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Joining the French Foreign Legion?

  • 13-12-2012 8:48pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭


    Hi im looking for imformation about the french foreign legion, im only 18 now and only just thinking about it atm. I am clever and am aiming for just below 480 points in LC and Im off to college nest year and i was wondering what type of person you have to be mentally and physically. I belive i am physically fit and able to motivate myself but iv never been in fights and dont see myself as a rough person. iv read stories that its survival of the fittest, dont know its it true anymore?

    I know its ment to be a miserable and strick life and you cant have a phone or a car and your stuck there for at least 5 years.

    I am in the Amry reserve, and i know its nothing like it but i enjoy the discipline,

    I am only considering joining if i do not get a cadetship in the PDF.

    What books or accounts would anyone reccommend?

    Thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭wildfowler94


    Hi im looking for imformation about the french foreign legion, im only 18 now and only just thinking about it atm. I am clever and am aiming for just below 480 points in LC and Im off to college nest year and i was wondering what type of person you have to be mentally and physically. I belive i am physically fit and able to motivate myself but iv never been in fights and dont see myself as a rough person. iv read stories that its survival of the fittest, dont know its it true anymore?

    I know its ment to be a miserable and strick life and you cant have a phone or a car and your stuck there for at least 5 years.

    I am in the Amry reserve, and i know its nothing like it but i enjoy the discipline,

    I am only considering joining if i do not get a cadetship in the PDF.

    What books or accounts would anyone reccommend?

    Thanks

    Stick to Airsoft and use google it will tell you all you need.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭DipStick McSwindler


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  • Registered Users Posts: 311 ✭✭KickstartHeart


    Check your PM's.

    Stay away from the books, they're written with two things mind; 'Impress the civvi's, and have a go at the army that I was rejected from before joining the French Army'.

    Also, if you're in the RDF you won't know much about the discipline that you think you'll like if you become a professional soldier. Being a soldier and a reservist are too very very *different* things.

    EDIT: Spelling mistake changed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,504 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Search on this forum for 'joining the FFL'. It will tell you all you want to know.

    It could either be the best thing you've ever done in your life, or the very worst.

    There is nothing in between.

    tac


  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭airsofter1234


    thanks for replying, i understand most of it im just worried about not being tough enough. i dont mind being screamed at or strict discipline , does anyone reccommend any accurate books that arent legion propaganda


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  • Registered Users Posts: 311 ✭✭KickstartHeart


    You don't need to be 'tough'.

    Just be fit and no when to keep your mouth shut and keep the head down.


  • Registered Users Posts: 754 ✭✭✭repsol


    You don't need to be 'tough'.

    Just be fit and no when to keep your mouth shut and keep the head down.

    Not quite.You will be given orders in French from the word go,even though the officer giving the order may be German or British etc and they know you cannot speak French.You may be told for example to sweep the floor.If you don't obey immediately because you don't speak the lingo,you will get the brush across the head until you get the message.Recruits are encouraged to beat fellow recruits who cannot keep up on long runs .Its ideal if you are a criminal in need of new papers from the French government.If you just want excitement and discipline,I suggest you look elsewhere.I have a good friend who did a stint in the Legion and could not stick it.This guy is a serious hard case and super fit.If he found it too tough,it must be bad.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,031 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    repsol wrote: »
    Not quite.You will be given orders in French from the word go,even though the officer giving the order may be German or British etc and they know you cannot speak French.You may be told for example to sweep the floor.If you don't obey immediately because you don't speak the lingo,you will get the brush across the head until you get the message.Recruits are encouraged to beat fellow recruits who cannot keep up on long runs .Its ideal if you are a criminal in need of new papers from the French government.If you just want excitement and discipline,I suggest you look elsewhere.I have a good friend who did a stint in the Legion and could not stick it.This guy is a serious hard case and super fit.If he found it too tough,it must be bad.

    Right ya, its always a "friend" isnt it.. please ignore this fella, been reading too many books.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,504 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Ithink that it would be a good idea to learn some basic French before you go to enlist.

    At the very least 'Oui, Caporal' would show that you've made some effort.

    tac


  • Registered Users Posts: 754 ✭✭✭repsol


    twinytwo wrote: »
    Right ya, its always a "friend" isnt it.. please ignore this fella, been reading too many books.

    You obviously don't have friends yourself and probably never read books.My friend was a legionnaire and there are a lot of Irish in it.Most legionaires have previous army service.I was giving advice to the OP based on what he told me.What are you basing your advice on?If the OP wants to take it he can.If he wants to wait until he has signed up to find out what it is like,thats up to him as well.They don't have a cooling off period so there is no backing out


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  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭airsofter1234


    Thanks for the replies, I will take your advice. I understand the strict discipline , I read an article an guadian.co.uk about an incident when a trainee died after his corporal wouldn't let him drink. I do French In school , not great but I know the basics


  • Registered Users Posts: 754 ✭✭✭repsol


    Thanks for the replies, I will take your advice. I understand the strict discipline , I read an article an guadian.co.uk about an incident when a trainee died after his corporal wouldn't let him drink. I do French In school , not great but I know the basics

    Good luck whichever way you decide to go.Its a unique outfit.Just do loads of homework before committing to anything.Like I said,the info I gave you was second hand. You might have better luck finding an ex legionnaire to talk to on a UK website as there are a lot of brits in it (most of who would have served in HM forces and left for various reasons).Next time I see the guy I will ask him if he minds talking to you,and if he agrees I will pm you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭wildfowler94


    Study and try for a cadetship or join if recruits open up if your looking for a challenge the DF will oblige, I mean like Selection for ARW, Divers, Recce, Snipers etc, other then that I suggest Brits, Sorry about my previous post... bad day!


  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭airsofter1234


    i will try the pdf first i know they are pretty good and do a lot of stuff.
    Personally i wouldnt join the British Army,


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    What exactly is it that makes you want to serve in the FFL?

    Applying for a cadetship in the PDF and enlisting in the FFL are two very different routes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    What is this, pick n mix army careers? Don't waste someone elses place in the Irish DF if you have plans to swan off to Aubagne.


  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭airsofter1234


    Goldie Fish: I plan on apply for the PDF and would prefere it to the FFL . I have wanted a cadetship since i was like 10 and i plan on staying on until retirement if i get it. I am saying i want to know about FFL because as you know the odds of actually getting into the class are like 1 in 70, and i want a backup plan.


  • Registered Users Posts: 489 ✭✭mlumley


    I have heard Stories about the FFL. The may be "stories" so wont repeat them here, why not join the British Army. If you want some excitement there are a couple of wars going on. Or, after a couple of years, apply to join the SAS, lots of excitement there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭airsofter1234


    Thanks for the suggestion but i am quite nationalist and dont think i could join the BA. I have also heard some stories about beating and a lad died in training lasst year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Thanks for the suggestion but i am quite nationalist and dont think i could join the BA. I have also heard some stories about beating and a lad died in training lasst year.


    Quite nationalist, but you have no problem joining a foreign army other than the british, whose ancestors were invading and pillaging our shores long before the british?

    Thats a bit hypocritical, don't you think?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭airsofter1234


    Legio Patria Nostra (English: The Legion is our Fatherland) is the motto of the Foreign Legion. The adoption of the Foreign Legion as a new fatherland does not imply the repudiation by the legionnaire of his first nationality. The French Foreign Legion respects the original fatherland of the legionnaires who are totally free to preserve their nationalities. The Foreign Legion even asks the agreement of any legionnaire who could be sent in a military operation where his country of origin would be committed.

    from wiki btw(i know its a ****ty source)

    The French didnt shoot protesters on the streets of Derry, they didnt treat us as second class citizens, they didnt colaborate with the UVF and build bombs for them which killed 27 people in Dublin and monaghan bombing, to name a few attrocities. Many irish heros such as Wolf Tone served in the French army and many thousands joined the Irish Brigade http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Brigade_(France)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭wildfowler94


    Ah here stay where you are, i can see where this is going close this thread, the lad clearly been reading to many history books and play cod.


  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭airsofter1234


    i will agree i read history and study it in school, but i dont play cod and rarely play xbox.(dont have xbox live) i am genuinly interest in military life. if i played cod id prob want to join spetnaz or SAS :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭airsofter1234


    Thanks everyone for the advice, it really helped


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,504 ✭✭✭tac foley


    i will agree i read history and study it in school, but i dont play cod and rarely play xbox.(dont have xbox live) i am genuinly interest in military life. if i played cod id prob want to join spetnaz or SAS :pac:

    From your allegation that Irish soldiers get beaten to death in the British Army, I assume that you also believe in the Tooth Fairy. If you are going to post cr%p like that, perhaps you need to have a reality check first.

    tac, unbeaten to death in 33 years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,504 ✭✭✭tac foley


    mlumley wrote: »
    I have heard Stories about the FFL. The may be "stories" so wont repeat them here, why not join the British Army. If you want some excitement there are a couple of wars going on. Or, after a couple of years, apply to join the SAS, lots of excitement there.

    NOT from the Republic of Ireland, you won't.

    tac


  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭airsofter1234


    tac foley wrote: »
    From your allegation that Irish soldiers get beaten to death in the British Army, I assume that you also believe in the Tooth Fairy. If you are going to post cr%p like that, perhaps you need to have a reality check first.

    tac, unbeaten to death in 33 years.

    sorry for the misunderstanding . i never siad irish soldiers in the BA get beaten , i said that soldiers in the FFL get beaten but each other and NCO's and i a man died in there desert training last year in the FFL. I know that the BA doesnt have corporal punishment and that loads of irish people have good careers in the BA, i understand that most would get treated the same as there british counterparts, i just wouldnt personally join


  • Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭delta-boy


    sorry for the misunderstanding . i never siad irish soldiers in the BA get beaten , i said that soldiers in the FFL get beaten but each other and NCO's and i a man died in there desert training last year in the FFL. I know that the BA doesnt have corporal punishment and that loads of irish people have good careers in the BA, i understand that most would get treated the same as there british counterparts, i just wouldnt personally join

    You obviously dont know anything about what you are talking about so I'd quit while you're ahead. With your attitude I'd stay in either, we dont want you nor do the French, have fun in the Gestapo interview with your views and or your fellow Brit applicants. Cheerio!


  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭airsofter1234


    delta-boy wrote: »
    You obviously dont know anything about what you are talking about so I'd quit while you're ahead. With your attitude I'd stay in either, we dont want you nor do the French, have fun in the Gestapo interview with your views and or your fellow Brit applicants. Cheerio!

    just because i have a problem with joining the BA you think that the PDF and the FFL wouldnt accept me. For me ,(my personal views only) joining the BA is like a brit joining the German Army. I have no problem with english people its just there armed forces. One of my best friends is english, having moved over last year. I get on great with english people when i meet them in spain or where ever, i am not a provo who wants to kill them all i just have a problem with joining them. Your entitled to go off and join the BA but you cant give out to some one else for not having your readyness to join HM armed forces


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish



    The French didnt shoot protesters on the streets of Derry, they didnt treat us as second class citizens, they didnt colaborate with the UVF and build bombs for them which killed 27 people in Dublin and monaghan bombing, to name a few attrocities. Many irish heros such as Wolf Tone served in the French army and many thousands joined the Irish Brigade http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Brigade_(France)


    You need to read up on the norman conquest of ireland so. The British are mere playground bullies compared to what the normans got up to.

    And you want to join the army from which they are derived.

    Traitor.
    You probably already have a "fitz" in your surname anyway.


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