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Would you live in a house where a murder (or murders) occurred?

  • 01-12-2012 2:44am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭


    Just out of curiosity.

    Recent murder, no.Decades old, maybe. If it was a clean, one off stabbing or shooting then i would consider it. No dismembering, decapitation or disemboweling though or if the victims were children (12 or under)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Is it a nice house? Is it in a good location? What are the schools like in the area? Amenities?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭Max Power


    Are you planning on selling OP?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Unless it was the actual house that committed pre meditated murder it wouldn't bother me at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    The Amityville house was occupied after the murders and reported hauntings. Personally I would not reside in a property where such violence occurred.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    You watched "Sinister" recently, didn't you?? :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    Where To wrote: »
    Unless it was the actual house that committed pre meditated murder it wouldn't bother me at all.
    Ditto, or maybe unsolved with a hint of local about it. Although, I'd probably draw the line at the house committing murder at all, premeditation would keep me out if that city.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭Reamer Fanny


    Hell no!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    I'd have to move a lot more often if I wouldn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Are you planning on selling OP?

    He's an estate agent but there are no vacant houses in the area for sale so he's using his wit, obviously


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭FanadMan


    A house is a house is a house. Who knows what happened in the brand new place people are in - could be a body burried in the foundations ;)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭tdv123


    And people thought Scientology was a crazy idea. The fools.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    The Amityville house was occupied after the murders and reported hauntings. Personally I would not reside in a property where such violence occurred.

    The amityville house is just a wee bit different now though, isnt it? In the amityville case the eldest brother heard voices inside his head and took it upon himself to massacre his parents and half a dozen younger brothers and sisters in their sleep with a shotgun.
    Thats stuff of horror films,not a one off shooting or stabbing like the op is describing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭FanadMan


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    The amityville house is just a wee bit different now though, isnt it? In the amityville case the eldest brother heard voices inside his head and took it upon himself to massacre his parents and half a dozen younger brothers and sisters in their sleep with a shotgun.
    Thats stuff of horror films,not a one off shooting or stabbing like the op is describing.

    Exactly - if that guy was checked today, he would be classed as schizophrenic and be treated with meds and/or hospital care. Most of the problems in selling these houses are down to the minds of freaked out neighbours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    The amityville house is just a wee bit different now though, isnt it? In the amityville case the eldest brother heard voices inside his head and took it upon himself to massacre his parents and half a dozen younger brothers and sisters in their sleep with a shotgun.
    Thats stuff of horror films,not a one off shooting or stabbing like the op is describing.

    Different how? It was murder wasn't it? It really happened the eldest son who was 23 at the time killed his parents and siblings. The young man in the Amityville case was obviously mentally disturbed, but whats the difference in that and somebody losing the rag one night and murdering a man or woman in a house.

    Doesn't the property still retain the aura of violent death.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,694 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Assume that if you wouldn't, that means you believe in ghosts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,294 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    As long as the murderer is gone, sound!


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If I leave I'll look guilty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭girl in the striped socks


    I don't think so.
    Can you imagine what it would be like to try & sleep in that house after a massive drinking session? Not only would the rats be in the bed beside you but so would the murdered corpses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,802 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    Just because a previous occupant got murdered, doesnt mean the same will befall future residents.

    If you see a ghost, replicate ghostbusters & chase them with the hoover


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    I lived in a house before where the previous tenants were said to be neighbours from hell... :-)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    Why not? Nice cheap starting price, quick sale too.

    So long as the murder happened over the tiles and not the carpet, i couldn't care less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭9959


    Tom_Cruise wrote: »
    Just out of curiosity.

    Recent murder, no.Decades old, maybe. If it was a clean, one off stabbing or shooting then i would consider it. No dismembering, decapitation or disemboweling though or if the victims were children (12 or under)

    I'd be alright with dismembering and disemboweling, not sure on decapitation, but quartering would definitely be a deal-breaker, not to mention hanging and drawing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    The Amityville story was a hoax concocted by Defeo and his lawyer. He murdered his family for insurance fraud. Nothing to do with voices or ghosts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 flipflops on 5th ave


    God no. Years ago, my aunt told me that her friend was renting her basement suite, if I wanted to move in but that a girl was gang raped there.

    That was enough to put me off :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭MickFleetwood


    Why the hell not?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    I don't think so.
    Can you imagine what it would be like to try & sleep in that house after a massive drinking session? Not only would the rats be in the bed beside you but so would the murdered corpses.
    Haha, they remove the corpse after a murder you know...

    A lot of superstitious people out there! If you were unaware of any such murder taking place in the house you live in you would have no issues surely? It's a psychological thing...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    If it was a clean, one off stabbing or shooting then i would consider it.

    What's clean about it :confused: Hearing of any person murdered in a place I was going to live in...Not a chance. I wouldn't live there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Little Acorn


    God no. Years ago, my aunt told me that her friend was renting her basement suite, if I wanted to move in but that a girl was gang raped there.

    That was enough to put me off :/

    That kind of story would put me of living in a place even moreso than what the op described (quick "clean" murder). I probably would not like to live in a place where anybody was killed nomatter how quickly or cleanly they were killed, but I know I would DEFINITELY never knowingly live in a place where I knew a person had been tortured or tortured then killed. A girl being gang raped? Yeah, don't think I could ever see a place where something like that occurred as 'home'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 flipflops on 5th ave


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    Haha, they remove the corpse after a murder you know...

    A lot of superstitious people out there! If you were unaware of any such murder taking place in the house you live in you would have no issues surely? It's a psychological thing...


    thats exactly it. it's breaking up with someone when you catch them cheating and saying you wouldnt have done it if you didnt catch them. the point is you did! haha the point is you KNOW someone was killed there. ick!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭WumBuster


    The flat across the hall from me had a tenant murdered in it 5 or 6 years ago. When the previous tenant who was in there found out he moved out immediately, it totally creeped him out.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭areyawell


    Yes and then I could blame the house for killing someone I hated


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,145 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    I don't believe in ghosts, but I do believe in the brain's ability to play tricks on itself.
    I've felt spooked the odd time when my imagination got the better of me. I think living in a place like that would make me more prone to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭hedzball


    Wired a house before where 2 kids died in a house fire 2 years previous..

    The owners to this day tell me nothing funky has happened since..


    Wouldn't be my cup.. their room is now his office..

    no thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    The Amityville house was occupied after the murders and reported hauntings. Personally I would not reside in a property where such violence occurred.


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2213078/Amityville-horror-house-market-owners-drop-asking-price-1-35m-955k.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭Aciiiiiiiiiiid


    MadYaker wrote: »
    As long as the murderer is gone, sound!
    And if he's not gone, a substantial discount should be given on the rent.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    Would be weird but if I otherwise liked the house, yeah I would.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Little Acorn


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    Haha, they remove the corpse after a murder you know...

    A lot of superstitious people out there! If you were unaware of any such murder taking place in the house you live in you would have no issues surely? It's a psychological thing...

    Oh I agree it would be purely psychological, but not necessary superstitious.
    For example if I just moved into a new place and then discovered a person had been murdered there, I would start thinking WAY too much about it.
    I would wonder did they try and crawl over there to get away? Was there blood on this part of the floor? Did they lie on this very spot as they died? While they were dying possibly on this very spot, where they thinking about their family? Were they terrified and knew they were dying? Did they have kids? etc.

    It might be different if for some extremely weird reason a stranger got murdered in a house you had been living in for years and had already established as your home. It would be horrifying but maybe because of all the happy memories you had built there over the years, these might be enough to counter the one bad one and you might be able to move past the terrible act.

    In a completely new house move though it would be much harder, because you would not already have some good memories from the place, all you would have is the knowledge that somebody died a violent death here. I suppose though if you forced yourself to just stick it out and tried your best not to think about it, you could eventually build some new happy memories to have of your new home. I would definitely find it disturbing though for many months at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    Would you live in a house where a murder occurred??

    or would you live in a house where jimmy savile lived??

    which would be worse??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    It depends on the murder. If it was a case of a family member murdering another family member, then personally I'd have no problem with living there.

    If it was a burglar who broke in, murdered everyone and got back out without ever being caught, then it's obviously more of an issue as it could happen again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Lelantos



    Different how? It was murder wasn't it? It really happened the eldest son who was 23 at the time killed his parents and siblings. The young man in the Amityville case was obviously mentally disturbed, but whats the difference in that and somebody losing the rag one night and murdering a man or woman in a house.

    Doesn't the property still retain the aura of violent death.

    Ah sure all you have to do is get Derek Acora in & he'll clean that aura right up for you.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭the keen edge


    There is a house on the property market just down the road from where I live.

    Its dark secret: the previous now deceased owner was murdered in the sitting room by his grandson who is now in prison serving a lengthy stretch after being convicted of killing him.

    It's located on the main Galway to Limerick road about 30 minute drive from Galway, so at €55K the price isn't too steep.
    I suppose you could demolish the house and build a new one on the site; but still that grizzly past with always be there.
    Personally I wouldn't purchase it at any price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    There is a house on the property market just down the road from where I live.

    Its dark secret: the previous now deceased owner was murdered in the sitting room by his grandson who is now in prison serving a lengthy stretch after being convicted of killing him.

    It's located on the main Galway to Limerick road about 30 minute drive from Galway, so at €55K the price isn't too steep.
    I suppose you could demolish the house and build a new one on the site; but still that grizzly past with always be there.
    Personally I wouldn't purchase it at any price.

    Are you telling porkies? That ad doesn't say anything about a murder! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭donegal_road


    Tom_Cruise wrote: »
    Just out of curiosity.

    Recent murder, no.Decades old, maybe. If it was a clean, one off stabbing or shooting then i would consider it. No dismembering, decapitation or disemboweling though or if the victims were children (12 or under)

    I did years ago in cork.. I was told by locals that there had been a murder and suicide in the dormar appartment we were living in. It was a very large apt spanning the entire width of the building and thats why i rented it. But we werent in very long when we noticed a bad atmosphere in the place.. Not being superstitious here but there was a sequence of nasty events that occurred during our first six months there that prompted me to leave.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭books4sale


    Personally I wouldn't purchase it at any price.

    Why not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,802 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    I don't believe in ghosts, but I do believe in the brain's ability to play tricks on itself.
    I've felt spooked the odd time when my imagination got the better of me. I think living in a place like that would make me more prone to it.

    Ditto, Live in an old house & have seen shadows that were not easily explained.

    Sitting in living room & glanced out the door at the stairs & saw a "human shaped" shadow. Was on own in house at time, but also hungover .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor


    Just get the local priest up to dash some holy water about. It will be grand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭books4sale


    Yeah I know, nothing worse than them unexplained shadows is there?

    There's probably a mass grave under the house with hundreds of famine victims. As a result your house is riddled with dark spirits, best bet is to pack up and leave now before they drive you to a bitter end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,390 ✭✭✭The Big Red Button


    I'm not superstitious at all. But I still don't like the idea of living in a house where something awful happened.

    I just don't think it would ever really feel like a home to me. I can't imagine just chilling out and relaxing and being happy in the same room where someone was murdered. It just seems a bit morbid.

    Similarly, I'm not religious, but I still wouldn't have a picnic sitting on top of a stranger's grave. It would feel disrespectful.

    It wouldn't bother me, though, to live in a house where someone died peacefully, of natural causes.
    There is a house on the property market just down the road from where I live.

    That house even looks haunted! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭books4sale


    ....they mostly come at night, mostly!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,802 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    Dancor wrote: »
    Just get the local priest up to dash some holy water about. It will be grand.

    Not a big follower of all that stuff, how is holy water for washing things tho ?
    books4sale wrote: »
    Yeah I know, nothing worse than them unexplained shadows is there?

    There's probably a mass grave under the house with hundreds of famine victims. As a result your house is riddled with dark spirits, best bet is to pack up and leave now before they drive you to a bitter end.

    never heard of anyone hurt by a shadow, next time ill follow where it goes, could be hidden treasure


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