Does Ireland need a messiah-like leader.

Prometheus

Could one strong, almost dictator-like individual, save this country and more importantly would you be willing to support him or her in whatever harsh decisions that needed to be done.
By messiah I mean charismatic and not in anyway religious.

Pompey Magnus

Could he sort out the pothole outside my house?

Sunnyisland

Jesus christ.

barney 20v

Angela Merkle

Peregrine

I'd never support one person to lead any country

Strawberry Fields

Na Na Na Na Na Na Leader

chughes

Nidge

nlgbbbblth

Someone like Jim Jones would be cool.

DrumSteve

Gerry Adams.

Fr_Dougal

You spelt messer wrong.

mikemac1

Michael Lowry

nlgbbbblth

Check out Jim's crazy tape

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaDGrMeohEs

3ndahalfof6

No Ireland is fooked, it will take the pain of people struggling, only to realize they fooked up, you defend yourself, move.

Shryke

Petca4 wrote: »

Could one strong, almost dictator-like individual, save this country and more importantly would you be willing to support him or her in whatever harsh decisions that needed to be done.
By messiah I mean charismatic and not in anyway religious.

You shouldn't have used the word messiah then. Why would you use the word when you know it'll be taken up wrong? You even had to add a bit at the end to try and explain yourself. Shocking stuff.
Anyway, you'd need someone with the power of God to actually do anything with this place. It's deckchairs on the Titanic I'm afraid. And what was the moral of the story there? The cook got drunk and swam for it, he made it too, although pretty much all the men died. Stalin. He'd get things moving, just not in the right direction.
I think a conman would do well, someone who could steal us a lot of money and stop sending it all away from our shores.
Docu on Reagan on 2. That lad was shook with Alzheimers while in office. Not him.

Pottler

We need a strong leader with a clear cut, suspicious world view, cute as a button and sporting a funny little 'tache. Sort of an uber Willie O'Dee. There would also need to be salutes, funny walks and uniforms. Declaring an easily won war would be useful to boost industrial output. We could invade Leitrim. There might be a few practical details to be ironed out, but I think that's the correct recipe.

Grayson

Sorry for bring godwins into it so early but... That was the nazi idea. They thought democracy is fecked up. There were too many parties, too much bickering and too much special interest groups.
But one man, who knew what he was doing, would be far more effective than a political party.

Every culture has an ancient version of it. We had Fionn Mac Cool. The English had King Arthur. The jews had this mythical son of David guy.

Nearly every culture has a myth about the perfect ruler.

Skid

chughes wrote: »

Nidge

He's not the Messiah - he's a very naughty boy.

Peregrine

Grayson wrote: »

Sorry for bring godwins into it so early but... That was the nazi idea. They thought democracy is fecked up. There were too many parties, too much bickering and too much special interest groups.
But one man, who knew what he was doing, would be far more effective than a political party.

Every culture has an ancient version of it. We had Fionn Mac Cool. The English had King Arthur. The jews had this mythical son of David guy.

Nearly every culture has a myth about the perfect ruler.

Yep and it always ended in tears. It's unbelievable that people are still exploring the idea.

goose_gladwell

ronald reagan type figure

great man to engender confidence and a can do attitude

Nervous Nigel

Michael McDowell

goose_gladwell

Nervous Nigel wrote: »

Michael McDowell

lacks the common touch

golden lane

you don't have to be religious to be a messiah......

just bring back the people that wrecked the economy......get him to tell all the people that he did it to make them rich......tell them that i was his fault that they all had a great time, bought big houses, had loads of holidays abroad, and all the time it was on borrowed money.....

they will all get embarrassed, stop blaming everybody else.......and then get on with sensible things..like not paying civil servants ridicilous wages and pensions.......

there......a proper messiah....

WoollyRedHat

Ireland needs someone who is actually qualified in the area in which they are working in.

We need not politicans who will bow to pressure groups who in turn will serve them. We need not politicans who are compeltely against change.
We need not politicans who try to control their people and instill their own morals onto them.
We need not politicans who require several advisers with huge salaries, to tell the politicans what to do. We need not politicians who only have their own interests in mind, we need not politicans who serve the political party or their own constituncies, to the disreguard to the country , we need not politicans who are in the pockets of outside individuals, we need not politicians who are overpaid and unaccountable, in short we need not politicans.

Pherekydes

Bertie Ahern!

Let's crucify him!

scrubber72

Okay but just don't call me sir. I hate that.

RobbingBandit

Pherekydes wrote: »

Bertie Ahern!

Let's crucify him!

CAN WE, CAN WE PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE.

mf240

Our future dictator (messiah is a bit last century)

http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/530364_425145227504197_290460610_n.jpg

Rayne Wooney

We already have a messiah-like leader

washman3

Nervous Nigel wrote: »

Michael McDowell

One of the main reasons we're in the **** in the first place.!!
Even has the brass neck to still speak on TV. :mad:

shedweller

I do believe there are laws against organising riots and other such activities. Thats why things will always be as they are. Always.

woodoo

Nervous Nigel wrote: »

Michael McDowell

He would wipe his arse with the working classes.

goose_gladwell

woodoo wrote: »

He would wipe his arse with the working classes.

so , the working classes have plenty of political representation in this country

Dravokivich

I'll do it, I'll finally get rid of that poxy no drink on good friday thing too.

dd972

Petca4 wrote: »

Could one strong, almost dictator-like individual, save this country and more importantly would you be willing to support him or her in whatever harsh decisions that needed to be done.
By messiah I mean charismatic and not in anyway religious.

I'd like to think that at some point we'll evolve to a point where we don't need leaders or being led and we could have some system based on mutual cooperation, anarchy in it's truest and healthiest form.

SEPT 23 1989

Michael O' Leary

bnt

It's deja vu all over again!

syklops

3ndahalfof6 wrote: »

No Ireland is fooked,

Have you been in a shop in the past week. Ive not seen any sign of a recession. I went looking for a Samsung Tablet only to be told they were sold out and wouldn't have any before Christmas.

Every other shop Ive been in has had queues. Everytime I look at an ATM there are people queuing at it. I've been away for a few years and been listening to RTE's doom and gloom updates. The reality seems very different.

No Ireland does not need a messiah like leader. The ones we have are not doing too bad to be honest. Just encourage people around you to do less moaning, and less poor-mouthing.

Cue the vitriol.

feargale

Petca4 wrote: »

Could one strong, almost dictator-like individual, save this country and more importantly would you be willing to support him or her in whatever harsh decisions that needed to be done.

If he's a dictator he wont need my support - unless the whole army goes on the beer the same night!

EoghanIRL

Gerry adams

feargale

Grayson wrote: »

Sorry for bring godwins into it so early but... That was the nazi idea. They thought democracy is fecked up. There were too many parties, too much bickering and too much special interest groups.

Yes, and too many people. They're like goats - can't ever all go in the same direction. You'd have to cull them - the people, I mean.

But one man, who knew what he was doing, would be far more effective than a political party.

Ever hear that song "Four Wheels on my Wagon?" I love that line, "Quiet, woman, I know what I'm doin'. "

feargale

Grayson wrote: »

Every culture has an ancient version of it. We had Fionn Mac Cool. The English had King Arthur. The jews had this mythical son of David guy.

I wouldn't favour bringing back Fionn Mac Cool. He wasn't a Catholic. Funky name though!

Nearly every culture has a myth about the perfect ruler.

Pol Pot is your only man!

Headshot

We need Muhammad but he cant be seen without his bear costume

Nervous Nigel

washman3 wrote: »

One of the main reasons we're in the **** in the first place.!!
Even has the brass neck to still speak on TV. :mad:

Not at all.

It's the working class and the unions that have done most to wreck the country. It's idiocy like benchmarking and the SIPTU clowns that make uneducated unskilled people think that they should earn €40k per annum.

This country will never recover until someone has the guts to crush the unions. Somebody needs to burn the Croke Park agreement and take on the wasters in the public sector.

Michael McDowell is the man to do it.

No doubt we'll be stuck with the usual at the helm - Failed primary school teachers.

philologos

Petca4 wrote: »

Could one strong, almost dictator-like individual, save this country and more importantly would you be willing to support him or her in whatever harsh decisions that needed to be done.
By messiah I mean charismatic and not in anyway religious.

Ireland already has a Messiah, as does the whole world. His name's Jesus

Cee-Jay-Cee

We already have one, Enda Kenny.



We should now crucify him.

Lemonperv

goose_gladwell wrote: »

lacks the common touch

I beg to differ

Aquarius34

philologos wrote: »

Ireland already has a Messiah, as does the whole world. His name's Jesus

I seriously hope that was sarcastic.

If not...........We may as well just stand in horror.

Czarcasm

Prometheus wrote: »

Could one strong, almost dictator-like individual, save this country and more importantly would you be willing to support him or her in whatever harsh decisions that needed to be done.
By messiah I mean charismatic and not in anyway religious.

I would have to say no. We just need somebody at the helm who isn't a complete gobshìte. I haven't seen that person in any of our representative TDs, all far too busy feathering their own nests.

Even the inspiration of one person couldn't turn around the fortunes of a country overnight, just look at how America has fared under Obama- it's gotten worse, much worse, the country is fast going down the shìtter while he spouts populist soundbites for the approval of the electorate.

Enda Kenny (who I affectionately refer to as "Kenny- the shark with no bite!") tried the same over here only his and his governments hypocrisy is a bit more obvious. Same goes for Gilmore (affectionately- "Gimme more!"), and Noonan ("Smirking little shìte, morning noonan night"). This incompetent and unholy trinity are charged with the job of economic recovery and tbh I wouldn't put them in charge of collecting the 20c when you go to spend a penny in a shopping centre. The math is clearly above their comprehension and has been for years.

They'll stick it out bare-faced until they get kicked out, and then the country will REALLY head into meltdown- nobody wants FG/LAB, nobody wants to see FF get back in again, and SF and the Greens god love them but they wouldn't know what to do with themselves if they actually by some stretch of impossibility ever gained enough votes to form a government!

I don't know what the answer is tbh, but under the current system- long may the cronyism continue!

dermiek

We had a "buddha" type leader in Brian Cowen but got rid of him....

neemish

Pighead. Most definitely Pighead

Ishmael

philologos wrote: »

Ireland already has a Messiah, as does the whole world. His name's Jesus Brian

And he is a very naughty boy!