The Boss is coming to town

gimmick

July 18th 2013 - Bruce Springsteen in Pairc Ui Caoimh!

When last was there a big gig there? Feile 95?

http://www.aikenpromotions.com/component/eventlist/details/9610.html

leahyl

gimmick wrote: »

July 18th 2013 - Bruce Springsteen in Pairc Ui Caoimh!

When last was there a big gig there? Feile 95?

http://www.aikenpromotions.com/component/eventlist/details/9610.html

Think last gig was Oasis wasn't it?!

Great news for Cork fans of the Boss - my friends went to see him this year in Dublin but I didn't go as I do like him but wouldn't know too much of his stuff - they said it was amazing though so am tempted to go to this now - would be great if a load of friends went together - what a night that would be:)

Lyaiera

I hope because he's doing Limerick and Cork gigs and they're both stadium gigs the tickets will be cheaper than the usual Boss gigs.

Edit: €90. But I imagine that's cheaper than a usual Springsteen gig.

Ash.J.Williams

Lyaiera wrote: »

I hope because he's doing Limerick and Cork gigs and they're both stadium gigs the tickets will be cheaper than the usual Boss gigs.

ha ha ha ha ha

Lyaiera

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

ha ha ha ha ha

Why are you laughing?

Flesh Gorden

Lyaiera wrote: »

Why are you laughing?

At a guess, because of the ticket price at the bottom of the link

Tickets for:

LIMERICK, Thomond Park - 16 July 2013

CORK, Páirc Uí Chaoimh - 18 July 2013

€90 General Admission / €100 Seated

Ash.J.Williams

Lyaiera wrote: »

Why are you laughing?

apologies, i just laughed at the thought of your common sense being a applied to irish gigs, the most exploited gigs in Europe, where every effort will be made to rip off as many punters as possible.

edit:
90 quid...jaysus

Jimmy Macnulty

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

apologies, i just laughed at the thought of your common sense being a applied to irish gigs, the most exploited gigs in Europe, where every effort will be made to rip off as many punters as possible.

edit:
90 quid...jaysus

Expensive compared to other acts that come to these shores but you have obviously never seen the man live. 3 hour + show. well worth it imo

leahyl

Or you could just sit on the grass outside the stadium and listen:pac:

Ash.J.Williams

Jimmy Macnulty wrote: »

Expensive compared to other acts that come to these shores but you have obviously never seen the man live. 3 hour + show. well worth it imo

i have seen him many times...It's not him charging the 90 quid, he has a flat fee and it's up the promoter to maximise profits...
90 euro to see bruce- fair enough

to bring the family....not a f**ing hope...

gustafo

id have no bothers paying 90 sheets to see bruce but paying that kind of money to see him in a crap hole like Pairc Ui Caoimh is another story!

they would want to put a lick of paint in the place and do something about those shocking seats.

Ludo

Will be booking tickets for thomand park. Perfect for the mother in law to babysit and better venue. Can't wait.

evilivor

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

i have seen him many times...It's not him charging the 90 quid, he has a flat fee and it's up the promoter to maximise profits...

The artist sets the price, it is in association with the promoter, but it is the artist who decides.

Roar

evilivor wrote: »

The artist sets the price, it is in association with the promoter, but it is the artist who decides.

Nope. Artist sets fee/haggles with promoter. They're paid that whether 1,000 or 10,000 turn up, and of course they have their merchandise sales on top of that.

The promoter sets the ticket price to cover the cost of the act/artist, venue hire, PA, security, markerting, ticketmaster etc, and after all that is taken care of they want to see a profit. So the promoter sets the ticket price entirely. The act has nothing to do with it.

lisasimpson

how many for a concert does the place hold. didnt think they would get gigs till after the re development

evilivor

Roar wrote: »

Nope. Artist sets fee/haggles with promoter. They're paid that whether 1,000 or 10,000 turn up, and of course they have their merchandise sales on top of that.

The promoter sets the ticket price to cover the cost of the act/artist, venue hire, PA, security, markerting, ticketmaster etc, and after all that is taken care of they want to see a profit. So the promoter sets the ticket price entirely. The act has nothing to do with it.

Jim Carroll has been fighting an, apparently, losing battle on this misinformation on his blog and in the Irish Times for a number of teas, particularly after high profile price gouging by Tom Waits and Arcade Fire.

Artist sets price.

horgan_p

Well I know what I want from santa now....

ABajaninCork

Slightly OT, but does anyone know what acts will be in the Marquee next year yet?

Rhys Essien

Why are they holding this concert in probably the biggest sh1thole of a venue in the country,as it stands now?.The mind boggles.

It was on radio today that the redevelopment is starting in 2013 and will be finished by 2015.

Could they not wait 2 years and have him the opening concert.

If the GAA are looking for a few bob,look at all the money they lost out on over the last sixteen years since Oasis in 1996.

I taught all along that they couldnt hold concerts there due to health and safety reasons.Nothing has changed since 1996.

Bruce will think he is after arriving in Chernobyl.:o

Spindle

Rhys Essien wrote: »

Why are they holding this concert in probably the biggest sh1thole of a venue in the country,as it stands now?.The mind boggles.

It was on radio today that the redevelopment is starting in 2013 and will be finished by 2015.

Could they not wait 2 years and have him the opening concert.

If the GAA are looking for a few bob,look at all the money they lost out on over the last sixteen years since Oasis in 1996.

I taught all along that they couldnt hold concerts there due to health and safety reasons.Nothing has changed since 1996.

Bruce will think he is after arriving in Chernobyl.:o

Have not been in there for years, but from what I remember it is a dump and falling apart, getting into the place is a nightmare as well, the turn styles are so small and tight.

I wonder what size the crowd will be?? Surely no more than 15,000??

Spindle

ABajaninCork wrote: »

Slightly OT, but does anyone know what acts will be in the Marquee next year yet?

A live feed from the Bruce Springsteen concerts, just to milk it a bit more :rolleyes:

run_Forrest_run

ya gotta love the Boss, he builds a career writing songs for the working class man, he seems to have forgotten what it's like for the working man these days while he sets his ticket prices.

I wouldn't go to Páirc Uí Chaoimh to see a u-12 hurling match for fear of over-crowding, never mind the Boss

yew_tree

run_Forrest_run wrote: »

ya gotta love the Boss, he builds a career writing songs for the working class man, he seems to have forgotten what it's like for the working man these days while he sets his ticket prices.

I wouldn't go to Páirc Uí Chaoimh to see a u-12 hurling match for fear of over-crowding, never mind the Boss

In fairness it is the concert promoters that set the price. Springsteen charges a flat rate for each show. Aiken promotions are the real culprits here

JP Liz V1

Great news fingers crossed it dont flood around then though

leahyl

Looks like I'm going to my first Springsteen concert and in my home city - how bad :-)

cometogether

Anyone know if this will be the only gig in Pairc Ui Chaoimh next summer? Would love to see the Stone Roses there

evilivor

cometogether wrote: »

Would love to see the Stone Roses there

Doubt it. Anyway, they were brutal the last time they played there.

cometogether

evilivor wrote: »

Doubt it. Anyway, they were brutal the last time they played there.

Really? Strange that, its renowned as one of their best ever gigs. Anyways, they weren't brutal last summer!

JP Liz V1

How many can this venue hold in total?

Rhys Essien

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

How many can this venue hold in total?

In 88' there was 110,000 at Michael Jackson's 2 concerts.

not sure how true.

Rhys Essien

Snaps here from the past concerts in Pairc Ui Chaoimh.

http://www.eveningecho.ie/cork-nostalgia-open-air-concerts/

evilivor

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

How many can this venue hold in total?

The capacity is 48,000 for concerts. Planned to go up to 60,000 for same if the upgrade goes ahead.

run_Forrest_run

yew_tree wrote: »

In fairness it is the concert promoters that set the price. Springsteen charges a flat rate for each show. Aiken promotions are the real culprits here

I do believe you are wrong here, various promoters are at pains to state that they do not set the ticket prices, it comes from the artist.

evilivor

run_Forrest_run wrote: »

I do believe you are wrong here, various promoters are at pains to state that they do not set the ticket prices, it comes from the artist.

100% correct. The artist sets the price.

leahyl

evilivor wrote: »

100% correct. The artist sets the price.

Then how come all concerts in Ireland are always way more expensive then in other countries - why do the artists always make their concerts in Ireland more expensive??

evilivor

leahyl wrote: »

Then how come all concerts in Ireland are always way more expensive then in other countries - why do the artists always make their concerts in Ireland more expensive??

Because we pay. There is also the logistics issue, and, apparently costs here higher, bust mostly, because we pay the high prices.

This is from the Irish Times when Arcade Fire were gouging fans on their tickets a couple of years ago:

"CANADIAN ROCK band Arcade Fire have taken the unusual step of responding to criticism from Irish fans about prices for their concert in the O2 in December.

Manager Scott Rodger said Arcade Fire would never try to rip off their fans.

Tickets go on pre-sale this morning and are priced between €55.80 and €66.70, but those who buy seating tickets through Ticketmaster will have to pay €73.05.

Mr Rodger responded to a thread on Irish Times music journalist Jim Carroll’s On the Record blog in which fans of the band described the €73 ticket price as “shockingly extortionate”, “the straw that broke the back for a lot of us” and “a herd of bullwinkles”.

They contrasted the prices with those being charged to see the band in the UK – £31.25 (€37.90) in the LG Arena in Birmingham and £34.50 (€42) in the O2 in London on the same tour.

The concert on December 5th here will also feature Vampire Weekend and Devendra Banhart.

Mr Rodger responded by saying that Ireland was an expensive country to get to, as was the UK, but the costs of playing in the UK were defrayed by being in a position to play many shows there (they are doing 10 in the UK).

While Arcade Fire get to control the price of the ticket, he said they could not control the fees charged by Ticketmaster. He urged fans to buy tickets at the lowest possible price from the band’s website. The tickets go on general release on Friday.

Mr Rodger said they aimed to give value for the money in Dublin by paying Vampire Weekend, a major act in their own right, a “real fee” while absorbing what they could within the ticket price.

He pointed out that they also donated the entire fee of $1 million (€775,000) from several recent shows to charity to help earthquake victims in Haiti.

He also took the step of asking fans to e-mail him with their observations about ticket prices.

“I’d be happy to talk with anyone about this as the band are not in any way attempting to rip off their fans, they

leahyl

evilivor wrote: »

Because we pay. There is also the logistics issue, and, apparently costs here higher, bust mostly, because we pay the high prices.

This is from the Irish Times when Arcade Fire were gouging fans on their tickets a couple of years ago:

"CANADIAN ROCK band Arcade Fire have taken the unusual step of responding to criticism from Irish fans about prices for their concert in the O2 in December.

Manager Scott Rodger said Arcade Fire would never try to rip off their fans.

Tickets go on pre-sale this morning and are priced between €55.80 and €66.70, but those who buy seating tickets through Ticketmaster will have to pay €73.05.

Mr Rodger responded to a thread on Irish Times music journalist Jim Carroll’s On the Record blog in which fans of the band described the €73 ticket price as “shockingly extortionate”, “the straw that broke the back for a lot of us” and “a herd of bullwinkles”.

They contrasted the prices with those being charged to see the band in the UK – £31.25 (€37.90) in the LG Arena in Birmingham and £34.50 (€42) in the O2 in London on the same tour.

The concert on December 5th here will also feature Vampire Weekend and Devendra Banhart.

Mr Rodger responded by saying that Ireland was an expensive country to get to, as was the UK, but the costs of playing in the UK were defrayed by being in a position to play many shows there (they are doing 10 in the UK).

While Arcade Fire get to control the price of the ticket, he said they could not control the fees charged by Ticketmaster. He urged fans to buy tickets at the lowest possible price from the band’s website. The tickets go on general release on Friday.

Mr Rodger said they aimed to give value for the money in Dublin by paying Vampire Weekend, a major act in their own right, a “real fee” while absorbing what they could within the ticket price.

He pointed out that they also donated the entire fee of $1 million (€775,000) from several recent shows to charity to help earthquake victims in Haiti.

He also took the step of asking fans to e-mail him with their observations about ticket prices.

“I’d be happy to talk with anyone about this as the band are not in any way attempting to rip off their fans, they

So Ticketmaster add on extra fees.....that seems to be the main problem from what I can see. But you're right, we're an awful pack of eejits for paying the money in the first place (I'll be paying it for Bruce:o even though it is pretty extortionate).

twowheelsonly

evilivor wrote: »

Because we pay. There is also the logistics issue, and, apparently costs here higher,

Mr Rodger responded by saying that....
While Arcade Fire get to control the price of the ticket, he said they could not control the fees charged by Ticketmaster. He urged fans to buy tickets at the lowest possible price from the band’s website. The tickets go on general release on Friday.

leahyl wrote: »

So Ticketmaster add on extra fees.....that seems to be the main problem from what I can see. But you're right, we're an awful pack of eejits for paying the money in the first place (I'll be paying it for Bruce:o even though it is pretty extortionate).

IIRC Ticketmaster charge somewhere between €3-5 for Tickets to the consumer. They also charge the promoter around a Euro. In my opinion they're perfectly justified in doing this as they're also in the business of making a few bob and they do give the best service of all the ticket companies. Admittedly their pricing policies are a bit harsh if you're buying a few tickets and I'd prefer if they had a sliding scale depending on how many you're buying but I'd imagine that it would be a nightmare for them to manage
Personally i think that it's a bit rich to blame TM for extortionate prices - particularly for bands/management to make reference to it - especially when their cut is the lowest by a long shot of those that are making money from that same ticket !!

Ultimately it's the promoter that sets the price but this is based on how much the act is charging as well as how much the promoters set-up costs are. (Venue hire, Gardai, Security, Stage /Production area, Transport, Accommodation & Food for their own crew, fencing & barriers and a host of other costs, particularly for one off shows). Bear in mind that it's also the promoter taking the risk if a show doesn't sell so they'll make hay on the ones that they know are 'bankers'.

I spoke to one of the crews travelling with Rihanna about this whole thing when they played in The O2 a couple of years ago. One point that they made was the on the subject of costs. They come to Ireland and hotel prices shoot up. The artist tries to book a hotel and it's at a premium rate so they end up scattered in cheaper hotels or sleeping in the trucks. They play in Europe and they stay in the best of hotels as they drop their prices to try to entice the artists and crew to stay with them. Typically, the Irish are constantly trying to make a buck from everything. Artists and their management know this and so that's all factored into their fee to cover their costs while they're here.

Back on topic... Looking forward to seeing this show. I've seen him half a dozen times and he's superb live. For anyone that hasn't seen his show, make sure to do so if you can afford it. You won't regret it!!

leahyl

twowheelsonly wrote: »

IIRC Ticketmaster charge somewhere between €3-5 for Tickets to the consumer. They also charge the promoter around a Euro. In my opinion they're perfectly justified in doing this as they're also in the business of making a few bob and they do give the best service of all the ticket companies. Admittedly their pricing policies are a bit harsh if you're buying a few tickets and I'd prefer if they had a sliding scale depending on how many you're buying but I'd imagine that it would be a nightmare for them to manage
Personally i think that it's a bit rich to blame TM for extortionate prices - particularly for bands/management to make reference to it - especially when their cut is the lowest by a long shot of those that are making money from that same ticket !!

Ultimately it's the promoter that sets the price but this is based on how much the act is charging as well as how much the promoters set-up costs are. (Venue hire, Gardai, Security, Stage /Production area, Transport, Accommodation & Food for their own crew, fencing & barriers and a host of other costs, particularly for one off shows). Bear in mind that it's also the promoter taking the risk if a show doesn't sell so they'll make hay on the ones that they know are 'bankers'.

I spoke to one of the crews travelling with Rihanna about this whole thing when they played in The O2 a couple of years ago. One point that they made was the on the subject of costs. They come to Ireland and hotel prices shoot up. The artist tries to book a hotel and it's at a premium rate so they end up scattered in cheaper hotels or sleeping in the trucks. They play in Europe and they stay in the best of hotels as they drop their prices to try to entice the artists and crew to stay with them. Typically, the Irish are constantly trying to make a buck from everything. Artists and their management know this and so that's all factored into their fee to cover their costs while they're here.

Back on topic... Looking forward to seeing this show. I've seen him half a dozen times and he's superb live. For anyone that hasn't seen his show, make sure to do so if you can afford it. You won't regret it!!

Thanks for that - this has to be the case, it's all down to this rip off country at the end of the day! The artist sets the price and then the promoter takes the piss!

I'm looking forward to seeing Bruce - will be my first time; I don't claim to be his biggest fan but I do like some of his stuff so looking forward to it:)

Big Daddy Cool

hey lads i booked the ambassador hotel for the boss concert, the reviews looked very good, we've never been to cork before, so can i ask is this hotel central to the city and to the concert, hopefully not to far to walk to after a few drinkies

evilivor

Big Daddy Cool wrote: »

hey lads i booked the ambassador hotel for the boss concert, the reviews looked very good, we've never been to cork before, so can i ask is this hotel central to the city and to the concert, hopefully not to far to walk to after a few drinkies

It's not in the city centre and is a good old walk up to it from town. You'd be better of getting a cab.

Big Daddy Cool

evilivor wrote: »

It's not in the city centre and is a good old walk up to it from town. You'd be better of getting a cab.

great , is it far from the centre, can anybody recommend anything in the centre

Roar

yeah it's a good half hour walk, if not more, up a big mad hill too

Big Daddy Cool

Roar wrote: »

yeah it's a good half hour walk, if not more, up a big mad hill too

Thanks might look for some place more closer to the city now, didnt think it was that far away.

ResearchWill

Big Daddy Cool wrote: »

hey lads i booked the ambassador hotel for the boss concert, the reviews looked very good, we've never been to cork before, so can i ask is this hotel central to the city and to the concert, hopefully not to far to walk to after a few drinkies

If you can get a room I would say the Clarion is a better bet, much closer to the venue and all the better bars in the City centre.

Big Daddy Cool

ResearchWill wrote: »

If you can get a room I would say the Clarion is a better bet, much closer to the venue and all the better bars in the City centre.

tried there its fairly expensive compared to what i got, what about the gresham metropole hotel?

ResearchWill

Big Daddy Cool wrote: »

tried there its fairly expensive compared to what i got, what about the gresham metropole hotel?

Metropole is ok, an extra 5 min walk, can be a little rough around there but not bad hotel.

I just checked the Clarion €200 a night is a bit saucy, if I was coming down and staying 2 nights I would give them a buzz about this deal http://www.clarionhotelcorkcity.com/special-offers/penthouse-sale-of-the-century.aspx

I have stayed in the Penthouse a few times prob the best hotel room in Cork, and only an extra €45 a night if staying 2 nights, don't be surprised if its gone but well worth it if you can get it.

The Penthouse includes full kitchen so can save a bit on eating out.

evilivor

Big Daddy Cool wrote: »

tried there its fairly expensive compared to what i got, what about the gresham metropole hotel?

Metropole is fine and a good bit closer to town than the Ambassador - Hotel Isaacs is another option just across from there.

The Imperial is worth looking at too as it's right in the city centre too.

Hotels.com have the Clarion for €120 vs €89 for the Ambassador - you'd nearly save the difference on cabs - it's also a very reasonable walk to Páirc Uí Chaoimh from there or the Imperial.

The Imperial is €109 or there is Lancaster Lodge - city too, but not quite as centre, for €79, it's a bit of a stroll from the venue but not a bad walk from the main drag for bars etc.

Newtown90

Want to go to it in the Pairc.. I'm guessing the ticketmaster in merchants quay will be the best place to que and get the tickets tomorrow morning? ( not able to book online - no visa )

corkonion

Re Hotels, the hotels that are located within the city or within a 10 min walk, are the imperial, the metrapole, jury's inn, the river Lee, Lancaster lodge, Maldon, clarion, other hotels that are within a €10 taxi ride are, rochestown park, hayfield manor, travel lodge, ammbasidor, montonotte, silver springs, if your stuck there are a few more that would be about €15~18 taxi fare including the maryborough, airport international, Vienna woods, and of course there are many guest houses and b+b's

Ludo

Been so long since I have been at a concert that I had forgotten what a ****E site ticketmaster is :mad: