WSB Thread

Jayob10 · 23-11-2012 9:46pm #1

Joe Ward totally outclassed his Hungarian opponent winning all 5 rounds on each of the judges cards.

John Joe Nevin currently tied at 2 rounds each with Stankovic, going into the final round

Edit: JJ Nevin loses a split decision. Stankovic definately did enough to take it unfortunately.

barney4001 · 23-11-2012 10:32pm

Jayob10 wrote: »

Joe Ward totally outclassed his Hungarian opponent winning all 5 rounds on each of the judges cards.

John Joe Nevin currently tied at 2 rounds each with Stankovic, going into the final round

Edit: JJ Nevin loses a split decision. Stankovic definately did enough to take it unfortunately.

Nevin made a very good change of mind to stay amateur this probably proves it

endswell · 24-11-2012 9:06am

Nice one jayob for setting up this thread.

Henno30 · 24-11-2012 1:11pm

How is the revenue generated from these WSB tournaments?

walshb · 25-11-2012 10:32am

Not to hijack this thread but I didn't want to start a new thread:

Excellent exhibition:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7ohD29Ycxs&feature=youtu.be

Underground · 25-11-2012 11:10am

Nevin fighting at lightweight for this tournament aswell. Very significant jump in weight in such a short space of time.

megadodge · 25-11-2012 2:10pm

Nevin made a very good change of mind to stay amateur this probably proves it

Underground wrote: »

Nevin fighting at lightweight for this tournament aswell. Very significant jump in weight in such a short space of time.

I was going to mention this. Nevin fought here at 61kg (around one stone heavier than he normally fights) to accomodate Andrew Selby at 54kg. That's a huge jump, especially in the amateurs where there's so little between the top guys at ANY weight.

Jayob10 · 25-11-2012 5:21pm

megadodge wrote: »

I was going to mention this. Nevin fought here at 61kg (around one stone heavier than he normally fights) to accomodate Andrew Selby at 54kg. That's a huge jump, especially in the amateurs where there's so little between the top guys at ANY weight.

seems a very poor decision to adjust to accomodate selby.

Another WSB team would gladly have Nevin i'd imagine.

Nevin is limited at lightweight, never mind in this WSB format.

bk2101 · 25-11-2012 7:38pm

Jayob10 wrote: »

seems a very poor decision to adjust to accomodate selby.

Another WSB team would gladly have Nevin i'd imagine.

Nevin is limited at lightweight, never mind in this WSB format.

Don't think it has anything to do with Selby. He was already 61kg last season in the WSB, and when he was 54kg in the first season, he had trouble making the weight.

megadodge · 25-11-2012 10:54pm

bk2101 wrote: »

Don't think it has anything to do with Selby. He was already 61kg last season in the WSB, and when he was 54kg in the first season, he had trouble making the weight.

Well I agree he had trouble making 54kg for certain matches (semis), but he fought at that weight and won comfortably in the final last year. I don't recall him fighting at 61kg at any stage though.
And if you think of it, a British team boxing at home (Wales) is more likely to have it's Welsh fighters fighting, especially one as good as Selby.

Edit: I think I might be referring to the first year of WSB now that I think of it. Is this the third year?

walshb · 26-11-2012 3:05pm

The WSB has been two years going ; 2010/2011 and 2011/2012. I don't think Nevin has ever fought at the bantamweight division for the tournament. He has been a LW fighter for the two years. Maybe I could be wrong.

http://worldseriesboxing.com/index.php/standings/individual-rankings/lightweight

megadodge · 26-11-2012 8:39pm

walshb wrote: »

The WSB has been two years going ; 2010/2011 and 2011/2012. I don't think Nevin has ever fought at the bantamweight division for the tournament. He has been a LW fighter for the two years. Maybe I could be wrong.

http://worldseriesboxing.com/index.php/standings/individual-rankings/lightweight

That's this year's listing.
He most definitely fought at bantam the first year and was only beaten once and won his bout in the final easily. It's last year I'm not 100% about, but either way, he's not close to being a natural lightweight, so I suppose it's obvious his team rate him very highly to put him in at that weight.... a lot higher than plenty on here seem to rate him.

walshb · 26-11-2012 8:43pm

megadodge wrote: »

That's this year's listing.
He most definitely fought at bantam the first year and was only beaten once and won his bout in the final easily. It's last year I'm not 100% about, but either way, he's not close to being a natural lightweight, so I suppose it's obvious his team rate him very highly to put him in at that weight.... a lot higher than plenty on here seem to rate him.

But isn't bantam 54 kgs for the WSB? Nevin has been at 56 kgs the past few years in Ireland. Was he dropping 2 kgs for the WSB in its first year?

Edit: He was bantam for the 1st season. Must have been tough dropping them 2 kgs.

megadodge · 26-11-2012 8:46pm

walshb wrote: »

But isn't bantam 54 kgs for the WSB? Nevin has been at 56 kgs the past few years in Ireland. Was he dropping 2 kgs for the WSB in its first year?

It is 54kg in the WSB and that's why he had problems making the weight (as far as I know he missed the semis the first year) but he still fought aprox. 5-6 times losing only once - not bad for someone struggling to make weight in a format many believe doesn't suit him.

bk2101 · 26-11-2012 9:44pm

megadodge wrote: »

It is 54kg in the WSB and that's why he had problems making the weight (as far as I know he missed the semis the first year) but he still fought aprox. 5-6 times losing only once - not bad for someone struggling to make weight in a format many believe doesn't suit him.

Agreed, and I'd say he'll get stronger as the season goes on. The jump from 56 to 61 is huge, so it might just take time for him to adjust to it, rather than him being too small for 61kg. Does anyone know if he's planning on moving up to lightweight for the next Olympics?

Jayob10 · 13-12-2012 3:39pm

Some Irish in action this weekend again in the WSB

The British Lionhearts take on The German eagles. There will be Irish interest on both teams.

David Oliver Joyce (representing German Eagles) will take on the Lionhearts Sam Maxwell.

Joe Ward (Lionhearts) will take on Satula Abdulai. Joe was originally scheduled to face the very impressive (and undefeated in all his 5 WSB contests) Kevin Künzel, but Kunzel has withdrawn with an injury.

Jayob10 · 14-12-2012 6:45pm

Eric Donovan just beat the guy who beat JJ Nevin in the last round of the WSB.

walshb · 14-12-2012 6:55pm

Now that Nevin is at 60 Kgs can we expect him to meet DOJ and/or Donovan?

Jayob10 · 14-12-2012 7:02pm

walshb wrote: »

Now that Nevin is at 60 Kgs can we expect him to meet DOJ and/or Donovan?

i'm not sure how the fixtures line up, but I don't see why not.

Each team has a couple of guys at the same weight though, so not sure how it will work.

walshb · 14-12-2012 7:08pm

Jayob10 wrote: »

i'm not sure how the fixtures line up, but I don't see why not.

Each team has a couple of guys at the same weight though, so not sure how it will work.

The WSB site does preview upcoming bouts, but nothing too far into the future, and I see no mention of them clashing yet.

Jayob10 · 14-12-2012 7:13pm

walshb wrote: »

The WSB site does preview upcoming bouts, but nothing too far into the future, and I see no mention of them clashing yet.

Donovan gives JJ Nevin a hell of a scrap in this format.

His fight against the Serb was very good, was never a huge fan of Donvan to be honest, but he has a nice style for this. Stood and traded aswell and came off the better more often than not.

walshb · 14-12-2012 7:20pm

Jayob10 wrote: »

Donovan gives JJ Nevin a hell of a scrap in this format.

His fight against the Serb was very good, was never a huge fan of Donvan to be honest, but he has a nice style for this. Stood and traded aswell and came off the better more often than not.

You don't beat Donovan easy. He is a stylish boxer. Plus, naturally that bit bigger than Nevin. No surprise if Donovan beat him. I think Nevin beats DOJ. Bull vs. Matador; matador wins

Jayob10 · 14-12-2012 7:22pm

I think this is a brilliant format, allowing some of the top amateurs to face off in pro-like contests. There are no easy fights unlike the pro's where you will be spoon fed bums for your first 10-15 fights. Its really sink or swim.

Some of the guys who were decent if unspectacular at amateur level can show alot more promise than some of the top class amateurs.

Jayob10 · 14-12-2012 8:27pm

David Oliver Joyce won an extremely hotly disputed split decision against Sam Maxwell.

Jayob10 · 14-12-2012 8:53pm

Joe Ward wins every round en route to a 4th round stoppage against his German opponent.

Very dominant performance

endswell · 15-12-2012 9:18am

Jayob10 wrote: »

Eric Donovan just beat the guy who beat JJ Nevin in the last round of the WSB.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGs1B2w6gJs

endswell · 15-12-2012 9:49am

joyce first then joe ward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIQ6ns4gKzE

endswell · 12-01-2013 11:48pm

Joyce beat Donovan this evening

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/2013/kazakhstan-remain-unbeaten-after-well-taken-away-victory-against-germany-1-4/

walshb · 15-01-2013 3:35pm

http://www.iaba.ie/lionhearts-versus-knockcouts/

Irish involvement this week.

Did the report miss one Irish boxer? Only lists three from what I can see.

endswell · 16-01-2013 3:31pm

walshb wrote: »

http://www.iaba.ie/lionhearts-versus-knockcouts/

Irish involvement this week.

Did the report miss one Irish boxer? Only lists three from what I can see.

thanks. plenty more detail on http://www.worldseriesboxing.com/index.php/news/202-great-britain-versus-usa-showdown-at-iconic-york-hall. is that 3 travellers on the lionhearts team for friday (with joe joyce at hw)? makings of a team there!

walshb · 16-01-2013 3:37pm

Where can I watch this? Does the site stream?

http://worldseriesboxing.com/index.php/2012-10-30-15-10-54/wsb-broadcasters

?

endswell · 16-01-2013 3:48pm

walshb wrote: »

Where can I watch this? Does the site stream?

http://worldseriesboxing.com/index.php/2012-10-30-15-10-54/wsb-broadcasters

?

http://www.youtube.com/user/WorldSeriesBoxing

havent watched anything live yet, only replays but i assume it works.

walshb · 16-01-2013 3:53pm

Looks like ESPN are covering it as well. I have ESPN.

bk2101 · 16-01-2013 3:55pm

walshb wrote: »

http://www.iaba.ie/lionhearts-versus-knockcouts/

Irish involvement this week.

Did the report miss one Irish boxer? Only lists three from what I can see.

Sean Turner was meant to be fighting there as well, but he's out because of the cuts from his last fight I think, so that's probably who they meant.

walshb · 17-01-2013 12:09pm

Whoever has Sky channel 417 can watch the whole show tonight from 2000hrs.

barney4001 · 17-01-2013 10:28pm

JUST SAW THE JOYCE FIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT

endswell · 17-01-2013 11:38pm

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2I-ng4IPVJc

all 5 fights here

walshb · 18-01-2013 11:50am

I recorded the action. Saw bits of Ward. Did he look a wee bit sloppy? He seems to really overextend himnself when throwing the left hand.

endswell · 18-01-2013 1:22pm

walshb wrote: »

I recorded the action. Saw bits of Ward. Did he look a wee bit sloppy? He seems to really overextend himnself when throwing the left hand.

didnt look fully up for it but he said himself he was an awkward opponent and he could have done better, at 1.50 of clip is his interview

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