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Man Knighted for riding a bike - should we have an Irish Honours system?

  • 29-12-2012 6:09pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭Malibu Sunshine


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/20852564

    Cyclist Bradley Wiggins has been knighted in the New Year Honours list after winning the Tour de France and then gold at the 2012 London Olympics.

    He's now a "Sir" at the age of just 32!

    Should we have a similar system in Ireland for honouring people?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/20852564




    He's now a "Sir" at the age of just 32!

    Should we have a similar system in Ireland for honouring people?

    No, it would just be abused by the politicans :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    And who will have to pay for it ?? And it will probably entail setting up a new committee to oversee it staffed with political cronies, So a big No from me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,074 ✭✭✭finnharpsboy


    arise sir enda kenny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    We should just award people with sh1tehoods.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    arise sir enda kenny
    hehe...

    Sir Enda Sir Enda Sir Enda Surrender


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Sir Anthony O'Reilly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭Icepick


    no


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Sir Anthony O'Reilly

    He is British! Bob geldolf on the other hand...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,195 ✭✭✭Corruptedmorals


    Louis Smith was too, where's the indignation for that? I want to see 'man knighted for doing flippy things and swinging around bars'. Excellent sportsmen/women are more deserving of that honour than other celebrities who get them, most of the time so I don't see the issue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Sir Anthony O'Reilly
    He is British! Bob geldolf on the other hand...

    Sir Anthony is also an Irish citizen.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    If there are no honours in Ireland then why is Lord Henry Mountcharles on the radio every year hyping up his plans for Slane :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    Sir Anthony is also an Irish citizen.
    When it suits him, it doesn't suit him when it comes to paying irish taxes for instance!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭decisions


    Yer man who did the illustrations for the roald dahl books is also getting one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    When it suits him, it doesn't suit him when it comes to paying irish taxes for instance!
    Naturally. A simple flag of convenience for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    man rides big woman who used to know a lot about health, 2 knight hoods and the purple cross.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    If there are no honours in Ireland then why is Lord Henry Mountcharles on the radio every year hyping up his plans for Slane :confused:

    Lord Mountcharles is a "Lord" by heriditary title.
    A knighthood is a life honour bestowed on a person, different things.
    That said I dont see why we should recognise forigen heridary titles, Mountcharles conveniently didn't use his "title" when he ran for Dail Eireann in 1992. He was a FG candidate in Meath.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    Yes, yes there should.

    I would like to be known as Sir Admiral Mattjack , Deputy Manager the fifth ,southern command.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Lord Mountcharles is a "Lord" by heriditary title.
    A knighthood is a life honour bestowed on a person, different things.
    That said I dont see why we should recognise forigen heridary titles, Mountcharles conveniently didn't use his "title" when he ran for Dail Eireann in 1992. He was a FG candidate in Meath.

    Fuckin Gentry?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭Malibu Sunshine


    Sitec wrote: »
    I think we should, instead of "Sir" we could use "Boss". That'l learn em.


    It actually sounds better.

    I just said it in my head with my name and it made "Sir" sound like an episode of Glee.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/20852564




    He's now a "Sir" at the age of just 32!

    Should we have a similar system in Ireland for honouring people?


    Theres enough jumped up arseholes here as it is. Also 'Sir Denis O'Brien'.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭The_Gatsby


    Sir Pat Kenny.

    On a serious note, I can't think of any Irish people I'd bother giving a knighthood to...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    Lukebray wrote: »
    Sir Pat Kenny.

    On a serious note, I can't think of any Irish people I'd bother giving a knighthood to...

    Marty Whelan? - Years of daytime TV, stand-in work, voiceovers, graveyard shifts on the radio. The man has been a stalwart with little recognition. Arise Sir Marty!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭cosbloodymick


    Of course there should be no knighthoods in Ireland, this is supposed to be a republic.... oh hang on a sec!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭BillyMitchel


    Isn't there Irish people who have turned them down or am I just making things up? Didn't John Lennon also refuse one??

    Pretty good achievement for his age, he seems like an alright kinda guy too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,537 ✭✭✭The Davestator


    We have the freedom of the city award which is just as silly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    you're not meant to call non British subjects Sir even after they've been knighted. The Queen told me that.

    She said Geldof smells as bad as he looks too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭GRMA


    Sir Anthony is also an Irish citizen.
    And a class A gob****e and a stain on our country.

    Wish him and his comics would fcuk off


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    GRMA wrote: »
    And a class A gob****e and a stain on our country.

    Wish him and his comics would fcuk off

    Sir Denis O' Brien controls the comics now!:D


  • Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭ Eve Grumpy Surname


    GRMA wrote: »
    And a class A gob****e and a stain on our country.

    Wish him and his comics would fcuk off

    Have some respect you guttersnipe, he has contributed more to Ireland than you ever will.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Have some respect you guttersnipe, he has contributed more to Ireland than you ever will.


    ....he did? when did that happen?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭GRMA


    Have some respect you guttersnipe, he has contributed more to Ireland than you ever will.
    Yeah I dont think I could possibly make a worse contribution than he has


  • Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭ Eve Grumpy Surname


    Nodin wrote: »
    ....he did? when did that happen?

    Through his many sporting and charitable endeavours to name a few.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Have some respect you guttersnipe, he has contributed more to Ireland than you ever will.


    ....would ye like him to tug his forelock to the Great One, or will a quick doff of the cap do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Thank fúck we don't have an honours system. After Hours would explode when they're handed out for one thing. Imagine Sir Ryan Tubridy. Jesus wept, thank fúck we don't have it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Through his many sporting and charitable endeavours to name a few.


    And that cancels out the vile influence hes had through the indo, does it?


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  • Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭ Eve Grumpy Surname


    Nodin wrote: »
    ....would ye like him to tug his forelock to the Great One, or will a quick doff of the cap do?

    You quoted and replied to that comment already, should I type in txt speak for you? you might react quicker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    You already quoted and replied to that comment already, should I type in txt speak for you? you might react quicker.

    Tony O’Reilly, used his position to interfere directly with editorial policy. Prior to the 2007 general election, the Sunday Independent pursued a relentless campaign against the then taoiseach, Bertie Ahern, then immediately following a private meeting between Tony O’Reilly and Bertie Ahern, the line changed direction 180 degrees. The claims by the Sunday Independent now that such interference never occurred are plainly false.
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2012/0815/1224322198397.html

    A former advisor to the Rainbow Government of the 1990s has told the Mahon Tribunal he was told that the chairman of Independent News and Media, Tony O'Reilly, was unhappy about not winning the State's second mobile phone licence.
    Sean Donlon told the Tribunal that Dr O'Reilly expressed his disappointment during a meeting with the then Taoiseach, John Bruton, in July 1996.
    Mr Donlon also gave evidence of a meeting with Independent News executives later that year. Mr Donlon said that at that meeting, he was left in no doubt about Independent Newspapers' hostility towards the Government parties if outstanding issues were not resolved.
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2004/0330/moriarty.html
    (my bold)
    The chairman of Independent News & Media (IN&M), Sir Anthony O'Reilly, said the Rainbow Coalition was not given hostile coverage in Independent titles because of disputes he had with it over a number of commercial matters.
    He said he had no foreknowledge of the editorial carried on the front page of the Irish Independent at the time of the 1997 general election. The editorial was headlined "Payback Time" and called on voters not to vote for the parties that comprised the then Rainbow Coalition.
    Sir Anthony said it was the policy of IN&M that its editors were not interfered with by members of the board. He said that if the tribunal wanted verification of this it …
    http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-24731349.html

    What a saint......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    All mere conjecture.
    Conjecture me bollix!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭martic


    Everyone in Donegal must have been knighted at some stage 'what's the craic sir?' 'that's some yok yer drivin sir'


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    "would you step out of the vekhile please, sir?"


  • Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭ Eve Grumpy Surname


    Conjecture me bollix!
    No, it's speculation bollix period.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭Duck Soup


    In years gone by, only really rich people or leaders of large trade unions would get British knighthoods, so in an Irish context, that would have given you:

    Lord O'Reilly of Beanz
    Lord O'Brien of Voicemail
    Lord Desmond of Studfarm
    Lord Quinn of InDaWifesName
    Lord Begg of OneOutAllOut

    Knighthoods used to go to faceless civil servants, but now the preference is for sportsmen, TV personalities and musicians who've been at it for a while. So we'd expect to have had by now:

    Sir Larry Mullen
    Sir Gay Byrne
    Dame Sonia O'Sullivan
    Dame Twink
    Dame Daniel O'Donnell
    Sir Brendan Grace
    Sir Paul McGrath
    Sir Brendan O'Carroll


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    We couldnt use it as we would give it to every flash in the pan. Big Brother contestants, Gaa players, The Carter Twins, Samantha Mumba and the likes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Get rid of Higgins and pick out an ancestor of Rory O'Connor to become High King.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    Get rid of Higgins and pick out an ancestor of Rory O'Connor to become High King.

    Ah feck off, not another civil war!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rory_O'Connor_(Irish_republican)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    Duck Soup wrote: »
    Dame Twink
    ba-dum tish!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    Irish Honours? i nearly failed the foundation level...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    ba-dum tish!



    Ireland most obscene voicemails!!!
    Dame cnutychops herself!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    Misleading thread title.

    Could say the same for anyone that wins anything. Man knighted for talking. Man knighted for writing. Man knighted for driving a car.


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