Taught it wasnt for me.

jambosambo

I got into the game of thrones after both season's were finished. I watched the last eposide last week. Thank god I was able to watch both seasons back to back.. You would find yourself getting lost otherwise. The idea is great, and character's are brill.
Im not usually one for this type of program, Film or series.
But I found it so different. The plots, The way each eposide tells two or three different stories or views for three different places.

I cannot wait to see what season 3 brings.. I have so many unanswered questions that need answering. Roll on March


Happy viewer.

Jambo:cool:

s8n

Thought ??

jambosambo

The grammar police :O

LostCorkGuy

Books were better .......



:P

intellectual dosser

LostCorkGuy wrote: »

Books were better .......



:P

I've watched both seasons on TV but have gone back and started the books. Decided it best to start on book 1 and am currently half way through book 2.

Its going slow because its difficult to get into it when I know what will happen. Soon I'll be reading the new stuff!!

jambosambo

Might get the book's.. Be interesting to see the difference. Are they worth the read?

intellectual dosser

jambosambo wrote: »

Might get the book's.. Be interesting to see the difference. Are they worth the read?

The TV series pretty much follows book 1 to the word but there are certain small differences in book 2.

E.G Renly isnt gay (so far)

LostCorkGuy might be able to give a better opinion if he's read them all.

Also - the whole collection was on Amazon last week for €25 during the Black Friday sales. I got them because I've been borrowing them so far.

jambosambo

intellectual dosser wrote: »

The TV series pretty much follows book 1 to the word but there are certain small differences in book 2.

E.G Renly isnt gay (so far)

LostCorkGuy might be able to give a better opinion if he's read them all.

Also - the whole collection was on Amazon last week for €25 during the Black Friday sales. I got them because I've been borrowing them so far.

Thanks guy.. I'll keep my eyes open for them. Something to pass the time more than anything.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

intellectual dosser wrote: »

E.G Renly isnt gay (so far)

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yes he is

intellectual dosser

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

yes he is

Aha - ok my bad. He'd wanna get there pretty soon then!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

it's nowhere near as blatant as in the tv show, it's just throwaway remarks by other characters about the relationship between the two men. alot of people who had read the books were confused by it in the tv show. but i guess if you have that much tits in the show you have to have some hardcore face on cock action to balance it out

Elmidena

jambosambo wrote: »

Might get the book's.. Be interesting to see the difference. Are they worth the read?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0007477163/ref=nosim/?tag=hotukdeals-21 Current price. Free delivery if you spend another £4 on something despatched or fulfilled by Amazon

jambosambo

Elmidena wrote: »

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0007477163/ref=nosim/?tag=hotukdeals-21 Current price. Free delivery if you spend another £4 on something despatched or fulfilled by Amazon

Thank you.. Great help.

ArmaniJeanss

Renly sexuality.

Renlys Rainbow Guard led by his Knight of Flowers. There were clues. :pac:

Barna77

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

it's nowhere near as blatant as in the tv show, it's just throwaway remarks by other characters about the relationship between the two men. alot of people who had read the books were confused by it in the tv show. but i guess if you have that much tits in the show you have to have some hardcore face on cock action to balance it out

And as in the books

will Daenerys and Cersei have their lesbian moment? Each their own, not mixing together

Tzar Chasm

Barna77 wrote: »

And as in the books

will Daenerys and Cersei have their lesbian moment? Each their own, not mixing together

well I dont think there can be much ambiguity about Danerys relationship with her 'Handmaidens'

Boom_Bap

Like the OP, I heard about GOT for a long time but never paid much attention. But I got the first season on DVD as a gift and gave it a bash. loved it from the first few scenes.

Started to read the books now and near the end of the second book. There are a good few differences between season 2 on TV and the second book. I'm also rewatching while reading the books and there a few things that are more obvious now then when I first watched like

Catelyns hatred of Jon Snow or How bad Catelyns hand injuries are...this is kind of breezed over in the tv show

Mickeroo

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Like the OP, I heard about GOT for a long time but never paid much attention. But I got the first season on DVD as a gift and gave it a bash. loved it from the first few scenes.

Started to read the books now and near the end of the second book. There are a good few differences between season 2 on TV and the second book. I'm also rewatching while reading the books and there a few things that are more obvious now then when I first watched like

Catelyns hatred of Jon Snow or How bad Catelyns hand injuries are...this is kind of breezed over in the tv show

Another thing I picked up on too was that

not many people apart from Robert thing Rhaegar Targaeryan was a monster.

Sleepy

Mickeroo wrote: »

Another thing I picked up on too was that

not many people apart from Robert thing Rhaegar Targaeryan was a monster.

That's because he wasn't. Aerys was certainly mad but from everything we hear in the books, Rhaegar would have made a great ruler. There's no way I'm buying that Lyanna didn't go with him willingly.

Mickeroo

Sleepy wrote: »

That's because he wasn't. Aerys was certainly mad but from everything we hear in the books, Rhaegar would have made a great ruler. There's no way I'm buying that Lyanna didn't go with him willingly.

Me neither.

I'm CONVINCED that Jon is their son and will be genuinely pissed off if that doesn't turn out to be the case. Wouldn't be surprised if he decides not to write it that way because so many fans sussed it out the fecker :P

I never picked up on it until I read the books though, didn't seem as obvious in the show at all.

Witcher

Mickeroo wrote: »

I never picked up on it until I read the books though, didn't seem as obvious in the show at all.

Rhaegar and Robert's Rebellion are hardly mentioned in the show, Rhaegar's name is only said twice in two seasons. If Rhaegar and Lyanna's relationship becomes important later then a lot of show viewers will be lost as to who they are. I've talked to a lot of non book readers and in general they had no idea about how or why the Targaryens were deposed, a few didnt even know why Jaime is called 'kingslayer'. I maintain that a knowledge of the books is important when watching the series, even if ya just read the wiki articles for RR, the Targaryen's being exiled etc. If ya don't then a lot of it can go over your head as things from the past are mentioned but not explained..like when Ned and Barristan talk about the Battle of the Trident early on in the show, people were probably wondering why they were fighting and are now on the same side.

Don't think I need to spoiler any of that..doesn't reveal anything about the future really.

Barna77

Mickeroo wrote: »

Me neither.

I'm CONVINCED that Jon is their son and will be genuinely pissed off if that doesn't turn out to be the case. Wouldn't be surprised if he decides not to write it that way because so many fans sussed it out the fecker :P

I never picked up on it until I read the books though, didn't seem as obvious in the show at all.

But

the name of Jon's mother is revealed both in the show and the 3rd book ...

But Martin is a master of surprises, wouldn't surprise me if it was just some tricky twist...

Mickeroo

Barna77 wrote: »

But

the name of Jon's mother is revealed both in the show and the 3rd book ...

But Martin is a master of surprises, wouldn't surprise me if it was just some tricky twist...

THere's been a few conflicting stories about

Jon's mother,if she was just some randomer from White Harbour then I don't see why ned would be so secretive about her to Jon. Think about it, how honourable Ned is, I don't think its consistent with his character to father a bastard at all. I think he took the hit to his reputation to protect Jon from Robert.

If you've read all the books then I highly recommend having a read of this: http://towerofthehand.com/essays/chrisholden/jon_snows_parents.html

Washington Irving

Mickeroo wrote: »

Me neither.

I'm CONVINCED that Jon is their son and will be genuinely pissed off if that doesn't turn out to be the case. Wouldn't be surprised if he decides not to write it that way because so many fans sussed it out the fecker :P

I never picked up on it until I read the books though, didn't seem as obvious in the show at all.

I never got that from the books at all. I've never actually heard anyone with that that idea until now, granted I don't read a lot of forums. It's possible but it seems unlikely to me. I think it's as it seems and he's Ned's son to some fish wife.

Sleepy

Take a read of the link Mickeroo provided,

R + L = J

is possibly the most spoiled storyline that's not even been written yet in the history of Fantasy writing. GRRM loves foreshadowing and it's all over the books.

Duckworth_Luas

Half way through Clash of Kings, so this is more speculation but

Thought it was made obvious (too obvious maybe) that Jon Snow's parents are Rhaegar and Lyanna. His mother died in childbirth when being saved by Ned who then took the child home to Winterfall. Initially I thought his conception was a result of rape but possibly not. In any case Ned then hid the child's true identity not to save his sisters honour but to prevent the baby being killed by King Robert. Various characters mention in the book that Robert would have killed Joffery and his siblings immediately if he learned their true parentage. Then again that's probably too obvious though.

At this point I also think that Jon Snow will end up being the main character throughout. He and Daenerys are the only two who I can't see being knocked off. Also think Jon will end up on the iron throne.

Will probably regret that last paragraph when Jon is eaten by a grumpkin in Season 3 Episode 1.

Barna77

Mickeroo wrote: »

THere's been a few conflicting stories about

Jon's mother,if she was just some randomer from White Harbour then I don't see why ned would be so secretive about her to Jon. Think about it, how honourable Ned is, I don't think its consistent with his character to father a bastard at all. I think he took the hit to his reputation to protect Jon from Robert.

If you've read all the books then I highly recommend having a read of this: http://towerofthehand.com/essays/chrisholden/jon_snows_parents.html

I just started the last book, I'm staying away from forums and sites. Spoilers galore! :mad:

Actually I shouldn't be here either....

I'll check that out when I'm done with them though

hootietootie

Agghhhh can't figure out how to read spoilers on iPad!!!!!

Washington Irving

hootietootie wrote: »

Agghhhh can't figure out how to read spoilers on iPad!!!!!

Are you using the touch site? If so just tap the spoiler, otherwise you could quote the post and read it on the 'Reply to Thread' screen providing just highlighting it doesn't work.

hootietootie

SaulGoode9 wrote: »

Are you using the touch site? If so just tap the spoiler, otherwise you could quote the post and read it on the 'Reply to Thread' screen providing just highlighting it doesn't work.

Thanks a million-am loving the spoilers, am on the last book so far, but himself doesn't wat to know anything about them, so I Onlyhave myself to talk to

Barna77

Mickeroo and Duckworth have planted the seed of doubt on me now... :mad:



So now I'm thinking

in the end both Jon and Daenerys will find out that Rhaegar and Lyanna are his parents. By now everybody else should be dead, given the death toll rate started in Storm of Swords... So as the last Targaryen kids they should marry to rule in the Iron Throne. Here comes Jon's moral inner dilemma, like Sam. I said the words, I said the words... But sweet Danny will make him forget the words and vows, helped by some tricks learnt from Irri ...
So they are happy, they get married. We know how weddings are like in Westeros now.... Sansa might have been lucky to survive the bloodfest and organises the wedding.. and kills them all, and reveals to be Princess Toadstool and rules the in The Peach Throne

http://i.imgur.com/gbhrb.jpg



Martin shouldn't bother writing anymore.

Ok, I had a sleepless night, the brain is in dire condition now.... needs coffee...

:pac::pac:

intellectual dosser

Cant help reading the spoilers!! :mad:

Mickeroo

intellectual dosser wrote: »

Cant help reading the spoilers!! :mad:

Don't worry, the spoilered stuff is all speculation in the last few posts is all speculation.

Inspector Coptoor

Series 1 - sticks firmly to the book

Series 2 Not so much. Quite a few differences actually

Battle of Blackwater Bay. Where was Tyrion's chain to pen all Stannis' ships in?

Why are Renly and Loras so obviously gay?
Why does Margery want to have a threesome with her BROTHER and Renly to consummate the marriage.
Why dont we see the Bolton Bastard as Winterfell?

Lots of things bugging me

intellectual dosser

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

Series 1 - sticks firmly to the book

Series 2 Not so much. Quite a few differences actually

Battle of Blackwater Bay. Where was Tyrion's chain to pen all Stannis' ships in?

Why are Renly and Loras so obviously gay?
Why does Margery want to have a threesome with her BROTHER and Renly to consummate the marriage.
Why dont we see the Bolton Bastard as Winterfell?

Lots of things bugging me

I'd imagine that someone who has read all and seen all like many on this thread will be able to answer better but:

a. There were a few discrepancies here, in the books the Lannisters engaged Stannis with their fleet, not just the lone wildfire ship as on TV. Tyrion didnt get attacked on a 'bridge of ships' either. In the end though they effectively tell the same story.

b. I'm halfway through book 3 and so far there is nothing to suggest Loras and Renly were 'obviously gay', but I think the big hint was the fact that Renly's marriage to Margery wasn't consummated. They seemed to have time! I'm expecting a direct reference/confirmation at some point in coming books.

c. I guess the TV producers felt they wanted to play more on the gay Renly idea and this is the way they went with it.

d. In the TV series it hasn't shown yet who burned Winterfell. I saw the TV show first and I assumed it was Robb's men blowing their horn at Theon, but after reading the book I realise that was never confirmed. I'd imagine it will come up in series 3.

Took me ages to get through the first two books knowing what happens but now I'm starting to pick up the pace. Keeping a low profile in January will never be easier!

Witcher

The TV writers had to embellish the Loras/Renly story because they hadn't got the time just to drop hints here and there like in a book. ASoS

I think Loras' explanation of why he joined the Kingsguard to Tyrion is an indicator that he has recently lost his one love...Tyrion ask's him 'what of love?' and he replies 'When the sun has set, no candle can replace it'.

There are hints in the show as to who burned Winterfell...there is only one force moving to engage the Ironborn.

A lot of the differences are due to time constraints and the story being told in a completely different medium, some things have to be as subtle as a brick because people watching it don't have the luxury of re-reading something until they understand it or flicking back to an event etc. when it's explained later. Most will probably only see episodes once and if things aren't clear they will be lost and possibly stop watching.

Tzar Chasm

grammar goldcloaks/grammar unsullied

jambosambo wrote: »

The grammar police :O

jambosambo

Im up to date with the series now. Must say top notch. waiting a week for an episode is the biggest killer. "edge of your seat kind of stuff"

Still havnt got the books yeat, Think they are a must get. Even though im not much of a reader.

endacl

jambosambo

endacl wrote: »

Epic