Degree Recognition

Darren1o1

petethedrummer wrote: »

If you mean software engineer as in JAVA,C# etc.. you would do a Computer Science degree not an engineering degree. So that sort of engineer probably doesn't fall under their EI remit cos they haven't done an engineering degree.

Untrue. At one stage Computer applications at DCU was accredited albeit not any more.
I am a biomed/mech and I used it to show equivalency internationally mainly in the US and Germany.

petethedrummer

Darren1o1 wrote: »

Untrue. At one stage Computer applications at DCU was accredited albeit not any more.

so it is true.

Darren1o1

petethedrummer wrote: »

so it is true.

Those from the years accreditation are eligible still for memberships. Who know why DCU did not continue to seek membership. There are computer science programs previously accredited and many other programs that lead to become software engineers such as computer engineering. Regardless software engineers are eligible to go through the application process to become members. I have seen application such as computational physics where C. Eng. is useful.

Sparks

petethedrummer wrote: »

If you mean software engineer as in JAVA,C# etc.. you would do a Computer Science degree not an engineering degree.

Er, not neccessarily. I did the Computer&Electronic engineering BAI degree and software engineering is what I do...

...but you probably ought to know that in the industry itself, there's a fair amount of debate about what the difference is - or even if there is one - between software engineering and programming.

Muir

You used to get accredited to be a chartered engineer with a level 8 (maybe even a level 7 I'm not sure). As of this year - eg. everyone graduating this year, you need it is being brought in that you require a masters to get chartered status. And it completely depends on the job, there are a few who will help you gain accreditation through further study etc. In some areas it matters more than others, eg in structural if you design a bridge a chartered engineer might have to sign off on it because if it collapses people could die, whereas in Electronic it's less of a big deal. This is why these new 5 year programs are being brought in.

Sparks

Muir wrote: »

if you design a bridge a chartered engineer might have to sign off on it because if it collapses people could die, whereas in Electronic it's less of a big deal

Not to make a huge deal out of it, but has everyone in the world forgotten about therac-25?

(Well, obviously too many have because we've been having therac-25's ever since, most recently over 18 months between 2008 and 2009 in the US)

And that's just the stuff that's potentially directly fatal - it might not kill you immediately, but if someone blows a billion on a software system that doesn't work and has to be abandoned, that's a billion that wasn't spent on hospitals and schools and other things that could have used the money, and that has a negative impact on everyone.

This whole idea of how it doesn't matter because it's "just computers"... yeah, not a fan of it

spideog7

Muir wrote: »

In some areas it matters more than others, eg in structural if you design a bridge a chartered engineer might have to sign off on it because if it collapses people could die, whereas in Electronic it's less of a big deal.

Sure cause something as simple a set of traffic light can't hurt anyone if they break. Or autopilot in planes, trains, ships, mining etc. Or what about a bad battery charger in a 787, surely nobody would be concerned by that :-\

Most electronics built to any stringent standards are independently stress tested for weeks on end before they're signed off on. But not everything has to meet strict standards despite how much we depend on them.

godtabh

Muir wrote: »

You used to get accredited to be a chartered engineer with a level 8 (maybe even a level 7 I'm not sure). As of this year - eg. everyone graduating this year, you need it is being brought in that you require a masters to get chartered status. And it completely depends on the job, there are a few who will help you gain accreditation through further study etc. In some areas it matters more than others, eg in structural if you design a bridge a chartered engineer might have to sign off on it because if it collapses people could die, whereas in Electronic it's less of a big deal. This is why these new 5 year programs are being brought in.

Not 100% true. If you want to go down the straight forward/simplest route then yes a level 9 is available but there is alternative routes

00MARTZ00

What other routes is there? I only ask because ill be graduating next year.
Also can you become chartered with a masters in anything? (ie business or management)
I heard its not a bad idea for an engineer to do a masters in business and/or management because most engineers end up becoming managers?

godtabh

its done on a case by case basis but its based on experience or at least thats the way it is done now

323

Darren1o1 wrote: »

I am a biomed/mech and I used it to show equivalency internationally mainly in the US and Germany.

Have had to do this a numerous times, but only for work visa requirements.

As to OP. Abroad or even inside Ireland you could be hard pressed to to find anyone who is aware of what Level 7, 8 or 9 even means.

Take it you will head to the energy industry, realistically that means abroad.
Your degree, whether 3/4 years will get you in the door.
Still amazed at the snobbery in Ireland as to having a degree.

In reality it means you have the learned some basics, have an interest and the ability to learn to do the job, little more.
How you get on from there is up to you.

Energy industries are all booming at the moment. You will learn a hell more and be a lot more useful in a few months on the job than you will learn in 1/2 more years at any university.

Accreditation to EI is pretty much irrelevant unless you are looking for chartered status in the civil engineering game in Ireland.

Sparks

323 wrote: »

Accreditation to EI is pretty much irrelevant unless you are looking for chartered status in the civil engineering game in Ireland.

...or, you know, you ever want to work anywhere where they want an accredited degree as opposed to something you bought for $100 off the internet.
I mean, that's kindof the entire point of accreditation from the point of view of students - to ensure that when they invest years of their lives and quite a chunk of cash to get a degree, that they don't then find out that it's not recognised anywhere outside the college you got it in.

I don't do civil engineering (I'm a computer engineer), but I wouldn't have gone within an ass's roar of an unaccredited course.