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Would you have protected sex with someone with HIV?

  • 25-12-2012 11:34pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭


    Some people apparently wouldnt kiss someone with HIV, one declared she wouldnt touch someone with HIV, but would you have protected sex with someone who had HIV?

    My answer is, casually No, LTR, Yes.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭Max Power


    I'm pretty positive I wouldn't..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    I'm pretty positive I wouldn't..

    HIV positive?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    Stupidest question ever


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭Max Power




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Yeah,over the internet.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,255 ✭✭✭✭Esoteric_


    Good God, AH is full of shíte threads today. The drink must be going to peoples' heads!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Nope. Accidents happen even when using precautions.

    On a side note something like 1% of Europeans have a natural immunity to the virus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭the keen edge


    I wont make a second round of tea in mug.

    But sex with a HIV sufferer, fcuk it why the hell not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Senna wrote: »
    Stupidest question ever

    Not really, among the LGBT community specifically it's something that is considered by most. Not so much by straight people for some reason.

    That said, I wouldn't. My sexual health is not something I'd take the risk for. I simply wouldn't get into a relationship with someone who is HIV positive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    My next door neighbours don't have HIV, they do however have AIDS.

    One has a hearing aid the other has a walking aid.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    I wont make a second round of tea in mug.

    But sex with a HIV sufferer, fcuk it why the hell not.

    It's very hard to catch...apparently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,156 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    efb wrote: »
    Some people apparently wouldnt kiss someone with HIV, one declared she wouldnt touch someone with HIV, but would you have protected sex with someone who had HIV?

    My answer is, casually No, LTR, Yes.

    Same here

    Casually no but in a relationship then yes

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    How hawt would the person be and how good the sex?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭LostBoy101


    Go home you're drunk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭sfwcork


    What size boobies has she? Is she breathing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Senna wrote: »
    Stupidest question ever

    why it it?

    Im stone cold sober btw.

    My boyfriend had protected sex previously with someone with HIV.

    Would that be an issue, having safe sex with someone who previously had safe sex with someone with HIV?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    I have a couple of friends who are HIV positive and one of them is in a long term relationship and his partner has not tested positive for the virus. With the breakthrough of drugs (of course incredibly expensive drugs in the US), those who test positive nowadays are living normal life spans. It isn't truly the death sentence it was several years ago; what makes it frightening is the fear of being socially stigmatized by it due to most people's ignorance related to the virus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Sierra 117


    I wouldn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    I have a couple of friends who are HIV positive and one of them is in a long term relationship and his partner has not tested positive for the virus. With the breakthrough of drugs (of course incredibly expensive drugs in the US), those who test positive nowadays are living normal life spans. It isn't truly the death sentence it was several years ago; what makes it frightening is the fear of being socially stigmatized by it due to most people's ignorance related to the virus.

    Yeah thankfully it is not longer the death sentence it was. TBF attitudes have changed a lot, still need more changes though.

    I had a mate who developed full blown AIDS, he died in 91; the change in peoples attitudes are miles apart compared to then. Family had to to put up with all types of ignorance, the body could not be displayed, had to have a closed casket.

    So thankfully we are a long way from there, but there still is a lot of ignorance out there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭Daith


    efb wrote: »
    why it it?

    Im stone cold sober btw.

    My boyfriend had protected sex previously with someone with HIV.

    Would that be an issue, having safe sex with someone who previously had safe sex with someone with HIV?

    I'm not sure though I would have asked he had a STI test just to make sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    I have a couple of friends who are HIV positive and one of them is in a long term relationship and his partner has not tested positive for the virus. With the breakthrough of drugs (of course incredibly expensive drugs in the US), those who test positive nowadays are living normal life spans. It isn't truly the death sentence it was several years ago; what makes it frightening is the fear of being socially stigmatized by it due to most people's ignorance related to the virus.

    I wouldn't say I am ignorant of the virus. I'd know a fair bit about it, but still, I wouldn't have sex with someone who is HIV positive or even consider getting into a relationship with them. It's a conscious choice because there are too many other people in the world that I could go for, I'm not risking my health like that.

    That said a lot of people ARE ignorant of the virus, even people who have protected sex with a HIV positive person, yet use lambskin because of allergies, which does little to nothing to protect against STD's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    Same here

    Casually no but in a relationship then yes

    Why, out of curiosity? Is it because you don't care if you become HIV positive if your partner already has it?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭areyawell


    Nope, nor would I have sex with someone with clamydia, Herpes, Genital warts, crabs etc. Idiotic for getting it in the first place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Strawberry Fields


    agreed if I was told in the first place.
    If I was unaware and thought it was someone special. my bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Thread needs a poll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭Grudaire


    Forget the poll.

    Thread needs pics (or gtfo) :)


  • Site Banned Posts: 385 ✭✭pontia


    i wouldent even have sex with someone who had sex with someone who had aids /hiv dont mind person themselves,stupid question.be like driving without a motorbike helmet,not worth risk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    If we create a poll, the question should be: when you do have casual sex with a stranger, do you always use protection? I think we'd be surprised by the results.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Depends, if I met someone who I grew to like and found out later they were HIV then I reckon I could overlook that.

    If it's just a casual thing then it's not worth it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭LiffeyValleyB


    I think a better question is, would you have sex with your father in order to save your mothers life?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Strawberry Fields


    actually a really stupid question because HIV can be passed via saliva which is why most brazzers don't do kissing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    I'm just going to reply to every thread tonight with the lyrics of whatever song I'm listening to, it would be as meaningful a contribution as some of the stuff.:pac:

    Let's make a night to remember, from January to December.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    No I wouldn't.

    I won't even touch someone I suspect might have something. For example I work a bar/club door in Templebar (been on them for years) and would know a lot of the homeless, junkies, scum/robbers etc in the area ~ I won't even shake hands with them for fear of catching something, HIV, TB (I'm Hep overed) etc.. However a recent post by Odysseus was insightful in regards to cross infection, but....!!

    Tbh I'm a bit of a germaphobe and I'd be constantly washing my hands, watching what/who I touch even under normal circumstances.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    actually a really stupid question because HIV can be passed via saliva which is why most brazzers don't do kissing.

    You have no clue about HIV. It cannot be transferred through Kissing or Saliva. Unless both participants happen to be bleeding in the mouth at the same time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    actually a really stupid question because HIV can be passed via saliva which is why most brazzers don't do kissing.


    Saliva does not pose a risk


  • Site Banned Posts: 385 ✭✭pontia


    You have no clue about HIV. It cannot be transferred through Kissing or Saliva. Unless both participants happen to be bleeding in the mouth at the same time.
    so it can be passed through saliva ,a cut lips easy enough to happen,or a cold sore thats cracked


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Strawberry Fields


    Odysseus wrote: »
    Saliva does not pose a risk

    right fair enough the answer is still no.
    I could easily be bleeding without knowing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    pontia wrote: »
    so it can be passed through saliva so,a cut lips easy enough to happen,or a cold sore thats cracked

    Or a passionate kisser/biter!.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    actually a really stupid question because HIV can be passed via saliva which is why most brazzers don't do kissing.

    This isn't true. If the infected partner has bleeding gums and his non-infected partner has an open mouth sore, then they can pass the virus through kissing; otherwise, it is too small amount in saliva alone to actually infect another individual.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    pontia wrote: »
    so it can be passed through saliva so,a cut lips easy enough to happen,or a cold sore thats cracked

    But that's still ultra low risk. It's not saliva passing it, it's blood. I'd be surprised if anyone ever caught HIV through kissing a cold sore, or in fact if it could happen.

    Then again, why would you kiss someone who has a cold sore?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    pontia wrote: »
    so it can be passed through saliva so,a cut lips easy enough to happen,or a cold sore thats cracked

    Again no, does saliva come out of your wounds?


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    What has this got to do with the baby Jesus?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Strawberry Fields


    You have no clue about HIV. It cannot be transferred through Kissing or Saliva. Unless both participants happen to be bleeding in the mouth at the same time.

    well sorry for being heterosexual and used to a bit of class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    well sorry for being heterosexual and used to a bit of class.

    Basing it on sexuality, you are currently at a higher risk of HIV if you are hetero, rather than being gay of a IVDU.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    efb wrote: »
    why it it?

    Im stone cold sober btw.

    My boyfriend had protected sex previously with someone with HIV.

    Would that be an issue, having safe sex with someone who previously had safe sex with someone with HIV?

    Safer* sex.

    Provided they had a full course of blood tests since, then I'd have no issue with it, but if they couldn't prove they had those tests (i.e. a certificate) I'd probably say no, the risk is too great.


    *condoms rip, slip and are are not perfect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    well sorry for being heterosexual and used to a bit of class.

    Huh?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    well sorry for being heterosexual and used to a bit of class.

    I'm hetero... what are you suggesting with regard the having class bit?

    I already said I wouldn't have sex with someone who is HIV Positive anyway, but I do know the risk of infection and I know they are really really low, But I just think it's not worth it for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Strawberry Fields


    Odysseus wrote: »
    Basing it on sexuality, you are currently at a higher risk of HIV if you are hetero, rather than being gay of a IVDU.

    what have intra veneous drug users got to do with sexuality?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    actually a really stupid question because HIV can be passed via saliva which is why most brazzers don't do kissing.

    You'd need buckets and buckets of saliva unless both parties has open mouth wounds.


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