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Greedy former Judge gets 2½ years custodial sentence.

  • 28-11-2012 12:16pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭


    Former Judge Heather Perrin has been sentenced to a 2½ years in prison for trying to embezzle ½ a million euros from the will of one of her clients.

    Good to see some justice being applied to the 'upper end' of society for a change.

    Former judge Perrin jailed for two and a half years


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Is 'prison' a holiday in Barbados?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Good news.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Is 'prison' a holiday in Barbados?

    I don't think any custodial sentence would be a 'holiday' tbh.

    She'll probably go to a women's prison and I doubt she'll do more than a 12/18 months but a prison sentence is a prison sentence nonetheless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Is 'prison' a holiday in Barbados?

    No. Stop looking for thanks. Good to see the thief getting her just deserts.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 510 ✭✭✭LivelineDipso


    Canon David Pierpoint also gave evidence to say he had known Perrin for 20 years through the Girls' Brigade and agreed there were so many good sides to her character.


    People like her always 'justify' their actions by thinking to themselves "sure he'll de dead soon and the money is of no use to him..."

    What makes this case so sickening is SHE COMES FROM MONEY. She is not poor and desparate. So this act would of been more like a game to her.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    gimmick wrote: »
    No. Stop looking for thanks.
    You never know in this country, a judge sentencing their colleague to a remand facility is almost unheard of.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 510 ✭✭✭LivelineDipso


    She'll probably get a month in the actual slammer at the most.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 510 ✭✭✭LivelineDipso




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Squ


    Has she been dropped from the judiciary?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    She resigned.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭CuppaCocoa


    Squ wrote: »
    Has she been dropped from the judiciary?

    She resigned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭bijapos


    Squ wrote: »
    Has she been dropped from the judiciary?


    She resigned on Monday, I suppose I'm being cynical but i guess she will have other reasons for resigning before she was sacked/disqualified. Might affect her pension payments.

    Either way she will be treated as an outcast amongst a lot of people in her social circle, she will go down as a con woman and I suppose this will be some form of penalty as it should be as I think 2 1/2 years is a too little for what she did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    She resigned.

    Will that affect her pension


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    Justice, I'm happy with the sentence :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet



    just imagine them eyes looking at you and saying 'Non payment of television licence, 90 days'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Squ



    Will that affect her pension
    Have to have 5 yrs service for the pension, she didn't manage that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Squ wrote: »
    Have to have 5 yrs service for the pension, she didn't manage that.

    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭barney4001


    now they need to get onto the bankers, property developers,polititions etc who are blatantly money laundering by transfering assets to their wives etc ,then going bankrupt,and walking away scot free


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭barney4001


    no pension hip hip


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,384 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Now, onto Bertie...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭keno-daytrader


    Squ wrote: »
    Have to have 5 yrs service for the pension, she didn't manage that.

    More justice :D

    ☀️ 7.8kWp ⚡3.6kWp south, ⚡4.20kWp west



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I don't think any custodial sentence would be a 'holiday' tbh.
    Mountjoy Women's prison is notoriously cushy. But I guess it depends on your point of view. If you're used to spending your days on the scratch and getting into violent drunken rows with your partner, then a few months in Mountjoy women's prison may seem like a long holiday in a health spa.

    But if you're a wealthy solicitor used to the high life, then it'll be a nightmare.
    Prisoners are accommodated in seven separate houses with each house accommodating ten to twelve people except for one called Cedar which can accommodate eighteen women. The pre-release centre called Phoenix accommodates women in private rooms or in self-contained studio apartments.[2] Inmates live in en-suite rooms with keys to their rooms meaning they can move about relatively freely. Houses are locked at 7.30pm with all the women in the prison being locked into their rooms at that time except for women in Cedar and Phoenix Houses.[2] Houses and rooms are unlocked at 7.30am. Prisoners organise their own breakfasts in the kitchens of the houses and eat lunch with prison staff in the dining room with an evening meal being served in the dining room at 5pm.[2] Each house has a kitchen/dining room with sitting room facility which contains a television and reading material.

    Given that she may have sentenced some of the women in the prison, she may be housed in the a private pre-release room for the entire duration of her stay. I'm going to go with six months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Sin City


    Great to see Justice being done , she is finished in Law and as was said will be a social parriah from now on.

    Now if only we could get the bankers and politicians in the dock stealing from the country then proper justice will be done


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    According to the prosecuting counsel Dominic McGinn, Perrin fought the case using "lies, half-truths and deceptions". When the scam first came to light she claimed it was a mistake by her secretary but later claimed she had drafted the will in line with Mr Davis's instructions.
    Her defence team suggested that Mr Davis, who is in his eighties, suffered memory problems and had forgotten leaving half his estate to the Perrin children. The prosecution produced medical evidence that Mr Davis had no memory problems.

    Jeez, she should have to pay compensation to the poor man for those insinuations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I am shocked that one of the elite will actually do time:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Will that affect her pension


    Don't thinks she's been a serving judge long enough to be entitled to one yet.

    edit, the guys got in there before me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    Squ wrote: »
    Have to have 5 yrs service for the pension, she didn't manage that.
    The 60-year-old, who earned €147,961 a year as a District Court judge, is entitled to a modest pension of 3/80th of her salary for her three years’ service. It will be paid to her on reaching pensionable age.

    she gets a little one says the indo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Squ


    davet82 wrote: »



    she gets a little one says the indo
    I stand corrected. Damn you Tom Dunne!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM



    you reep what you sow............


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Irishcrx


    Heard this on the radio this morning 'Greedy bitch' was my first thought. Amazing , you think she sat up there handing out sentences to people for years on end for thing's as trivial in the grand scheme of thing's as robbing a bottle of coke from a supermarket or not paying your TV licence and there she is trying to con some aul fella out of half of his estate to give to her grubby handed children.

    (Note the children may have very clean hands)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Isn't it funny that white collar crime is always dealt with less harshly, really blows my mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭johnwest288


    Her name is MUD. I think that will Kill her even more so then the prison term.
    She would have been very highly respected member of the community, serves her right. Greedy old Goat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭Momento Mori


    The sentence seems like nothing but it's her career and reputation that have been ruined forever. Good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭Paddy Samurai


    seamus wrote: »
    .......................
    But if you're a wealthy solicitor used to the high life, then it'll be a nightmare.
    Not necessarily,she will probably be very popular among her new friends,as has something to trade.
    Free legal advice.............
    Get ready for all the appeals;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King



    She looks like the John Lithgow from third rock from the sun with a wig on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    Anyone who thinks she will be ostracised from her social circle when she gets released must not know how that circle works.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭force eleven


    Wonder will she meet anyone she put away, on the inside. She'll get a hard time. Like that corrupt Judge in Porridge - he was put in the same cell as Fletcher, the man he sentenced.
    She was only a district court judge, but they make enemies too...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Isn't it funny that white collar crime is always dealt with less harshly, really blows my mind.

    Not sure I get what you're saying. This particular white collar crime resulted in a custodial sentence, whereas we've several recent instances of sexual and physical assaults in which the sentence was suspended.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Not sure I get what you're saying.

    Perhaps this type of thing?
    There has been a substantial drop in the number of people convicted of white collar crime in the seven years up to 2010, in spite of an increase in the number of offences. The figures were released by Minister for Justice Alan Shatter following a parliamentary question by Labour TD Robert Dowds.

    They also show that there are no solicitors or barristers, and only two full-time accountants employed by the Garda Bureau of Fraud Investigation. Garda sources said the force cannot hire professionals because of the Government-imposed public service recruitment embargo.

    The figures show that the number of people convicted of white collar crime dropped from 579 - just under a quarter of the offences in 2003 - to 178 in 2010, with less than 15% of the offences committed in 2010.
    However, there was also an increase in the number of white collar crime offences over the same period.

    rte.ie/news


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    That's a fair sentence imo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Isn't it funny that white collar crime is always dealt with less harshly, really blows my mind.

    Actually (execpting Garlic man) non violent crime does not usually attract a long sentence. Two and a half years is quite stiff for a conviction for deception.
    Dont get me wrong, I am delighted the greed cnut got a custodial sentence, but I dont think she got off lightly.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    This bitch is gonna get fingered in prison.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭mathepac


    snubbleste wrote: »
    You never know in this country, a judge sentencing their colleague to a remand facility is almost unheard of.
    It is unheard of./ This is the very first.

    She is one saucy auld broad


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭HeyThereDeliah


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    This bitch is gonna get fingered in prison.
    mathepac wrote: »

    She is one saucy auld broad

    Pity the one who tries to on with her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 galwaygirrl


    Heather, Heather, Heather. Beware the bullies in Mountjoy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Thank Christ. I was expecting to wake up today and hear that she'd been given a suspended sentence or let off for political reasons, as usually happens.

    Is this the start of a new era of justice?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    I'm delighted the Hungry cnut got Time, serves the scumbag right

    21/25



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭ssaye


    uch wrote: »
    I'm delighted the Hungry cnut got Time, serves the scumbag right


    http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/jailed-perrin-will-be-entitled-to-state-pension-575905.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    ssaye wrote: »

    The state pension system really needs to change.

    Anyone convicted of using their position to enrich themselves should lose their pension entitlements.


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