Sky broadband pricing

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I did survey this evening for sky broadband bundles.

It was offering a tv,phone and unlimited broadband package for €75.

I don't know how indicative that is of pricing but I'm not sure if its a bargain compared to UPC

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Cody Thousands Metropolis wrote: »

I did survey this evening for sky broadband bundles.

It was offering a tv,phone and unlimited broadband package for €75.

I don't know how indicative that is of pricing but I'm not sure if its a bargain compared to UPC

Not great at all. Especially when you consider the bb speeds are much slower then upc and their multi room is 3 times dearer than upc. Hopefully they get some negative feedback on the surveys and rethink the pricing.

amdaley28

I suppose it depends where you happen to live.
Outside the large urban areas that might be a good deal ?

Kristopherus

What TV package was that survey based on?

uck51js9zml2yt

I think it was a basic package. It was mainly around the wording of phrases. Like and dislike and reasons why.

RobertFoster

Did the survey give any indication of how unlimited "unlimited broadband" would be? I'd be interested in ditching Vodafone's 40GB cap. 2Mb speed I can just about live with, but 40GB puts a damper on Steam sales/Playstation Plus/Netflix/etc.

brownacid

RobertFoster wrote: »

Did the survey give any indication of how unlimited "unlimited broadband" would be? I'd be interested in ditching Vodafone's 40GB cap. 2Mb speed I can just about live with, but 40GB puts a damper on Steam sales/Playstation Plus/Netflix/etc.

For a fiver extra I think you can get the "unlimited" vodafone package which is about 250GB as far as I can remember.

bk

Well assuming it is the Sky Entertainment Plus pack that is included, which normally costs €33, then that makes te phone and bb part worth €42, which is nothing particularly special.

I don't think it will come close to competing with UPC.

However it might help keep the price of the UPC packages down a little and Vodafone might be forced to make their cheapest entry level package unlimited.

RobertFoster

brownacid wrote: »

For a fiver extra I think you can get the "unlimited" vodafone package which is about 250GB as far as I can remember.

It's €3.99 for an extra 30GB. I don't agree with the large difference in cap between their Value broadband and their Ultimate broadband (40GB vs 350GB), so I'm not going to give them more money just because they decided to keep prices the same but start enforcing the cap. I was forced into their Value broadband package moving from BT because my line can't get more than 2Mbit. It didn't bother me until they started enforcing caps.

bk wrote: »

Well assuming it is the Sky Entertainment Plus pack that is included, which normally costs €33, then that makes te phone and bb part worth €42, which is nothing particularly special.

I don't think it will come close to competing with UPC.

However it might help keep the price of the UPC packages down a little and Vodafone might be forced to make their cheapest entry level package unlimited.

They'll never be able to compete with UPC if they're just another bitstream provider. Why would anyone go from cable to ADSL, unless Sky can undercut the price greatly? I hope you're right about them opening up competition with Vodafone though!

Sponge Bob

Cody Thousands Metropolis wrote: »

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It was offering a tv,phone and unlimited broadband package for €75.

Costs less than that now...but not from one supplier.

€25 basic sky sub + €49 unlimited 8mbit and line rental, widely available and total €74 a month.

The Sparrow

Just got a call from Sky offering me broadband. We have the full Sky Entertainment pack and Sky Sports but no Movies or HD. They offered me the following:

broadband light up to 24mb - 2gb monthly cap - free

broadband max - up to 24mb - no monthly cap or fair usage policy - 10 euro on top of Sky package

Phone 7.50 free evening calls to 20 countries.

To get the broadband, I have to take the phone. So it would be €17.50 a month on top of my monthly Sky bill. No brainer as we are currently paying Vodafone about €50 for the same. I specifically asked what the fair usage policy was on the broadband max package and they told me that it is genuinely unlimited and that there is no fair usage policy.

codie

The Sparrow wrote: »

Just got a call from Sky offering me broadband. We have the full Sky Entertainment pack and Sky Sports but no Movies or HD. They offered me the following:

broadband light up to 24mb - 2gb monthly cap - free

broadband max - up to 24mb - no monthly cap or fair usage policy - 10 euro on top of Sky package

Phone 7.50 free evening calls to 20 countries.

To get the broadband, I have to take the phone. So it would be €17.50 a month on top of my monthly Sky bill. No brainer as we are currently paying Vodafone about €50 for the same. I specifically asked what the fair usage policy was on the broadband max package and they told me that it is genuinely unlimited and that there is no fair usage policy.

Presume thats €17.50+line rental ?

Nody

The Sparrow wrote: »

Just got a call from Sky offering me broadband. We have the full Sky Entertainment pack and Sky Sports but no Movies or HD. They offered me the following:

broadband light up to 24mb - 2gb monthly cap - free

broadband max - up to 24mb - no monthly cap or fair usage policy - 10 euro on top of Sky package

Phone 7.50 free evening calls to 20 countries.

To get the broadband, I have to take the phone. So it would be €17.50 a month on top of my monthly Sky bill. No brainer as we are currently paying Vodafone about €50 for the same. I specifically asked what the fair usage policy was on the broadband max package and they told me that it is genuinely unlimited and that there is no fair usage policy.

I'd only believe that if I saw it in writing and than with the full knowledge it will go away with in 3 years.

Fresh Pots

Pricing sounds very good. Has anybody else rang to see if they are offering it to the masses yet?

The Sparrow

codie wrote: »

Presume thats €17.50+line rental ?

Good question. I didn't ask but I assumed that there would be no line rental charge.

There isn't on the Vodafone broadband that I am currently using.

Raoul Duke

The Sparrow wrote: »

Just got a call from Sky offering me broadband.

What exchange are you on, do you know?

paflairl

Hi guys,

Received a call yesterday from sky (had indicated my interest on Sky's website some months ago)

Similar info to what "The Sparrow" received, although the sales person mentioned 4 plans (2 of which apply to the area I live in (Tralee).

I assume that means 2 extra plans available to somewhere like Dublin, but she was vague when I asked more about the other two that were not available to me.

Didn't ask about the lite package once I heard about the 2gb cap.

No line rental for what the "sales person" called an introductory offer. The contract is for 12 months. During this time the price stays at €17.50 incl vat (€7.50 for phones/ €10 for unlimited broadband (broadband max)

Phone calls for the unlimited package included local,national and calls to 20 countries(landline only). I was told that it was anytime for all calls. Usual cut off point of 59 minutes for the phone calls.

From the conversation I had it seems they will roll it out to the masses sometime in february 2013.

Hope this helps guys.

Cheerful Spring

The Sparrow wrote: »

Just got a call from Sky offering me broadband. We have the full Sky Entertainment pack and Sky Sports but no Movies or HD. They offered me the following:

broadband light up to 24mb - 2gb monthly cap - free

broadband max - up to 24mb - no monthly cap or fair usage policy - 10 euro on top of Sky package

Phone 7.50 free evening calls to 20 countries.

To get the broadband, I have to take the phone. So it would be €17.50 a month on top of my monthly Sky bill. No brainer as we are currently paying Vodafone about €50 for the same. I specifically asked what the fair usage policy was on the broadband max package and they told me that it is genuinely unlimited and that there is no fair usage policy.

Thats very cheap for broadband even if it only DSL Eircom must be worried if Sky sticks to it and will not charge line rental.

Fresh Pots

If anyone else gets a call can they ask when this is available to new customers and if there is any additional charges if you don't have an active eircom line in your house currently. (Got a line but it's disconnected as I'm with upc for phone).

toby2111

Would defo be interested in this.Much better than what Eircom can offer.I registered my interest on Sky site a few weeks ago so hope I get a call.Although how can they offer anytime calls and unlimited broadband for €17.50 per month?

okidoki987

It's done through BT afaik.
Like all opening offers, they will be loss leaders, that is until you go to renew next year!

I would be wary of someone telling me "no cap" on the phone.
After all, the sales rep can tell you anything to get his commission and 6 months down the road when a large bill comes in the door,
he will be long gone.

UPC is €69 with 4 months half price for 25mg BB, off peak calls and basic tv.
Doesn't sound like a massive improvement on that.

Shyboy

paflairl wrote: »

Similar info to what "The Sparrow" received, although the sales person mentioned 4 plans (2 of which apply to the area I live in (Tralee).

I assume that means 2 extra plans available to somewhere like Dublin, but she was vague when I asked more about the other two that were not available to me.

I reckon 2 plans are for people who are on a BT unbundled exchange and the other 2 are for people on Eircom exchanges and me thinks the BT unbundled exchanges will be the cheaper packages as Sky have the deal with BT. What do you think?

Kristopherus

okidoki987 wrote: »

It's done through BT afaik.
Like all opening offers, they will be loss leaders, that is until you go to renew next year!

I would be wary of someone telling me "no cap" on the phone.
After all, the sales rep can tell you anything to get his commission and 6 months down the road when a large bill comes in the door,
he will be long gone.

UPC is €69 with 4 months half price for 25mg BB, off peak calls and basic tv.
Doesn't sound like a massive improvement on that.

Cobblers:mad:

There's a big thread in the Work & Jobs forum about the $ky recruitment. None of the posters there, who had got jobs in Broadband Sales,said they werre on commission. Instead they said the remuneration & coditions were very good. Much as I dislike what $ky stands for, I have to say that they are anything but fly-by-nights , as you seem it infer.

Wils110

okidoki987 wrote: »

It's done through BT afaik.
Like all opening offers, they will be loss leaders, that is until you go to renew next year!

I would be wary of someone telling me "no cap" on the phone.
After all, the sales rep can tell you anything to get his commission and 6 months down the road when a large bill comes in the door,
he will be long gone.

UPC is €69 with 4 months half price for 25mg BB, off peak calls and basic tv.
Doesn't sound like a massive improvement on that.

Door to door= commission... phone sales = salary permanent contract recorded phone call

ted1

Wils110 wrote: »

Door to door= commission... phone sales = salary permanent contract recorded phone call

Targets for sales which leads to bonuses, calls are recorded fit training not for you to catch them out.

zg3409

Shyboy wrote: »

I reckon 2 plans are for people who are on a BT unbundled exchange and the other 2 are for people on Eircom exchanges and me thinks the BT unbundled exchanges will be the cheaper packages as Sky have the deal with BT. What do you think?

Thats exactly the way it works in the UK. Uncapped is only available in areas where Sky (BT in ROI) has their own equipment.

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Anybody know if there is a BT exchange in Lucan? I would assume there is.

Kristopherus

TheTechGuy wrote: »

Anybody know if there is a BT exchange in Lucan? I would assume there is.

Someone in another thread posted that the locations of the BT enabled exchanges was a closely guarded secret.:(

green123

ireland offline have a list of the exchanges here :

http://irelandoffline.org/2012/10/sky-broadband/

roast

TheTechGuy wrote: »

Anybody know if there is a BT exchange in Lucan? I would assume there is.

The Ballydowd, Lucan exchange is BT LLU.

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roast wrote: »

The Ballydowd, Lucan exchange is BT LLU.

Yeah I seen that in the link above, I'm just under 1km from the exchange so hopefully my speeds would be decent enough.

roast

TheTechGuy wrote: »

Yeah I seen that in the link above, I'm just under 1km from the exchange so hopefully my speeds would be decent enough.

Sweet.
Bear in mind that if you're 1km as the crow flies, you might be a little further in terms of the length of the copper line between you and the exchange.

If you check your current line stats in your modem, input the down attenuation to the form here it'll give you an approximation as to what the line is capable of.

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roast wrote: »

Sweet.
Bear in mind that if you're 1km as the crow flies, you might be a little further in terms of the length of the copper line between you and the exchange.

If you check your current line stats in your modem, input the down attenuation to the form here it'll give you an approximation as to what the line is capable of.

I'm with upc at the moment so I can't check but I'd be happy enough with a solid 8meg connection. Paying upc for a 25meg connection but it's more than I need really. I do download a bit but I'm prepared to wait a couple more minutes if it means I'll be paying much less a month. It wasn't so long ago I had a 2mb connection from upc and sure that done me!

roast

TheTechGuy wrote: »

I'm with upc at the moment so I can't check but I'd be happy enough with a solid 8meg connection. Paying upc for a 25meg connection but it's more than I need really. I do download a bit but I'm prepared to wait a couple more minutes if it means I'll be paying much less a month. It wasn't so long ago I had a 2mb connection from upc and sure that done me!

Cable broadband is far superior to DSL, not just in terms of raw speed/bandwidth.
Depending on the price margin between UPC and Sky (whatever it would be as a bundle and whatnot) then it probably wouldn't be of any great benefit to switch back to DSL.

Nuno

Missus just got the call from Sky a few mins ago. We'd signed up earlier this year on their website expressing interest. Went with the €17.50 deal, locked in for 12months. Interestingly, they're sending out their own router (another one to add to the collection). Missus didn't ask what kind of router it is, but we'll see soon enough. Biddy on the phone mentioned some crap about having to leave the new router plugged in and not power down for 10 days after we get it. No idea what that is all about.

green123

TheTechGuy wrote: »

I'm with upc at the moment so I can't check but I'd be happy enough with a solid 8meg connection. Paying upc for a 25meg connection but it's more than I need really. I do download a bit but I'm prepared to wait a couple more minutes if it means I'll be paying much less a month. It wasn't so long ago I had a 2mb connection from upc and sure that done me!

i feel the same about upc, i think most people dont need the huge speeds that they offer and most people would prefer an 8 or 10 meg connection if it was available and cost less.

the cheapest broadband upc offer at the moment is 44 euro for a 50Mb connection. they should really have something on offer at around 25 euro.

i dont think you would even have to wait longer for downloads.
unless you are downloading a few things at the same time most sites dont allow downloads faster than that anyway do they ?

Fresh Pots

Yeah upc need a 8 or 10Mb plan. The way I see it is I either pay €74 to UPC per month or I give sky a go and pay €60 pm and get sufficient bb, phone and a better tv service from sky.

Kristopherus

Nuno wrote: »

Missus just got the call from Sky a few mins ago. We'd signed up earlier this year on their website expressing interest. Went with the €17.50 deal, locked in for 12months. Interestingly, they're sending out their own router (another one to add to the collection). Missus didn't ask what kind of router it is, but we'll see soon enough. Biddy on the phone mentioned some crap about having to leave the new router plugged in and not power down for 10 days after we get it. No idea what that is all about.

You can see the type of router here https://interest.sky.com/broadband-talk/

zg3409

It seems be a broadband modem and a cordless phone base station in one unit, hence the name "hub" similar to the BT hub in the UK.

dubmick

Just got the call from Sky. I've asked them to confirm if they will be able to offer fibre?My exchange is due to be upgraded at Easter. He said he would check this for me. This would be a deal breaker for me if they couldn't.

I am with Vodafone at the moment and get 4mb (manually set by tech guys in Vodafone) even though my line tests only show I can get 3mb. Also, I have a sure signal box so will need to check if this works with other providers.

Don't think I need the 7.50 international calls deal so my my monthly phone bill would only be 10 euro a month. Very difficult to turn that down!

Cheerful Spring

TheTechGuy wrote: »

I'm with upc at the moment so I can't check but I'd be happy enough with a solid 8meg connection. Paying upc for a 25meg connection but it's more than I need really. I do download a bit but I'm prepared to wait a couple more minutes if it means I'll be paying much less a month. It wasn't so long ago I had a 2mb connection from upc and sure that done me!

Mate a 7 meg connection with Eircom is 32 Euro a month plus line rental plus tax at 21 per cent.

You'd be better off staying with UPC even if you don't use the broadband bandwidth you got.

Vico1612

Nuno wrote: »

Missus just got the call from Sky a few mins ago. We'd signed up earlier this year on their website expressing interest. Went with the €17.50 deal, locked in for 12months. Interestingly, they're sending out their own router (another one to add to the collection). Missus didn't ask what kind of router it is, but we'll see soon enough. Biddy on the phone mentioned some crap about having to leave the new router plugged in and not power down for 10 days after we get it. No idea what that is all about.

Here's the reason for the 10 days thing :

http://help.sky.com/broadband/broadband-speeds/fluctuating-speeds-in-your-first-ten-days?country=ie

bodonnell

Do you have to use sky's router or can you use your own ?

zg3409

bodonnell wrote: »

Do you have to use sky's router or can you use your own ?

Most ISPs will only support their own router, so if you use another and have problems then you are on your own. Personally I have disabled wireless on routers and used my own one afterwards instead of theirs.

Assuming you are on an Eircom exchange with eircom equipment at the other end I can't see why another make would not work. You would need the settings.

Onikage

I assume the good deals are only for people on LLU exchanges?

dubmick

Just off the phone from Sky, they won't be offering fibre broadband when it becomes available in my area. I'm out. Pity.

dam099

ted1 wrote: »

Targets for sales which leads to bonuses, calls are recorded fit training not for you to catch them out.

If they record you I believe data protection laws mean you can get access to the recordings even if they would rather you couldn't.

ted1

dam099 wrote: »

If they record you I believe data protection laws mean you can get access to the recordings even if they would rather you couldn't.

Believe all you like, what's meant to happen and what happens are two totally different things.

Shyboy

I assume all of the people who Sky are currently phoning are all on LLU exchanges? Can anyone confirm?

jca

The Sparrow wrote: »

Just got a call from Sky offering me broadband. We have the full Sky Entertainment pack and Sky Sports but no Movies or HD. They offered me the following:

broadband light up to 24mb - 2gb monthly cap - free

broadband max - up to 24mb - no monthly cap or fair usage policy - 10 euro on top of Sky package

Phone 7.50 free evening calls to 20 countries.

To get the broadband, I have to take the phone. So it would be €17.50 a month on top of my monthly Sky bill. No brainer as we are currently paying Vodafone about €50 for the same. I specifically asked what the fair usage policy was on the broadband max package and they told me that it is genuinely unlimited and that there is no fair usage policy.

I got a call from sky too because I signed up as being interested when the broadband was available. I have entertainment package+HD+ movies and multiroom totalling €91 pm. The broadband is €10 + €1 for evening and weekend calls to Irish landlines including line rental (I asked specifically about line rental). Totally unlimited with the max speed my line can handle which is 15 meg. I committed over the phone and the router is being dispatched. When the paperwork arrives I'll give it a good read over and keep everyone posted. It's not available to the general public until Feb next year. Upc BB is not available in my area and if their so called digital TV service which I endured for 1 long long year is anything to go by.........They can keep it.
Sky all the way for me.

jca

dubmick wrote: »

Just got the call from Sky. I've asked them to confirm if they will be able to offer fibre?My exchange is due to be upgraded at Easter. He said he would check this for me. This would be a deal breaker for me if they couldn't.

I am with Vodafone at the moment and get 4mb (manually set by tech guys in Vodafone) even though my line tests only show I can get 3mb. Also, I have a sure signal box so will need to check if this works with other providers.

Don't think I need the 7.50 international calls deal so my my monthly phone bill would only be 10 euro a month. Very difficult to turn that down!

I don't think your exchange being upgraded to fibre will make any difference connection-wise at your end. I just means that the feed into the exchange is fibre with all the copper lines to individual premises remain unchanged. My exchange was upgraded to fibre last year and I'm getting sky BB. My exchange is LLU which could be the reason my line rental is gone.