Black Monday - NFL Coaching Changes

Paully D

Well, Black Monday is almost upon us. The day where some organisations will make huge changes. What changes do you foresee happening? What do you want to see, etc?

I think the Browns, Bills, Jaguars, Titans, Chargers, Eagles, Panthers and Chiefs will be letting head coaches and in some cases GM's go.

I think the Jets will stick with Rex Ryan but it's probably a coin toss at this stage trying to guess what will happen there.

In a move that I don't think should happen I have a feeling the Cardinals will be letting Whisenhunt go too.

It's going to be a hugely interesting offseason with so many changes likely to take place.

ABajaninCork

Add the Raiders and possibly the Bears (if we don't make the playoffs), and it should indeed be interesting...

Chucky the tree

ABajaninCork wrote: »

Add the Raiders and possibly the Bears (if we don't make the playoffs), and it should indeed be interesting...

I'd be very surprised if Raiders let go of our Head coach.

f1dan

Good article on each team from Sports Ilustrated

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20121227/black-monday-nfl-coaches-2012/index.html

ABajaninCork

Chucky the tree wrote: »

I'd be very surprised if we let go of our Head coach.

You mean Da Bears? Well, they're not a sacking team as we know. Key injuries this year haven't helped as well as the fact the Bears aren't the greatest when it comes to the draft. It's only our D that's keeping us in the hunt. The O line is crap, Cutler too inconsistent, and Forte's banged up. But they're beginning to whisper in the Windy City. And I'm beginning to fear for Lovie, who is a great coach and I have the utmost respect for. I personally want him to stay.

Realt Dearg Sec

ABajaninCork wrote: »

You mean Da Bears? Well, they're not a sacking team as we know. Key injuries this year haven't helped as well as the fact the Bears aren't the greatest when it comes to the draft. It's only our D that's keeping us in the hunt. The O line is crap, Cutler too inconsistent, and Forte's banged up. But they're beginning to whisper in the Windy City. And I'm beginning to fear for Lovie, who is a great coach and I have the utmost respect for. I personally want him to stay.

But by his own measurements of success, he hasn't delivered. He said his aims were beating the Packers and winning the Superbowl. These aims seem further away now than two years ago. His offense is ultimately something he needs to take responsibility for. Tice hasn't got them firing. That said, Cutler wants some stability, and argues that part of the problem for the offense is the constant changing around of its managing personnel. Cutler may be inconsistent, but he's a good tough qb, and along with Marshall and Alshon, they have the ability to make a competitive offense, if they draft well. Besides, there's no point blaming Cutler when the playcalls are to blame, and the O-line leaves him under pressure. More to the point, there is not a hope in hell that the Bears will be getting a better qb any time soon, and indeed I wouldn't be surprised if Cutler decided to go elsewhere. The arrival of Marshall is probably the only reason he wasn't gone before now.

Anyway the draft isn't a matter for Smith, but the current state of the offense is. They need an offensively minded HC. Looks like there will be a lot of jobs opening up and you'd wonder how attractive the Bears are to a top candidate right now.

Chucky the tree

ABajaninCork wrote: »

You mean Da Bears? Well, they're not a sacking team as we know. Key injuries this year haven't helped as well as the fact the Bears aren't the greatest when it comes to the draft. It's only our D that's keeping us in the hunt. The O line is crap, Cutler too inconsistent, and Forte's banged up. But they're beginning to whisper in the Windy City. And I'm beginning to fear for Lovie, who is a great coach and I have the utmost respect for. I personally want him to stay.

Sorry, meant Raiders.

GoldFour4

I think Ron Rivera will be given another chance in Carolina.

Reading that article though and the thoughts of Chip Kelly coaching the team is mouth watering !

Dennis Allen giving Terrell Pryor the starting job is just a signal that he's given up on the Raiders imo.

matthew8

I think the Bears will make the playoffs and Smith will be kept. Don't think Rivera/Allen will get the chop. I reckon Reid, Whisenhunt, Gailey, Shurmur, Munchak, Turner and Crennel are on the way out.

Paully D

Reid gone, according to NFL.com:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000118990/article/andy-reid-out-as-philadelphia-eagles-coach

spiralism

San Diego bound i bet. I do not want him near Philip Rivers :mad:

Justin10

No I thought he would be coming to SD too but seems not.

Im thinking Pagano, it has been confirmed by a beat writer we are interested in Arians from Colts.

I be curious to know if he would be an OC here in San Diego since he is from here. Do feel he abandons the run just like Norv.

HigginsJ

Coughlin out, fed up of these ridiculous late season collapses

wawaman

HigginsJ wrote: »

Coughlin out, fed up of these ridiculous late season collapses

In 2 minds about Coughlin myself, think he will be there next year though, but if you got rid, who would you get in? Maybe a case of better the devil you know

mikemac1

wawaman wrote: »

In 2 minds about Coughlin myself, think he will be there next year though, but if you got rid, who would you get in? Maybe a case of better the devil you know

Tough, hard nosed coach who takes no nonsense but improves average players?

Mike Zimmer!

jack presley

Rob Ryan who despite never having a great defence yet is still on the screen during games more than every other co-ordinator combined, is he safe? Maybe Jerry will take over that role as well.

helimachoptor

Munchak is staying according to reports

Red Crow

I'd only fire Coughlin because he won't get rid of Fewell or Killdrive

kmart6

JayGlazer wrote:

Black Monday begins. The Cleveland Browns have just fired HC Pat Shurmur

JayGlazer wrote:

In addition to Shurmur the Browns have also fired GM Tom Hecker

SI_PeterKing wrote:

Mike Tannenbaum fired, Woody Johnson announces.

AdamSchefter wrote:

Jets announced they fired GM Mike Tannenbaun and are keeping HC Rex Ryan.

The balls rolling....

Justin10

Jags announced they have fired their GM Gene Smith

SantryRed

HigginsJ wrote: »

Coughlin out, fed up of these ridiculous late season collapses

He won the Super Bowl last year.... And 4 years before that. 2 in 5 years and he should be sacked?

HigginsJ

mikemac1 wrote: »

Tough, hard nosed coach who takes no nonsense but improves average players?

Mike Zimmer!

Deserves a shot somewhere. Wouldn't say no to Gruden if he wanted back into coaching either.

HigginsJ

SantryRed wrote: »

He won the Super Bowl last year.... And 4 years before that. 2 in 5 years and he should be sacked?

Yea pretty much

His record in past 4 years is 9-7, 9-7, 10-6 and 8-8. Only made playoffs once in those 4 years. He would have been gone last year if he didn't make the playoffs.

SantryRed

HigginsJ wrote: »

Yea pretty much

His record in past 4 years is 9-7, 9-7, 10-6 and 8-8. Only made playoffs once in those 4 years. He would have been gone last year if he didn't make the playoffs.

You make it sound like he only made the play offs and that was it. He won it, again. 2 times in 5. When was the last time Belichik won one?

kmart6

As expected, just officially announced now in Philly.

Adam Caplin wrote:

Eagles announced that Andy Reid is out as head coach, via the team's official website

JayGlazer wrote:

Jags HC Mike Mularkey in team mtg just told players as far as he knows he's still head coach after talking w owner Thurs and today

While Mularkey says he's given indication he is still coach, he probably still has to see how new GM's role plays into it

Red Crow

Coughlin will still be in NY and will be given the chance to win a Superbowl at home in NY City. He may be fired if he can't change the coaching staff.

spiralism

HigginsJ wrote: »

Yea pretty much

His record in past 4 years is 9-7, 9-7, 10-6 and 8-8. Only made playoffs once in those 4 years. He would have been gone last year if he didn't make the playoffs.

Don't be fickle. He's a HOF coach. Get rid of Killdrive and sort a few things out and you'll be fine

Paully D

I'd really like to see Reid take a year off to be honest. I think he'd really benefit from it, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if he jumped straight back in.

Son Of A Vidic

Paully D wrote: »

I'd really like to see Reid take a year off to be honest. I think he'd really benefit from it, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if he jumped straight back in.

I totally agree with you there, I also think he needs to take a year off. But as you said, he might not. I think it really is commendable that he stuck out the season at all, especially after all he's been through.

helimachoptor

Bears looking for a new head coach according to Adam Schefter on twitter

kmart6

Surprising....

Adam Schefter wrote:

Whoa: Bears have sent out consent forms requesting permission to interview head-coaching candidates.

GoldFour4

Romeo gone from Kansas. Been a tough year and it's really best for him to leave that city after whats happened.

Itssoeasy

helimachoptor wrote: »

Bears looking for a new head coach according to Adam Schefter on twitter

Romeo Crennell is done in KC according to nfl network.

Itssoeasy

according to 97.5 the fanatic in philly the press aren't being allowed into the novacare complex until four irish time. Speculation is that Andy Reid is there.

Copper_pipe

Bills have fired Chan gailey

Itssoeasy

Buffalo looking for a new coach.

Paully D

This is mental. NFL Network are announcing sackings every like they're going out of fashion.

spiralism

As a Black Monday goes, this is pretty bad by any standards. Jaysus i hope Lovie Smith stays away from the AFC West, Kansas or San Diego would become a serious headache.

Itssoeasy

PhiladelphiaEagles.com is showing footage of reid and lurie talking to staff. So Reid is there obviously.

Oat23

spiralism wrote: »

As a Black Monday goes, this is pretty bad by any standards. Jaysus i hope Lovie Smith stays away from the AFC West, Kansas or San Diego would become a serious headache.

Bears have requested permission to interview Mike McCoy from the Broncos. Thoughts on him?

Haven't watched an awful lot of the Broncos this year, but I know he has Mannaing at QB so..

spiralism

Oatesy23 wrote: »

Bears have requested permission to interview Mike McCoy from the Broncos. Thoughts on him?

Haven't watched an awful lot of the Broncos this year, but I know he has Mannaing at QB so..

He's very versatile is how i'd describe him. Managed to run a gimmick offence with Tebow one year and the Manning offence this year. Ranked two in points scored after this season. Wouldn't be the best of the best as offensive co-ordinators go, he'll have the odd playcall that'll do your head in a la Martz but the fella knows his **** and is good head coach material.

Whoever's looking for coaches: Take McCoy if yee must, we'd rather have him but would understand. On the other hand, **** off away from Jack Del Rio, he's ours.

I notice that Kansas are expected to retain Scott Pioli... big mistake if they do it.

eagle eye

spiralism wrote: »

I notice that Kansas are expected to retain Scott Pioli... big mistake if they do it.

Care to expand on that?

spiralism

eagle eye wrote: »

Care to expand on that?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000118607/article/scott-pioli-expected-to-remain-kansas-city-chiefs-gm

Paully D

Falcons OC interviewing for Browns, Eagles and Chiefs HC job.

Benimar

Norv gone now, according to the Chargers Twitter account. AJ Smith also clearing out his office.

eagle eye

spiralism wrote: »

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000118607/article/scott-pioli-expected-to-remain-kansas-city-chiefs-gm

I was asking why you contend it would be a bad idea to keep him. The fans really don't know that much about things. They just want to blame somebody and Pioli has been there for a while now so he would be their first target.

gerire

Jets are having a coaches meeting with woody right now. Would not expect sparano to be coming out of that still on the staff

eagle eye

Ken Wishenhunt and GM Graves both get the bullet in Arizona. This truly is a crazy day. It was clear that QB injuries cost the Cardinals big.

Itssoeasy

eagle eye wrote: »

Ken Wishenhunt and GM Graves both get the bullet in Arizona. This truly is a crazy day. It was clear that QB injuries cost the Falcons big.

Ah ya the arizona falcons.

eagle eye

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Ah ya the arizona falcons.

Meh Cardinals or Falcons whats the diff, they are both birds.:o

Itssoeasy

eagle eye wrote: »

Meh Cardinals or Falcons whats the diff, they are both birds.:o

one is nfc no1 seed and one is a joke.And yes they are both birds.