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Told by bar manager to cover my tattoo or leave

  • 08-12-2012 9:00pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8


    Friday Night I went out in cork city for my class party,
    Now I have a left sleeve, and its a dragon, and on the other side of my arm i have flowers.

    I was in The Bailey next to the court house, after maybe being there for an hour The manager approached me at the bar when I was ordering a drink, and asked me to put my sleeve down. he then said I am asking you nicely, indicating if I did not put it down I would be asked to leave.

    Has this happened to anyone else at the bailey that has a sleeve, And how would you handle this.

    Thankyou


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    You should have told him very politely to **** off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 676 ✭✭✭Dietsquirt


    When i read this originally i thought you were working in the bar and your manager told you to roll down your sleeve. The cheek of him saying that to a customer, that's disgraceful and i would complain further. I'm pretty sure it's illegal for him to do that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,089 ✭✭✭keelanj69


    Did you then pay for the drinks and stay there? Could have asked him can he afford to turn down custom I suppose. Or the classic - leave a turd in the urinal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Social Caios


    Dietsquirt wrote: »
    When i read this originally i thought you were working in the bar and your manager told you to roll down your sleeve. The cheek of him saying that to a customer, that's disgraceful and i would complain further. I'm pretty sure it's illegal for him to do that.

    That's What I Want to do, but who Would I complain to, I have his name,
    Im not sure if he is the owner, HOw would I go about this, Thankyou.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 20 Mr Slop Head


    Friday Night I went out in cork city for my class party,
    Now I have a left sleeve, and its a dragon, and on the other side of my arm i have flowers.

    I was in The Bailey next to the court house, after maybe being there for an hour The manager approached me at the bar when I was ordering a drink, and asked me to put my sleeve down. he then said I am asking you nicely, indicating if I did not put it down I would be asked to leave.

    Has this happened to anyone else at the bailey that has a sleeve, And how would you handle this.

    Thankyou
    Not unreasonable. The tattooed are generally insecure and looking for trouble. Cover it or remove it


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,390 ✭✭✭The Big Red Button


    I've seen that as part of the dress code in quite a few places, no uncovered tattoos.

    There's nothing illegal about it (not that I agree with it, it's stupid.)

    Not really anything you can do, although if I were you, I'd avoid the place - I wouldn't like the idea of spending money where I didn't feel welcome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭chrismon


    Not unreasonable. The tattooed are generally insecure and looking for trouble. Cover it or remove it
    ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    Not unreasonable. The tattooed are generally insecure and looking for trouble. Cover it or remove it

    Given your limited number of posts and short time here , I'd guess you haven't read the forum title properly yet.

    But I'll help you , its called Tattoos & Piercings.

    A Mod may shortly wander by to explain it further to you. :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 20 Mr Slop Head


    mattjack wrote: »

    Given your limited number of posts and short time here , I'd guess you haven't read the forum title properly yet.

    But I'll help you , its called Tattoos & Piercings.

    A Mod may shortly wander by to explain it further to you. :)
    What are you on? Drugs like most of the tattooed I think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    What are you on? Drugs like most of the tattooed I think


    Awwww (pats softly on the head) look at him trying to be a troll how cute.....must try harder.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    After the first post I was going to just warn you, but you've made it pretty obvious that the forum is not for you, as you're just abusive, insulting and/or trolling.
    Permabanned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭chrismon


    After the first post I was going to just warn you, but you've made it pretty obvious that the forum is not for you, as you're just abusive, insulting and/or trolling.
    Permabanned.
    He's doing the same on other fourms


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Pretty sure that they can't say that to you unless the tattoo is causing offence to a number of people
    But a dragon sleeve I would think most would find it interesting
    I've been asked by bouncers to cover up my right arm as its just a piece of an eagle Landing on a Celtic cross
    He told me that some other religions in the club may take offence but least he told me so I left with my mates never went back
    I would think in these times they wouldn't say anything to a customer to in anyway refuse a few quid coming in
    Maybe he had a similar tattoo and yours was better?
    Atb


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Dermighty


    Pretty sure that they can't say that to you unless the tattoo is causing offence to a number of people
    But a dragon sleeve I would think most would find it interesting
    I've been asked by bouncers to cover up my right arm as its just a piece of an eagle Landing on a Celtic cross
    He told me that some other religions in the club may take offence but least he told me so I left with my mates never went back
    I would think in these times they wouldn't say anything to a customer to in anyway refuse a few quid coming in
    Maybe he had a similar tattoo and yours was better?
    Atb

    In general if a bouncer says it to you it's because the bar has a policy for that kind of thing.

    I've said it to people when I was at work, not caring about their tattoos, but I've been told to say it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,255 ✭✭✭✭Esoteric_


    It is perfectly legal to kick you out or demand that you cover tattoos.

    It's only illegal to discriminate on grounds of race, religion, ethnicity, and a few other things that I can't remember. :pac:

    Ultimately, you can make a complaint but will probably get nowhere with it. I'd be more inclined to find out if they have a Facebook page, plaster it all over the page and avoid that place from now on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 676 ✭✭✭Dietsquirt


    LyndaMcL wrote: »
    It is perfectly legal to kick you out or demand that you cover tattoos.

    It's only illegal to discriminate on grounds of race, religion, ethnicity, and a few other things that I can't remember. :pac:

    Ultimately, you can make a complaint but will probably get nowhere with it. I'd be more inclined to find out if they have a Facebook page, plaster it all over the page and avoid that place from now on.

    Really?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,255 ✭✭✭✭Esoteric_


    Dietsquirt wrote: »
    Really?!

    Yup. It's a privately owned company, not a public entity. The only things they cannot discriminate on are things laid out in the constitution, such as race, religion, gender, etc.

    After that, the phrase 'management reserve the right to refuse admission' is totally legal.

    In my last job (I was a cook), we had a customer who smelled so bad that other customers would make complaints, and it would honestly take an hour or more of spraying air fresheners and opening all the doors and windows to get rid of the smell after he left. After a few weeks of this, we flat out refused to serve him. He kicked up murder, but ultimately, we weren't discriminating against anything that is unconstitutional to discriminate against, so he had to leave.

    I'm not saying it's a good move to discriminate against people with tattoos (bloody stupid when every Tom, Dick and Harry has a tattoo or piercing nowadays), but there's nothing legally that the OP can do.

    Plaster it on their Facebook wall, call the bar and speak to a higher manager about it, but it's no different to a dress code that states 'no runners after 7pm.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,158 ✭✭✭Arawn


    If they have a sign up saying management reserve the right to refuse admission or dress code in place they can do what they want once it's not against the constitution.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 land lover


    Just cover it up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,255 ✭✭✭✭Esoteric_


    Arawn wrote: »
    If they have a sign up saying management reserve the right to refuse admission or dress code in place they can do what they want once it's not against the constitution.

    Even without the sign, they can refuse entry or deny entry even when the person is inside, unfortunately.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭bedirect


    read something recently where uk police were told to cover up their body art as victims found it intimidating


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭IamMetaldave


    Last year, myself and bunch of pals went into O'Neills on Suffolk St for beers. Most have tattoos, some more heavily covered than others as they're tattoo artists. A few had been served and one of the lads that has some work done on his face was ID'd... It was an obvious way to not serve him, so since he didn't have ID we left. Absolute B.S that stuff is. So they lost the custom of 10 lads and ladies that evening and I sure as hell will not set foot in their ever again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    Its not something I have encountered myself and Ive been in places of all shapes and sizes. I certainly wouldnt take to kindly to being told to cover up nor would I cover up Id rather leave than hide essentially who I am. But I would most certainly have a a few words with the managment of the place before I left and never return again.

    Crazy in this day and age that places would refuse someone service due to tattoos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭chrismon


    Having worked as a bar manager I would never ask someone to leave because of tattoo's or piercings.
    A friend I met while working in Australia had a couple of facial tattoos and quiet intimidating looking.
    He was by far one of the nicest people I have ever met.
    I would just avoid places like that wont serve you because you have a tattoo, doubt it would be any fun in there anyway ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    Unfortunately, the manager was well within his rights to ask you to cover it up. It's an extremely outdated point of view, as tattoo's are so commonplace these days. Personally, i've never encountered it, and my legs would be quite heavily tattoo'd. I don't think you'd get anywhere by lodging a complaint, might be best to just avoid that place from now on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭MrFrisp


    Reardons is the same....Cover it up,,or get out.

    Thankfully We took the latter option a few years back,,and never bothered that dump again.

    Plenty other bars in town will take your tattoos,and your custom.
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,787 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    lolcork


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭mr bungle.


    MrFrisp wrote: »
    Reardons is the same....Cover it up,,or get out.

    Thankfully We took the latter option a few years back,,and never bothered that dump again.

    Plenty other bars in town will take your tattoos,and your custom.
    .
    +1
    the Bailey is just full of "look at me im gorgeous" type of people.the staff are worse.they spend more time looking in the mirror than looking to see who needs to be served.i would have to be dragged into the place!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    keane2097 wrote: »
    lolcork

    Great contribution to the thread. :confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Farewell Tour in The Bailey

    Westlife_poster2-210x300.jpg EPIC WESTLIFE NIGHT 19th of May 2012
    Great night was had by all celebrating The Westlife Farewell Tour!
    It’s the end of an era!!

    You are well shut of that kip OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,132 ✭✭✭Just Like Heaven


    We should have the forum beers at this place and all land down in the nip while we're at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭mummymoo


    LyndaMcL wrote: »

    Ultimately, you can make a complaint but will probably get nowhere with it. I'd be more inclined to find out if they have a Facebook page, plaster it all over the page and avoid that place from now on.


    they have a FB page and ive seen a couple of complaints that are similar to this, not because of tattoos just being asked to leave for no real reason or being treated in a rude way by staff, i never go there ever!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    We should have the forum beers at this place and all land down in the nip while we're at it.
    All the way down to Cork out of spite?



    Sounds like my kind of plan!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,255 ✭✭✭✭Esoteric_


    Denny M wrote: »
    All the way down to Cork out of spite?



    Sounds like my kind of plan!

    Right lads, Cork on the weekend? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    We should have the forum beers at this place and all land down in the nip while we're at it.

    Pervert.

    :pac::P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,255 ✭✭✭✭Esoteric_


    DamoElDiablo banned for one month for personal abuse.



    :p

    *runs and hides*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,132 ✭✭✭Just Like Heaven


    Please forgive my thinly veiled posts :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    LyndaMcL wrote: »
    DamoElDiablo banned for one month for personal abuse.



    :p

    *runs and hides*
    LyndaMcL banned till I feel like letting her back in for backseat molding in a flagrant display of abuse of powers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    LyndaMcL banned till I feel like letting her back in for backseat molding in a flagrant display of abuse of powers.

    TO FEEDBACK! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,255 ✭✭✭✭Esoteric_


    LyndaMcL banned till I feel like letting her back in for backseat molding in a flagrant display of abuse of powers.

    I will dispute this, and bitch about you in Feedback! :mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 961 ✭✭✭TEMPLAR KNIGHT


    I would plaster it all over their Facebook page its quite amazing the reach some of the posts get like that, and everytime they delete it put it back up. If nothing comes of it at least it will wreck their head for a bit!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    I would plaster it all over their Facebook page its quite amazing the reach some of the posts get like that, and everytime they delete it put it back up. If nothing comes of it at least it will wreck their head for a bit!


    Only problem with posting up on facebook is your opening yourself up to all sorts of idiotic comments, some of the posts like the ones you mention literally turn into a farce if you try read down through them, and when it comes to tattoos there pleny of people who are willing to voice there borderline retarded opinions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,255 ✭✭✭✭Esoteric_


    Only problem with posting up on facebook is your opening yourself up to all sorts of idiotic comments, some of the posts like the ones you mention literally turn into a farce if you try read down through them, and when it comes to tattoos there pleny of people who are willing to voice there borderline retarded opinions.

    At the same time, though, anyone with sense will listen because smart people don't discriminate on the grounds of body mods.

    If it stops even 5 sensible people from going there, mission accomplished.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 961 ✭✭✭TEMPLAR KNIGHT


    Only problem with posting up on facebook is your opening yourself up to all sorts of idiotic comments, some of the posts like the ones you mention literally turn into a farce if you try read down through them, and when it comes to tattoos there pleny of people who are willing to voice there borderline retarded opinions.


    I think a lot of people like when establishment is questioned though and are willing to jump on the wagon for a cause. Then again youll always get the retarded opinions!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    I think a lot of people like when establishment is questioned though and are willing to jump on the wagon for a cause. Then again youll always get the retarded opinions!

    Especially regarding tats because let's face it, we're all knuckle-dragging scum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 961 ✭✭✭TEMPLAR KNIGHT


    Orim wrote: »
    Especially regarding tats because let's face it, we're all knuckle-dragging scum.


    yeah but what about all the boyz with celtic tattz and "mam & dad" love hearts, theres plenty of them on facebook worthy of joining our cause against the bailey:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,588 ✭✭✭ahnowbrowncow


    chrismon wrote: »
    He's doing the same on other fourms

    Huh? He had a total of two posts, both in this thread :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    Huh? He had a total of two posts, both in this thread :confused:

    Nope he had a few all of which have since been deleted ;).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    There is a place across the road from it called long island, its a cocktail bar place, i had to head in there for a friends birthday, after being in there for an hour or so we were chatting to the regular doorman and everthing, then the manager came over and told my friend to take out his earing or he would be asked to leave !!!!!!!!!

    It was a tiny little stud earing, the lad has no tattoos on display was dressed nicely etc.

    Ridiculous carryon by a few dickheads who think they have power.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    Nope he had a few all of which have since been deleted ;).

    *sniff* I thought we were special :(


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