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Does Satan Get a Bad Rap?

  • 30-11-2012 3:15pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 558 ✭✭✭OurLadyofKnock


    He tells a woman to fight for her independence and stop her and her fella from being bullied by some bloke in the clouds.

    He is sent by the bloke in the clouds to 'test' this poor bastard called Job with a horrible life. He protests to God that his treatment of Job is not very nice.

    He gets an army (he is called Lucifer at this stage) and wages war on the bloke in the clouds who loves genocide, plagues and killing babies. But they lose the war and he is thrown out of heaven.

    But get this, it is a smart move as he gets his own kingdom in the end.

    I think we need a revision of the so called evils of this Satan/Lucifer chap. Invite him over for a cup of tea and allow him to give his side of the story.

    On the whole, he seems to have only wanted freedom for humans and angels. I bet he is a decent chap regardless of the bad PR.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    Does he get a bad rap? Yes if it's performed by professor green.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    And God killed puppies. Remember that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    Especially from dyslexics at Christmas.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 558 ✭✭✭OurLadyofKnock


    and Sodomites.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,914 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    Hail Satan!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    OPs ironic username is ironic


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 459 ✭✭RainMaker


    "Better to reign in Hell than to serve in Heaven"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Rented Mule




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    OP you got your facts wrong. Satan isn't actually in the bible. He is mostly made up and different characters have been linked outside the bible to connect different characters together.
    If you take the bible as true satan doesn't exist. If you push it there is an angel who does things for god that are evil. He didn't do them for himself but in the name of god.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,494 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Satan is cool in my books, way cooler then Jesus. Satan was the first rebel, who told god to f*ck off. Just a total badass.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭deathrider


    Satan doesn't rap, he's a metalhead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    The Eishockey player from Slowakia? What did he do wrong?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,809 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    deathrider wrote: »
    Satan doesn't rap, he's a metalhead.

    he's clearly in the domain of dance



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 422 ✭✭BensonSlide


    The guy was caught cheating at the poker table one night. Saw it with my own eyes. Have no time for him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    Lord of the Underworld, Lucifer, the bringer of light




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Assuming, for the sake of argument, that God and Satan exist I think Satan gets a bad rap through no fault of his own. If God is omnipotent then Satan can't do anything except what God wants him too; if he were able to go against God's will then God wouldn't be omnipotent, so everything bad that 'Satan' gets the blame for is actually the will of God. Satan is God's whipping boy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭Calibos




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Real Life


    If i had to pick between heaven and hell i know where id want to go.
    Hell is the party zone, thats where the good stuff goes down. Satan would be throwing partys that would put p.diddy to shame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,120 ✭✭✭furiousox


    It's all here lads.
    Less of the "get me behind me satan" more of the "come in me old mate, have a cup of tea"

    CPL 593H



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    The main tenets of Satanism in song form. Most of it fairly sensible really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,465 ✭✭✭Archeron


    667 - the number of the man who lives next door to the beast.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    I keep thinking this thread is about Santa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,120 ✭✭✭furiousox


    Archeron wrote: »
    667 - the number of the man who lives next door to the beast.


    http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41qbQ4p6zsL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

    CPL 593H



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    God needs Satan.

    Satan makes us choose good from bad, wheres God says OBEY MEH!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    He tells a woman to fight for her independence and stop her and her fella from being bullied by some bloke in the clouds.
    ??
    He is sent by the bloke in the clouds to 'test' this poor bastard called Job with a horrible life. He protests to God that his treatment of Job is not very nice.

    Biblically in Job, Satan challenges God for being too nice to Job:
    Job 2:3-6 wrote:
    And the LORD said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, who fears God and turns away from evil? He still holds fast his integrity, although you incited me against him to destroy him without reason.” Then Satan answered the LORD and said, “Skin for skin! All that a man has he will give for his life. But stretch out your hand and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse you to your face.” [6] And the LORD said to Satan, “Behold, he is in your hand; only spare his life.”
    He gets an army (he is called Lucifer at this stage) and wages war on the bloke in the clouds who loves genocide, plagues and killing babies. But they lose the war and he is thrown out of heaven.

    Where is this in the Bible?
    But get this, it is a smart move as he gets his own kingdom in the end.

    If you're referring to hell. The Bible doesn't teach that Satan is lord over it. Revelation 20:10 says that the devil is in hell, not as lord over it, but as one who is being condemned.
    I think we need a revision of the so called evils of this Satan/Lucifer chap. Invite him over for a cup of tea and allow him to give his side of the story.

    It seems that you've not even understood what the Bible says about Satan.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    philologos wrote: »
    ??



    Biblically in Job, Satan challenges God for being too nice to Job:




    Where is this in the Bible?



    If you're referring to hell. The Bible doesn't teach that Satan is lord over it. Revelation 20:10 says that the devil is in hell, not as lord over it, but as one who is being condemned.



    It seems that you've not even understood what the Bible says about Satan.

    Who cares about particulars? All that matters is, Satan stuck it to the man. He was rock n' roll before it was cool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,120 ✭✭✭furiousox


    He's buried in Killarney you know.

    CPL 593H



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Sin City


    furiousox wrote: »
    He's buried in Killarney you know.

    Ah I heard he rose again and joined the British army


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,465 ✭✭✭Archeron


    furiousox wrote: »

    thank you, that sounds much better.

    665.99 - the retail price of the beast :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Satan is pretty baddass in my book. The whole angle on him being evil is from a time when not obeying authority figures was the worst thing someone could do. God isn't about love, he's about obedience. Rising up against an omnipotent God is pretty ballsy, you have to concede. If I was one of the Angelic host and I had to spend eternity singing His praises and telling Him how great He is, being sent to bring plagues to humankind and being treated as a slave...I'd join Lucifer in a second.

    What I always find funny is that in movies the end of the world is brought about by the Devil and the heroes have to stop him. Eh, no. Please see Revelations; God orders the doom of humankind and sends Angels to carry out the apocalyptic horrors he has devised. He drowned every last living thing on the Earth once, save for a miniscule population on a boat.

    Assuming, of course, that it isn't all made up. Which it is, of course.


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