Week 12

eagle eye

The bye weeks are over, we have a full schedule.:)

Thursday, November 22

Houston at Detroit, 5:30pm
Washington at Dallas, 9:15pm
New England at NY Jets, 1:20am (Fri)

Sunday, November 25

Oakland at Cincinnati, 6:00pm
Pittsburgh at Cleveland, 6:00pm
Buffalo at Indianapolis, 6:00pm
Tennessee at Jacksonville, 6:00pm
Denver at Kansas City, 6:00pm
Minnesota at Chicago, 6:00pm
Atlanta at Tampa Bay, 6:00pm
Seattle at Miami, 6:00pm
Baltimore at San Diego, 9:05pm
San Francisco at New Orleans, 9:25pm
St. Louis at Arizona, 9:25pm
Green Bay at NY Giants, 1:20am(Mon morning)

Monday(Tues morning), November 26

Carolina at Philadelphia, 1:30am

helimachoptor

Titans to give the Jags a serious pasting this week

davetherave

Must win game for Chicago for standings and divisional matchups. NFC North is still anyones game at this stage( bar the Lions)

Useless stat: Since 2008, the Bears are 5-1 in games immediately following a loss of at least 21 points

eagle eye

New England at NY Jets, 1:20am (Fri)

I'm gonna be a like a zombie at work on Friday.:):(

SantryRed

helimachoptor wrote: »

Titans to give the Jags a serious pasting this week

No way,

henne in for the Jags. Jags gonna win.

gerire

i think this may be a chance for the jags to get a, rare for them, W on the board alright. Wouldn't back it though

helimachoptor

SantryRed wrote: »

No way,

henne in for the Jags. Jags gonna win.

We'll see Ben :pac:

mikemac1

Baltimore in San Diego?

Any excuse to post this short video :cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ6H9o0lpvA

OAOB

mikemac1 wrote: »

Baltimore in San Diego?

Any excuse to post this short video :cool:

God i hated that play, Chargers were on a great comeback and had just put together a very nice drive to get to that position. Great play though

yorlum11

Anyone know the TV games this weekend?

Lionbacker

yorlum11 wrote: »

Anyone know the TV games this weekend?

The 18:00 game is Minnesota @ Chicago
The 21:25 game is San Fran @ New Orleans

yorlum11

Lionbacker wrote: »

The 18:00 game is Minnesota @ Chicago
The 21:25 game is San Fran @ New Orleans

Cheers LB

SantryRed

What a dud of a MNF game :pac:

spiralism

I wish they could flex MNF..

Pherekydes

SantryRed wrote: »

What a dud of a MNF game :pac:

But a cracking SNF game.

poldebruin

I like the look of:
Bills v Colts, should be a shootout with playoff implications.
Redskins v Cowboys: Must-win for the Redskins and RGIII is must-see TV at the moment
Atlanta v Tampa could be interesting, but the Falcons have such a large lead in the division.
49ers v Saints, Brees against the vaunted 9ers D and get to have a closer look at Cupaernick (sp?) big call from Harbaugh there.
Packers v Giants, Rematch of the divisional game from last year. Giants can't afford to lose this as well?

Thursday and MNF games have been very poor last few years. My guess is that ESPN/NFL will try to address MNF options. It's the flagship program and seems to have thrown up way too many awaful matchups recently.

padraig_f

@SI_JimTrotter: BREAKING: Jim Harbaugh has informed Alex Smith that Colin Kaepernick will start Sunday. Decision not based on health.

Love this if true. This is what great coaches do, make brave deicisions like this. At 7-2-1, too many coaches would play it safe, and stick with what's worked up to now.

I think the 49ers are the best team in the NFL, but my one reservation about them was, when they met better defenses in the playoffs, they'd need the QB to make plays, and I wasn't sure if Smith could do that. Kaepernick could be the guy who can.

I think Alex Smith is a pretty average QB, who's made to look a lot better than he is, by playing in a great team....best running-game in the league, best defense, and an offense designed to minimise his limitations. That works in the regular season, but not necessarily in the playoffs.

Kaepernick doesn't need to be brilliant to match what Smith is doing, but his upside is higher. So with the rest of the team playing so well, the risk is relatively small compared to the reward.

eagle eye

padraig_f wrote: »

Love this if true. This is what great coaches do, make brave deicisions like this. At 7-2-1, too many coaches would play it safe, and stick with what's worked up to now.

I think the 49ers are the best team in the NFL, but my one reservation about them was, when they met better defenses in the playoffs, they'd need the QB to make plays, and I wasn't sure if Smith could do that. Kaepernick could be the guy who can.

I think Alex Smith is a pretty average QB, who's made to look a lot better than he is, by playing in a great team....best running-game in the league, best defense, and an offense designed to minimise his limitations. That works in the regular season, but not necessarily in the playoffs.

Kaepernick doesn't need to be brilliant to match what Smith is doing, but his upside is higher. So with the rest of the team playing so well, the risk is relatively small compared to the reward.

I don't think you are being very fair to Alex Smith here(never thought I'd see myself write those words!) because the guy is stuck in a system where he is not asked to throw the ball that often. To this point in the season he has a 70% completion rate, he has a 104 QB rating and his differential is pretty good with 13 tds to 5 ints.
Last season in the playoffs they let him loose against the Saints and he came up trumps, he had a 101 QB rating in the playoffs over the two games.
This year they let him loose against the Bills and again he came up trump, then he had a bad game against the Giants but everybody is entitled to one bad game.

Imo he is being held back by the offensive playbook. Kaepernick looked good in his first start but he didn't look so good when he came in for Smith the week before. We'll see how it goes but I'm not sure he is ready yet. I'm not sure he is the answer at QB for them.

I feel for Alex Smith as he has done nothing wrong and I feel that he should have been given more leash to hang himself if they felt they would go another direction. Thing is I think he would thrive given the opportunity to throw the ball more.

I always believed Smith wasn't good enough up until the playoffs last season. I now think he has a future in the NFL and I think the 49ers are making a big mistake here.

poldebruin

eagle eye wrote: »

I don't think you are being very fair to Alex Smith here(never thought I'd see myself write those words!) because the guy is stuck in a system where he is not asked to throw the ball that often. To this point in the season he has a 70% completion rate, he has a 104 QB rating and his differential is pretty good with 13 tds to 5 ints.
Last season in the playoffs they let him loose against the Saints and he came up trumps, he had a 101 QB rating in the playoffs over the two games.
This year they let him loose against the Bills and again he came up trump, then he had a bad game against the Giants but everybody is entitled to one bad game.

Imo he is being held back by the offensive playbook. Kaepernick looked good in his first start but he didn't look so good when he came in for Smith the week before. We'll see how it goes but I'm not sure he is ready yet. I'm not sure he is the answer at QB for them.

I feel for Alex Smith as he has done nothing wrong and I feel that he should have been given more leash to hang himself if they felt they would go another direction. Thing is I think he would thrive given the opportunity to throw the ball more.

I always believed Smith wasn't good enough up until the playoffs last season. I now think he has a future in the NFL and I think the 49ers are making a big mistake here.

Agree completely with this. I don't understand why you would make the change midway through a season, that is going well, for a team with genuine Superbowl aspirations. Apart from the playing side, I wonder how it has gone down in the locker room or for team chemistry. (Bronco similar situation coming up!) I remember Shanahan benching Bubby Brister for Brian Griese and it destroyed the team chemistry (apparently) Again, I'm not saying this is the exact same, but why take the risk?

If it doesn't work out, you now have to go back to a QB you've tried to dump twice this year.

PokeHerKing

poldebruin wrote: »

If it doesn't work out, you now have to go back to a QB you've tried to dump twice this year.

I think there in lies the answer, I'm not in anyway comparing Kaepernick to manning but Harbaugh already showed once this year that he doesn't consider Smith his guy.

So maybe for Jim it was an easy decision to drop him when Kaepernick showed what he can do in an NFL game.

padraig_f

eagle eye wrote: »

I don't think you are being very fair to Alex Smith here(never thought I'd see myself write those words!) because the guy is stuck in a system where he is not asked to throw the ball that often. To this point in the season he has a 70% completion rate, he has a 104 QB rating and his differential is pretty good with 13 tds to 5 ints.

I think he failed last year in the playoffs against the Giants. I think he failed this year against the Giants. And another game I watched fairly closely was against Seattle this year. The 49ers won that game but I left it thinking 'I'm not sure you can win a Super Bowl with Alex Smith'.

In that game, twice Frank Gore dragged them into the redzone with big runs. One one trip Smith threw an interception, on another they failed to convert and settled for a field goal. Also just before half-time, they got a big return to the 50. They just needed to go 15 yards to get a field-goal attempt before the time expired, and Smith couldn't do it. That was a lot of points left on the field. It didn't cost them in that game, but it would against a team with a better offense.

I think Alex Smith is ok to good, and we really haven't seen enough of Kaepernick to say if he'll be better or not. I just like the ambition to say that 'ok to good' maybe isn't good enough, and having the courage to make that change mid-season.

I wasn't following the NFL back then, but didn't Bill Belichick make a pretty similar decision in 2001 when he stuck with an unheralded 6th-round QB, ahead of his pro-bowl starter? That seems an easy decision in hindsight, but it struck me as a similarly brave decision at the time.

eagle eye

padraig_f wrote: »

I wasn't following the NFL back then, but didn't Bill Belichick make a pretty similar decision in 2001 when he stuck with an unheralded 6th-round QB, ahead of his pro-bowl starter? That seems an easy decision in hindsight, but it struck me as a similarly brave decision at the time.

No the Brady thing was totally different. Bledsoe went down in the second game of the season and missed most of the year. Brady proved himself over pretty much a whole season. The controversy arose when Brady got injured against the Steelers in the playoffs and Bledsoe came in and played well. Belichick stuck with Brady though for the Superbowl.

DDC1990

Happy Thanksgiving JJ.

Love the Lions OLine.

Plays: 1
Sacks: 1

wow less than 5 mins into this game and its already more enjoyable than all of the eagles games together should be a good game both teams are a pleasure to watch

eagle eye

That was a real good drive against a tough defense for the Lions. Great start for them.

SantryRed

SantryRed wrote: »

What a dud of a MNF game :pac:

yup but it must have looked like a sweet game before the season started:(

taidghbaby

Though that was a dirty kick by Suh on Schaub there!

Ares

That is a fúcking scandalous decision! It clearly comes off Quinn. How more conclusive do you need? Absolute wankology of a decision!

El Horseboxo

Thought that was a clear turnover. Some of the angles they must have must be crap.

bring back the replacment refs

taidghbaby

taidghbaby wrote: »

Though that was a dirty kick by Suh on Schaub there!

its cool its a tradition

taidghbaby

Arian Foster is very very good!

Hulk Hands

At least Megatron's form can finally put an end to this Madden Curse shiite

TaosHum

Been impressed with the Lions today so far. The offense looks much more improved from when I seen them last against the Bears.

Paully D

Day off tomorrow. Fantastic Just settling in to watch a night of football.

eagle eye

When I seen that ball being caught I knew instantly it could only be Calvin Johnson.

PokeHerKing

Great game to kick of a night of football, quality TD there!

eagle eye

Ugh Kid Rock, mute time.

Paully D

eagle eye wrote: »

Ugh Kid Rock, mute time.

At least we know where Jimmy Savile's tracksuits went.

Masked Man

What the ****?

barbarians

What the hell just happened ??

Bring back the replacement refs I say :P

Stev_o

F*CKING Replacement Refs!....oh wait.

Ares

If the Lions lose because of that I'm gonna quit watching NFL. Words don't describe how wrong that is. Bullshít call.

Masked Man

What the ****?

TDs are automatically reviewed?? Cause he threw the flag?

eagle eye

Schwartz you fool, thats awful. I can understand how the officials didn't rule him down, its was very quick and hard to see.

Masked Man

Jim Schwartz is stupid.

That rule is even dumber.

Son Of A Vidic

Beyong a joke that call, bring back the replacement refs ffs.

PokeHerKing

How did the refs not rule him down, Christ like it couldn't have been more obvious.

****in premature Pete(jim) just cost his team big there

Onecoolcookie

Haha Jim Schwartz

Lionbacker

What an absolute joke.:mad:

Something got to be done about that ridiculous rule fast.

Hulk Hands

Harsh but considering the head coach and team involved...:D