Fitted suspension kit to rear,its now higher?

gollywog

As above, bought a suspension cup kit, got rear done today but it's exactly the same if not a touch higher... Wtf like? Anythin im missing?

tossy

Did you fit the kit all round ? Are the springs in the right side up ?

gollywog

tossy wrote: »

Did you fit the kit all round ? Are the springs in the right side up ?

No just the rear today, I presume they are right way up, my mechanic would do a lot of this kind of thing?

burke027

Whats the make and model of the car are you sure everything is fitted correctly. Secondly have you drove the car since its being fitted as you need to drive it to let the suspension settle on the car.

Drummerboy08

Yeah, it will take a few days or the suspension to settle down.

gollywog

burke027 wrote: »

Whats the make and model of the car are you sure everything is fitted correctly. Secondly have you drove the car since its being fitted as you need to drive it to let the suspension settle on the car.

Mk5 gti. Well my mechanic did it so I'm pretty sure he'd be able to do it properly? Ya I've driven a bit but not very far, how much would it normally settle? It'll be getting ripped out and thrown in the bin if it doesn't settle down ALOT

Stallingrad

I don't think it will settle if it looks way off, something is wrong.

gollywog

Stallingrad wrote: »

I don't think it will settle if it looks way off, something is wrong.

Well it looks standard gti suspension like, its not 4x4 territory lol!

s14driftking

i lowered my 5 series a few weeks aback and it is only settling now. find a bumpy road and drive hard enough over it might help a bit

gollywog

s14driftking wrote: »

i lowered my 5 series a few weeks aback and it is only settling now. find a bumpy road and drive hard enough over it might help a bit

That long? OK so ill give it a go!
How much roughly did it settle down if you don't mind me asking?

tossy

It's not going to look right until you fit matching suspension all round,not to mention the rear is now going to have handling characteristics that don't match and probably out handle the front.

gollywog

tossy wrote: »

It's not going to look right until you fit matching suspension all round,not to mention the rear is now going to have handling characteristics that don't match and probably out handle the front.

Cheers tossy.
Right ill get it all fitted and go from there. The back feels more solid, does that make sense?

navara man

put a bag of coal or two in the boot that will lower it for you

gollywog

navara man wrote: »

put a bag of coal or two in the boot that will lower it for you

Well i only tried it as i got it on an insane special offer so its not gonna cost me much if i wanna bin it, but still i cant believe how its turned out!

Supergurrier

Pink Qashqai !

enumbers

Was the kit definitely for a gti if not possibly then it would not lower an already factory lowered car.

gollywog

enumbers wrote: »

Was the kit definitely for a gti if not possibly then it would not lower an already factory lowered car.

Ya i asked them that and they said it would lower 40mm on top of the factory lowering. But if im not happy ill just sell it to someone and get a h&r cup kit or somethin. Maybe even coilovers. I'll see how it goes anyway. I just couldn't believe my eyes, some shock!

scooters

Front spring fitted into the rear? Seen it done before!

dar83

Why did you only get the rears fitted?

gollywog

scooters wrote: »

Front spring fitted into the rear? Seen it done before!

Quite possibly, ill be talking to the lad that fitted them later now so i'll say it

dar83 wrote: »

Why did you only get the rears fitted?

Because ryan told me to come up and get it done, halfway through he had to leave, will be fitting the front soon. Would it make a difference only having the rears done in relation to why its sitting so high?

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dar83

If they're supposed to drop it 40mm then I doubt it's a settling issue alone. The guys are right with what they've said re: settling, but for that kind of a drop you should be seeing a drop already on standard and the settling would be a small amount on that again.

Wait until the fronts are on it as well to judge it properly though.

mickdw

From the pic, there seems to be a bit of a drop there already but not alot. Its not going to give you 40mm extra that for sure.

gollywog

dar83 wrote: »

If they're supposed to drop it 40mm then I doubt it's a settling issue alone. The guys are right with what they've said re: settling, but for that kind of a drop you should be seeing a drop already on standard and the settling would be a small amount on that again.

Wait until the fronts are on it as well to judge it properly though.

mickdw wrote: »

From the pic, there seems to be a bit of a drop there already but not alot. Its not going to give you 40mm extra that for sure.

Ya ill bang on the fronts, wait a week or two and if im not happy i'll save up for some proper suspension

sean1141

Are you sure it's not 40mm on a standard golf? The gti could be 30mm lower from the factory.

The cupkit I got for the Leon was for lowering them 35mm but as mine was the fr model it was 15mm lower from the factory so the kit only lowered it 20mm

gollywog

sean1141 wrote: »

Are you sure it's not 40mm on a standard golf? The gti could be 30mm lower from the factory.

The cupkit I got for the Leon was for lowering them 35mm but as mine was the fr model it was 15mm lower from the factory so the kit only lowered it 20mm

Yes that crossed my mind alright, so I found a u.s website selling them that had an online chat option asked them, they confirmed it should drop between 30-40mm on top of the already lower gti setup

gollywog

Could I just buy some eibach sport line springs or h&r springs to use with the fk dampers?

gollywog

Lads on mk5gti.co.uk think i bought the wrong kit.... ****sticks! Anyone got a regular mk5 that needs lowering?!

Matt Simis

Putting on tyres with a bit of meat on them would fill the gap too and achieve the same thing. They look too short on the sidewalls, like an aftermarket job.


But yeah you certainly seem to have a kit for a Mk5 std Golf. I would be wary about buying from or listening to US sellers on such things as US spec "imports" frequently have different (higher) suspension due to their appalling roads, onramps with huge "humps" and those insane bump stop things in parking bays.

Most Euro cars over there run on what could be called "lift kits" compared to original, correct heights.

gollywog

Matt Simis wrote: »

Putting on tyres with a bit of meat on them would fill the gap too and achieve the same thing. They look too short on the sidewalls, like an aftermarket job.


But yeah you certainly seem to have a kit for a Mk5 std Golf. I would be wary about buying from or listening to US sellers on such things as US spec "imports" frequently have different (higher) suspension due to their appalling roads, onramps with huge "humps" and those insane bump stop things in parking bays.

Most Euro cars over there run on what could be called "lift kits" compared to original, correct heights.

Cheers man your right.
I had a feeling it was too good to be true but feck it like, wasn't dear.

Thinking just h&r springs for now as my shocks are in decent condition.

Then save for proper suspension, kW, bilstein or something like that.

I don't want it slammed but I don't want a gap in the wheel arch either

Matt Simis

Id say leave it a couple of days, it may not be -40 but it is something. Also ensure you have the same amount of fuel in it for the before and after photos! :cool:

Gary ITR

gollywog wrote: »

Cheers man your right.
I had a feeling it was too good to be true but feck it like, wasn't dear.

Thinking just h&r springs for now as my shocks are in decent condition.

Then save for proper suspension, kW, bilstein or something like that.

I don't want it slammed but I don't want a gap in the wheel arch either

LOL ya clown.......

If I was you, I'd wait and do it properly when funds allow, what you're spending on suspension now could be spent elsewhere like upgraded pads, braided brake lines or even a few nice pints!

mathepac

What make suspension kit? Is the kit adjustable (ride height)? Are they coil-overs? Have you checked all the bushings for wear/replacement? Have you factored in the cost of having the suspension geometry checked and possibly adjusted?

gollywog

Gary ITR wrote: »

LOL ya clown.......

If I was you, I'd wait and do it properly when funds allow, what you're spending on suspension now could be spent elsewhere like upgraded pads, braided brake lines or even a few nice pints!

Live and learn I guess Gary!
The brakes could have been good but I'm a recovering alcoholic so can't go near the pints, havent touched a drop in nearly 4 years

gollywog

mathepac wrote: »

What make suspension kit? Is the kit adjustable (ride height)? Are they coil-overs? Have you checked all the bushings for wear/replacement? Have you factored in the cost of having the suspension geometry checked and possibly adjusted?

Fk cup kit... Got it cheap. There non adjustable and bushes seem fine. Guess I'll take it as a lesson learned!

Gary ITR

gollywog wrote: »

Live and learn I guess Gary!
The brakes could have been good but I'm a recovering alcoholic so can't go near the pints, havent touched a drop in nearly 4 years

Rehab is for quitters.....*




*good work, keep it up

CianRyan

CUT DA SPRINGS LAAAD!


Don't really though.

tossy

gollywog wrote: »

Fk cup kit... Got it cheap. There non adjustable and bushes seem fine. Guess I'll take it as a lesson learned!

What? there's your problem right there,the best thing you could do with them is remove them and bounce them into space - FK are ****e.

gollywog

Gary ITR wrote: »

Rehab is for quitters.....*




*[SIZE="1"]good work, keep it up[/SIZE]

Cheers man, was a tough auld battle, i wouldnt be here today if I hadn't quit. But the interest in motors is a great distraction lol! So what would you recommend I do gar? Springs? Coilovers? Any advice welcome

gollywog

tossy wrote: »

What? there's your problem right there,the best thing you could do with them is remove them and bounce them into space - FK are ****e.

Yes they are, again man, what would you recommend I do?

tossy

gollywog wrote: »

Yes they are, again man, what would you recommend I do?

H&R Cup kit or decent brand coilovers like H&R,Koni,KW etc.

Buy sh!te buy twice unfortunately.

gollywog

tossy wrote: »

H&R Cup kit or decent brand coilovers like H&R,Koni,KW etc.

Buy sh!te buy twice unfortunately.

Yup i'll know that in future anyway tossy!!

Might know where theres a h&r cup kit for sale secondhand, watch this space!

sean1141

+1 for a H&R cupkit. I had it on my Leon. Lowered the car just nicely but did not take away any of the comfort which was a big thing for me. They can't be adjusted but it's not the end of the world.
I compared them to some cheap coilovers before fitting them and the build quality was night and day.

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After

gollywog

sean1141 wrote: »

+1 for a H&R cupkit. I had it on my Leon. Lowered the car just nicely but did not take away any of the comfort which was a big thing for me. They can't be adjusted but it's not the end of the world.
I compared them to some cheap coilovers before fitting them and the build quality was night and day.

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After

Looks exactly like what im after man.
Been in touch with someone selling a cup kit so hopefully be getting that when he upgrades to coilovers after christmas, dont mind waiting until then to get it right

GEasy

Might be worth talking to keith in alloy-wheels.ie about that cup kit. I've heard nothing but praise for the H&R ones.

Gary ITR

gollywog wrote: »

Cheers man, was a tough auld battle, i wouldnt be here today if I hadn't quit. But the interest in motors is a great distraction lol! So what would you recommend I do gar? Springs? Coilovers? Any advice welcome

Burn the car and use the Insurance money to buy a Honda, I can get my hands on a selection of TEIN S-Tech springs. Or do what Tossy said, it's up to you :P

gollywog

Gary ITR wrote: »

Burn the car and use the Insurance money to buy a Honda, I can get my hands on a selection of TEIN S-Tech springs. Or do what Tossy said, it's up to you :P

Ya i know where there might be a second hand cup kit for sale soon and I have first refusal, sorted hopefully!

gollywog

Drove about two hundred miles for a county final last night with the rears still on and 5 people in the car, she's lower now, but it didn't feel bad on the back roads which was surprising, there up for sale now, but if these are ****e, cant wait to get h&r's!