Messrs Maguires (Read Mod Note - Post #33)

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Hearing it was closed by Nama.

Pity if true

Mod Edit: Messrs is currently operating as normal - Please read post #33

Krusty_Clown

I was in there on Friday night for a pint, so unless it has closed down since then, I would hazard a guess that it's still open. Rather disappointingly though, they had none of their own micro-brewed beers, just the mainstream stuff. So perhaps that's a negative sign.

GLaDOS

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/landlord-locks-himself-in-bar-as-ibrc-swoops-on-indebted-pubs-3290672.html

On November 8, it appointed agents to take back control of Messers Maguire, The Cat & Cage and Quinns.

Yesterday, Messers Maguire was operating normally.

From Sunday. Looks like they're in trouble anyway. Would be sad to see it go myself.

Krusty_Clown

And bam. I'm wrong..
Iconic Quinn family pubs were shut down by toxic bank IBRC in a row over rent
It closed on Thursday and re-opened on Friday.

irish_goat

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

I was in there on Friday night for a pint, so unless it has closed down since then, I would hazard a guess that it's still open. Rather disappointingly though, they had none of their own micro-brewed beers, just the mainstream stuff. So perhaps that's a negative sign.

That's a bit strange, I was in about 2 weeks ago and the brewer had a brew going so they'll definitely have some available soon enough.

Focalbhach

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Rather disappointingly though, they had none of their own micro-brewed beers, just the mainstream stuff. So perhaps that's a negative sign.

I'll be very sad if this is true. I was planning to head that way tomorrow while the international match is on, mainly as an excuse to see if their porter is still on. If there are no homebrews I have no real reason to go to Messrs anymore.

liffeylite

sounds like it reopened?

anyone been in this week or walked by to confirm?

I am sure they will still do the micro brewery stuff, that would be the style of the pub and with craft beer places doing so well its a winner!
no reason to close it, unless they were intending to sell it. so I would be surprised if it wasnt open again,but with new locks etc and a legal change of hands.

Esoteric_

It was open on Friday night, was in there getting fairly wasted.

I'll check tomorrow and see if it's open.

Larianne

Maybe if they turned off the heat in the place it would save them money. Always roasting in that place. Very uncomfortable.

A Disgrace

Larianne wrote: »

Maybe if they turned off the heat in the place it would save them money. Always roasting in that place. Very uncomfortable.

Agree, way too hot

Mr Simpson

irish_goat wrote: »

That's a bit strange, I was in about 2 weeks ago and the brewer had a brew going so they'll definitely have some available soon enough.

I hadn't realised they were still brewing there

Even aside from the very informative OP it looks like some financial games are being played.

Polar101

MarkMc wrote: »

I hadn't realised they were still brewing there

I really like their beers, and it's only €4 a pint.. hope they keep brewing.

nudger

Never knew that it was owned by Sean Quinn, is he related to Frank or Mick of the Lansdowne hotel?

The Hill Billy

Folks - No speculation please on the reasons for closure (if it is indeed closing). Owners tend to get a tad upset, especially if the speculation is totally incorrect.

Thanks,

tHB

keano_afc

Larianne wrote: »

Maybe if they turned off the heat in the place it would save them money. Always roasting in that place. Very uncomfortable.

Absolutely. Was in there for an engagement party and it was stifling. Made we want to drink more.

Hang on a second....

liffeylite

keano_afc wrote: »

Absolutely. Was in there for an engagement party and it was stifling. Made we want to drink more.

Hang on a second....

It should have reopened if the reports in the press are correct. Has anyone been by and had a look?

Esoteric_

liffeylite wrote: »

It should have reopened if the reports in the press are correct. Has anyone been by and had a look?

Yup, it was open this evening when I walked by.

liffeylite

Good stuff

the pub itself as far I am aware is perfectly profitable. <Mod snip>

but obviously, it is more of an asset when its open

adamski8

Just there tonight. Atm not working and jo cards acceptes as payments

msg11

Quinns is going to close down this Saturday according to reports from my friends they got there information via Facebook from the Quinns page.

Saruman

I noticed the signs have been taken down, but it looked like people were still coming and going. I only saw it crossing O'Connell bridge so can't be too sure.
Website also doesn't work any more.

chickenbutt

This is written at the top of their Twitter account:

Now Taken over by very greedy people Called.. Anglo Irish Bank AKA Our Government. Advice...Drink somewhere else!!!!

But is it gonna remain open now? Mate says it's gonna shut now Anglo's been liquidated?

Was only in there Tuesday night!

adamski8

was running as normal yesterday. so if we drink there the profits go to our government rather than some greedy business man, sounds good to me

bassey

adamski8 wrote: »

was running as normal yesterday. so if we drink there the profits go to our government European Overlords rather than some greedy business man, sounds good to me

FYP

kreuzberg09

adamski8 wrote: »

was running as normal yesterday. so if we drink there the profits go to our government rather than some greedy business man, sounds good to me

More like the profits going to pay for the KPMG hourly rate and expenses.

liffeylite

is this place closed now? can anyone confirm?

I can see the logic that since Anglo has been liquidated, their assets have now been closed off. however, they must have passed through to another arm of the government, and I cannot see the government wanting to close down a successful business and lose the jobs contained therein.

I could see it closing temporarily until the relevant powers can reinstate it.

Has this affected the barge pub also?

OldBean

I was in there last week. It was petty dead.

The bar staff seemed clueless about their own beers. I asked if they were still brewing them, and they said no, they thought someone called Rob was, but they didn't know what they were. Hohum.

markpb

adamski8 wrote: »

was running as normal yesterday. so if we drink there the profits go to our government rather than some greedy business man, sounds good to me

If you like that, you'd love living in Soviet Russia!

Was in Messrs last night, still open.

Sheeps

Really like Messers.

Mr Simpson

Mod Note

Currently Messrs Maguire's is still open and operating as Normal. Therefore I'd ask people to not speculate about its closure, its unfair on Staff and Management at what is an already difficult time. If you are going to post regarding it's closure, you MUST provide a reputable source for this (Note - Twitter, facebook etc. are not valid sources). Failure to adhere to this will result in infractions and/or bans being issued

MarkMc

bbuzz

What's the story with the house brews? They still doing them? Always used to like them and they were only €4.

Saruman

I think they increased somewhat in price with the duty increase, maybe €4.10 now but I have not been in to check on the house brews. It would be a real shame to see them go. Apart from being very good, far better than anything else they serve, It's the only brewpub in Dublin and would be a tragedy to lose it.

adamski8

bbuzz wrote: »

What's the story with the house brews? They still doing them? Always used to like them and they were only €4.

yes, they arent brewed by messrs themselves (only some specials ever were) and they are now €4.10

stevenmu

liffeylite wrote: »

I can see the logic that since Anglo has been liquidated, their assets have now been closed off. however, they must have passed through to another arm of the government, and I cannot see the government wanting to close down a successful business and lose the jobs contained therein.

Anglo assets have passed over to NAMA. In general NAMA seem to have kept businesses running where possible, and have even put money into businesses to keep them going where they were in short term trouble.

I think someone mentioned before that Messrs makes good profits but is just saddled with the debts of the parent company. If that's the case NAMA would definitely keep them open and operating.

Saruman

adamski8 wrote: »

yes, they arent brewed by messrs themselves (only some specials ever were) and they are now €4.10

That's not exactly true, though it has been at certain times during the history of Messrs. Some were contract brewed at White Gypsy by Cuilan who used to be the brewer in Messrs but only when there was no full time brewer there. When there was, such as Melissa then White Gypsy I think only produced one of the Messrs beers but for the most part, when there has been a brewer on site, they have brewed most of the beers on site. Obviously when Cuilan was there, all of them would have been brewed on site.

SantryRed

Is it even called Messrs anymore?

The name is covered anywhere it used to be on the outside.

Mr Simpson

SantryRed wrote: »

Is it even called Messrs anymore?

The name is covered anywhere it used to be on the outside.

I'm not sure, I'll be passing it in about 30 minutes, I'll try to find out

BeerNut

I've heard (from a reputable source ) that it will be renamed. Very soon, I believe.

Saruman

Saruman wrote: »

I think they increased somewhat in price with the duty increase, maybe €4.10 now but I have not been in to check on the house brews. It would be a real shame to see them go. Apart from being very good, far better than anything else they serve, It's the only brewpub in Dublin and would be a tragedy to lose it.

Can confirm, been drinking their pale ale at €4.10 a pint recently.

irish_goat

SantryRed wrote: »

Is it even called Messrs anymore?

The name is covered anywhere it used to be on the outside.

No, the fella who owned the rights to the name took them with him when NAMA came in.

Mr Simpson

irish_goat wrote: »

No, the fella who owned the rights to the name took them with him when NAMA came in.

Pretty much the same as Shebeen Chic changing to the Speakeasy

P_1

irish_goat wrote: »

No, the fella who owned the rights to the name took them with him when NAMA came in.

Isn't that somewhat petty by the owner of the naming rights?

Spear

P_1 wrote: »

Isn't that somewhat petty by the owner of the naming rights?

The nature of copyright laws mean that if you don't take steps to protect it, it's lost, so he probably didn't have a choice.

BeerNut

So the new name is Sweetman & Wolfe.

Don't forget to post how much you dislike it :P

reprazant

What a bloody awful name! Where did they come up with that?

Ah sure, the beer's still great! It'll always be Messrs to me though. I still call The Village The Mean Fiddler.

coconutpie

Not sure about the Wolfe part but the Sweetman name has been associated with breweries in Dublin in the past. And I think it was based in the same area of Dublin.

Sweetman's brewery was demolished by Lord Iveagh, the Guinness chairman, in 1900 to make way for an old clothes market.
http://simtec.us/dublinbrewing/history.html

coconutpie

Q Bar next door was owned by the same gang so I wonder will they be affected by the reopening. (It's closed at the moment I think)