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Too many marathons very bad for you!

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    #62
    SnappyDresser
    Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭SnappyDresser


    TFBubendorfer wrote: »
    :eek: I hope you're kidding.

    Unfortunately not. Running has marginal impact on elevated cholesterol levels. Many runners assume that they never need to get it checked but find out later in life they have had high cholesterol all during their running lives :P
    Personally have been on them for over 15years along with fish oil. Running only helps very modestly unfortunately. Its no panacea.


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    #63
    Krusty_Clown
    Registered Users Posts: 19,510 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    i008787 wrote: »
    Many people over 50 who are running should also be on statins.
    Your post is worded in a manner that would seem to make a connection between high cholestrol and running, where I assume you did not mean to. What you probably meant to say was:
    Many people over 50 should also be on statins. Some of them may be runners.


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    #64
    TFBubendorfer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    Krusty_Clown wrote: »
    Your post is worded in a manner that would seem to make a connection between high cholestrol and running

    Yes, that's exactly how I read it.
    Krusty's alternative explanation makes a lot more sense to me.


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    #65
    SnappyDresser
    Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭SnappyDresser


    TFBubendorfer wrote: »
    Yes, that's exactly how I read it.
    Krusty's alternative explanation makes a lot more sense to me.

    :) Yes of course your right. My wording was a little unclear.


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    #66
    PaulieC
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭PaulieC


    it's all bad news...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6U728AZnV0


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    #67
    rom
    Registered Users Posts: 5,137 ✭✭✭rom


    cambo_gueno wrote: »
    it's all bad news...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6U728AZnV0

    This is the guy who wrote the original paper from the OP.


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    #68
    TRR
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭TRR


    cambo_gueno wrote: »
    it's all bad news...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6U728AZnV0

    Jesus I want to punch this guy, hard in the face. His style wrecks my head


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    #69
    PaulieC
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭PaulieC


    TRR wrote: »
    Jesus I want to punch this guy, hard in the face. His style wrecks my head

    Yes, I took an immediate dislike to him. So smug.


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    #70
    rom
    Registered Users Posts: 5,137 ✭✭✭rom


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkGMY63FF3Q


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    #71
    SnappyDresser
    Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭SnappyDresser


    cambo_gueno wrote: »
    Yes, I took an immediate dislike to him. So smug.

    Dont shoot the messenger. He knows what he is talking about. Its a BIG eye opener. Simply put 60mins 2/3 times a week. Marathons equal scarring. I think we should watch the video a few times as the message seems clear to me:)


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    #72
    PaulieC
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭PaulieC


    i008787 wrote: »
    Dont shoot the messenger. He knows what he is talking about. Its a BIG eye opener. Simply put 60mins 2/3 times a week. Marathons equal scarring. I think we should watch the video a few times as the message seems clear to me:)

    Well he's not really the messenger, he's talking about his own research. In any case, I don't believe or disbelieve him. There is far too much conflicting information out there that I'd prefer to go my own way. I know one for definite though, whether I run fast, sow or not at all I will die at some stage :D


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    #73
    dna_leri
    Registered Users Posts: 2,623 ✭✭✭dna_leri


    i008787 wrote: »
    Unfortunately not. Running has marginal impact on elevated cholesterol levels. Many runners assume that they never need to get it checked but find out later in life they have had high cholesterol all during their running lives :P
    Personally have been on them for over 15years along with fish oil. Running only helps very modestly unfortunately. Its no panacea.

    Neither fish oil nor statins are a panacea either.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/panacea

    and looking at some of the side effects of statins, I think I'd prefer to run a marathon.

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/statin-side-effects/MY00205


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    #74
    SnappyDresser
    Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭SnappyDresser


    All medicines carry a risk but if one has high cholesterol often it needs a statin regardless of whether one has good diet and exercises. Funny thing is the newest statin the so called gorilla statin rosuvastatin works on even 1mg dose [30% ldl reduction]. A truly amazing statin.


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    #75
    dna_leri
    Registered Users Posts: 2,623 ✭✭✭dna_leri


    i008787 wrote: »
    All medicines carry a risk but if one has high cholesterol often it needs a statin regardless of whether one has good diet and exercises. Funny thing is the newest statin the so called gorilla statin rosuvastatin works on even 1mg dose [30% ldl reduction]. A truly amazing statin.

    ok, I thought you were encouraging the use of statins in runners and O-50's, if not then the original statement becomes:
    Many people over 50 may be on statins. Some of them may be runners.


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    #76
    dev123
    Closed Accounts Posts: 420 ✭✭dev123


    Has ray lanigan seen this thread? Someone better give him a call!!!


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    #77
    ciaranmac
    Registered Users Posts: 495 ✭✭ciaranmac


    rom wrote: »
    This is the guy who wrote the original paper from the OP.

    And his research didn't extend as far as the fact that Pheidippides didn't collapse dead at the emperor's throne, because Athens was a republic. I stopped watching at that point...

    (There are a few versions of that story, one has him running 40km and dying, another has him running 250km in a day and a half and not dying.)


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    #78
    TRR
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    ciaranmac wrote: »
    And his research didn't extend as far as the fact that Pheidippides didn't collapse dead at the emperor's throne, because Athens was a republic. I stopped watching at that point...

    (There are a few versions of that story, one has him running 40km and dying, another has him running 250km in a day and a half and not dying.)

    Yes watched a documentary on the BBC before and they said that Pheidippides may not have collapsed dead at the end of that run as there is mention of him in subsequent writings etc.


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    #79
    ultraman1
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    ciaranmac wrote: »

    (There are a few versions of that story, one has him running 40km and dying, another has him running 250km in a day and a half and not dying.)
    accordin to garminicus it was 235k,but polarisisemus disputes this and reckons it was more like 39km,and as it was a commercial war and not permitted by the spartan athlethics assoc , it dosent count


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    #80
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users Posts: 16,156 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    ciaranmac wrote: »
    (There are a few versions of that story, one has him running 40km and dying, another has him running 250km in a day and a half and not dying.)

    He definitely died.


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    #81
    pgmcpq
    Registered Users Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭pgmcpq


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    He definitely died.

    Don't think so. He's been spotted doing a tempo session in Vagas recently where he works as a bike messenger.


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    #82
    dna_leri
    Registered Users Posts: 2,623 ✭✭✭dna_leri


    Good article here: http://impruvism.com/athletes-heart-1/
    Athlete’s Heart: Why Bigger is Not Always Better, or Worse
    What doesn’t kill you does not always make you stronger.
    But it doesn’t necessarily make you weaker, either.
    At least when it comes to exercise and your heart.
    Most data indicates that in the short-term, exercise doesn’t cause heart damage, even if it makes your heart a little tired.
    However, this doesn’t tell us how it affects your heart in the long-term.
    In this article, we’ll look at one of the last stages of the cardiotoxicity cycle — how exercise changes your heart over time, and how these changes affect your health.


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