-H/201245210905487/advert?channel=CARS

colm_mcm

Budget seems to be €7k though.

who_ru

colm_mcm wrote: »

Yeah, drove a few back in the day, drove one last in October when I was car shopping.

The engine isn't that loud, no moreso than the Prius. It's the gearbox, it revs the engine up when you accelerate. If you drive handy its grand.

Boot is fine, but rear seats don't fold.

It's not that fast but quite easy to live with. Prius is a bit livelier.


only concern I that body panels are very thin and seem to dent easily.

The wheels are class I think, but the centres tend to corrode under the clear plastic layer, easy to replace though.

cheers Colm thanks, trying to decide between the civic IMA and the civic petrol saloon 1.8 petrol. i drive about 8,000 miles a year, the tax on the IMA is very tempting but was wondering about performance. however since it's almost 90% urban driving i do i think the IMA should be fine. they seem to be better priced in the uk too so might bring one in.

colm_mcm

I have a 1.8 civic manual and am averaging around 43mpg. Not much town driving.

Autobox would make city driving easier

BrendanD

Just on buying a Prius if you are getting one try and get a 2008 because the 2007 don't qualify for the reduced car tax as i found out today when i went to tax mine :mad:

Chippy01

BrendanD wrote: »

Just on buying a Prius if you are getting one try and get a 2008 because the 2007 don't qualify for the reduced car tax as i found out today when i went to tax mine :mad:

I know that feeling.....

I'll sell you mine (07) genuine mileage 80 k miles, only last 2 oil changes done by me. But recorded mileage up to that.

The gen II has been ultra reliable and known to go over 350,000 miles by taxi drivers in the U.S

Who said the Prius is slow ?

You should put Eco tyres on it a or b energy rated.

I won't lie though you have to learn how to drive the Prius, I'll give you tips if you want if you get one.

The Prius has very little body roll but the steering is light.

who_ru

Deleted User wrote: »

I won't lie though you have to learn how to drive the Prius, I'll give you tips if you want if you get one.

The Prius has very little body roll but the steering is light.

what are the main differences in driving a hybrid as opposed to a regular petrol/diesel engine?

i'd be interested to hear as i'm on the lookout for a hybrid over the next few months.

September1

If you stick to speed of 25mph you would get awesome economy. Please do not attempt on motorway.

who_ru

who_ru wrote: »

what are the main differences in driving a hybrid as opposed to a regular petrol/diesel engine?

i'd be interested to hear as i'm on the lookout for a hybrid over the next few months.

It's far more engaging for one.

There are a few tips such as getting decent tyres energy rating A or B and keeping check of the tyre pressure.

Another trick is pressing e.v mode when you are at lights, sometimes the engine doesn't want to switch off.

The heating, don't set it too high as the engine will have to run in cooler weather more. If you don't need heat turn it off.

As soon as you turn on climate control it activated the air con, you can go into the climate settings and turn it off when not needed.

These make the biggest differences.

When you are driving along at speeds up to 67 kph if you are going down a decent and you lift off the throttle and gently press it until the display shows no energy flowing at all you are free wheeling and consuming 0 energy.

Going down a decent lift off the throttle and press it so as the energy is only flowing from the battery, you would be surprised how far you can go on battery, you are basically keeping the momentum going. This works best up to 80-100 kph.

Cruise doesn't always save energy, using a constant throttle position saves more fuel than cruise.

You will get it after a while but all these tricks help me get 64 mpg in summer and that was on winter tyres, I got new winter tyres a while back and that has increased fuel consumption they are F rated, I didn't know they were that bad until they came with the new label they have to have now.

This consumption I get over mixed driving conditions mostly motorway driving, 80-100 kph mostly some 120 kph.

Basically reset your mpg counter after every fill of fuel and you will see it go down as you get used to it.

Ozziej

September1 wrote: »

If you stick to speed of 25mph you would get awesome economy. Please do not attempt on motorway.

My wife was nearly in tears trading hers in last month to main dealer. Needed to as third kid on way. Brilliant car. We had it for 3 years. Never a thing wrong with it. Very cheap service every year. Nippy. Wife got 54mpg driving across m50 every day. Lots of space in boot and back. Auto gear box very smooth compared to diesel citreon we have traded for.

Would reccomended them highly.

Spotted hers for sale on donedeal last week. Main dealer most have moved it on. 2005 silver. Only 58,000 miles which I can vouch for as have uk cartell report when we imported it. Sneaky salesman says 1 lady owner which isn't true though;)

Ozziej

Ozziej wrote: »

My wife was nearly in tears trading hers in last month to main dealer. Needed to as third kid on way. Brilliant car. We had it for 3 years. Never a thing wrong with it. Very cheap service every year. Nippy. Wife got 54mpg driving across m50 every day. Lots of space in boot and back. Auto gear box very smooth compared to diesel citreon we have traded for.

Would reccomended them highly.

Spotted hers for sale on donedeal last week. Main dealer most have moved it on. 2005 silver. Only 58,000 miles which I can vouch for as have uk cartell report when we imported it. Sneaky salesman says 1 lady owner which isn't true though;)

60 mpg should be easily achievable, If I had proper A rated tyres I'm sure I could get 67 mpg.

How can't you not fit 3 children in a Prius ? I don't have children so I don't know much about all the stuff you need to carry around with them.

This was what I can easily get in summer, this was with my old winter tyres.



ANd this is the fuel I had left

Lutecia

mad_lad I'm impressed by your results really. I can't seem to go anywhere above 60 mpg, and currently sitted between 50 and 55. which year is yours ?
I'm using the usual tricks, like not using the heating, some stealth mode, over inflating tyres, etc. I know i'm mostly doing short city drives, but still, the Prius is supposed to be very good there.

Lutecia

Lutecia wrote: »

mad_lad I'm impressed by your results really. I can't seem to go anywhere above 60 mpg, and currently sitted between 50 and 55. which year is yours ?
I'm using the usual tricks, like not using the heating, some stealth mode, over inflating tyres, etc. I know i'm mostly doing short city drives, but still, the Prius is supposed to be very good there.

Don't over inflate your tyres, that's not good for them or your suspension, mine are set at 35 psi.

The tyres themselves will probably make a big difference. What tyres are you using ? Get the energy tyres, or they come with labels now so don't get a tyre with less than a B rating for energy.

Depending the traffic you are in, constant stop n go traffic will drain your battery and the engine will have to run a lot more.

But try use the pulse and glide more which is the mode that uses 0 energy, on the display there will b 0 energy flowing anywhere. The trick is to back off the accelerator and gently push down until you are completely free wheeling. This works up to 67 kph and putting the gear selector to neutral will not be as effective because regen doesn't work and the engine will be idling in neutral if the car is moving fast enough. You would be surprised how far you can roll.

The other mode works at all speeds up to 100 kph but any speed especially going downhill where you back off the accelerator and push down gently until the display shows energy flowing "only" from the battery, it will keep momentum going and you can get fantastic economy doing this.

But if you know you are coming to a town ahead a mile or two keep that energy for town. Again you can use these tricks in towns too if you get the chance.

SO yes, it's far more engaging than driving a normal car. But now that I'm used to it I can tell what mode I'm in by the feel of the car without even looking at the display.

Regen imo should only be applied when you brake, as you can never get back what you take out, same goes for the Nissan Leaf coasting is far more efficient than regen, but if breaking or stopping then regen is good, especially for the life of the brakes.

The other thing is don't use the e.v button to drive, just use it to shut the engine off at lights or in traffic jam if it stays running, the reason is you get better mpg by using the battery as I said above, keep your battery for when it works best and that's to help keep the momentum going on the open road and in town, using the battery in e.v mode will worsen your economy as the engine will then have to run to keep the battery charged along with provide power to the drive motor as well as the wheels.

galwaytt

Ozziej wrote: »

My wife was nearly in tears trading hers in last month to main dealer. Needed to as third kid on way. Brilliant car. We had it for 3 years. Never a thing wrong with it. Very cheap service every year. Nippy. Wife got 54mpg driving across m50 every day. Lots of space in boot and back. Auto gear box very smooth compared to diesel citreon we have traded for.

Would reccomended them highly.

Spotted hers for sale on donedeal last week. Main dealer most have moved it on. 2005 silver. Only 58,000 miles which I can vouch for as have uk cartell report when we imported it. Sneaky salesman says 1 lady owner which isn't true though;)

....can I ask the obvious question, then: if it was so good, er- why didn't you keep it ? Or if you felt you HAD to change, just get a new(er) one ??

I don't understand changing a car with only 58k on it, tbh..

Lutecia

Thanks for the explanation and tips.
I wasn't aware of the drive downhill with using only electricity technique. I will try that.
I'm not sure about my tyres, will have a look at it. I have the car for almost a year but as they are in good condition I don't mind that yet. Will see when I need to change them.
Pulse and glide is a good technique but unfortuntately not very compatible with my commute.

My driving pattern may not be the most favorable for good economy : I drive in Cork city mostly. And work by the airport (which is at the top of a hill), so engine has to work a lot to get up there. I get some of the energy back going downhill but I actually do have to use the EV mode before going downhill to drain a bit the battery: the hill is so long (around 3 km) that it adds 4 or 5 bars and goes full when I reach the bottom.

Lutecia

Lutecia wrote: »

Thanks for the explanation and tips.
I wasn't aware of the drive downhill with using only electricity technique. I will try that.
I'm not sure about my tyres, will have a look at it. I have the car for almost a year but as they are in good condition I don't mind that yet. Will see when I need to change them.
Pulse and glide is a good technique but unfortuntately not very compatible with my commute.

My driving pattern may not be the most favorable for good economy : I drive in Cork city mostly. And work by the airport (which is at the top of a hill), so engine has to work a lot to get up there. I get some of the energy back going downhill but I actually do have to use the EV mode before going downhill to drain a bit the battery: the hill is so long (around 3 km) that it adds 4 or 5 bars and goes full when I reach the bottom.

Even a slight descent at the right speed using just the energy from the battery can make a big difference.

You would be also surprised at where you can use the pulse and glide but that works only up to 67 kph.

What year is your Prius ?

Ozziej

galwaytt wrote: »

....can I ask the obvious question, then: if it was so good, er- why didn't you keep it ? Or if you felt you HAD to change, just get a new(er) one ??

I don't understand changing a car with only 58k on it, tbh..

Read the post again. Third child due in 2 weeks. 3 small children babyseats don't fit. We tried.

galwaytt

Ozziej wrote: »

Read the post again. Third child due in 2 weeks. 3 small children babyseats don't fit. We tried.

I saw that, but I thought someone else posted the opposite lately.......or maybe I'm hallucinating......

Ozziej

Ozziej wrote: »

Read the post again. Third child due in 2 weeks. 3 small children babyseats don't fit. We tried.

Jaysus, 2 children and one on the way. Do you not find that punishing ? 1 maybe but 3 ? :eek: I think I would crack up. Don't know how people do it, raise them that is!

Lutecia

Deleted User wrote: »

Even a slight descent at the right speed using just the energy from the battery can make a big difference.

You would be also surprised at where you can use the pulse and glide but that works only up to 67 kph.

What year is your Prius ?

I've notice that speed change (70kph on mine).
She's a 2008.

My dad just texted me and managed to to a 300km+ trip today with a Scenic diesel automatic (2012), doing 4.8l/100 average. Can't believe he's doing better than me.

who_ru

Deleted User wrote: »

These make the biggest differences.

When you are driving along at speeds up to 67 kph if you are going down a decent and you lift off the throttle and gently press it until the display shows no energy flowing at all you are free wheeling and consuming 0 energy.

Going down a decent lift off the throttle and press it so as the energy is only flowing from the battery, you would be surprised how far you can go on battery, you are basically keeping the momentum going. This works best up to 80-100 kph.

Cruise doesn't always save energy, using a constant throttle position saves more fuel than cruise.

You will get it after a while but all these tricks help me get 64 mpg in summer and that was on winter tyres, I got new winter tyres a while back and that has increased fuel consumption they are F rated, I didn't know they were that bad until they came with the new label they have to have now.

This consumption I get over mixed driving conditions mostly motorway driving, 80-100 kph mostly some 120 kph.

Basically reset your mpg counter after every fill of fuel and you will see it go down as you get used to it.

you must live in an area with no traffic lights or speed bumps. I am surrounded by both.