Hmv

blingrhino

Are Hmv fcuked? They could not and had not the new box set of love/ hate easily Ireland's best selling DVD in years . When I asked they said they had supplier issues !
At least my local had it in stock .

TheVoodoo

RTE witheld the release to try bolster their online sales, try any shop in Dublin and you'll get the same answer. A few random shops do have it, but all the 'go to' retailrs sold out.

dudara

It's been sold out for ages - quite hard to get apparently

blingrhino

Bought it in cd world drogheda today

roroliam

yes HMV are ****ed. if you got or have vouchers,cash them as quick as you can.

admiralofthefleet

supervalu in arklow had loads of copies earlier

dudara

Posters - please, no scaremongering

dudara

wmpdd3

We got the first delivery of Love/Hate, about 1/3 of the usual del of a new release box set.

That sold out in one day, then it disappeared from the ordering system. Pity, we could have sold a few hundred of them.

sandin

TheVoodoo wrote: »

RTE witheld the release to try bolster their online sales, try any shop in Dublin and you'll get the same answer. A few random shops do have it, but all the 'go to' retailrs sold out.

eh, they witheld the realease cos the series was not over. Doh.

the box set was dispatched the morning after the series finished, was in some shops later that day and mst shops the next day and sold out in most places within a couple of days.

irishbloke77

Dunnes stores in ennis had a few copies yesterday if anyone wants to try tomorrow.

TheVoodoo

sandin wrote: »

eh, they witheld the realease cos the series was not over. Doh.

the box set was dispatched the morning after the series finished, was in some shops later that day and mst shops the next day and sold out in most places within a couple of days.

Obviously.. I made no reference to when it released, rather the the fact they wanted to maximize their online sales by not releasing more to shops. So there is X-thousand sets out their sitting in a warehouse, because of a plan that backfired.

blingrhino

So Hmv per ordered stock is now in rte your saying ?

Procrastastudy

The goto place for DVDs Out of stock at Xmas? No poopie Sherock!

The odd places in the bum hole of nowhere is always where you get stuff close to Xmas.

But yes to be fair HMV are in some financial difficulties. A simple google search is what you're looking for OP.

TextureLikeSun

Lots in tesco in Carlow too

P_1

It sounds like they cocked the order up rather than them being in any imminent financial danger.

I wonder if the order was done through the UK head office who probably underestimated the popularity of the show

athtrasna

Could also be a short ordering issue in certain HMV stores. I was in the one in Dundrum the week before Christmas and was looking for Tiny Dancer, the charity single. Was told they had sold out but more were due in the next day. Discovered after that that store had ordered 25% of the quantity that the other HMVs took.

misterdeeds

blingrhino wrote: »

Are Hmv fcuked? They could not and had not the new box set of love/ hate easily Ireland's best selling DVD in years . When I asked they said they had supplier issues !
At least my local had it in stock .

No HMV are not f..... they are gonna be taken over by apollo management a v strong company so woudnt be worried about the future of HMV :-)

Twoandahalfmen

Series 1 & 2 are in power city coolock for €10 each

castie

A former manager told me all the HMV ordering is done centrally.
They then split out the orders based on a shop metric to see who gets the most.

I was told this around the time the Wii launched and they were saying how their shop was only getting 3 out of a big shipment of them.
With a single ordering point they may have been restricted on amounts which then forced them to distribute less to each store and so they all sold out.

blingrhino

castie wrote: »

A former manager told me all the HMV ordering is done centrally.
They then split out the orders based on a shop metric to see who gets the most.

I was told this around the time the Wii launched and they were saying how their shop was only getting 3 out of a big shipment of them.
With a single ordering point they may have been restricted on amounts which then forced them to distribute less to each store and so they all sold out.

They never had the box set at Christmas at all - ever . ( love/ hate )

jack presley

misterdeeds wrote: »

No HMV are not f..... they are gonna be taken over by apollo management a v strong company so woudnt be worried about the future of HMV :-)

Things have changed unfortunately. Apollo not now interested in taking over HMV

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/14/us-hmv-apollo-idUSBRE90D0SA20130114

And from RTE's twitter feed, "Music retailer HMV is reportedly set to call in administrators tomorrow morning"

Mr Cumulonimbus

Also on RTE's news website.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0114/hmv-set-to-call-in-administrators-report.html

Unfortunate news for staff there.

Whats the story with gift vouchers now I wonder? Will they be accepting them tomorrow?

Mushy

Mr Cumulonimbus wrote: »

Also on RTE's news website.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0114/hmv-set-to-call-in-administrators-report.html

Unfortunate news for staff there.

Whats the story with gift vouchers now I wonder? Will they be accepting them tomorrow?

Somebody on AH has said they wont be accepted.

Dilbert75

Mushy wrote: »

Somebody on AH has said they wont be accepted.

Balls. Received one for Christmas - didn't get to use it yet.

athtrasna

Dilbert75 wrote: »

Balls. Received one for Christmas - didn't get to use it yet.

Hopefully it was bought on a credit card and they can do a chargeback. I'd already bought one before the warning posts went up in December. I warned the person to use it asap after Christmas, really hope he did!

ABajaninCork

Get your arses down to HMV tomorrow! After then, the administrators are not obliged to accept them and you won't get the money back unless originally bought with either a CC or Visa debit card...

And I'm very wary of buying gift cards now. In future I'd get One For All, or buy something a bit more solid like M & S, Debs, iTunes and stuff like that.

Dilbert75

athtrasna wrote: »

Hopefully it was bought on a credit card and they can do a chargeback. I'd already bought one before the warning posts went up in December. I warned the person to use it asap after Christmas, really hope he did!

Unlikely I'd say. Not near a shop so going tomorrow morning is not an option - also the tweeted image of an e-mail instruction from head office to all stores indicates that even tomorrow won't be any good. I may hold on to it in case things turn around.

ThisRegard

The copy of the letter can be seen here

wrexham.com/news/town-centre-shop-threatened-hmv-enters-administration-27684.html

whomitconcerns

vouchers wont be accepted anymore

HMV has confirmed it will not be accepting gift cards or vouchers as the retailer prepares to appoint administrators.

The company confirmed its intentions following a board meeting last night, as exclusively revealed by Sky's City Editor Mark Kleinman.

In its statement, HMV - which employs 4,350 people - said its stores would remain open while administrators Deloitte sought a buyer.

It added that trading in HMV's ordinary shares had ceased.

The statement said: "On 13 December 2012, the Company announced that as a result of current market trading conditions, the Company faced material uncertainties and that it was probable that the Group would not comply with its banking covenants at the end of January 2013.

"The Company also stated that it was in discussions with its banks. "Since that date, the Company has continued the discussions with its banks and other key stakeholders to remedy the imminent covenant breach.

"However, the Board regrets to announce that it has been unable to reach a position where it feels able to continue to trade outside of insolvency protection, and in the circumstances therefore intends to file notice to appoint administrators to the Company and certain of its subsidiaries with immediate effect.

"The Directors of the Company understand that it is the intention of the administrators, once appointed, to continue to trade whilst they seek a purchaser for the business."

"It is proposed that Nick Edwards, Neville Kahn and Rob Harding, partners of Deloitte LLP, will be appointed as the administrators of the Company and certain of its subsidiaries.

http://news.sky.com/story/1038182/hmv-vouchers-invalid-amid-retailers-collapse

Procrastastudy

I suspect any buyer will close the Irish stores. Mere conjecture on my part though. I really think some legislation should be brought in re gift cards, seems every time a company gets in trouble they stop taking gift cards. I wouldn't mind but any company I've ever worked for didn't take Gift card/voucher sales into account until they were spent.

This is why I send cash or a postal order!

Blisterman

Complete disgrace. They continued to sell vouchers to members of the public as christmas presents, knowing full well they're likely to enter administration, and as soon as Christmas is over, before there's a chance to spend the vouchers, they stop accepting them.

How is that not considered fraud?

Jikashi

That's madness that gift cards are no longer accepted, mainly due to the administration not being public knowledge until yesterday. The money has already gone into the company from the purchase of the card, its not like the stock bought with it is being given away for nothing. I know its not the fault of the CAs there but the higher ups who saw this coming should really have made warning to people who purchased cards at Christmas, y'know that gift-giving holiday a little over two weeks ago, to use them sharpish for they may or may not still exist soon, either to buyer at time of purchase or for the recipients in the past fortnight

Blisterman

There needs to be better consumer protection legislation regarding gift cards.
They should make it mandatory to keep the money spent on gift cards in a third party escrow account, which HMV don't get until the card has been redeemed. That way consumers could be refunded if the company goes out of business.

Anyone know if they are bought out by another company, will the gift cards still be accepted? How has this worked for other companies?

RoboRat

Complete disgrace. They continued to sell vouchers to members of the public as christmas presents, knowing full well they're likely to enter administration, and as soon as Christmas is over, before there's a chance to spend the vouchers, they stop accepting them.

How is that not considered fraud?

Completely agree, absolute disgrace. How is this allowed to happen? Its not like these things just happen suddenly and seeing as they decided to go into administration just after their busiest time and during their quietest time means that this was more than likely known in advance.

whomitconcerns

hmv gift cards can be used in waterstones also. Dont know if they are closing too?

RoboRat

Anyone know if they are bought out by another company, will the gift cards still be accepted? How has this worked for other companies?

Up to the company who buys them out... if they want to trade under the HMV name then they would have to otherwise the backlash would be massive. If they change name, they probably wont.

Bigcheeze

Guys from a legal perspective, the Irish company is not under any court protection from creditors....yet. Administration is a UK process only. The Irish equivalent is Examinership. I don't see what legal basis the Irish store have for refusing to honour vouchers. If they can't honour them they should not be opening their doors today and should be applying for Examinership or liquidation.

PopTarts

whomitconcerns wrote: »

hmv gift cards can be used in waterstones also. Dont know if they are closing too?

Can I use my hmv Gift Card at Waterstones and Fopp?

The hmv Gift Card cannot be used in Waterstones or Fopp as the hmv Gift Card is only compatible with tills in hmv stores. Both Fopp and Waterstones issue their own Gift Cards.

whomitconcerns

PopTarts wrote: »

Can I use my hmv Gift Card at Waterstones and Fopp?

The hmv Gift Card cannot be used in Waterstones or Fopp as the hmv Gift Card is only compatible with tills in hmv stores. Both Fopp and Waterstones issue their own Gift Cards.

Sorry just read now that they sold off waterstones last year...didnt realise...

Bigcheeze

Bigcheeze wrote: »

Guys from a legal perspective, the Irish company is not under any court protection from creditors....yet. Administration is a UK process only. The Irish equivalent is Examinership. I don't see what legal basis the Irish store have for refusing to honour vouchers. If they can't honour them they should not be opening their doors today and should be applying for Examinership or liquidation.

A UK administration order can apply to an Irish company under recent EU law.

omega666

so has anyone actually tried to use thier gift voucher and was refused?

Is it possible to do a credit card charge back on it?

Basq

omega666 wrote: »

so has anyone actually tried to use thier gift voucher and was refused?

Someone was refused in the Sligo store this morning.. saves me going in with my €20 voucher so.

Worth a read though!

sweetie

feck, I used a 20e one yesterday and a 5e off a spend over 35e. lucky me!

Bigcheeze

Deleted User wrote: »

A UK administration order can apply to an Irish company under recent EU law.

If this is the case, it would have to be applied through the Irish courts. This has not happened yet.

Newaglish

Basq wrote: »

Someone was refused in the Sligo store this morning.. saves me going in with my €20 voucher so.

Worth a read though!

The information in that link is a heap of nonsense

omega666

Basq wrote: »

Someone was refused in the Sligo store this morning.. saves me going in with my €20 voucher so.

Worth a read though!

feck, is there anything we can do? i've a 120 euro voucher

FraggleRocks

HMV in Henry Street refused vouchers this morning.

ScouseMouse

I have been following this on the business pages. It was predicted for the last while.

I went into the square yesterday and spent my gift card I got last year. I turned to my wife and told her they would be gone in 6 weeks. Lots of staff packing out stock, big discounts on a lot of the stock.

I feel sorry for the staff, the future looks bleak for them. People are going to get badly frustrated and bite the head off them but remember, its not their fault. Customers are going to lose their vouchers and they will lose their jobs.

I would not wish that on anyone at the moment.

Bigcheeze

Bigcheeze wrote: »

If this is the case, it would have to be applied through the Irish courts. This has not happened yet.

I don't believe that is required. A group of European companies I am familiar with were placed under a UK administration order - no further local orders were required. (Except where the local company wasn't owned directly by the UK parent)

Bigcheeze

this could get ugly.

RoboRat

If say you had a €20 voucher and they didn't accept it and you took something to the value of €20 could you fight your case in court?