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Potential for another wave of extreme winds Sunday Night/Monday

  • 29-12-2012 11:50am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭


    Higher res models are now showing the potential for severe weather as a wave develops and a small but tightly wound circulation crosses the country late Sunday. The exact scale and the development of the disturbance is at this point somewhat uncertain.

    The NAE picks up the feature as potential extreme wind event for some.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 270 ✭✭Bejubby


    2 in a row!

    I think we should concentrate more on wind and rain events rather than snow. They're more common and always guaaranteed.
    But I'm still a snow lover.
    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,732 ✭✭✭weisses


    This event will mainly affect the NW am i right ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,166 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    Sunday nights feature needs close watching.
    Could go either way, but were it to upgrade from where it's at it could well raise eyebrows


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    An interesting feature on the NAE alright.

    Storm force winds along some west/southwest coasts here.

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    And then later sustained winds close to gale force in some inland areas as it crosses the country.

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    Worth keeping an eye on for sure. Since its a small system you could easily see some changes in track and intensity in this short time which could have a big impact on which areas might see strong winds & how strong they would be, since it's a narrow windfield.

    We'll see how much changes on the 12Z.

    Met Eireann highlight the uncertainty:
    Very wet and windy overnight Sunday night with strong and gusty southerly winds and with heavy rain in many places. Lowest temperatures 6 to 9 C. Some severe gusts are possible in places, but this is not certain as of yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    Turned wild here in mayo the last 30 minutes. Wind howling and sky sports juddering. Lots of wet snow in with the rain too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭downwiththatsor


    Very wild in the heavy showers of rain / hail here in the South West, looks like a slight dusting at 800m+


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,975 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    Wind speed goes up. :)

    Current data for co.Mayo, co.Roscommon border PWS
    29 Dec 2012 15:05:12

    Temperature (°C):
    Current 2,2
    Trend (per hour) -1,1
    Average today 5,5
    Wind chill -3,9
    Heat Index 2,2
    Dew Point 2,1
    Rel Humidity 99%

    Wind (km/h):
    Current Gust 42,8 W
    Average Speed 32,9 SW

    Rainfall (mm):
    Current rate 0,0
    Last hour 1,2
    Total today 1,2
    Total yesterday 6,9
    Total this month 42,6
    Total this year 685,2

    Pressure (hPa):
    Current 968,9
    Trend (per hour) 0,0

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    12Z NAE for Monday morning.

    A bit weaker and a bit further south.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    There will be strong winds this evening especially in the northwest regardless of the development of the system late Sunday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭Pangea


    What about this from IWO for tomorrow morning, nothing on met.ie about it.
    WEATHER UPDATE: We are expecting further strong winds overnight (peaking 0400-0800h Sunday) mainly across northern counties. The peak gust potential is similar to Friday's max recorded gusts of 120-130 km/hr. After somewhat of a midday easing to 50-70 km/hr, another interval of about 80-110 km/hr winds are likely during Sunday evening. The winds will be strongest in southern and eastern counties.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Weathering


    There will be strong winds this evening especially in the northwest regardless of the development of the system late Sunday.
    On my phone think i accidently almost sent a report ha. Winds 130 for tonight like mt said or less?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Mr Cumulonimbus


    12Z GFS has it on a more northerly track. 3am Mon morning.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,166 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    GFS on its own though as NAE and UKMO keep it further South


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Pangea wrote: »
    What about this from IWO for tomorrow morning, nothing on met.ie about it.
    WEATHER UPDATE: We are expecting further strong winds overnight (peaking 0400-0800h Sunday) mainly across northern counties. The peak gust potential is similar to Friday's max recorded gusts of 120-130 km/hr.

    I have to disagree with this. I don't think it will be that severe at all this evening/tomorrow. The severe winds will be too far to the northwest, out at sea. Strong winds, but the models don't show potential for 130 km/h gusts. Maybe up to 100 km/h on exposed coasts. Inland, just looks windy.

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    This is different the system being shown for Sunday night / Monday morning, in case anyone is confused.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Is there much rain in this system?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭howlinwolf


    met.ie dont have any weather warning up on there site ( so far). is this because there is less chance of strong winds as apposed to last night..they had warnings for that wind event i think at least 24hrs before or is it the type of wave that makes it harder to predict and they just arent to sure yet.... a bit like the rest of us:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    howlinwolf wrote: »
    met.ie dont have any weather warning up on there site ( so far). is this because there is less chance of strong winds as apposed to last night..they had warnings for that wind event i think at least 24hrs before or is it the type of wave that makes it harder to predict and they just arent to sure yet.... a bit like the rest of us:rolleyes:

    Just due to the uncertainty I'd say. They will have a warning for Sunday night / Monday morning unless it gets downgraded on the models.
    Is there much rain in this system?

    12Z NAE had up to about 30mm in places over the next 48 hours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Weathering


    Given the current set up maquiladora, what wind speeds could we expect?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Weathering wrote: »
    Given the current set up maquiladora, what wind speeds could we expect?

    Well its changing a bit on every run, so still a fair bit of uncertainty, but if it were to pan out as below then it could bring storm force winds to a fairly limited area of coastline in the west. An even smaller area than was shown on the same model this morning.

    Could easily be downgraded to something insignificant by tomorrow though. It's a small little feature. We'll see.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭eskimocat


    Gale warning on met eireann

    Warnings


    Gale Warning

    West to southwest gales will continue overnight and on Sunday morning on all Irish coastal waters and on the Irish Sea with strong gales at times on western and northern coasts from Valentia to Erris Head to Fair Head.
    Issued at 23:00 on 29-Dec-2012

    http://www.met.ie/forecasts/warnings.asp


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,780 ✭✭✭Bsal


    Western areas are looking at 30-35kts and some parts of the East 30kts from around 5pm till midnightish. I would expect gusts in the west to around 55kts and around 45kts for the east. It might change though :)

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Weathering


    Bsal wrote: »
    Western areas are looking at 30-35kts and some parts of the East 30kts from around 5pm till midnightish. I would expect gusts in the west to around 55kts and around 45kts for the east. It might change though :)

    Hi, What website did you get that from
    Please link


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Bsal wrote: »
    Western areas are looking at 30-35kts and some parts of the East 30kts from around 5pm till midnightish. I would expect gusts in the west to around 55kts and around 45kts for the east. It might change though :)

    What does WRF show for around 6am Monday morning? Thats when the NAE is showing that small little low with the area of tightly spaced isobars with a narrow windfield.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,780 ✭✭✭Bsal


    Unfortunetly I can only get charts for upto 24hrs ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    Has that low pressure/feature disappeared now? Or do I need to be looking at hi res charts?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Weathering


    Update from the met office Further spells of heavy rain are expected to move eastwards across the UK during Sunday night and Monday, with the most persistent heavy rain likely to affect high ground in western areas from north Wales northwards. The rain will clear eastwards from these areas early on Monday afternoon.

    The rain will be accompanied by southwesterly gales in places, with a risk of severe gales for a time across Northern Ireland, southern Scotland and northern England during Monday.

    The public should be aware of possible disruption, particularly to travel, and also of the potential for localised flooding

    Gusts of 50-60mph are expected and a low risk of 65-70mph for a short period on monday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Track has shifted further north and its a little weaker again on the NAE.

    Still a fair bit of uncertainty but its looking less severe than yesterday anyway. No warning from Met Eireann this morning suggests it may not look too bad on their hi-res model.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Weathering


    Track has shifted further north and its a little weaker again on the NAE.

    Still a fair bit of uncertainty but its looking less severe than yesterday anyway. No warning from Met Eireann this morning suggests it may not look too bad on their hi-res model.

    Agreed, but they do mention "There will be further spells of heavy and persistent rain tonight. It will stay windy with strong to near gale force southwesterly winds, while along coastal parts there will be gale force winds and severe gusts."

    Also met office mentioning the possibility of 70mph winds for N.Ireland, they've never had winds that high forecast for any time this winter so far

    Typical set up, hard to know what's going to happen until it comes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,150 ✭✭✭Deep Easterly


    No mention of anything of significance for tonight/early tomorrow on RTE Farming forecast there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭howlinwolf


    i havent seen any updated models but just going by the farming forecast and met.ie havin no weather warning for tonight/tomorrow morning it seems that this might be fading with every passing hour.......have any of models anything to suggest otherwise?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 270 ✭✭Bejubby


    Echo, farming forecast forecast forecast


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    howlinwolf wrote: »
    i havent seen any updated models but just going by the farming forecast and met.ie havin no weather warning for tonight/tomorrow morning it seems that this might be fading with every passing hour.......have any of models anything to suggest otherwise?

    Still there on the 12Z NAE, but its tracking further north and weaker than yesterday. Some gales / strong gales on some west / northwest coast for a while. Nothing exceptional. It's covered in the sea area forecast.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,971 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    Its quite a stormy evening in Galway. At least as stormy if not more than the last day during the week (that didn't hit Galway too hard) . It's by no means hurricane winds but it is quite wild out and the wind is howling loudly here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,296 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    It has turned into a wild evening! (Castlebar)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭Pangea


    It gust mentioned severe gusts on the met eireann forecast.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Weathering


    Pangea wrote: »
    It gust mentioned severe gusts on the met eireann forecast.

    Met office giving 60mph possible 70 for N.ireland
    on the website view the warning then more details


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Conrach


    Weathering wrote: »
    Met office giving 60mph possible 70 for N.ireland
    on the website view the warning then more details

    The wind is fierce here now. Much worse than Friday night. The main Belfast to Dublin road has been closed southbound due to a fallen tree and a car which collided with it. I live about 2 miles from there. A neighbour's SKY dish has just blown off. He came and asked us for a ladder..eejit!! Going up a ladder in those winds. :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Weathering


    Conrach wrote: »
    The wind is fierce here now. Much worse than Friday night. The main Belfast to Dublin road has been closed southbound due to a fallen tree and a car which collided with it. I live about 2 miles from there. A neighbour's SKY dish has just blown off. He came and asked us for a ladder..eejit!! Going up a ladder in those winds. :eek:

    It's not too bad here in Donegal, on twitter they said the worst gust would be in the morning. Sky dish poor him ha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,780 ✭✭✭Bsal


    Its still showing strong on the WRF model but a bit weaker than earlier forecasts.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,780 ✭✭✭Bsal


    If you want to check out METAR reports from Donegal and Sligo airports

    http://www.dawn-it.com/met/

    I see a gust of 52kts recorded at 1933 at Sligo.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Weathering


    Tomorrow mornings looking rough in donegal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    Some very strong gusts here in last hour. Mean speeds not great, but some mad gusts every so often, in mayo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,975 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    Not really bad, could be worse. ;)

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    Current data for Mayo/Roscommon border PWS
    30 Dec 2012 21:35:14

    Temperature (°C):
    Current 9,1
    Trend (per hour) -0,1
    Average today 5,1
    Wind chill 4,6
    Heat Index 9,1
    Dew Point 9,0
    Rel Humidity 99%

    Wind (km/h):
    Current Gust 57,6 S
    Average Speed 42,4 SSW

    Rainfall (mm):
    Current rate 0,0
    Last hour 0,0
    Total today 6,9
    Total yesterday 1,8
    Total this month 50,1
    Total this year 692,7

    Pressure (hPa):
    Current 971,3
    Trend (per hour) -0,8


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 845 ✭✭✭tylercollins


    Quiet windy and wet in Derry at the moment. Foyle Bridge has been limited to 30mph for all vehicles, winds speeds have to be 30mph + for the the bridge to have the speed limited. Also numerous roads are flooded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,011 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Very windy in Galway gusting 65 kph


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭eskimocat


    the wind is picking up here in Leitrim too.... the odd more vicious gust but not as dramatic as the other night. Is this one coming in at a different direction?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,297 ✭✭✭pauldry


    eskimocat wrote: »
    the wind is picking up here in Leitrim too.... the odd more vicious gust but not as dramatic as the other night. Is this one coming in at a different direction?
    Very windy in Dublin roof rattling 50 knots gust


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,971 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    Its a wild one in Galway tonight. Has been since early afternoon. Tonight is considerably worse than that day during the week we were warned about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,061 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    On a Gobus up to Dublin from Galway at 7pm you could really feel the crosswind on the motorway slamming into the bus all the way to the first tollbooth from out at Galway Airport, I put on my seatbelt.

    Very windy in Greystones right now, roof is creaking like mad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭Grimreaper666


    Blowing a gale here in Cork too.


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