Sandy hook ref in batman movie + father caught 'acting'

Juicee

The reference to sandy hook in the batman movie:
http://theintelhub.com/2012/12/18/this-is-insane-coordinates-for-sandy-hook-targeted-in-batman-dark-knight-movie/



..and very strange behaviour by the father of a victim, apparently 'getting into character'

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=urrRcgB581w&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DurrRcgB581w%26feature%3Dplayer_embedded&gl=GB

..thoughts?

Jonny7

And so it begins..

Zombienosh

the batman thing is so ridiculous. but the acting video is odd....

Tzar Chasm

taken massivley out of context I would guess, I remember being a pallbearer at a greatuncles funeral, as we were waiting for the funeral directors to get the coffin out of the hearse one of my brothers made a humorous quip, took us a minute to regain our composure

humor is a great coping mechanism in traumatic bereavement

as for the batman thing surely there are a fair few placescalled sandy hook in the US

Juicee

Zombienosh wrote: »

the batman thing is so ridiculous. but the acting video is odd....

How so?

Juicee

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

humor is a great coping mechanism in traumatic bereavement

Ok but why does he then need to work himself up into an emotional state for the camera?

Corkfeen

Juicee wrote: »

Ok but why does he then need to work himself up into an emotional state for the camera?

That's assuming that he's working himself into an emotional state. I've seen people laughing one moment due to stress and collapsing into tears within the same breath.

Tzar Chasm

yeah, it seems more a case of working off an inapropriate case of the giggles than anything staged

Juicee

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

yeah, it seems more a case of working off an inapropriate case of the giggles than anything staged

That's a funny take on it

Jonny7

So if this guy is an actor.. then that means either

It's a very weird isolated planted actor in the midst of a terrible crime (which makes little or no sense)

or..

The whole thing was staged.

If that's the case, then all the parents are actors, all the children are actors, all the teachers are actors. Obviously that's a given. The doctors, nurses, and hospital staff also have to be actors (treating fake gunshot wounds) Morgue attendants with fake bodies. Fake burials. All the friends and families of all these people must also be actors. The original inhabitants of the town would be asking who this huge group of new arrivals are.. therefore they must be actors too.

That's one hell of a performance already, and this "actor" has to "get into character" in front of TV cameras, assembled police and a large crowd of reporters. Wow, he's really letting the side down.

Juicee

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

as for the batman thing surely there are a fair few placescalled sandy hook in the US

Thats some coincidence given the link this movie has to the previous aurora shootings.

Interesting that the character puts his finger on sandy hook on the map and says " get a gps on it so we can start to figure out how to bring it down"

Juicee

Jonny7 wrote: »

So if this guy is an actor.. then that means either

It's a very weird isolated planted actor in the midst of a terrible crime (which makes little or no sense)

or..

The whole thing was staged.

If that's the case, then all the parents are actors, all the children are actors, all the teachers are actors. Obviously that's a given. The doctors, nurses, and hospital staff also have to be actors (treating fake gunshot wounds) Morgue attendants with fake bodies. Fake burials. All the friends and families of all these people must also be actors. The original inhabitants of the town would be asking who this huge group of new arrivals are.. therefore they must be actors too.

That's one hell of a performance already, and this "actor" has to "get into character" in front of TV cameras, assembled police and a large crowd of reporters. Wow, he's really letting the side down.

I agree... So how do you reckon it's explained?

Jonny7

Juicee wrote: »

I agree... So how do you reckon it's explained?

Possible reaction to losing a child and being in front of world media. I've personally seen odder reactions at less.

Juicee

Corkfeen wrote: »

That's assuming that he's working himself into an emotional state. I've seen people laughing one moment due to stress and collapsing into tears within the same breath.

Yeah I've seen that in people who are bereaved and stressed but that doesn't look like what's happening here at all... He's clearly deliberately working himself into an upset state in readiness To start speaking to the cameras... Extremely weird

Juicee

Jonny7 wrote: »

Possible reaction to losing a child and being in front of world media. I've personally seen odder reactions at less.

Simply does not make sense if you look at the video

yammycat

Jonny7 wrote: »

So if this guy is an actor.. then that means either

It's a very weird isolated planted actor in the midst of a terrible crime (which makes little or no sense)

or..

The whole thing was staged.

If that's the case, then all the parents are actors, all the children are actors, all the teachers are actors. Obviously that's a given. The doctors, nurses, and hospital staff also have to be actors (treating fake gunshot wounds) Morgue attendants with fake bodies. Fake burials. All the friends and families of all these people must also be actors. The original inhabitants of the town would be asking who this huge group of new arrivals are.. therefore they must be actors too.

That's one hell of a performance already, and this "actor" has to "get into character" in front of TV cameras, assembled police and a large crowd of reporters. Wow, he's really letting the side down.

no, only the parents have to be actors, the surviving kids would be 'adopted' and think everything is real, the doctors nurses and hospital staff would not be actors as the gunshots were real, killing a few unwanted kids is nothing compared to killing tens of thousands for 'wmds', as for people asking who all these new arrivals are thats nonsense i bet you can't name the owner of the house 9 doors down, never mind 5 streets away

Juicee

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

as for the batman thing surely there are a fair few placescalled sandy hook in the US

Here's another strangeness.. The markings on the map in the movie seem to bear relation to the positioning of the actual elementary school and the highway in sandy hook as seen on google earth..

Check out this video and then check google earth for yourself..

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6uGjqW94iFs&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D6uGjqW94iFs%26feature%3Dplayer_embedded&gl=GB

yammycat

'you are a detective now, there's no such thing as coincidence'

from the script, they were trying to warn you but you didn't listen

Jonny7

yammycat wrote: »

no, only the parents have to be actors, the surviving kids would be 'adopted' and think everything is real, the doctors nurses and hospital staff would not be actors as the gunshots were real, killing a few unwanted kids is nothing compared to killing tens of thousands for 'wmds', as for people asking who all these new arrivals are thats nonsense i bet you can't name the owner of the house 9 doors down, never mind 5 streets away

If that's the case what was so hard about "planting" some WMD's in the desert?

yammycat

Jonny7 wrote: »

If that's the case what was so hard about "planting" some WMD's in the desert?

that would have cost money, no point after things have been done, plus it's not like anybody gives a flying there were no wmd's cause yea he was a terrible dictator hurr durr (that we armed and gave billions of support to, shush thats all forgotten now) yea a terrible dictator, terrible terrible dictator, who cares about those long forgotten about wmbs ? wmcs? terrible dictator (shush we didnt boost him to power nor give him weapons and billions in aid, that was long before last week and sure last week is all we care about)

Tzar Chasm

yammycat wrote: »

no, only the parents have to be actors, the surviving kids would be 'adopted' and think everything is real, the doctors nurses and hospital staff would not be actors as the gunshots were real, killing a few unwanted kids is nothing compared to killing tens of thousands for 'wmds', as for people asking who all these new arrivals are thats nonsense i bet you can't name the owner of the house 9 doors down, never mind 5 streets away

i'll have you know that if quizzed on the subject I could name the occupants of every house in the parish

go on try me:D


the way I see it the shooting probably wasn't a conspiracy, the push for gun control that will come out of it is something that many believe is being conspired for.

seriously you don't have to stage, -nutter with a gun goes on rampage- in the states, if the msm is to be believed, or do you believe that all the shootings have been staged

if you want to look at a possible staged massacre take a look at the port arthur incident in australia that led to their restrictive gunlaws

yammycat

Man wearing camouflage dragged in handcuffs from woods behind the school. Nothing heard of him since.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qEoYxqmyAM

Adam Lanza left his AR-15 in the trunk of his car and used only pistols. Since contradicted heavily by other media.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqpjJ6P-NSQ&feature=player_embedded

All victims killed with close range rifle shots despite reports that the AR-15 was in Lanza's car the whole time.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/183651631.html

Lanza's AR-15 is found in his car.

http://fox2now.com/2012/12/14/little-is-known-about-connecticut-school-shooter-adam-lanza/

Victim's father seen cracking jokes at a press conference that he mysteriously called to give a professional quality speech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=urrRcgB581w

Juicee

The reference to sandy hook, (including the correlation of positionings to the school and highway in the real sandy hook) are crystal clear on the 'cylinder map' of bane's strike zones that was released as part of the movie's viral campaign.

http://collider.com/the-dark-knight-rises-viral-bane-shirt-cylinder-map/132574/

http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/THE-DARK-KNIGHT-RISES-Viral-Campaign-Bane.jpg

Hard to dismiss...

Tzar Chasm

just on the subject of the possible second shooter, that may just have been a case of police over reacting
its possible that someone in a woods wearing camouflage and carrying a hunting rifle has a legitimate reason to be there

Juicee

Juicee wrote: »

The reference to sandy hook, (including the correlation of positionings to the school and highway in the real sandy hook) are crystal clear on the 'cylinder map' of bane's strike zones that was released as part of the movie's viral campaign.

http://collider.com/the-dark-knight-rises-viral-bane-shirt-cylinder-map/132574/

http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/THE-DARK-KNIGHT-RISES-Viral-Campaign-Bane.jpg

Hard to dismiss...

So why are those things there in the conspiracy explanation? What benefit does it grant aside from offering another clue for people to latch onto and expose the conspiracy?

Tzar Chasm

fictional school in movie also placed in s**ty position near highway on cheapest real estate available SHOCKER

the more I look at the map of got am the more it seems to me that its sandyhook new jersey they are referencing, y'know with the whole gotham is new York link

StupidLikeAFox

Juicee wrote: »

The reference to sandy hook, (including the correlation of positionings to the school and highway in the real sandy hook) are crystal clear on the 'cylinder map' of bane's strike zones that was released as part of the movie's viral campaign.

http://collider.com/the-dark-knight-rises-viral-bane-shirt-cylinder-map/132574/

http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/THE-DARK-KNIGHT-RISES-Viral-Campaign-Bane.jpg

Hard to dismiss...

Tell me again why the New World Order put hints about their nefarious plans into blockbuster films?

yammycat

ColHol wrote: »

Tell me again why the New World Order put hints about their nefarious plans into blockbuster films?

so ppl can huff haw about how stupid it would be for them to do so, like you are now, and pass it off as tinfoil hat stuff, as you are now

yammycat

yammycat wrote: »

so ppl can huff haw about how stupid it would be for them to do so, like you are now, and pass it off as tinfoil hat stuff, as you are now

So then if the only reason you know it's a conspiracy is because of the evidence they planted, why not just not plant any evidence at all and give noone even a hint of the truth?
Seems a little easier than getting an entire production company involved.

yammycat

King Mob wrote: »

So then if the only reason you know it's a conspiracy is because of the evidence they planted

nope, some things cannot be planned for, like the actor playing the father laughing and joking while he didn't know he was being filmed

King Mob wrote: »

, why not just not plant any evidence at all and give noone even a hint of the truth?
Seems a little easier than getting an entire production company involved.

as before, some things slip, if you plant obvious things pointing to a false flag operation like the things in the dark knight rises (oh such a coincidence there was a massacre at the opening plus sandy hook references in the film) people will say oh ho tin foil hats, also you don't need a whole production company for those hints to the massacre, probably one or two at most

StupidLikeAFox

NWO have planted ridiculous hints to their world domination plans in everyday scenarios in the hope that they will be found and highlighted, thus making the people who found the hints look ridiculous, which in turn gives the NWO the upper hand. Is that about the gist of it?

yammycat

yammycat wrote: »

nope, some things cannot be planned for, like the actor playing the father laughing and joking while he didn't know he was being filmed

as before, some things slip, if you plant obvious things pointing to a false flag operation like the things in the dark knight rises (oh such a coincidence there was a massacre at the opening plus sandy hook references in the film) people will say oh ho tin foil hats, also you don't need a whole production company for those hints to the massacre, probably one or two at most

Or, they offer no evidence at all, and people with say oh ho tin foil hats even more.

You are using it as evidence for the conspiracy. You are saying that it makes the conspiracy more obvious.
But you are also then saying it doesn't make sense.

Is it possible that it is just a coincidence and that people who were going to cry conspiracy at everything are looking for predictions after the fact?

And if they didn't need the entire production company, as they would as those maps where produced for the viral marketing campaign as well as by the props department, how was it inserted? And by who?

Tayla

It's also possible that the shooter saw the reference in the movie and then decided to attack the Sandy Hook school.

Run_to_da_hills

I had my doubts about this whole shooting episode from day one, It resembles all the hallmarks of another false flag setup set up Just like its predecessor at the Aurora. Like the Aurora incident this case is also full of so many inconsistencies and holes it too resembles another piece of Swiss Cheese.



What really got me boiling on this case is when heard an interview from a CT police spokesman threatening to hunt down and prosecute Independent Journalist on social media for coming out with stories other than official lies police reports. This is not at all surprising.... as they don't want the truth coming out!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4CT4boLPrU

This is quite interesting.

1) As yet, we have not seen any concrete evidence that any child died.

2) As yet, parents have not been allowed to see their children. (Photoshopped pictures do not count.)

3) As of now, I have seen only one unambiguous statement from a grieving parent "actor" (Robbie Parker).

4) According to the official story, Adam Lanza was found with his older brother’s ID, and it was not stolen. However, older brother Ryan–who officials say is very cooperative–claims not to have even seen his brother since 2010. Where would Adam get this ID? And why does such use not qualify as a theft?

5) According to the official story, Adam Lanza was wearing a black outfit with a mask and bulletproof vest. Why would he want to hide his identity, and why would he wear a bulletproof vest, if he planned to kill himself?

6) The medical examiner asserts that all wounds were caused by a rifle or other long weapon, and police/FBI say that the school was littered with .223 (rifle) casings. But Adam Lanza was found dead in the school with only handguns–a rifle was found in the trunk of his car. But then he could not possibly have been firing the rifle, and could not have committed the murders. Who did?

7) According to the official story, the killing was tightly confined to two classrooms. But then why were so many children told to close their eyes while leaving the building?

8 ) Joanne Didonato, the principal’s secretary, called in sick on Friday–something she rarely does. So presumably, she must have been awfully ill. Yet she then felt well enough to give an interview. “Of all days,” she said, emphasizing the strange coincidence.

9) The hospital went into lockdown and cleared four trauma rooms, but received only three patients, two of them dead children(according to the official story) and one mildly wounded adult.

10) Why were there such persistent reports that Mrs. Lanza was a kindergarten teacher, and that she died at the school, when the new official story is that she was not connected to the school and was killed at home?

11) What happened to the report that Adam Lanza’s girlfriend and another friend were missing in New Jersey?

12) What happened to the woodsman in a black jacket and camo pants who was arrested and handcuffed outside the school? He actually shouted to parents, “It wasn’t me.” Who was he and what was he doing there?

13) What happened to the dark van or SUV that the police surrounded in the parking lot, or the maroon sedan with a blown-out back window they were on the lookout for?

14) The official story is that Nancy Lanza was a gun collector who obeyed the law. But since 20-year-olds are not permitted to buy guns or ammo or carry guns in Connecticut, why would she give her “autistic” son access to both guns and ammo?

15) Why were parents told on Friday that “if you haven’t been reunited with your child by now it’s already over”? Does anyone imagine that real parents of real children would simply say, “Okay, the show’s over, let’s go home now”?

16) Would real parents of real children really be satisfied with (possibly photoshopped) pictures of their children? Wouldn’t they demand to see their children one last time firsthand?17) According to the official story, 28 people died but only 1 was wounded. The dead included 20 small, squirmy children–difficult targets even for professionals. How could Adam Lanza achieve such amazingly deadly accuracy, in such a short length of time?

18 ) A child asserts that he/she heard someone say, “Put your hands up,” followed by the reply, “Don’t shoot.” This indicates that the police took a suspect into custody inside the school. But if that was Adam Lanza, how did he kill himself after that point?

19) Another child asserts that he/she saw a man pinned down to the ground with handcuffs on. Again, this indicates that the police took a into custody. If that was Adam Lanza, how did he then kill himself?

20) When Ryan Lanza was falsely identified as the shooter, who deleted his Facebook profile and created many others in his name?

21) Is it reasonable for a geeky 20-year-old to carry two pistols and hundreds of rounds of ammunition while wearing a bulletproof vest and a mask?

22) Why did the police say on Friday that they were going to leave the bodies rotting in the school until Sunday, then Saturday morning announce that they had spirited the bodies away in the middle of the night? Perhaps to ensure that the transport, if any, would go unrecorded on photos or video?

23) Why won’t police tell us where they found the Henry repeating rifle, the Enfield rifle, and the shotgun?

24) Did the school have one or more security cameras? What do they show?

25) Why did a police officer specifically mention, on radio, that “they’re coming at me through this wood,” followed by a fellow officer saying, “This is it”?

26) One officer in the school said, “We’ve got one suspect down.” Who was that? Down in this situation generally means in custody(on the ground and cuffed), not dead.

27) Why didn’t Adam’s uncle see anything out of the ordinary in Adam when the two saw each other in June?

28 ) Why is Adam Lanza reported to be a loner when a teenager said (oxymoronically), “[Lanza and his friends] always gathered alone in a corner in school”?

29) Why did police assign an individual state trooper to every grieving family, whether the family wants such “protection” or not?

30) Why are Ryan Lanza and his roommates still in custody, and why are the police pretending that it’s for their own benefit?

31) Is it a coincidence that Nancy Lanza’s brother is Kingston Police Officer James Champion, who lives next door to the former Lanza home?

32) Since the alleged shooter’s father is VP of GE Capital, and (like “Batman shooter” James Holmes’s father) was scheduled to testify at the Senate Hearings on the LIBOR scandal, is there a LIBOR connection to this event?

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/17/questions-about-the-connecticut-school-shooting/#.UNAFO_9hLDY.email

hooradiation

Well, I guess there's one way to deal with the harsh reality that the world is a nasty, brutal place.

Invent a fantasy about false flags because blaming this event, like the aurora one, on shadowy boogymen is apparently a damn sight easier then dealing with the reality that terrible shit happens.

You're welcome to your security blanket, but don't expect it to be treated as anything more than that.

hooradiation

Juicee wrote: »

How so?

Sandy hook has been a location in Gotham since about 2008.
It first is mentioned in the animated Gotham Knight animated series, which is set between Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. You can see it here, it's the southern most island.

So, unless this reference was of an event four years in the making, I think we can safely call bullshit.

Taylor365

Saying it has a connection to batman reminds me of another attack.

Weren't the Twin Towers attacked because it was included in 'Friends' in so many 'city panning' shots of NY?

...could've sworn.

Jonny7

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I had my doubts about this whole shooting episode from day one

Yet like clockwork here you are. In a short while you'll most likely proclaim you are convinced as the list of oddities and false correlations from like-minded brethren increases.

The anti-christ (Obama) who apparently has unlimited powers to kill people and take over countries on a whim, who controls the mainstream media, who is in collusion with the Republicans as they are one in the same - has to orchestrate these incredibly complex, bond villian-esque master plans..

..just to get an anti-armalite bill passed, that Clinton (which anti-Christ was he? are they like Popes?) passed during his term..

and all the while leaving subtle clues in Batman films and 30 year old comic books.

seamus

There's a lot of fantasy here RTDH.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

1) As yet, we have not seen any concrete evidence that any child died.

2) As yet, parents have not been allowed to see their children.

So you're either saying that no children have died, or that the children have been abducted, and other children killed in their place to provide bodies?

4) According to the official story, Adam Lanza was found with his older brother’s ID, and it was not stolen. However, older brother Ryan–who officials say is very cooperative–claims not to have even seen his brother since 2010. Where would Adam get this ID? And why does such use not qualify as a theft?

Well he's his brother. Ryan could very conceivably have left some old IDs at his mother's home before he moved to New York. Why Adam brought it with him? Who knows. When they say "not stolen", the implication is that Adam didn't take it by deception, he just took it from home.
The word "stolen" is really a very minor semantic issue to be getting suspicious about.

5) According to the official story, Adam Lanza was wearing a black outfit with a mask and bulletproof vest. Why would he want to hide his identity, and why would he wear a bulletproof vest, if he planned to kill himself?

Assuming he was planning on killing himself, then presumably he would want to do it on his terms, when he had done what he wanted to do. Without the vest he might be intercepted and killed too early.

7) According to the official story, the killing was tightly confined to two classrooms. But then why were so many children told to close their eyes while leaving the building?

Panic, confusion. The goal is getting the children out as quickly as possible. They're not going to be quibbling over whether the exit route is past any of the carnage. Just close their eyes and get them out.

8 ) Joanne Didonato, the principal’s secretary, called in sick on Friday–something she rarely does. So presumably, she must have been awfully ill. Yet she then felt well enough to give an interview. “Of all days,” she said, emphasizing the strange coincidence.

"Awfully Ill"? That's a large presumption to make. I'm sure most of us have called in sick on days that we're not well enough to work, but would be well enough to get down there if a tragedy like this occurred. Most people who call in sick aren't comatose and dying in bed.

10) Why were there such persistent reports that Mrs. Lanza was a kindergarten teacher, and that she died at the school, when the new official story is that she was not connected to the school and was killed at home?

11) What happened to the report that Adam Lanza’s girlfriend and another friend were missing in New Jersey?

Media frenzy. The first 4 hours of any incidents like these are usually rife with rumour, speculation and sensational reports, 90% of it incorrect or misleading. There's no point in looking back and being suspicious - it can simply be attributed to journalists desperately trying to be first with new information and so broadcasting any old rubbish that they hear.

14) The official story is that Nancy Lanza was a gun collector who obeyed the law. But since 20-year-olds are not permitted to buy guns or ammo or carry guns in Connecticut, why would she give her “autistic” son access to both guns and ammo?

Perhaps she thought he was a good kid and wanted to share her love of guns with him? Why do parents let their children have alcohol? Why do farmers let their ten-year-olds drive the tractor?
It doesn't seem even remotely odd that a gun enthusiast would share that hobby with her child.

15) Why were parents told on Friday that “if you haven’t been reunited with your child by now it’s already over”? Does anyone imagine that real parents of real children would simply say, “Okay, the show’s over, let’s go home now”?

That is an interesting one actually. At some point someone decided that it would be best to tell waiting parents that it's best to assume their child is dead.
It may be some new crowd control technique - an unsure parent will be panicky and unable to listen to reason. But if you tell them the child is probably dead, they will quiet down and collapse with grief. Heartless, perhaps, but a room with 200 panicking adults can be dangerous.

The dead included 20 small, squirmy children–difficult targets even for professionals. How could Adam Lanza achieve such amazingly deadly accuracy, in such a short length of time?

Ah come on now RTDH, this is stretching it, even for you. Children may be small, but they don't move that quickly. At point-blank range an indiscriminate shot into a busy classroom will hit something. Children are far less likely to survive a point-blank shot to the body than an adult, it's a size thing, the bullet does proportionally more internal damage.

18 ) A child asserts that he/she heard someone say, “Put your hands up,” followed by the reply, “Don’t shoot.” This indicates that the police took a suspect into custody inside the school. But if that was Adam Lanza, how did he kill himself after that point?

You're making an assumption that Adam wasn't toying with people, telling them to put their hands up and then shooting them anyway.

21) Is it reasonable for a geeky 20-year-old to carry two pistols and hundreds of rounds of ammunition while wearing a bulletproof vest and a mask?

"Hundreds of rounds", probably not, but easily up to 100 rounds.

26) One officer in the school said, “We’ve got one suspect down.” Who was that? Down in this situation generally means in custody(on the ground and cuffed), not dead.

"Down" in any scenario usually means dead or otherwise incapacited. "Officer down", "suspect down", means they've been wounded or killed. When they have someone pinned and cuffed, they're in custody or apprehended.

27) Why didn’t Adam’s uncle see anything out of the ordinary in Adam when the two saw each other in June?

Cos that was six months ago?

28 ) Why is Adam Lanza reported to be a loner when a teenager said (oxymoronically), “[Lanza and his friends] always gathered alone in a corner in school”?

Well, from what I recall of being in school, "loners" weren't factually always on their own, but are typically kids with a very small group of friends who rarely communicate or make friends with other students.
"Loner" means a child who's isolated, not necessarily one who has no friends whatsoever.

30) Why are Ryan Lanza and his roommates still in custody, and why are the police pretending that it’s for their own benefit?

What makes you think they're pretending? The east coast of the US is right now full of people who want nothing more than to get revenge for what has happened. For many screwed up individuals, this would include killing members of Adam's family or their friends, or simply attacking them.

Bradidup

I am beginning to believe that this was a drill and no one was killed or injured in making of it.

There are far too many obvious consistencies, everything from bad acting, fake crying, being threatened by the authorities not to give any story than that what comes from official police channels.

Wasn't there a drill happening on the run up to 9/11 and on the day of 7/7?

http://wellaware1.com/fairfield.htm

hooradiation

Bradidup wrote: »

I am beginning to believe that this was a drill and no one was killed or injured in making of it.

There are far too many obvious consistencies, everything from bad acting, fake crying, being threatened by the authorities not to give any story than that what comes from official police channels.

Wasn't there a drill happening on the run up to 9/11 and on the day of 7/7?

http://wellaware1.com/fairfield.htm

Well then, feel free to demonstrate these "consistencies" (I think you mean inconsistencies... but it's hard to know).

I'm especially looking forward to how you justify your "bad acting" and "fake crying" accusations.

yammycat

hooradiation wrote: »

Invent a fantasy about false flags because

invent a fantasy about wmds and kill tens of thousands of children so we can rape iraq , fact

invent a fantasy about 20 kids killed to disarm the populace , omg tinfoil hat lol, fantasy fantasy that could never happen

asherbassad

I'd like (perhaps not like....but would prefer) to see some dead bodies.

Not because I'm a perverted necrophiiac. I just like evidence that other people squirm at. I've seen corpses before. I've seen badly mutilated corpses before.

In fact I've seen mutilated corpses that others wanted hidden because (in their words) they wanted respect shown for the "families of the 'fallen' "....even though the families had no problem having the remains shown.

Run_to_da_hills

asherbassad wrote: »

I'd like (perhaps not like....but would prefer) to see some dead bodies.

Not because I'm a perverted necrophiiac. I just like evidence that other people squirm at. I've seen corpses before. I've seen badly mutilated corpses before.

In fact I've seen mutilated corpses that others wanted hidden because (in their words) they wanted respect shown for the "families of the 'fallen' "....even though the families had no problem having the remains shown.

You more than likely won't. see any pictures of dead bodies because there wouldn't have been any to begin with.

If you were to see any it would be just like any other staged Holywood set, the usual props, fake blood, extras, make up etc.


Here's another interesting one,

Obama, comforts a rather happy looking Parker family, all smiles, say cheese in front of the camera.

Notice how quick Obama got over his grief of 20 children being "killed".





"Randy Parker, rear left, stands with his wife Karen as their son, Robbie Parker, left, the father of six-year-old Emilie who was killed in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, speaks at a news conference outside the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Saturday, Dec. 15, 2012, in Newtown, Conn."

Are these the people we can see standing around in the video supposed to be grieving family members?.

This "shooting" seems to have all the same hall marks of that other Aurora fake shootout.

GalwayGuy2

Not because I'm a perverted necrophiiac. I just like evidence that other people squirm at. I've seen corpses before. I've seen badly mutilated corpses before.

In fact I've seen mutilated corpses that others wanted hidden because (in their words) they wanted respect shown for the "families of the 'fallen' "....even though the families had no problem having the remains shown.

No, you've looked at dead bodies (that have a habit of being flown under any flag they can fly under) over the internet and think you have a higher tolerance for atrocities. You really, really don't.

Here's another interesting one,

Obama, comforts a rather happy looking Parker family, all smiles, say cheese in front of the camera.

Notice how quick Obama got over his grief of 20 children being "killed"

That's actually made me very, very mad. Do you have any understanding of grief? I mean, have you ever experienced it? You definetly do not go through crushing sadness every single second, you can feel happiness at getting support from a stranger, remembering your dead child's first footsteps, having a respected President come and pay his respects, have the moment just too much and shut it away so your mind itself doesn't shut down. There are hundreds of reasons why those people could be smiling. We always use laughter to combat sadness, or to remember a loved one, and if you really, really, can't understand that, then there is something wrong with you.

humanji

yammycat wrote: »

invent a fantasy about wmds and kill tens of thousands of children so we can rape iraq , fact

invent a fantasy about 20 kids killed to disarm the populace , omg tinfoil hat lol, fantasy fantasy that could never happen

You do realise that Iraq actually had WMD's right? They used them in the Iran/Iraq war. The CT is not that they were never there, it's what happened to them.

asherbassad wrote:

I'd like (perhaps not like....but would prefer) to see some dead bodies.

Not because I'm a perverted necrophiiac. I just like evidence that other people squirm at. I've seen corpses before. I've seen badly mutilated corpses before.

In fact I've seen mutilated corpses that others wanted hidden because (in their words) they wanted respect shown for the "families of the 'fallen' "....even though the families had no problem having the remains shown.

Sure just pop over there at night and dig up one of the graves. If there is a body, make sure to get a DNA sample that you can compare against the parent/actor.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

You more than likely won't. see any pictures of dead bodies because there wouldn't have been any to begin with.

If you were to see any it would be just like any other staged Holywood set, the usual props, fake blood, extras, make up etc.

So you won't believe there's bodies until you you see bodies and when you see bodies you won't believe their real bodies?

Here's another interesting one,

Obama, comforts a rather happy looking Parker family, all smiles, say cheese in front of the camera.

Notice how quick Obama got over his grief of 20 children being "killed".

Because he's a politician who's job it is to look like he's grieving when he needs to be and look like he's enjoying the company of kids when he needs to be? You know, like every politician there's ever been.

That's not even slightly suspicious. In fact, if you're ever stuck in a situation where people are grieving around children, it's a pretty good idea to try and act as happy as you're able for them. It's common sense.

Are these the people we can see standing around in the video supposed to be grieving family members?.

Do you have any reason to assume they're not? Surely when orchestrating such a wildly bizarre conspiracy, the NWO could at least get the actually actors who've been playing the role of parents for many years previously, to stand in at the funerals and news conferences?


As for the grieving father, I hope none of you ever had or ever will suffer the death of a loved one in a totally meaningless way, but if you do, you'll realise that you simply won't be able to cope with the reality of it. You really will be laughing one moment and crying the next.

Run_to_da_hills

This is another video depicting further discrepancies and contradictions in the case.

A man who cuts up dead bodies is named Wayne CARVER?! WTF :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV3KYBS64R8

stuar

Juicee wrote: »

The reference to sandy hook in the batman movie:
http://theintelhub.com/2012/12/18/this-is-insane-coordinates-for-sandy-hook-targeted-in-batman-dark-knight-movie/



..and very strange behaviour by the father of a victim, apparently 'getting into character'

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=urrRcgB581w&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DurrRcgB581w%26feature%3Dplayer_embedded&gl=GB

..thoughts?

Its a bit strange alright??????????????????????????????

humanji

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

This is another video depicting further discrepancies and contradictions in the case.

A man who cuts up dead bodies is named Wayne CARVER?! WTF :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV3KYBS64R8

Which are the discrepancies that he brings up in that badly edited video?

Run_to_da_hills

humanji wrote: »

Which are the discrepancies that he brings up in that badly edited video?

For starters he seems to dodge every single question that has been thrown at him by the press.

Has he even been to a crime scene before?

humanji

And it couldn't be a mix of him not being authorised to reveal some of the info and still being in shock from having to deal with so many bodies of children? And again, what are the discrepancies and contradictions?