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tyre pressures...

  • 24-12-2012 10:14am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭


    was thinking the handling was a bit wierd since i bought the trophy, kinda felt tlike the front tyre was squared off, like the front was dropping off a cliff turning in. i put it down to a part worn front and the fact it was a bt10 with a new bt20 rear...... anyhoo i went out yesterday and checked the tyre pressures rear was 39 and the front erm well erm:o 26psi.... pumped it up to the recommended and its transformed the bike:) trouble is i ordered a new bt20 front thats on its way from oponeo.... ah well!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    Yup. Bike tyre pressures aren't the same as other vehicles. They're either right or wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,013 ✭✭✭✭Wonda-Boy


    Aldi are selling digital tyre pressure gauges for €7 was looking at them today...it has a built in flash light aswell. They are for a cages TBH but will fit any storage under seat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭Please Kill Me


    Wonda-Boy wrote: »
    Aldi are selling digital tyre pressure gauges for €7 was looking at them today...it has a built in flash light aswell. They are for a cages TBH but will fit any storage under seat.

    Could be handy alright. Nice one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    New bike or new tyres, I always check the pressures first ~ I never trust anyone tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,013 ✭✭✭✭Wonda-Boy


    Well one thing I learned the hard way....no matter what kind of gauge in the garages (digital or old style) you cant trust them. Most are wrecked and tell you one figure and you check it again its arseways. Especially true of the one in Kilcock.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭serious3


    worst thing is i have a compressor and a digital guage in the workshop....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    39 in the rear seems a bit high?

    I know it depends on bike and all, but unless you have luggage/boxes...

    I run ~32 in in the fzs rear, 34/36 with box full.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭serious3


    book says 41 rear and 36 front, its a triumph trophy 900 so not the lightest of bikes!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,553 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Yeah pretty sure I ran 36/42 on my Trophy3. That's what I run on the Sprint ST too.
    Was the same on the old CBR6 too, even though that was a good bit lighter bike.

    The first time I bought a bike from a dealer (secondhand) I thought it didn't corner that well but thought it was just me and I'd get used to it. Checked the pressures the next day and it was 20psi front and rear, FFS...

    Be careful when buying a pressure gauge, some are pigs to get onto a bike valve, others will fit but will leak air unless you put it on at exactly the right angle, which is even more annoying.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,553 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    kaimera wrote: »
    I run ~32 in in the fzs rear, 34/36 with box full.

    Sounds very low. I see a lot of bikes out riding with underinflated rear tyres. What's the recommended pressure?

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 836 ✭✭✭uberalles


    Some Garrages have computerised air pressure now. Costs a euro though but you set the pressure and it beeps when it's reached the desired setting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭goodlad


    I havent a clue what pressure should be in mine and i have never ever put air into my tyres. Maybe i should look into it...... :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,553 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    You need to get on top of that, your life depends on two contact patches smaller than a credit card.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭KwackerJack


    I run 38 rear on the zx7 and 36/34 front depending on tyre...seems to be the best as far as I'm concerned ;)

    Only thing is the air gauges at petrol stations are never right :mad: So always carry a digital one


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭Please Kill Me


    I run 42 in the rear and 36 in the front on the ZX9, always did. She handles like a bag of spanners if it drops below that. I drop them down to 30 each when I do a trackday, but other than that - it's checked every week and kept at 42/36.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    ninja900 wrote: »
    Sounds very low. I see a lot of bikes out riding with underinflated rear tyres. What's the recommended pressure?
    a quick google

    http://yamahaclub.com/forums/topic/7186-fzr600-tyre-pressures/

    32/36 up to 90kg would be me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,553 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    You were running 32 at the rear. Going to 36 might not sound like much, but a few psi can make a huge difference on a bike.
    Also check out the specific recommendation for the tyre make/model you're using. It might be different than the bike manufacturer's recommendation, but the pressure given by the bike manufacturer is only valid for the exact make/model of tyres the bike was tested with at the time of manufacture. Usually the handbook has 3 different tyre brands mentioned, and the specific tyres mentioned will be either crap or no longer available!
    Also check pressures when tyres are cold - not ridden on for a few hours.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zico


    Having your own pressure gauge is very useful, especially once you figure out what works best for you. PSI can be a personal preference like many things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,553 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Having your own 12V air pump is even more useful, you don't need to ride on your tyres to check and pump them, so you know that the pressure you measure really is the cold pressure.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭goodlad


    ninja900 wrote: »
    You need to get on top of that, your life depends on two contact patches smaller than a credit card.

    I absolutely agree. I need to get my head out of my ass with stuff like this about bikes.

    I just checked with a digital gague and the front is 26 and the back is 25!
    Could this be why sometimes i feel the bike has the handling of a truck?

    Do i go by the bike manual pressures or is there a pressures for specific tyres?

    Doing a bit of googling and its looking like a lot of people run the sv at 36/36


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,282 ✭✭✭BlackWizard


    That's going to feel like a different bike after you pump them ^^


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭Please Kill Me


    goodlad wrote: »

    I just checked with a digital gague and the front is 26 and the back is 25!
    Could this be why sometimes i feel the bike has the handling of a truck?

    Yes, exactly. Would feel more like a feckin' boat though. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    Wanted more info on this topic myself.

    http://www.sportrider.com/tech/tires/146_0206_motorcycle_tire_pressure/viewall.html

    Was chatting to the friends with fzs', bumped up the back to 40psi, front is 32. Had a mild scare that night en route home - full on 2 wheel slide coming off a roundabout before she gripped and drove on. Interesting so it was. Not sure if related to the new pressure or I was just driving harder than usual.

    Anyway, a quick google for RP3 and fzs600 pressures gives me 36/42 on owner fora. Again, it does come down to preference too. Some are saying 36 at the front makes the bike skittish on turn in.

    I'll give it some time and see how she goes.

    also - http://www.motorcycle-tourer.com/touring/products/Tyre-Pressures.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,044 ✭✭✭Wossack


    yea I drop the psi down 1 or 2 on the front, bike is very skittery on the recommended (different tyres then stock though, as per ninja900s post - the stocks were ****e!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭goodlad


    Im hopefully gonna get out for a spin this weekend and will sort my pressures out then. Still have no idea what to set them at though. I will take a look at the tyres later and see what they are and google the make to find out the pressures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    goodlad wrote: »
    Im hopefully gonna get out for a spin this weekend and will sort my pressures out then. Still have no idea what to set them at though. I will take a look at the tyres later and see what they are and google the make to find out the pressures.
    You won't believe the difference. What bike do you have? Just google it. I'd go what's recommended by your bike rather than what's on the tyre.


    Air pressure and fuel consumption are the 2 things for some reason I never go metric. PSI and MPG ftw, tell me a tyre pressure in Bar, or tell me your car does 12km per litre and I have no idea what you're talking about


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭goodlad


    Sv1000s.
    When this thread started i decided to check my pressures and they were 26/25.. Obviously crazy low.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    You'll really notice it then.
    Just a check here:
    http://www.sv-portal.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-1298.html
    People are running it at say 36 front and back, or even higher. Big difference to yours!

    My bike is 32 front and 36 rear. Checked it just before christmas and it was down to 25f and 30r. When I pumped them up the handling changed so much for the better, bike just dropped nicely into bends.
    Reason I they went down so low was cos last few times I checked them there was no change, so I let it go for ages before checking again. Not doing that again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,282 ✭✭✭BlackWizard


    On my Fzs600 I have 40 rear and 32 front.

    Roadsmart 2 rear and a very old BT56 front.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,013 ✭✭✭✭Wonda-Boy


    Must actually check mine next time I am out and about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭Richard tea


    Lads gonna take the beast for a short spin ( petrol & tyre pressure )

    I have bridgestone battax fitted. It says on the tyre max load front 41 psi cold & rear max psi 42 cold. Whats pressure should I aim for front and rear?

    Tyre pressure is something I have never checked before. Its going to be cold when I leave the house in the early hours of the morning so I want the tyres at the correct pressure. In case it makes a difference the bike is a 94 cb400 sf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,013 ✭✭✭✭Wonda-Boy


    Well if you have no way of checking them, I would be aiming for 34-36 psi in the front and 38-40 psi in the back....to see how you go. You deffo dont want a soft front thats for sure.

    Have a look at the chart below and the make and model off the tyre and you should get sorted Joe.

    http://www.bridgestone.com/products/motorcycle_tires/products/category/index.html


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭KamiKazi


    In this cold I'd go for something softer, 32F 34R maybe. Need the tyre to flex a bit more than usual to help it heat up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭Richard tea


    Thanks lads. Typical the air machine would be getting serviced as I turned up. Ill check them tomorrow. Jasus I really need to blow off the cobwebs. It felt like day one on the bike again today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭Please Kill Me


    Thanks lads. Typical the air machine would be getting serviced as I turned up. Ill check them tomorrow. Jasus I really need to blow off the cobwebs. It felt like day one on the bike again today.

    Is that the one in the Topaz? They're a disaster over there!!

    Might give you a shout in the next couple of weeks. Gonna transfer the insurance onto her Super Four and get back on two wheels again. It'll be like day 1 for me too, and super nervous after the accident. :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭Xaime


    ninja900 wrote: »
    You need to get on top of that, your life depends on two contact patches smaller than a credit card.

    Never a truer word said


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,013 ✭✭✭✭Wonda-Boy


    Joe,

    Get an analouge tyre pressure gauge I dont trust them "cheap" digital ones. Most motor factors would have them but might be cheaper of horsepower around the corner from you. Most of the air units in the garages are fooked TBH, so at least you can stick the air in and gauge it yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭Richard tea


    Is that the one in the Topaz? They're a disaster over there!!

    Might give you a shout in the next couple of weeks. Gonna transfer the insurance onto her Super Four and get back on two wheels again. It'll be like day 1 for me too, and super nervous after the accident. :o


    Yeah it was the topaz. Some bloke servicing it as I pulled in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭Richard tea


    Wonda-Boy wrote: »
    Joe,

    Get an analouge tyre pressure gauge I dont trust them "cheap" digital ones. Most motor factors would have them but might be cheaper of horsepower around the corner from you. Most of the air units in the garages are fooked TBH, so at least you can stick the air in and gauge it yourself.


    Will do Gar, Tyre pressure is not something I paid too much attention to so far but I have read alot recently that a + or - in the psi can make a major difference to handling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Mr Sheen!


    Will do Gar, Tyre pressure is not something I paid too much attention to so far but I have read alot recently that a + or - in the psi can make a major difference to handling.

    Better believe it. More important than petrol.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,013 ✭✭✭✭Wonda-Boy


    More important then a set of Huckleberry finn braces to hold the jocks up too....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭goodlad


    I finally sorted mine after realizing they were 26f and 25b.
    They were put at 36/36 and the difference was nothing short of amazing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Mr Sheen!


    goodlad wrote: »
    I finally sorted mine after realizing they were 26f and 25b.
    They were put at 36/36 and the difference was nothing short of amazing.

    Are you talking about your braces or tyres . . . :rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭goodlad


    Long live the braces!! :p:p

    I actually sport my braces daily, lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭Richard tea


    Wonda-Boy wrote: »
    Joe,

    Get an analouge tyre pressure gauge I dont trust them "cheap" digital ones. Most motor factors would have them but might be cheaper of horsepower around the corner from you. Most of the air units in the garages are fooked TBH, so at least you can stick the air in and gauge it yourself.


    Got an analogue gauge one today. Ill pop it on the tyres tomorrow and see what she says.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭Richard tea


    My front is 25 psi and the rear is 31 psi. That gauge is very handy Wonda


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,013 ✭✭✭✭Wonda-Boy


    Thats too soft Joe, You wanna check it out in the hynes manual or online.....cant be right 25 psi in the front.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,013 ✭✭✭✭Wonda-Boy


    My front is 25 psi and the rear is 31 psi. That gauge is very handy Wonda

    Where you get it Joe and how much?

    What type of unit is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭Richard tea


    Wonda-Boy wrote: »
    Thats too soft Joe, You wanna check it out in the hynes manual or online.....cant be right 25 psi in the front.


    Ah no, thats the reading of it now. I have to bring it to the garage to inflate it. Im gonna try 32 in the front and 36 in the rear. Roll on payday so I can pick up the parts to service it. It was a cheapo gauge from ebay.

    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/CAR-TYRE-PRESSURE-GAUGE-METER-ANALOGUE-/271158216182?pt=UK_Air_Tools_and_Compressors&hash=item3f224a05f6

    Dont laugh. It does the job:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,013 ✭✭✭✭Wonda-Boy


    Good stuff that will do the job.

    Let me know when you are doing the service Joe and we will give ya a hand....thats if you have any boike left with that DAWG of yours.


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