Next Week, will it, wont it Snow thread 10th-15th

pistolpetes11

Rite, all the will it ? wont it Snow ? chat can go in here ,

Model /Technical thread is for model technical discussion only !

There is also a winter Ramping thread where you can ramp away to your hearts content

maquiladora wrote: »

It's absolutely game over for this round guys. Clutching at straws would be quite daft at this stage. You can clearly see the progressive downgrading since the 06Z yesterday. Best thing to do is draw a line under this one and look ahead to the next potential cold spell.

It's only the first week of winter.

I am with you here , we always talk about trends and the trend right now is for the Atlantic to win out, models will chop and change but I feel we have gone past the brink on this episode.

Have to say , I enjoyed the first real hunt for elusive white stuff this winter ,

Last few days I have not been off the laptop , and If I may add thanks to everyone who contributed.

Villain

DOCARCH

Too early to call it yet that it will not happen, IMHO, this in equal measure to saying that it will happen!

To keep my sanity, my new policy this year is only to look 72hrs to 96hrs into the models.

Villain

Indeed Docarch, it could flip the other direction just as quick on another run.

Super-Rush

So what does this mean for a complete idiot like myself?

Weathering

I wonder what M.T will say in his latest forecast. Hopefully he gives us an update this evening. It's Ironic two days ago we were speculating/worried about how long the snow would stay for and now in reality we more than likely won't even see it. Cruel

icesnowfrost

Well lads I still think we will see snow next week on the east coast of ire models or no models stay positive if it doesn't snow sure wat the hell. if it does we will all be happy

DOCARCH

Super-Rush wrote: »

So what does this mean for a complete idiot like myself?

Just carry on as normal...and don't worry your head. :pac:

Super-Rush

DOCARCH wrote: »

Just carry on as normal...and don't worry your head. :pac:

Is it going to stay raining on and off and freezing on top of it?

Feckin roads are lethal here for well over a week now.

DOCARCH

I just hope Evelyn is on duty in RTE for the weekend. If there is snow to found....she will find it.

Weathering

1m Netweather.tv ‏@Netweather
The 'Beast from the East' seems to have become more of an angry kitten on todays data, but still cold, so don't pack the woollies away yet.

pistolpetes11

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pistolpetes11

A bit of a split on the ensembles

Weathering

pistolpetes11 wrote: »

A bit of a split on the ensembles

What exactly does this mean? Has this cast doubt in to the milder temps..have the chances of snow marginally increased?

pistolpetes11

Means that the outcome is not set in stone , its in favor of mild mild but just goes to show the uncertainty

ZX7R

If the ecwmf still holds the same in the next run ,i have a gut feeling North and East of Ireland could be a battle ground between cold and mild air this could give us a day or two of the white stuff ,after that wait and see what happens

Fuh Q

Its fact that we will have snow next week, it has been proven by me today.
My willie shriveled up and disappeared up into my stomach when I woke up today and I usually wake up in a tent. On that scientific basis I declare we are heading into an ice age...

pistolpetes11

ECM @ 144 has the colder air hanging on in the UK , coldish air trying to hang on in Ireland , nothing special 850-'s -2/-3

Sponge Bob

pistolpetes11 wrote: »

Means that the outcome is not set in stone , its in favor of mild mild but just goes to show the uncertainty

Absolutely Pete, it may only snow in Galway and Mayo is one scenario, ye can come down here with yeer shovels and do what ye like to it.

pistolpetes11

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Absolutely Pete, it may only snow in Galway and Mayo is one scenario, ye can come down here with yeer shovels and do what ye like to it.

The ECM has the Northern county's holding onto some of that colder air too

icesnowfrost

tv3 and rte weather both saying it will snow next week on the north and east coast at lower levels....so why is everyone saying it prob wont ?

TheMilkyPirate

Can't see much if anything next week at this stage, Have a feeling we will have a few duds like this before we get the real thing. Most likely after the traditional christmas mild interlude.

Snowy new years anyone?

Sponge Bob

UKMO FAX 3 Runs in sequence. 0z 6z and 12z. Note the progressive encroachment from the west.

0z



6z



12z

Gonzo

icesnowfrost wrote: »

tv3 and rte weather both saying it will snow next week on the north and east coast at lower levels....so why is everyone saying it prob wont ?

because the tv stations are usually referencing information that is 24 hours old.

pauldry

Snow is frustrating to forecast but the mid December forecast may happen.

Surely though it will rain initially with all the mildness that needs to be got rid of and the relatively mild sea air on the Irish Sea.

What I think might happen is that it will rain on Wednesday and people will say "this is very disappointing" but then Wednesday noght or Thursday it will snow in some of Leinster and Ulster and maybe Connaught and then everyone will get excited and then it will rain again on Friday and be freezing.

RTE weather has a max of 1c for Wednesday. Nice.

whitebriar

Sponge Bob wrote: »

UKMO FAX 3 Runs in sequence. 0z 6z and 12z. Note the progressive encroachment from the west.

0z



6z



12z

That's not the way I'm reading them
Looking at those,I see a parent low being blocked from heading east,so it heads south east instead.
The fronts have to follow the parent low so if anything whilst they do meridianly encroach,they're still sliding southeast and do you know,that means cold air trumps

PurpleSt4in

Am I the only one in favour of one big ass Winter thread instead of having about 40? I like to do all my creeping in one thread.

weisses

Snow ?!?!

Bring it on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81y9XSQ9Ru0

mike65

Don't see myself bar the odd coastal flurry along the north/east coasts, anyone not in Antrim, Down, Louth, Meath, Dublin, Wikla can probably sleep soundly.

edit - just looked at the latest charts and its turned more to the west.

jimmynokia

Sunday world reporting snow and -15 temps,but its the sunday world lol..

mike65

met error says

On Wednesday evening and early night it looks like the wet weather will spread countrywide with clearer weather following from the South.

Thursday looks breezy and dry in many areas with brighter spells though there is the risk of some occasional rain, especially in the West. Highest temperatures expected are 7 to 10 degrees in fresh Southerly winds.

Sponge Bob

From the experts

http://www.yr.no/nyheter/1.9825107

Hvor mye snø er 1 millimeter regn?

Snø er krystaller

Snø er nedbør i form av sekskantede krystaller. Temperatur og fuktighetforhold i atmosfæren har betydning for hvordan disse krystallene dannes og blir seende ut.

Ved temperatur over null grader er snøen ofte våt, krystallene slår seg sammen til større flak og vi får tyngre snø.

Her kan vi få færre centimeter fordi snøen er tung og faller sammen. Men om vi skal ut å måke snø er dette som regel den tyngste og mest slitsomme snøen å måke.

Ved lavere temperaturer er krystallene mer skarpe og dette bidrar til å holde snøfnuggene fra hverandre. Dette gjør at snøen blir lettere, men kan ta opp mer plass.

Daniel2590

Sponge Bob wrote: »

From the experts

http://www.yr.no/nyheter/1.9825107

Hvor mye snø er 1 millimeter regn?

Unfortunately, not all of us are fluent in Norwegian :pac:

pistolpetes11

Sponge Bob wrote: »

From the experts

http://www.yr.no/nyheter/1.9825107

Hvor mye snø er 1 millimeter regn?

And for the benefit of the English speaking amongst us ?

geetar

pistolpetes11 wrote: »

And for the benefit of the English speaking amongst us ?

google translate is telling me

Hvor mye snø er 1 millimeter regn? = How much snow is one millimeter of rain?

the answer, according to the article, is 1mm rain = 1cm snow

Lucreto

pistolpetes11 wrote: »

And for the benefit of the English speaking amongst us ?

A straight forward translation for the people how are too laszy to do it themselves.

Snow crystals are

Snow is precipitation in the form of hexagonal crystals. Temperature and humidity in the atmosphere affect how these crystals formed and behaves.

At temperatures above zero degrees snow is often wet, the crystals turn into larger flakes and we get heavy snow.

Here we have fewer centimeters because the snow is heavy and sinks. But if we are going out to shovel snow, this is usually the heaviest and most strenuous snow shoveling.

At lower temperatures the crystals more sharp and this helps to keep the snowflakes from each other. This allows the snow to be lighter, but can take up more space.

Nothing we didn't know already.

Pleasuredeath

A lot of snow is on its way for ireland can't wait !

pistolpetes11

Lucreto wrote: »

A straight forward translation for the people how are too laszy to do it themselves.


Nothing we didn't know already.

Cheers was on my phone :P

snaps

Pleasuredeath wrote: »

A lot of snow is on its way for ireland can't wait !

zilch snow. Looking at the charts and that nasty low pressure in the mid Atlantic hanging around like a bad smell, it'll be a very wet 5 days from Thursday onwards. Possibly windy as well in the south west air flow.

Davaeo09

snaps wrote: »

zilch snow. Looking at the charts and that nasty low pressure in the mid Atlantic hanging around like a bad smell, it'll be a very wet 5 days from Thursday onwards. Possibly windy as well in the south west air flow.

But it could change again, not likely but if these last few years have been any thing to go by, every thing can change weather wise within 4-5 days :cool:

icesnowfrost

Pleasuredeath wrote: »

A lot of snow is on its way for ireland can't wait !

Were are u getting that info from... There won't be any unless u are going up a mountain.. Sorry to burst your bubble

Sponge Bob

More Good News.

http://www.yr.no/nyheter/1.9550544

I helgen blir det hvitt!

(Ye'd want to be a bit well slow not to guess the norwegian for snow )

Mange steder kan det komme en god del snø

Translation. >

icesnowfrost

Sponge Bob wrote: »

More Good News.

http://www.yr.no/nyheter/1.9550544

I helgen blir det hvitt!

(Ye'd want to be a bit well slow not to guess the norwegian for snow )





Translation. >

That would be a dream come true

TURRICAN

Sponge Bob wrote: »

More Good News.

http://www.yr.no/nyheter/1.9550544

I helgen blir det hvitt!

(Ye'd want to be a bit well slow not to guess the norwegian for snow )





Translation. >

Quote: In many places it can get a lot of snow

ninebeanrows

Well latest ECM is interesting. Would not write off a snowy breakdown yet.

There is a ~30% chance of a lp sliding into France and keeping us on the cold side up until the weekend with some snow!

Keep the faith.

ZX7R

Weathercheck wrote: »

Well latest ECM is interesting. Would not write off a snowy breakdown yet.

There is a ~30% chance of a lp sliding into France and keeping us on the cold side up until the weekend with some snow!

Keep the faith.

someone on the fi ieland tread said rte weather on six one menchond snow the end of next week don't know how true

JanuarySnowstor

Weathercheck wrote: »

Well latest ECM is interesting. Would not write off a snowy breakdown yet.

There is a ~30% chance of a lp sliding into France and keeping us on the cold side up until the weekend with some snow!

Keep the faith.

I would rate our chances Matty as .3% tbh
We are a million miles away from snow this week.
Temps as I speak across the country are quite readily between 6 and 9 C
And tonight was meant to be our coldest night!

highdef

I'm at -0.2 and falling so I must be an exception :rolleyes:

ZX7R

Gerry Murphy on the 9pm weather said rain sleet snow tursday /Friday possible heavy snow for a time on Friday:D

Darwin

Just watched the forecast after the 9 news. Gerry managed to say the S word as a possibility on Friday eve., incredible! (No he didn't say Schleeet)

Pangea

Currently reading 0.2c at the moment, hard frost on the car the past few hours.
Gerry Murphys forecast was good for snow, mentioned Thursday and Friday from what I gathered.