6 year sentence and out in four 1/2 months

Drexel

A man convicted of a sexual assualt and sentenced to 6 years has gotten out in only 4 and a half months

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/75k-sex-attacker-released-at-midnight-after-four-months-3325721.html

CONVICTED sex offender and businessman Anthony Lyons will spend Christmas at home with his family after serving only four-and-a-half months of a six-year prison sentence.

Lyons is due to be released from Wheatfield prison today with remission for good behaviour behind bars.

The owner of an aircraft leasing company, Lyons, of Griffith Avenue, Dublin, was sentenced to six years last July for sexually assaulting a woman on October 3, 2010.

But Dublin Circuit Criminal Court judge, Desmond Hogan, suspended five-and-a-half years of his sentence after considering psychiatric and probation reports and testimonials.

The judge said Lyons had up to then been "of good character" and was "unlikely to re-offend".

He ordered compensation of €75,000 to be paid, not "with a view to being treated more favourably by the court" but to pay something back to the victim.

The Director of Public Prosecutions subsequently applied to the Court of Criminal Appeal to review the "unduly lenient" sentence.

The appeal was due to be heard on Tuesday, three days before Lyons was set for release.

But the court heard that Lyons' defence lawyer was not available on that date and the appeal was put back.

Lyons, a father of four, had pleaded not guilty to the sexual assault charge at the circuit court.

He admitted the attack, but claimed he was overcome with an "irresistible urge" due to the combination of alcohol, his cholesterol medicine, Rosuvastatin, and cough syrup.

The court heard how he attacked the woman as she walked along Griffith Avenue.

He came up behind her and said: "Are you going to get home safely?" He then rugby tackled her into the trees.

The woman cried for help, but Lyons told her to be quiet. He put his hand over her throat and mouth before sexually assaulting her.

The victim hit Lyons on the head with her mobile phone.

She managed to phone 999 during the attack and Lyons ran away when a passer-by shouted at him.

But Lyons left his umbrella behind and was only 100 metres from his home when the victim, who was in a garda car, identified him.

The judge said that the long abiding psychological trauma suffered by the victim was, perhaps, seriously greater than the physical injuries she sustained.

Lyons was the head of aviation company Santos Dumont before stepping aside after being charged.

Unbe-****ing-lievable

Death and Taxes

Whats really unbelievable is that the DPP left it so late to apply for an urgent hearing in the appeal against leniency of sentence that Lyons will be free, and possibley have left the country, before the appeal is heard.

Drexel

I try not to be cynical but cases like this dont help. Is it a case of one rule for the rich and another for every one else?

Duggy747

He admitted the attack, but claimed he was overcome with an "irresistible urge" due to the combination of alcohol, his cholesterol medicine, Rosuvastatin, and cough syrup.

Accepting this pathetic excuse is a mockery of the justice system.

Gringo180

I would have to severley beat the **** out of this man to get some justice if this was done on a girlfriend or family member, utter scum of the earth! What a joke of a justice system we have in this country I find it hard to believe how this judge can sleep at night.

BraziliaNZ

Well the banks have to be paid back at some stage

Drexel

Gringo180 wrote: »

I would have to severley beat the **** out of this man to get some justice if this was done on a girlfriend or family member, utter scum of the earth! What a joke of a justice system we have in this country I find it hard to believe how this judge can sleep at night.

Yup you really have to question what the f the judge was thinking. 4 1/2 months out of 6 years is shocking. Hopefully the DPP appeal is successful and he ends up back behind bars

DipStick McSwindler

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Jarren

and Windows guy got a six months sentence ...

I can't f......g believe it

The_Kew_Tour

Sick...Just sick..

Yakult

Well thats b/s

Death and Taxes

Jarren wrote: »

and Windows guy got a six months sentence ...

I can't f......g believe it

The "window guy" deserved every day of it.
In the case of Anthony Lyons, Justice has not rested in this case as the Court of Criminal Appeal will hear the DPP's appeal against leniency of sentence next week, lets wait for the outcome of that before we univerally declare justice in Ireland to be dead.

IvyTheTerrible

But he offered 75000 euro to the victim, so it's all grand. :rolleyes:

It's a disgrace.

howamidifferent

Who's the windows guy?

Jarren

howamidifferent wrote: »

Who's the windows guy?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056831750

Drexel

WileyCoyote wrote: »

The "window guy" deserved every day of it.
In the case of Anthony Lyons, Justice has not rested in this case as the Court of Criminal Appeal will hear the DPP's appeal against leniency of sentence next week, lets wait for the outcome of that before we univerally declare justice in Ireland to be dead.

I agree. Window guy had plenty of time to remove them so dont have any sympathy for him.

You are right too about waiting for the final outcome but it should never have come to the DPP having to appeal

giant_midget

What amazes me is how can his wife sleep in the same bed as him knowing what he has done? Patethic excuse for a man, My only hope is the victims father/brother/friends beat the living **** out of this "man" every year for the rest of his life. Id be making it my business to make his life hell if i was them...

SEPT 23 1989

giant_midget wrote: »

My only hope is the victims father/brother/friends beat the living **** out of this "man" every year for the rest of his life. Id be making it my business to make his life hell if i was them...

Accidents happen all the time over the Christmas period

DipStick McSwindler

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rob w

Makes a joke out of the justice system in this country, but stories like this don't surprise me anymore, as disgraceful as it is!

DeltaWhite

rob w wrote: »

Makes a joke out of the justice system in this country, but stories like this don't surprise me anymore, as disgraceful as it is!

Totally agree I just think it's madness that nothing shocks me anymore..

That chap is a sewer rat and if I was his wife I would kick the sh*t outta him...

Holsten

Why is everyone so pissed off? What good does it serve to have him in jail? He's been punished in the eyes of the court, he is unlikely to re-offend?

It was sexual assault, not to diminish his actions it but it wasn't rape.

I wonder if sexual was removed would people be still so annoyed.

Madam_X

Holsten wrote: »

Why is everyone so pissed off?

I'll give you three guesses.

I'm not usually a fan of rabble-rousing "isn't this sentence crap?" threads and then people without a clue of the statutes saying what the judge should have done, and maintaining a judge just plucks a sentence out of the air... but in this case, it really does look like Lyons bought his freedom.
And what about the victim? This is not justice.

Drexel

Holsten wrote: »

Why is everyone so pissed off? What good does it serve to have him in jail? He's been punished in the eyes of the court, he is unlikely to re-offend?

It was sexual assault, not to diminish his actions it but it wasn't rape.

I wonder if sexual was removed would people be still so annoyed.

What makes him unlikely to re-offend? The fact that he owns his own company? Thats hes a rich middle-aged white man?

This man attacked a woman walking down the street and sexually assaulted her. You cant just say if it was just assault would people be so annoyed. It was sexual assault.

Would you be thinking the same if it was your mother/sister/niece

Duggy747

Holsten wrote: »

It was sexual assault, not to diminish his actions it but it wasn't rape.

I wonder if sexual was removed would people be still so annoyed.

You could remove "sexual"

But then you'd still have the fact that he rugby tackled her into the trees, put his hand over her mouth and throat, resisting her pleads and her hitting him, and only fled when people across the road spotted him.

charlemont

Money talks, Money talks, Dirty cash I want you, Dirty cash I need you more..

Murt10

Gringo180 wrote: »

What a joke of a justice system we have in this country I find it hard to believe how this judge can sleep at night.

This is the same Judge Martin Nolan that sentenced a man to 6 years for passing off Chinese garlic as apples to avoid paying high customs costs.

I think it's high time that the Dail looked into his removal from office. He is obviously way out of touch with reality


http://www.independent.ie/national-news/appeal-in-16m-garlic-fraud-case-begins-3312123.html

PickledLime

Gringo180 wrote: »

I would have to severley beat the **** out of this man to get some justice if this was done on a girlfriend or family member, utter scum of the earth! What a joke of a justice system we have in this country I find it hard to believe how this judge can sleep at night.

The stuff that you hear on a day to day basis makes me think if **** like this did happen to someone close to me I'd be up for murder as there's rarely any justice served in this country any more, it's beyond a joke.

Which'd be grand as I'd probably get out after a few months anyway.

Odysseus

jonny666 wrote: »

What makes him unlikely to re-offend? The fact that he owns his own company? Thats hes a rich middle-aged white man?

This man attacked a woman walking down the street and sexually assaulted her. You cant just say if it was just assault would people be so annoyed. It was sexual assault.

Would you be thinking the same if it was your mother/sister/niece

I would guess it may be connected to the psych report as well as the probation one, where a professional has looked at this person behaviour; rather than the reasons you state.

Odysseus

giant_midget wrote: »

What amazes me is how can his wife sleep in the same bed as him knowing what he has done? Patethic excuse for a man, My only hope is the victims father/brother/friends beat the living **** out of this "man" every year for the rest of his life. Id be making it my business to make his life hell if i was them...

Why, that is between him and his wife, do we even know they share a bed?

--Kaiser--

He admitted the attack, but claimed he was overcome with an "irresistible urge" due to the combination of alcohol, his cholesterol medicine, Rosuvastatin, and cough syrup.

I'd like to see the scientific backing behind the claim that any of these substances can turn someone into a rapist

Muff_Daddy

WileyCoyote wrote: »

The "window guy" deserved every day of it.
In the case of Anthony Lyons, Justice has not rested in this case as the Court of Criminal Appeal will hear the DPP's appeal against leniency of sentence next week, lets wait for the outcome of that before we univerally declare justice in Ireland to be dead.

The fact that this sentence has to go to an appeal is a disgrace in itself. Are you really saying we need to see how the result of this appeal goes before we can determine whether a 4 and a half month jail term for sexual assault is a just sentence?

DeltaWhite

Holsten wrote: »

Why is everyone so pissed off? What good does it serve to have him in jail? He's been punished in the eyes of the court, he is unlikely to re-offend?

It was sexual assault, not to diminish his actions it but it wasn't rape.

I wonder if sexual was removed would people be still so annoyed.

He came up behind her and said: "Are you going to get home safely?" He then rugby tackled her into the trees.

The woman cried for help, but Lyons told her to be quiet. He put his hand over her throat and mouth before sexually assaulting her.

If that was your daugher/sister/aunt/mother/wife etc.. you would be furious, enraged and disgusted... the cheek of you saying "why are people p*ssed off"

He is a scumbag, same as any other man/woman that commits a crime like that..

padi89

giant_midget wrote: »

My only hope is the victims father/brother/friends beat the living **** out of this "man" every year for the rest of his life. Id be making it my business to make his life hell if i was them...

Yeah that would really improve things :rolleyes:

2smiggy

padi89 wrote: »

Yeah that would really improve things :rolleyes:

you would not mind if he got the same sentence if he did it to a sister of yours ?
rolls eyes etc etc

Odysseus

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

I'd like to see the scientific backing behind the claim that any of these substances can turn someone into a rapist

I could be wrong, but is it not a case that he may have made this claim, [which is sh!te] but I have not seen anything to say this was accepted by the judge or anyone else.

Run_to_da_hills

Meanwhile another guy gets caged 6 years for importing garlic cloves.

Which is worse attempted rape or importing vegetables.

dmc17

jmayo

jonny666 wrote: »

A man convicted of a sexual assualt and sentenced to 6 years has gotten out in only 4 and a half months

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/75k-sex-attacker-released-at-midnight-after-four-months-3325721.html

Unbe-****ing-lievable

If only he had been importing garlic and not paying the duty. :rolleyes:

WileyCoyote wrote: »

The "window guy" deserved every day of it.
In the case of Anthony Lyons, Justice has not rested in this case as the Court of Criminal Appeal will hear the DPP's appeal against leniency of sentence next week, lets wait for the outcome of that before we univerally declare justice in Ireland to be dead.

Maybe you should ask the parents of Manuela Riedo if they consider justice a dead concept in Ireland ?
Or perhaps ask the surviving Carlow victim of larry murphy ?
Or perhaps the son and five daughters of Mrs Nancy Nolan from Ballygar in Galway whose mother was killed by a killer physcopath on day release from Castlerea ?
Or maybe ask the rape victim from Clare who in 2007 had to travel home on the same train as her convicted free rapists, because the fine justive carney handed the rapists a 3 year suspended sentence ?

Ask them if there is such a thing as proper justice in this country ?

Nah people like you won't, you will just highlight these cases as sad occurrences, waffle on about rehabilitation (funny since most of this offenders don't want or avail of it) and find excuses why judges deem it alright to spit in the faces of victims.

If rape victims or sexual assualt victims in this country want real justice they need to look outside our so called justice system.

Kess73

And to think some people seem to take great pleasure in calling the legal systems in other countries a joke.

Nobody living on this island need look too far to find a joke legal system that reeks of either utter incompetence or corruption, maybe both.

mikom

GARLIC

Boombastic

mikom wrote: »

GARLIC

:pac:

Was he on cough medicine too?:D

Madam_X

Kess73 wrote: »

And to think some people seem to take great pleasure in calling the legal systems in other countries a joke.

Nobody living on this island need look too far to find a joke legal system that reeks of either utter incompetence or corruption, maybe both.

Nothing wrong with saying the legal system in certain other countries is a joke, as well as that of Ireland.

mikom

We have space for these hardened criminals though.
They have been raping Ryan Tubridy and Pat Kenny of their wages........

194 TV viewers jailed
Some 194 people were sent to prison last year for non-payment of a TV licence. The numbers were confirmed by the Irish Prison Service who added that the majority of offenders were women.
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/siptu-strike-ballot-3324058.html

Boombastic

This lad also gets out for Christmas


A NOTORIOUS gang rapist who threatened to burn the home of the sister of Euromillions winner Dolores McNamara has been allowed out of jail for Christmas by a judge.

Thomas O'Neill (24) – who led a horrific gang rape in Cratloe Woods, Co Clare, in 2004 – will be freed from prison next week for a fortnight

aloyisious

That's the cost-price of judicial independence, they can make "in your face" and nonsense decisions to the regret of the public and nothing can be done to make them accountable for these everyday decisions. To protect the judicial system here, it might be time for judges to be open to Garda investigation where a judicial decision is clearly "not in the best interest of justice" let alone the "public good". Letting them clean out their own stables has failed in practice.

padi89

2smiggy wrote: »

you would not mind if he got the same sentence if he did it to a sister of yours ?
rolls eyes etc etc

Do you really have to ask such a stupid question?

Can you tell me exactly how kicking the ****e into someone on an annual basis is going to help improve the situation? Will it make YOU feel better, how about your sister ?I'm sure she'd love to be reminded of it annually for the rest of her life.

SRFC

Without making a libelous comment i just want to say if anyone on here thinks there was no back handers involved in this case then quite frankly you're head is in the clouds absolutely rancid case it stinks.

JJayoo

Lyons, a father of four, had pleaded not guilty to the sexual assault charge at the circuit court.

claimed he was overcome with an "irresistible urge"

So he believes he didn't sexually assault her because he had an irresistible urge? and the judge lets him out because

unlikely to re-offend"

How can this make sense to anybody?????

charlemont

Boombastic wrote: »

This lad also gets out for Christmas


A NOTORIOUS gang rapist who threatened to burn the home of the sister of Euromillions winner Dolores McNamara has been allowed out of jail for Christmas by a judge.

Thomas O'Neill (24) – who led a horrific gang rape in Cratloe Woods, Co Clare, in 2004 – will be freed from prison next week for a fortnight

This prick is a one man crime wave, And he will get away with a lot more than the average Joe as the authorities can't have April getting angry, Not when they are relying on her evidence against the Dumdum's.

charlemont

JJayoo wrote: »

So he believes he didn't sexually assault her because he had an irresistible urge? and the judge lets him out because



How can this make sense to anybody?????

It makes no sense, Most of us can keep our urges to ourselves or go about it in a normal manner, ie ask her out for a meal or so, But this guy done it in the worst manner possible so he should be inside, Ireland is a small place so it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that he moved in high influential circles hence the crappy sentence he got.