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Dash cams, what to get and where to get it (Q&A only)
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themacdaddy wrote: »I was gonna purchases the Mini 0801 then I seen this one with the new Ambarella A7 chip. Do you think there will be much difference?
This seems good to me. It seems we have to wait four to six weeks before getting hold of it, though
I would have liked a camera that could allow me to set the frame rate to a lower value that 30 fps. Something that could be set from 1 fps to 30 fps would have been great.
The GoPro cams allow this, but are much more expensive and not dedicated to this purpose.0 -
Irish Stones wrote: »This seems good to me. It seems we have to wait four to six weeks before getting hold of it, though
I would have liked a camera that could allow me to set the frame rate to a lower value that 30 fps. Something that could be set from 1 fps to 30 fps would have been great.
The GoPro cams allow this, but are much more expensive and not dedicated to this purpose.
Why do you want to be able to change the frame rate? Just out of curiosity:)0 -
Average-Ro wrote: »Why do you want to be able to change the frame rate? Just out of curiosity:)
One of the reasons could be to save space in the memory
A frame rate of, say, 5 fps could be still enough to see and understand what happens around, but the memory card can store 6 times more recording.
At 10 fps the video is still recognisable but the recording time is three times more.
At the moment I have a ER-130V, not available anymore on the market, that has a variable frame rate.
By the way, does anyone know what is the file size for each minute of recording for the Mini 0801?0 -
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Irish Stones wrote: »One of the reasons could be to save space in the memory
A frame rate of, say, 5 fps could be still enough to see and understand what happens around, but the memory card can store 6 times more recording.
But they record over themselves in a loop, so why worry about memory?0 -
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Nino Brown wrote: »But they record over themselves in a loop, so why worry about memory?
Because in certain occasions I wouldn't like to have the older files deleted or overwritten. This happens when I'm on holiday and I'd like to keep the whole travel saved for later reviews
If I haven't misunderstood, these devices allow users to choose between overwrite and stop when full, don't they?I think the 0801 does around 80mb per 1min @ 30fps
Thanks! Very useful info 0 -
Irish Stones wrote: »Because in certain occasions I wouldn't like to have the older files deleted or overwritten. This happens when I'm on holiday and I'd like to keep the whole travel saved for later reviews
If I haven't misunderstood, these devices allow users to choose between overwrite and stop when full, don't they?
I can't speak for all of them, but it seems most do allow you turn off loop recording.
In accident situations the incident won't be recorded over on most dashcams, and if your on holiday you could just take the card out and transfer the files to your laptop after each trip and you're good to go.0 -
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Nino Brown wrote: »The LK7900 allows you set the frame rate from 5-30fps.
I found the manual at this link
http://www.lukashd.com/gnuboard4/bbs/board.php?bo_table=eng_setupmanual&wr_id=6
but it doesn't say anything about the frame rate...
Another thing. All these dash cams start recording when the vehicle is turned on, probably because the power at the cigarette lighter in on in that moment.
My car (Opel Astra 2004) has the cig lighter always on, even when the car is without key. This sounds like a problem...
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Irish Stones wrote: »I found the manual at this link
http://www.lukashd.com/gnuboard4/bbs/board.php?bo_table=eng_setupmanual&wr_id=6
but it doesn't say anything about the frame rate...
Another thing. All these dash cams start recording when the vehicle is turned on, probably because the power at the cigarette lighter in on in that moment.
My car (Opel Astra 2004) has the cig lighter always on, even when the car is without key. This sounds like a problem...
Here's the first page of the options menu on the Lukas, 5,10,15 fps are greyed out, maybe there's other settings I need to change to make them available.
I used to drive a focus, and the cigarette lighters are always on in them too. It wasn't a problem, the camera was just always on.
The Lukas is designed to be always on all the time anyway, and you can get regulator kit with them I described earlier in this thread so that you don't use the cigarette lighter at all.0 -
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Nino Brown wrote: »
Here's the first page of the options menu on the Lukas, 5,10,15 fps are greyed out, maybe there's other settings I need to change to make them available.
This is different from the pdf manual available from the link I found, that must be an older version.
Probably if you set a lower image quality it lets you choose slower frame rates. It could make sense.I used to drive a focus, and the cigarette lighters are always on in them too. It wasn't a problem, the camera was just always on.
The Lukas is designed to be always on all the time anyway, and you can get regulator kit with them I described earlier in this thread so that you don't use the cigarette lighter at all.
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I checked all the manuals of all models from Lukas.
None of them mentions the frame rate...
More, as I understand not all models have a GPS receiver built-in, it seems that only models 7700 and 7900 do have it.
Then, I haven't understood how the system is turned on and off. Alright, there's an on/off button, but do I always have to power it off before removing the key? What if I remove the key without turning the cam off? This may happen when in a hurry, or distract by other thoughts, or when the engine stops for an incorrect manouvre and I have to restart the engine... will all data be erased or lost?0 -
You're looking into this too much
Buy a decent camera, buy 2 memory cards since you seem to be concerned (I have two for mine too). If you record something important, pop out the card and replace it with the other one until you have had a chance to back up the video files to a computer, or, with the new ones using micro SD cards, you could back it up to most android phones by inserting the memory card for 5 minutes.
To the poster concerned about proof of delivery, some cameras allow you to snap a photo, this evidence would be pretty much equal to camera footage that you were at the location, unless you want to specifically position and park your van so it's facing you walking into the building etc. Also, presuming you use a dedicated GPS while driving, most GPS units have the feature to leave a snail trail of where you've driver, so you could use them both.0 -
The 7500 definitely has GPS too. I don't know what to tell you about the manuals. I just checked the manual that came with mine, and it just tells me how to get to the options screen, it doesn't explain any options at all. BTW the options are not edited on the camera, you edit them on the player, then save it to the card, and when you put the card in the camera the options upload.Irish Stones wrote: »I checked all the manuals of all models from Lukas.
None of them mentions the frame rate...
More, as I understand not all models have a GPS receiver built-in, it seems that only models 7700 and 7900 do have it.
Okay in your case, if you leave it plugged in to the cigarette lighter, the camera will always be on, 24/7. But in the case of the lukas it would detect that you're not driving anymore and enter parking mode.Where it would only record motion and impacts.Irish Stones wrote: »Then, I haven't understood how the system is turned on and off. Alright, there's an on/off button, but do I always have to power it off before removing the key?
If you have a car which powers off the cigarette lighter when the ignition is off, the internal battery will have enough power to safely shut down the camera, and will power on again when you turn on the ignition, no need to touch the power button.
I use the on/off button because my camera is hard wired to the car, and the camera should be off before removing the SD card. In your case you could either turn it off, or plug it out before removing the card, that's really all the button is for, you don't need to use it on a daily basis unless you're worried about your car battery.
And the data records in segments of usually 1-5 mins, so even if your internal battery had failed completely, and you turn off your ignition, you'd only lose the last few minutes of video.0 -
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Any opinons? Think I saw one like this posted here before.
Not a great cam anymore but one like it did set the standard, unfortunately it has been cloned and cloned and cloned again ~ if it's an original it does basic dash-cam functions.
PS. Even Amazon Co UK were selling the clone knockoffs ~ 0 -
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