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Will the budget give us what we deserve?

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    #92
    Monty Burnz
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    KyussBishop wrote: »
    They are mismanaging this enormously though, and in a severely undemocratic way (we have no say over it, we have no democratic control as we should have), so we need to pressure our own governments and them to act, to provide non-financial-sector stimulus.
    They are mismanaging what? :confused: The euro?


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    #93
    Monty Burnz
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    KyussBishop wrote: »
    You're pretty much admitting you have no argument against it here, by repeating the same unbacked assertions. I await your explanation as to why the ECB's stimulus of 1 trillion Euro has not caused hyperinflation.
    Can you tell me what this 'stimulus' was spent on? That will give you your answer.

    I have plenty of arguments against your silly idea, but I'm doing other stuff here and can't be arsed writing them all out. Thanks for the opportunity though.


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    #94
    KyussBishop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    They are mismanaging the entire crisis, destroying peripheral economies with austerity.
    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Can you tell me what this 'stimulus' was spent on? That will give you your answer.

    I have plenty of arguments against your silly idea, but I'm doing other stuff here and can't be arsed writing them all out. Thanks for the opportunity though.
    Sorry my economic knowledge is akin to 'science fiction' as you put it, please do enlighten me; why has that 1 trillion Euro stimulus not caused hyperinflation?


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    #95
    Monty Burnz
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    KyussBishop wrote: »
    Sorry my economic knowledge is akin to 'science fiction' as you put it, please do enlighten me; why has that 1 trillion Euro stimulus not caused hyperinflation?
    Can you tell me what the 'stimulus' money was spent on?


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    #96
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    KyussBishop wrote: »
    They are mismanaging the entire crisis, destroying peripheral economies with austerity.

    No evidence they're 'mismanaging' anything. Obviously someone is profiting from this. The transfer of private debt was managed very well I'd say.

    Off topic, could we ask Google for a few bob like? I mean, what are they gonna do with €8bn a year? There's only so much coke and húkers in the world.


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    #97
    SEANoftheDEAD
    Registered Users Posts: 635 ✭✭✭SEANoftheDEAD


    As regards protests in this country... I think the problem is there too well organised, if you get me. So they end up been pointless...

    All protesters need to do it on the same day, ie, pensioners, taxi drivers, framers, students, everyone! Make the gears the turn the country grind to a hault for 24hour lockdown! Country on strike if you will... no rebellion, or violence, just a simple sit down until the countries demands are met.

    The budget is going to be tough, that cant be helped. But as pointed out the problem is how the "other half" live and what they get away with. That's what the country needs to to take action against.


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    #98
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    ^^^^
    The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress

    Someone said that once. I'm shure the average African tyrant/dictator is watching sky news with a note book and pencil in hand, recording quotes from Merkel.


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    #99
    CruelCoin
    Registered Users Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    wicorthered wrote: »
    While mass demonstrations and work stoppages are carried out throughout Europe today, we the good old obedient Irish, will just carry on as we are heading off into work. Sure we'll all have a moan about rising taxes, social welfare cuts blah blah blah, but when it comes to it we'll just accept the budget in January and move on.

    I know there's something planned for Nov 24th, but surely coordinating with the rest of Europe would be a more powerful statement. And I bet the march on the 24th barley gets 5,000 people.

    Are the cuts not hurting people as bad as it's being made out? Surely if people were actually on the bread line, there'd be enough outrage to lead to actual genuine protests?

    When the government knows there's no repercussions from a harsh budget, they're not going to hold back!

    I reckon the peoples lack of action, means we can't really complain about what the government do in December!

    What is it you believe you deserve?

    Do you believe you deserve bubble level services based on bust level finances?
    Where would you get the money from instead?


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    #100
    Monty Burnz
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    KyussBishop wrote: »
    Sorry my economic knowledge is akin to 'science fiction' as you put it, please do enlighten me; why has that 1 trillion Euro stimulus not caused hyperinflation?
    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Can you tell me what the 'stimulus' money was spent on?

    Ok, you seem to have a problem answering this question. I wonder why.


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    #101
    KyussBishop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    Sorry, but you're asking me to answer a purely rhetorical question, to offer you a jump-off point for your own rhetoric. You clearly have an answer in mind, so why not quit faffing about and get on with the reply you have in mind? (preferably involving the explanation of why we're not undergoing hyperinflation)


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    #102
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    KyussBishop wrote: »
    Sorry, but you're asking me to answer a purely rhetorical question, to offer you a jump-off point for your own rhetoric. You clearly have an answer in mind, so why not quit faffing about and get on with the reply you have in mind? (preferably involving the explanation of why we're not undergoing hyperinflation)
    I know the answer to the question and why it has had no impact on inflation. I'm just wondering if you do, or if you have had a chance to Google it yet.


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