Saturday 22nd December (Ladbroke)

MoscowFlyer

The big question is will the race take place! Still raining at Ascot as we speak and the clerk of the course is very concerned as the ground is already on the heavy side.

Who ya got?

Big Daddy Cool

Cause of Causes e/w

3ndahalfof6

if it goes ahead

RATTAN 16/1 PRINCETON PLAINS 25/1

MoscowFlyer

I've went for the kill early. Able Deputy in the first at Haydock. 2/1 FAV, please win!

prettyboy81

Rattan for me in what will be a mud bath & slog. He has form on heavy ground & the ground today will be as heavy as it gets bottomless!

3ndahalfof6

I did SWISS ART 14/1 earlier.

UrbanSea

Rigidity was second in this last year off a pound lower, just put a fiver on at 25/1

Nulty

I'm tempted by both Double Ross and Bothy.

Overthelast

I did Thomas Edison, but having read a bit on rattan, might stick 5w saver on him.

Backstreet Moyes

2.25 shadow gate Fran Berry going to Lingfield for 1 mount. I presume he is not going for nothing.

Slattsy

Solix here lads.

Although i hate Paddy Brennan.

BQQ

Lyvius for me.
I think Geraghty's picked the wrong one.

Slattsy

Small bet on Hollow Tree here, although i worry it may have too much weight on the ground.

MoscowFlyer

YesYouCan is the one Im on. Stuffed.

Ridiculous conditions at Haydock.

hucklebuck

Two horses I think are massively overpriced are:

Master Of The Hall in the 2:00 @8/1 he is 2 from 2 at Ascot and 2 from 2 on Heavy ground.

Petit Robin in the 3:10 @ 33/1, sure he is top weight and hasn't run on heavy but he seems to have regained his old enthusiasm and he is as game as pheasant.

rossom

I think Lyvius 11/1 in the Ladbroke looks a very good bet. Was very impressed with him beating a well handicapped Edgardo Sol on his handicap debut LTO in pretty facile fashion and I don't think an 8lb rise is excessive at all. Jeremiah McGrath offsets a lot of that penalty with his 5lb claim and off a lovely racing weight of 10-1 I think this very unexposed and progressive 4 year old will run a big race.

I also think its very interesting that Mark Walsh makes a rare trip across the water to ride Thomas Edison 33/1 who showed some really good bumper form but hasn't really gotten it together over hurdles as of yet. A better effort LTO and I've had a small bet on him as well

hucklebuck

Mc Coy is a dickhead, never even tried getting serious with the horse.

Shane732

Only had a small bet on Reve De Sivola.

He was quality in that race. Lovely ride from Johnson.

Shane732

hucklebuck wrote: »

Mc Coy is a dickhead, never even tried getting serious with the horse.

He wasn't going to get near the winner.

Slattsy

Shane732 wrote: »

Only had a small bet on Reve De Sivola.

He was quality in that race. Lovely ride from Johnson.

We dont take too kindly to this here aftertiming in this here place

Shane732

Slattsy wrote: »

We dont take too kindly to this here aftertiming in this here place

It was a fiver win! Let's not lose control of ourselves!

Colonel Sanders

Stayers are a seriously motley crew without Big Bucks. Wonder are any trainers of chasers eying up going back over hurdles?

eg Grand Crus?

Harry Angstrom

hucklebuck wrote: »

Mc Coy is a dickhead, never even tried getting serious with the horse.

You must have been watching a different race from the one I was watching.

Slattsy

Shane732 wrote: »

It was a fiver win! Let's not lose control of ourselves!

Had a 5er on it meself ssshhhhhhhhhh

BQQ

Shane732 wrote: »

It was a fiver win! Let's not lose control of ourselves!

I didn't know about the 5 euro rule.:eek:

Great. I can now come on here claiming i backed every winner today as long as my stake was less than 5 euro. :rolleyes:

Slattsy

Rich Lord here, good ew price at 14/1

Nulty

Colonel Sanders wrote: »

Stayers are a seriously motley crew without Big Bucks. Wonder are any trainers of chasers eying up going back over hurdles?

eg Grand Crus?

Reve De Sivola has always been an under achiever as a chaser. Your not wrong about the motley crew thing but Reve De Sivola is up at the top of that motely crew over timber.

Nulty

Slattsy wrote: »

Rich Lord here, good ew price at 14/1

Couldn#t make up my mind but Quincy de Pictons is attractive, weight a concern

Slattsy

BQQ wrote: »

I didn't know about the 5 euro rule.:eek:

Great. I can now come on here claiming i backed every winner today as long as my stake was less than 5 euro. :rolleyes:

Did you not get the memo ?

Dont be so cranky.

Harry Angstrom

If Willie Mullins had any sense he'd be aiming Quevega at the Stayers instead of the mares' race, considering the poor standard of staying hurdlers now that Big Bucks is out for the season.

Shane732

Slattsy wrote: »

Had a 5er on it meself ssshhhhhhhhhh

Christ!

Shane732

BQQ wrote: »

I didn't know about the 5 euro rule.:eek:

Great. I can now come on here claiming i backed every winner today as long as my stake was less than 5 euro. :rolleyes:

Fu*k me! I suggest you go back to bed and try getting out the other side.

Slattsy

Shane732 wrote: »

Christ!

I was only joking Shane.

BQQ

Slattsy wrote: »

Did you not get the memo ?

Dont be so cranky.

You called him on it before I did.

Shane732

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

If Willie Mullins had any sense he'd be aiming Quevega at the Stayers instead of the mares' race, considering the poor standard of staying hurdlers now that Big Bucks is out for the season.

It'd be interesting to see Quevega go for it.

Harry Angstrom

Jaysus, Stewart Machin is becoming as non-committal as Peter O' Sullevan. It's fcukin obvious that Cannington Brook won that.

Slattsy

BQQ wrote: »

You called him on it before I did.

I was kidding.

Nulty

Get in Cannington Brook. Have a soft spot for that horse.

Plus I had a fiver on

Slattsy

Backed Hold on Julio lto, but dont fancy him today.

Hey Big Spender so.

BQQ

Slattsy wrote: »

I was kidding.

I would have ignored it, but you brought it up and the subsequent ridiculous justification pushed me over the edge.

Hulk Hands

Olofi for me here, should be favorite imo

Slattsy

Its a Gimme
&
Princeton Plains ew

RichieLawlor

Nulty wrote: »

Reve De Sivola has always been an under achiever as a chaser. Your not wrong about the motley crew thing but Reve De Sivola is up at the top of that motely crew over timber.

And BB beat him out of sight the last day. The even money we were able to snaffle for Cheltenham the last two years will go done in history I think.

In other news I've decided Double Ross will win the ladbroke

Hulk Hands

RichieLawlor wrote: »

And BB beat him out of sight the last day. The even money we were able to snaffle for Cheltenham the last two years will go done in history I think.

The worst was the first (his 2nd WH) season. He had zero opposition and they still layed 11/10 on the day. At least the following season he was up against a potential superstar in Grand Crus, and last year Nicholls had a shocking festival up to that point. Ridiculous offerings in all 3 years basically

3ndahalfof6

so as I was saying I think cause of causes has a great chance in this one at a nice price.

Big Daddy Cool

Big Daddy Cool wrote: »

Cause of Causes e/w

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Nulty

I was totally put off by the price of Cause Of Causes. Wrote him off because of it.

ft9

Nulty wrote: »

I was totally put off by the price of Cause Of Causes. Wrote him off because of it.

Had 6 euro on him myself

Slattsy

ft9 wrote: »

Had 6 euro on him myself

Oi ! The aftertiming threshold is 5 quid, jog on now :P

hucklebuck

Shane732 wrote: »

He wasn't going to get near the winner.

It's hard to know when the jockey can't be bothered, he definitely would have placed.

hucklebuck

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

You must have been watching a different race from the one I was watching.

Suggest you look again, a couple of gentle tips of the reigns and he dropped him out the back. A horse being driven passed him and he never got serious with the horse.