Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Shocking Homophobic/disabled attack on Dublin to Belfast train

Options
  • 25-12-2012 6:45pm
    #1
    azul
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭


    This horrific incident happened last Saturday night on the Dublin to Belfast train at 10.30pm. The victim who is my younger brother, was attacked and beaten by four thugs in their 40´s. The PSNI are taking the matter very seriously and are confident they will catch these individuals. Not alone was the victim traveling alone, he is gay and has a mental disability and is on state disability. He is a very gentle and vulnerable person and in hindsight should probably not have been travelling on his own at that hour. To think that four grown men could do this to someone like this is very disturbing. These men have to be brought to justice.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/1224/1224328152804.html

    http://www.u.tv/News/Homophobic-attack-on-city-commuter-train/838f0a22-3980-47bb-a190-a04abd62a9b0


«1

Comments

  • Options
    #2
    FouxDaFaFa
    Registered Users Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭FouxDaFaFa


    They stole his stuff too? What utter scumbags. I hope your brother is okay, must have been terrifying.


  • Options
    #3
    azul
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭azul


    FouxDaFaFa wrote: »
    They stole his stuff too? What utter scumbags. I hope your brother is okay, must have been terrifying.
    He´s in total shock, I´ve heard something like this takes months to get over.


  • Options
    #4
    ArtyM
    Registered Users Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭ArtyM


    I sincerely hope your Brother recovers from this, and that those who were involved are identified and brought to justice.
    I am upset reading this, I cant imagine how he must feel, having experienced it.


  • Options
    #5
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    OP, just out of curiosity, how did they know he was gay?


  • Options
    #6
    Lawrence1895
    Registered Users Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    That's totally sick, attacking a vulnerable person...and people, witnessing the incident and not intervening :mad:


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #7
    azul
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭azul


    Ghandee wrote: »
    OP, just out of curiosity, how did they know he was gay?
    The opened his laptop when he was at the WC and found a gay forum he was looking at. Harmless content. The police have no interest in the content in his computer, it has no relevance.


  • Options
    #8
    MyBrokenKnees
    Closed Accounts Posts: 922 ✭✭✭MyBrokenKnees


    Ghandee wrote: »
    OP, just out of curiosity, how did they know he was gay?

    Read the link attached it is all explained in the newspaper.


  • Options
    #9
    strandroad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    It said in one of the articles that they could see he was on a gay dating website.

    Such a horrible aggression OP, I sincerely hope your brother will recover.


  • Options
    #10
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,068 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Groups of men in their 40's acting like lawless schoolchildren.. fcuking depressing stuff. Hope they're caught soon.


  • Options
    #11
    Killer Wench
    Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    Occasionally, there is someone who says that a crime is a crime and that we shouldn't create a unique class for hate crimes, but what happened to your brother is the reason why we do uniquely identify hate crimes. I am sorry for your brother's pain and I hope they throw the book at the bastards.


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #12
    Stereomaniac
    Registered Users Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    Off with their heads. I was attacked in public before and I was terrified to go outside for weeks. Still the fear is with me.


  • Options
    #13
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Lars1916 wrote: »
    people, witnessing the incident and not intervening :mad:

    Four 9 stone nothing skangers is a lot different from 4 fully grown men. These were in their 40's


    People didn't intervene but I don't blame them


  • Options
    #14
    Red About Town
    Closed Accounts Posts: 257 ✭✭Red About Town


    Killer Wench wrote: »
    Occasionally, there is someone who says that a crime is a crime and that we shouldn't create a unique class for hate crimes, but what happened to your brother is the reason why we do uniquely identify hate crimes. I am sorry for your brother's pain and I hope they throw the book at the bastards.

    Unfortunately 'throwing the book' at criminals doesn't happen enough here.


  • Options
    #15
    LivelineDipso
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 510 ✭✭✭LivelineDipso


    They wanted to have sex with your brother. Homophobic attacks are about nothing else. Drink brings out their inner homosexual.


  • Options
    #16
    Killer Wench
    Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    Red About Town wrote: »
    Unfortunately 'throwing the book' at criminals doesn't happen enough here.

    Under which jurisdiction does the case fall? Ireland or the UK?


  • Options
    #17
    Gran Hermano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    Sure everyone knows those Nordies are famous for their tolerance of all mankind.


  • Options
    #18
    Oranage2
    Registered Users Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    I doubt it was a homophobic attack since they were at his stuff before they knew he was gay which suggests they were up to no good from the get go. Don't get me wrong though they are absolute scum. Hope yous get justice and your brother is alright.

    Edit- maybe it was what do i know


  • Options
    #19
    Death and Taxes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    Killer Wench wrote: »
    Under which jurisdiction does the case fall? Ireland or the UK?

    The UK of course!


  • Options
    #20
    Killer Wench
    Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    WileyCoyote wrote: »
    The UK of course!

    Heck if I would know. There could be special laws in place for crimes committed on trains that go across international borders.


  • Options
    #21
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    Gran Hermano wrote: »
    Sure everyone knows those Nordies are famous for their tolerance of all mankind.

    What, all of us?


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #22
    Thespoofer
    Registered Users Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭Thespoofer


    I'm very sorry Azul at what happened to your brother. I know what it feels like to have a family member with ' vulnerability'.
    I'm so fcuking angry after reading your brothers case, please pass on my sincere sentiments if thats possible.

    Remember for every one of those fcuking scum, theres thousands of us. Mind your brother.


  • Options
    #23
    jenniferalan
    Registered Users Posts: 103 ✭✭jenniferalan


    Im very sorry that your brother op. I sincerely hope those sick individuals are sent down for what they have done


  • Options
    #24
    azul
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭azul


    Thespoofer wrote: »
    I'm very sorry Azul at what happened to your brother. I know what it feels like to have a family member with ' vulnerability'.
    I'm so fcuking angry after reading your brothers case, please pass on my sincere sentiments if thats possible.

    Remember for every one of those fcuking scum, theres thousands of us. Mind your brother.
    Thanks Thespoofer, I´ll pass on your words of support to my brother.


  • Options
    #25
    dd972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972


    Funny how these ''hardmen'' pick and choose their victims, if they're so straight why are they spending their leisure time chasing gays around.


  • Options
    #26
    drquirky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭drquirky


    The f:/heads who did this should be taken out and shot


  • Options
    #27
    Max Power
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭Max Power


    LivelineDipso wrote: »
    They wanted to have sex with your brother. Homophobic attacks are about nothing else. Drink brings out their inner homosexual.
    Shut up FFS.


  • Options
    #28
    Solair
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    That's an absolutely awful incident and I hope your brother recovers soon!

    The Dublin-Belfast train seems to get attacked every now and again too.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0713/north.html

    This kind of thing would just put you off going to the North altogether, especially on an unsupervised train that stops in really rough places.

    Also, that recent homophobic incident has now gone world-wide and you can be sure that it'll cost Northern Ireland and probably the Republic (because people don't always distinguish the two as they're both just "Ireland" in a lot of heads) lots of tourism spending as gay people cancel trips, decide to locate events or business meetings in other places etc etc.

    I mean, if you were booking an event and could pick say Manchester or Belfast, after hearing something like that or about the riots in the city centre, you're hardly going to think twice about picking Manchester.


  • Options
    #29
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,068 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    FionnMcCool87 wrote: »
    Shut up FFS.

    As silly as that poster made it sound; there is actually research to suggest that those who engage in violence fueled by 'homophobia' are in fact uncomfortable with their own sexuality rather than their target's.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/homophobic-maybe-youre-gay.html?_r=0


  • Options
    #30
    KKkitty
    Registered Users Posts: 7,534 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    Azul I really hope your brother will be ok. They saw your brother as an easy target but for witnesses to stand idly by is incomprehensible. I don't care what anyone says there would have been more than 4 other passengers on the train at that time who could have done something but didn't. Please give your brother my best wishes.


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #31
    IzzyWizzy
    Registered Users Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭IzzyWizzy


    KKkitty wrote: »
    Azul I really hope your brother will be ok. They saw your brother as an easy target but for witnesses to stand idly by is incomprehensible. I don't care what anyone says there would have been more than 4 other passengers on the train at that time who could have done something but didn't. Please give your brother my best wishes.

    And what do you think people should have done when faced with a group of scumbags? I probably would have said something but would have been petrified of becoming a target myself, which is exactly what happened last time I intervened in such an incident. What would you have done, exactly? Taken on a group of men? :rolleyes:


Advertisement