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Which do you prefer?

  • 19-11-2012 2:22pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭


    Hi Ladies...

    I'm here for some good womanly advice/ideas.

    To cut a long story short, my partner may be acquiring a pub/bar soon. It's my job to help (do) a little upgrade on the decorating and practical solutions to improve the place.

    My question is, what do you prefer to dry your hands with in the bathroom.

    Normal hand dryer? A fancy pants blue led hand dryer that bursts eardrums?

    Those paper towel things from a dispenser? Towel? (gross)

    I want your opinions please! (and any other things (decor included) that you like to see in a pub loo!)

    Thanks in advance :-)
    Tunage

    I prefer to dry my hands with... 122 votes

    any type of hand dryer
    0% 0 votes
    paper towels from a dispenser
    22% 28 votes
    a good old fashioned towel
    69% 85 votes
    other (please expand on this!)
    7% 9 votes


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,154 ✭✭✭Dolbert


    Definitely offer both an air dryer and a paper towel dispenser :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,401 ✭✭✭✭x Purple Pawprints x


    I'd agree with Dolbert, air dryer and paper towels. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,089 ✭✭✭✭LizT


    If it's a pub, don't bother with the paper towels, people will just use a whole bunch of them when they're drunk and it creates more mess.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 42 syjg18


    I prefer any type of hand dryer and a good old fashioned towel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭Tunage


    That's what I was already considering LizT... Nothing more hateful looking than an over flowing bin of blue scrunched up balls!


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 17,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭Das Kitty


    The greenest way is to dry them in your jeans...

    I like a dyson hand dryer or paper towels.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,449 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    Paper towels, with a paper towel recyling bin right underneath it.

    Hand dryers are awful, noisy, and either burning hot, or too cold to work. You end up with warm damp hands. Germs all go yay, My favourite environment!

    If it was me, I would build the sinks into a counter so people can put their makeup on something as well... and in between the sinks mount the paper towel dispensers on the wall. Make them big so you don't need to refill every five mins. Have a round hole in the counter to drop the used paper into. Bin underneath. Voila, no-one sees piles of paper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭Bubblefett


    I prefer paper towels, though not the greenest option I admit. I just don't like hand dryers. Hate using towels when out- they're always wet and gross.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Ice Storm


    Tunage wrote: »
    That's what I was already considering LizT... Nothing more hateful looking than an over flowing bin of blue scrunched up balls!
    If paper towels aren't provided, some people tend to use the toilet roll to dry their hands (in my experience).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭cee_jay


    I like the dyson hand dryers (pic attached).
    Not a fan of proper towels because they get damp and you don't know who has been using it before you.
    Normal hand dryers are either too hot or cold.
    I like paper towels, but they create a messy bathroom and are not the most environmentally friendly.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 930 ✭✭✭poeticseraphim


    Silk perfumed handkerchiefs or the air from the fanning of nymphs.

    Anything else in an establishment is unacceptable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭cruizer101


    What about the towel roll pully thingy, you know the ones where you yank yourself down a fresh bit of towel. They are more environmentally friendly than the paper ones, and do a good job of drying hands I think.
    Not really sure whta the expense of getting teh rolls cleaned would compare to paper towels, less messy anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭Alessandra


    I voted paper towels. I think the dyson driers actually are really gross? The air temperature is really hot and if you look at the bottom there is often a layer of scum built up from the water splashes.

    The important thing with paper towels is that they are restocked fastidiously. I like the dispensers that have a sensor so enough comes down as they feel your hands beneath. Also worth investing in some nice soap dispensers.
    Try to avoid having people selling lollipops/perfume/gum in the toilets on a Saturday night as it really detracts from a good pub.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Dyson air dryers with paper towels!

    And avoid getting those taps that dispense water for 2 seconds and then stop :mad: so many places have these rubbish taps now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Mayo Miss


    I voted for the hand dryer.

    BBBBBUUUUUTTTTT if you go for this option can you please remind the installer that most women are shorter than men and not to place it so high up on the wall. Drives me nuts when I put my hands up to the dryer only to have the water run down my arms into my sleeves.

    I like using paper towels but hate the pile left around the sink and on the floor at the end of the night due to laziness and full bins.

    Good luck with the new venture!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Dyson dryers

    Otherwise I wipe my hands on my trousers


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Dyson looks to be winning :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Mayo Miss


    Oh and another little detail, hooks for jackets/bags along the bar/tables/toilet doors.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Mayo Miss wrote: »
    Oh and another little detail, hooks for jackets/bags along the bar/tables/toilet doors.

    Yup if there are no booths this is a must


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    I prefer paper towels. I think they're more sanitary because the warmth of hand dryers is just a nice breeding ground for bacteria. I think. Maybe I'm making that up, it is 4am. I still like paper towels more.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭Tunage


    Wow thank you all sooo much for the feedback.

    Being a girl/woman/female myself, I have already thought of the hooks along the bar and on the toilet door and a shelf above the toilet for putting phone on if you have it in your hand...;-)

    I suppose what I do need to say also with regards to some people's responses is that the bar is my local, I've been drinking/socialising there for years so I've already seen the things that need to be done and we're don't have the €€'s to add much more to it! We just want to

    Also, it's a small country town pub, there's hardly room for a queue never mind someone trying to flog lollipops but thank you for the idea!

    Not sure if we'll be able to afford a fancy pants Dyson (personally I hate them, loud, noisy and big) but the one we have could do with a wee upgrade.

    I added the option of the old-fashioned towel just to see what people would think and gladly, everyone seemed to agree that they're just plain gross! At home is fine but not in public bar!

    So, paper towels in proper dispenser, proper bin facilities, hooks, subtle smelly candle and Im a clean freak so it'l be sparkling!

    Thank you all soooo much! And call in for a pint (on me) hahaha!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Tunage wrote: »
    Wow thank you all sooo much for the feedback.

    Being a girl/woman/female myself, I have already thought of the hooks along the bar and on the toilet door and a shelf above the toilet for putting phone on if you have it in your hand...;-)

    I suppose what I do need to say also with regards to some people's responses is that the bar is my local, I've been drinking/socialising there for years so I've already seen the things that need to be done and we're don't have the €€'s to add much more to it! We just want to

    Also, it's a small country town pub, there's hardly room for a queue never mind someone trying to flog lollipops but thank you for the idea!

    Not sure if we'll be able to afford a fancy pants Dyson (personally I hate them, loud, noisy and big) but the one we have could do with a wee upgrade.

    I added the option of the old-fashioned towel just to see what people would think and gladly, everyone seemed to agree that they're just plain gross! At home is fine but not in public bar!

    So, paper towels in proper dispenser, proper bin facilities, hooks, subtle smelly candle and Im a clean freak so it'l be sparkling!

    Thank you all soooo much! And call in for a pint (on me) hahaha!

    Where will the candles be?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭Tunage


    In the bathroom beside the sink. They have them there already but cheap disgusting smelly ones, i'll have yankees


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    Clean toilets are a must. You can always tell the quality of the bar, from how they keep the taps to how good the staff are by the state of the toilets. I've been in some fairly shabby bars that are actually quality places, but they've all had really clean bathrooms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭Tunage


    Oh I hear you, I've been in pubs in big cities that are absolutely raking in the cash and have the most horrific bathroom facilities I've ever been in. The most basic facilities need to be kept to a high standard of cleanliness


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭Fizzlesque


    Mayo Miss wrote: »
    Oh and another little detail, hooks for jackets/bags along the bar/tables/toilet doors.

    Very important detail. One that is, sadly, far too often overlooked in food and drink emporiums. Such small things, these little hooks, but they make such an enormous difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,649 ✭✭✭Catari Jaguar


    The Xlerator. Super powerful one with the blue lights, I think. The one you dip your hands in is good and strong but the Xlerator is just as powerful AND you can blow dry your hair out straight & smooth when it gets a bit puffy/ frizzy. Pro tip there. Useful as a mirror too if there's none.

    chrome-front.jpg

    Ah look at it there, isn't it great.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Tunage wrote: »
    In the bathroom beside the sink. They have them there already but cheap disgusting smelly ones, i'll have yankees

    Never come across that, sounds nice.

    You could check out artisan Irish candle makers, you might get Yankee quality at a lower price?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,185 ✭✭✭Snoopy1


    I always judge a place by its toilets, everyone thinks im weird.
    I was in america recently and the hotel had individual hand towels, it was great.
    I do like the look of the drier that de frizzes the hair too :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    I like fancy places that have baskets of individual hand towels - unfortunately 'the general public' cannot usually be trusted with such a thing when they are drunk and they end up flung all over the place.

    The Dyson is the best option for not wanting to touch thing but honestly - I tend to use my wet hands to pat my stray hairs down.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 17,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭Das Kitty


    I like fancy places that have baskets of individual hand towels - unfortunately 'the general public' cannot usually be trusted with such a thing when they are drunk and they end up flung all over the place.

    The cost to the environment of to launder them would really put me off. I'd rather some bog roll.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    Das Kitty wrote: »
    The cost to the environment of to launder them would really put me off. I'd rather some bog roll.

    Wonder what the stats are on that. Found this but it doesnt include single use washable hand towels. According to it, paper towels are worst, followed by convential hand driers.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 17,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭Das Kitty


    Wonder what the stats are on that. Found this but it doesnt include single use washable hand towels. According to it, paper towels are worst, followed by convential hand driers.

    I suppose I'm thinking of hotel towels and the cost of laundering them and the detergents used for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭WinterSong


    Dyson Airblade.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    Das Kitty wrote: »
    I suppose I'm thinking of hotel towels and the cost of laundering them and the detergents used for it.

    Oh I totally agree. Think those long rolls that you pull down the next bit would have a similar issue.

    I suppose youd be weighing up a one off production cost and an ongoing laundering cost (little towels) versus ongoing production costs and disposal costs (for paper towels) versus one off production cost and ongoing running cost (air drier). Very hard to quantify.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭borderlinemeath


    One thing I look for in a toilet and I never usually see them in pubs is a swinging door or a door that opens outwards so you don't have to touch it on the way out after you've washed your hands! It's all well and good washing your hands but I always think that there's a lot of women that don't bother washing their hands and then they open the door with the hand that's wiped their @rse...

    Anyway on topic I like either a dyson airblade or an old fashioned rolly towel thing. Hate paper towels, such a waste and they always end up everywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    You pay for paper towels, the storage,vat, bin disposal etc AND theyre messy,labour & storage intensive AND bad for the environment.

    Not those hideous how often used moist mega rolls

    Air hand dryers! Simples! And eco friendly!

    BTW your fab yankee candles will be robbed ;( or someone will burn arm/ dress/ eyesight/ whatever sniffing it while pissed + they will then cost you an arm + a leg. Unfortunately.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭Emeraldy Pebbles


    Air hand dryers! Simples! And eco friendly!

    And crap!

    Paper towels or pull down towelly thing all the way for me.

    People concerned about the environment re: paper towels. Do you have the same view towards loo roll?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    Air hand dryers! Simples! And eco friendly!

    According to the MIT study in the link I posted, conventional air hand driers are the second most environmentally unfriendly.

    On loo roll and eco-friendly - what alternative are we offered in a public place that we could choose not to use loo roll?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭Emeraldy Pebbles


    On loo roll and eco-friendly - what alternative are we offered in a public place that we could choose not to use loo roll?

    Nothing, obviously. I just don't get the hand-wringing about using papers towels when we probably use way more bog roll than we should and just way too much paper in life in general.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    Nothing, obviously. I just don't get the hand-wringing about using papers towels when we probably use way more bog roll than we should and just way too much paper in life in general.

    Just because we cant cut out bog roll doesnt mean that we shouldnt try to not use paper in other areas though? I mean when there is a viable alternative. I use kitchen roll and its a much cleaner alternative than using a wet dishcloth and spreading germs all round - but its not eco friendly. Its good to be eco friendly when you can, but I dont get hung up on it either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭Emeraldy Pebbles


    I use kitchen roll and its a much cleaner alternative than using a wet dishcloth and spreading germs all round - but its not eco friendly.

    Me too and this is exactly it! I'd prefer paper towels as they are much more hygienic than dryers. Not eco-friendly, but how often do I use these bathrooms? Not often!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    Me too and this is exactly it! I'd prefer paper towels as they are much more hygienic than dryers. Not eco-friendly, but how often do I use these bathrooms? Not often!

    Yeah, but those bathrooms are used by many and often, so its probably better if they dont have the least eco friendly option. In saying that, paper towels cause a huge mess of overflowing bins and being flung about by drunk people so they are probably not a 'staff friendly' option either.

    I was out on Saturday and the place had a Dyson, so I checked for the scuzz that was referred to here - yeah, its there alright, but you dont have to touch it, its just from the water being blown off your hands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭cdaly_


    Tunage wrote: »
    a shelf above the toilet for putting phone on if you have it in your hand...;-)
    I would have thought the shelf should be above the loo roll rather than above the toilet itself. You'd be reaching across the loo to pick up your phone and therefore be at risk of dropping it into the loo and you'd also be turning your back on it.

    Over the loo roll is hopefully closer to hand with less risk.
    Tunage wrote: »
    Not sure if we'll be able to afford a fancy pants Dyson (personally I hate them, loud, noisy and big) but the one we have could do with a wee upgrade.
    WinterSong wrote: »
    Dyson Airblade.
    I love the Airblade but I hate the traditional style high speed dryers. You young ladies might not notice it yet but the high speed air tends to move your skin around on your hand as you dry and you suddenly think "OMG I'm old!!" as you watch...

    The old style dryers are a pain as you wait to get dry or just head out with wet hands.


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