What really obvious thing have you only just realised?

IvyTheTerrible

seanaway wrote: »

Em.. explain further please..."Pumpkins were always orange in the European languages, because they were brought from the New World"

So if I understand your point: a thing brought form the Americas was called ORANGE because it was from the Americas????If this very weak assumption is in fact true then we have all been smoking 'orange' and not tobacco. Eating orange chips not potato chips. Can't even begin to word eating oranges (tomatoes) and not Oranges (oranges )

As New Home said, I meant the colour has always been orange because pumpkins were brought from the New World, and so arrived in Europe after the word orange for the colour was coined.

runawaybishop

languagenerd wrote: »

The same thing happened to "orange". The Persian was "naranj", which became "naranja" in Spanish and "norange" in French. Then the n was lost because "une norange" sounds the same as "une orange" in French and "a norange" sounds like "an orange" in English.

[living up to my username here but shh]

The word norange was not used, ever,in English, it was always orange. The rebracketting came from the old french alright.

NIMAN

Watching RTE and Sky News over the last few hours, they really love it when people are suffering. It's great material for them.

The flooding and storms of the last 48hrs has been manna from heaven for them

They love it.

Hammer89

Inspired by this quote in another thread:

PTH2009 wrote: »

When my ex ****ed off in 2013 I was told all this **** 'it wasn't meant to be', plenty of fish in the sea', a new beginning etc and it got me nowhere only giving me false hope. She's with someone now where my life has gone to ****.

These people probly suffer with bigger depression behind closed doors than permanent sufferers

I honest to god never clocked that the website Plenty of Fish is actually a reference to the 'plenty of fish in the sea' adage'. Amazing.

Mesrine65

Orange (n.)

c. 1300, of the fruit, from Old French orange, orenge (12c., Modern French orange), from Medieval Latin pomum de orenge, from Italian arancia, originally narancia (Venetian naranza), alteration of Arabic naranj, from Persian narang, from Sanskrit naranga-s .

Not used as a colour word until 1540s.

maudgonner

Hammer89 wrote: »

Inspired by this quote in another thread:



I honest to god never clocked that the website Plenty of Fish is actually a reference to the 'plenty of fish in the sea' adage'. Amazing.

And Tinder got it's name because it was originally called Matchbox (much better name). They had to change it, so they looked it up in a Thesaurus and came up with Tinder.

OKCupid, however, doesn't seem like the most confidence inspiring name for a dating website. "Sign up with me! I'm not a SuperCupid, I'm not even a VeryGoodCupid, I'm just moderately successful at finding people love - I'm an OKCupid."

Hammer89

I think Tinder is actually Latin for 'rotten' mate.

New Home

I've always read OKCupid as 'Ok, Cupid, let's see what you can do'.

seanaway

maudgonner wrote: »

And Tinder got it's name because it was originally called Matchbox (much better name). They had to change it, so they looked it up in a Thesaurus and came up with Tinder.

OKCupid, however, doesn't seem like the most confidence inspiring name for a dating website. "Sign up with me! I'm not a SuperCupid, I'm not even a VeryGoodCupid, I'm just moderately successful at finding people love - I'm an OKCupid."

Why the FUC* can't people in Ireland tell the difference between when to use *its* and *it's* ????????

I wouldn't mind but most of the time it's 50/50...so it's not like people don't even know that sometimes it's *its* and sometimes it's *it's*.


Ditto using roundabouts..... MODS....PLEASE ban anyone who can't use '

Please.....??????

Capt'n Midnight

I used to think it was "out in the sticks" you know primeval forests and wilderland n' stuff

turned out it was Styx the river of the underworld , the one with that ferryman

seanaway

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

I used to think it was "out in the sticks" you know primeval forests and wilderland n' stuff

turned out it was Styx the river of the underworld , the one with that ferryman

Jayz, ! Wouldn't you just hate to be stuck in all eternity with Chris De Burgh??? Even the Vikings didn't think that a fit punishment

seanaway

seanaway wrote: »

Why the FUC* can't people in Ireland tell the difference between when to use *its* and *it's* ????????

I wouldn't mind but most of the time it's 50/50...so it's not like people don't even know that sometimes it's *its* and sometimes it's *it's*.


Ditto using roundabouts..... MODS....PLEASE ban anyone who can't use '

Please.....??????

Oh hai there. Bans you say?

You might like to have a read of our charter. I've just had a read of it there. Doesn't seem to mention bans for using an apostrophe incorrectly. It does say this though.....

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Not everybody is as perfect as you are. Some people have learning difficulties. Some people are dyslexic. Some people are stupid and finally some people just don't care about their spelling and grammar. It's not your job to police them.

If someone is an established user and their spelling/grammar is not great, they have probably had it brought to their attention many times before. There is no need to highlight it again.

Feel free to report any posts that may need moderator attention. (lazy use of txt spk for example).

Still want us to apply bans?

That's a rhetorical question btw

Capt'n Midnight

seanaway wrote: »

Jayz, ! Wouldn't you just hate to be stuck in all eternity with Chris De Burgh??? Even the Vikings didn't think that a fit punishment

Reminded me of this bit from Flann O'Brien

The Irish language
‘A lady lecturing on the Irish language drew attention to the fact (I mentioned it myself as long ago as 1925) that while the average English speaker gets along with a mere 400 words, the Irish-speaking peasant uses 4,000. Considering what most English speakers can achieve with their tiny fund of noises, it is a nice speculation to what extremity one would be reduced if one were locked up for a day with an Irish-speaking bore and bereft of all means of committing murder or suicide. My point, however, is this. The 400/4,000 ratio is fallacious; 400/400,000 would be more like it.’ (From The Best of Myles, Dalkey Archive Press Edn. 1999, pp.278-79; quoted by Geraldine Cameron, PG Dip. UU 2011.)

runawaybishop

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

I used to think it was "out in the sticks" you know primeval forests and wilderland n' stuff

turned out it was Styx the river of the underworld , the one with that ferryman

Nope. The phrase is out in the sticks and had nothing to do with Greek mythology. Sticks just means trees etc.

Quazzie

Liza Minelli is the daughter of Judy Garland :eek:

maudgonner

maudgonner wrote: »

And Tinder got it's name because it was originally called Matchbox (much better name). They had to change it, so they looked it up in a Thesaurus and came up with Tinder.

Only copped today the correlation between 'tinder' and getting 'matches'.

Also just copped the correlation between 'co-' and 'relation'. A great day is today.

Father Hernandez

Omackeral wrote: »

Only copped today the correlation between 'tinder' and getting 'matches'.

Also just copped the correlation between 'co-' and 'relation'. A great day is today.

:eek:

Omackeral

Omackeral wrote: »

Only copped today the correlation between 'tinder' and getting 'matches'.

Also just copped the correlation between 'co-' and 'relation'. A great day is today.

hogey143 wrote: »

:eek:

Sure the letter I in the Tinder logo is even literally a match! There's also the connotations of having a spark with someone or someone becoming your new flame.

BattleCorp

seanaway wrote: »

Why the FUC* can't people in Ireland tell the difference between when to use *its* and *it's* ????????

I wouldn't mind but most of the time it's 50/50...so it's not like people don't even know that sometimes it's *its* and sometimes it's *it's*.

Its a Pet hate of mine dat peple dont' spell words propreley, and their not able to right the way they was thought in school som of them dont' no where to put they're commas and full stops' they dont' no weather to us colon or anything. UIts like their tick. Your wright to pint this out.

Ditto using roundabouts..... MODS....PLEASE ban anyone who can't use '

One other thing, how would a moderator on an internet forum know if someone can use a roundabout or not? And if they do ban them, do they ban them from boards or do they ban them from driving?

rubadub

seanaway wrote: »

Why the FUC* can't people in Ireland tell the difference between when to use *its* and *it's* ????????

I wouldn't mind but most of the time it's 50/50

I find more often that not the ' is left off when it should be there. The maybe not so obvious reason why is that you have to find it on the keyboard, many people can type without looking for letters but struggle with other characters. And the other reason is since it's a pretty benign thing to leave off, I doubt anybody is sitting there all confused about what someone means if they leave it off.

sbsquarepants

seanaway wrote: »

Jayz, ! Wouldn't you just hate to be stuck in all eternity with Chris De Burgh??? Even the Vikings didn't think that a fit punishment

Depends - would his daughter be dropping by from time to time?:P

BattleCorp wrote: »

One other thing, how would a moderator on an internet forum know if someone can use a roundabout or not? And if they do ban them, do they ban them from boards or do they ban them from driving?

Jesus, nobody knows what they're doing at roundabouts in this country!

Hint people: When going straight ahead, just fúcking go straight ahead don't indicate that you're turning right and then immediately indicate you're turning left once you enter the roundabout. If you're not turning don't fúcking indicate that you are!:mad::mad::mad::mad:

LeeLooLee

rubadub wrote: »

I find more often that not the ' is left off when it should be there. The maybe not so obvious reason why is that you have to find it on the keyboard, many people can type without looking for letters but struggle with other characters. And the other reason is since it's a pretty benign thing to leave off, I doubt anybody is sitting there all confused about what someone means if they leave it off.

I was never, ever taught this at school. I got to college without knowing how to use its/it's properly. In most countries, they really drill the basic spelling and grammar, but here they don't really teach it at all. Given the irregularity of English spelling, I'm surprised that so many people write as well as they do.

FunLover18

sbsquarepants wrote:

Hint people: When going straight ahead, just fúcking go straight ahead don't indicate that you're turning right and then immediately indicate you're turning left once you enter the roundabout. If you're not turning don't fúcking indicate that you are!

Well when going straight you are supposed to indicate left after the first exit but indicating right is wrong.

New Home

LeeLooLee wrote: »

I was never, ever taught this at school. I got to college without knowing how to use its/it's properly. In most countries, they really drill the basic spelling and grammar, but here they don't really teach it at all. Given the irregularity of English spelling, I'm surprised that so many people write as well as they do.

I think that it the real problem, that even some of the teachers don't know the basic spelling and grammar and therefore do not teach it, and in fairness it should not be happening. It's all well and good if you're making some spelling mistakes while posting something on a forum just for fun, but when you're in a work/'official' environment and you can't string a decent sentence together I do think it's disgraceful.

I should probably post this on the 'Trivial Annoyance' thread...

The King of Moo

FunLover18 wrote: »

Well when going straight you are supposed to indicate left after the first exit but indicating right is wrong.

Unless the 12 o'clock exit is the third exit, which is the case in the last 2 roundabouts I pass before I get home if I drive to work.
It's also worth people watching our for roundabouts where there's no exit straight ahead. I can think of one roundabout where, coming at it from one direction, the exits are at 8, 10, 2 and 4 o'clock, and indicated as such on the sign on the approach to it. But then if you come at it from another road, the exits are at the common 12, 3, 6 and 9 configuration.
God bless Galway roundabouts.

The best way I learned is to forgot about counting exits and think of it as a clock.
Up to 12, stay in the left lane before entering the roundabout, if there are two (unless advised otherwise, there are a few exceptions) and only indicate left after passing the exit before the exit you intend to take.
After 12, stay in the right lane before entering the roundabout, if there are two. Indicate right until you pass the exit before the one you intend to take, then indicate left.
It's the indicating right if you're taking an exit after 12 o'clock that most people tend not to bother with.

pickarooney

I hate when people say they were never taught stuff. If you'd bothered picking up a book from time to time you'd figure it out for yourself.

Way off topic though.

LeeLooLee

pickarooney wrote: »

I hate when people say they were never taught stuff. If you'd bothered picking up a book from time to time you'd figure it out for yourself.

Way off topic though.

And I hate when people make this stupid comment. If you don't know you're making a mistake, you don't correct it. In all my years of primary and secondary school, I was never once told I was using the apostrophe in the wrong way and I clearly wasn't the only one. What's the point in anyone going to school, then, if it isn't to learn and be corrected? I taught myself plenty of things, from musical instruments to languages to IT. I would have expected to have been taught the difference between 'its' and 'it's' as part of my basic primary education, or to at least have had my attention drawn to the fact that I'd picked up the usage of it wrong, but sure aren't you just so perfect and clever? Big gold star for ya.

Ash.J.Williams

pickarooney wrote: »

How come the Dutch royal family's name and the colour are both 'oranje'? Did they adopt the colour because it sounds like their name or call themselves after the colour/fruit?

What colour were carrots and pumpkins before we had oranges?

This should maybe be in the things you always wondered thread...

if i could could back in time i'd bring a bag of carrots and f** that up

Rothko

seanaway wrote: »

Why the FUC* can't people in Ireland tell the difference between when to use *its* and *it's* ????????

I wouldn't mind but most of the time it's 50/50...so it's not like people don't even know that sometimes it's *its* and sometimes it's *it's*.

Why do you think it's only Irish people who do that?

Asarlai

Suas11 wrote: »

Why do you think it's only Irish people who do that?

seanaway wrote: »

Why the FUC* can't people in Ireland tell the difference between when to use *its* and *it's* ????????

I wouldn't mind but most of the time it's 50/50...so it's not like people don't even know that sometimes it's *its* and sometimes it's *it's*.


Ditto using roundabouts..... MODS....PLEASE ban anyone who can't use '

Please.....??????

I'm not sure its 50/50. Thats just you're opinion. Your really only guessing here - their cant be anything definite in you're opinion..

:D