Phoenix Park Concerts 2013

karaokeman

New thread for convenience.

http://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/onth...s-summer-2013/

So, what can we look forward to in 2013? Well, there will definitely be a return to the Phoenix Park, with MCD looking to put on up to four shows in the park next year for a start. This makes total sense: if you leave aside the events surrounding the Swedish House Mafia show last July, the Park was a hugely successful venture for the promoter with three sold-out shows earning a huge gross and involving a much smaller sets of costs than Oxegen. And lightning can’t strike twice, can it? There will also be shows at Croke Park, Marlay Park, the RDS and the Aviva (Roger Waters isn’t likely to be the only one paying rent to the IRFU and the FAI). Acts we might – and please note I said “might” – possibly see playing in the country next summer include Beyonce, Bruce Springsteen, Rihanna, the Rolling Stones, Arcade Fire (though that’s more likely to be 2014 if the album release is late 2013), Tom Waits and Fleetwood Mac.

Furious-Red

Wembley Stadium announcing their first act tomorrow , could be an indication of a band that could play PP or Croker

Wembley Stadium

BIG announcement here tomorrow re who we have lined up now for next year! Any ideas?

Keep your guesses coming in for which bands/artists we have lined up for 2013, we'll reveal one tomorrow! #Wembley

Just Like Heaven

I'm gonna say Muse

Just Like Heaven

Ahh t'was the Killers. Bah hambug.

ghostdancer

http://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/ontherecord/2012/11/16/summer-2013-speculation/

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Mumford & Sons: set to be one of the acts playing the Phoenix Park next summer apparently.

The Script: also on the slate for the Park.

Beyonce: apparently, also in the mix for the Park. Reckon her Superbowl 2013 show is going to be hot.
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Furious-Red

Can see Script and M&S doing a show together like SP and FATM this year and will def sell out

Maybe Beyonce and Jessie J , would have thought Beyonce would be bigger then Rihanna though or at leas the same size

cometogether

The Script and Mumford and Sons? Who said rock was dead......

Billy Mays

ghostdancer wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/ontherecord/2012/11/16/summer-2013-speculation/

Oh dear God, no!!!

Just Like Heaven

Furious-Red wrote: »

Can see Script and M&S doing a show together like SP and FATM this year and will def sell out

Maybe Beyonce and Jessie J , would have thought Beyonce would be bigger then Rihanna though or at leas the same size

This sounds more likely.

sheroman01

Kings of Leon could well be likely, with a new album surfacing in early 2013. Maybe with Mumford and Sons supporting? That would be class! Arcade Fire unlikely to play, but I would equally love that!

Furious-Red

sheroman01 wrote: »

Kings of Leon could well be likely, with a new album surfacing in early 2013. Maybe with Mumford and Sons supporting? That would be class! Arcade Fire unlikely to play, but I would equally love that!

If KOL dont do Oxegen next year then i can def see them doing PP , although since they could easily sell it out on their own i would'nt expect a big support bill

Billy Mays

The Killers, Mumford & Sons and Timberlake if the Herald is to be believed.
Three absolutely crap acts.

http://www.herald.ie/news/now-gardai-braced-for-threegig-special-at-the-phoenix-park-29119920.html

UsedToWait

From the article:

Gardai from Store Street have already been to concerts by these bands in other countries to carry out surveillance.

That's the funniest thing I've read all day

Billy Mays

UsedToWait wrote: »

From the article:




That's the funniest thing I've read all day

Can't see Mumford and Sons fans arriving all tooled up and yoked out of it but you never know

I Luv Crysis

Leonard Cohen rumored (mentioned on newstalk breakfast this morning)

He's playing the O2 in London on 21st June 2013, is that around the same dates as these PP gigs?

grudgehugger

I Luv Crysis wrote: »

Leonard Cohen rumored (mentioned on newstalk breakfast this morning)

He's playing the O2 in London on 21st June 2013, is that around the same dates as these PP gigs?

I think you can forget about Leonard.

Newstalk interviewer is ex PP resident and was badgering Mary Fitz, local FFer, who was more or less saying gigs should go ahead as long as the acts would attract the "right sort of people".

Newstalk person was being fairly aggressive and poor Mary was no Mumford & Sons expert and dredged up Leonard Cohen as the type of act less likely to pull in the undesirables. Mary's not the booker though.

Seems pretty much 100% that it'll be the three acts already mentioned.

PTH2009

So Croke Park are getting no gigs this year ??

Furious-Red

PTH2009 wrote: »

So Croke Park are getting no gigs this year ??

Id say so especially since there are prob not acts touring this year that could sell it out and after the RHCP gig prob dont wanna take a chance

lc180

Furious-Red wrote: »

Id say so especially since there are prob not acts touring this year that could sell it out and after the RHCP gig prob dont wanna take a chance

Yeah i think you are pretty spot on there. Last year was a disaster for stadium gigs.

The only band i could see take a bash at filling Croker is Kings of Leon, Ireland is suspiciously missing from their summer tour. I wouldnt count on it though.

WoollyRedHat

MCD being as ambitous as always! **** me....

Hope that doesn't prove to be the acts. Arcade Fire would be ace.

davywalsh7

PTH2009 wrote: »

So Croke Park are getting no gigs this year ??

Rolling Stones maybe?

aka accounts 2010

contact mcd ‏@mcd_productions

Big announcement coming tomorrow folks, make sure you keep an eye on our Twitter page...



Phoenix Park or Oxegen????

Niamh_101

aka accounts 2010 wrote: »

contact mcd ‏@mcd_productions

Big announcement coming tomorrow folks, make sure you keep an eye on our Twitter page...



Phoenix Park or Oxegen????

It has to be Oxegen! Been waiting too long for them to announce the lineup. They have Forbidden Fruit and Longitude lineup out of the way now so maybe tomorrow is the day whether we'll know if lineup is good or not.

aka accounts 2010

Niamh_101 wrote: »

It has to be Oxegen! Been waiting too long for them to announce the lineup. They have Forbidden Fruit and Longitude lineup out of the way now so maybe tomorrow is the day whether we'll know if lineup is good or not.

They might also just announce when the Oxegen launch is taking place so we may have to wait a few extra days.

Plenty talk in the press recently regarding Killers, Mumford and Sons and JT playing PP so may be confirmed tomorrow!!

Niamh_101

aka accounts 2010 wrote: »

They might also just announce when the Oxegen launch is taking place so we may have to wait a few extra days.

Plenty talk in the press recently regarding Killers, Mumford and Sons and JT playing PP so may be confirmed tomorrow!!

If its Phoenix Park I really hope it's end of July! Hopefully no stabbings this year.

aka accounts 2010

Niamh_101 wrote: »

If its Phoenix Park I really hope it's end of July! Hopefully no stabbings this year.

By all accounts the three gigs will be held on 11th, 13th and 14th of July.

These dates are probably accurate. MCD have Longitude starting the 19th of July and Oxegen due to take place 3rd and 4th August.

Chazz Michael Michaels

I went to the Roses last year, getting out of the place was a nightmare, I got crushed in a bottleneck on the way out. Hope they improve it this time.

Niamh_101

aka accounts 2010 wrote: »

By all accounts the three gigs will be held on 11th, 13th and 14th of July.

These dates are probably accurate. MCD have Longitude starting the 19th of July and Oxegen due to take place 3rd and 4th August.

Looks like I'm missing it this year!

Achtung Maybe

There doesnt seem to be too many acts who can "sell" stadium /outdoor gigs anymore. Obviously the usual suspects like U2, Springsteen, The Stones etc always do whilst The Killers, Coldplay, RHCP, (and dare I say Bon Jovi also can.

With David Bowie releasing a new album, perhaps The Thin White Duke might do a show here?

lordgoat

Achtung Maybe wrote: »

With David Bowie releasing a new album, perhaps The Thin White Duke might do a show here?

No.

Just Like Heaven

If it's Oxegen I doubt they'll be announcing any bands. Perhaps one headliner. But they'll be announcing when they'll be announcing the line-up basically :rolleyes:

eldest200

What about Green Day?

airbusa320

Mumford and sons, ben howard the vaccines confirmed july 14th Phoenix park by MCD facebook page

Mushy

Hopefully this means the Justin Timberlake rumour will be true too.

gavo82

Will there be a pre-sale for the Mumford Phoenix Park gig?

Just Like Heaven

Fuck €61.50 for Mumford and the Vaccines. Chriiiist.

aka accounts 2010

fewtinsoffroth wrote: »

Fuck €61.50 for Mumford and the Vaccines. Chriiiist.

How much did you expect it to be? Mumford and Sons Played the O2 before Christmas, tickets were €39.05+€4.95 fees in a purpose built venue that does not incur many of the costs a huge outdoor gig has.

You're getting a full days line-up in a venue which has to be fenced off, expensive licences obtained, stage built, sound and lighting towers constructed and equipment installed and checked. Temporary roadways put down for vehicles, clean up costs after the gig, security costs inside the venue, costs for Gardai inside the venue, significant advertising campaigns, obtain health and safety approval of all works before gates can be opened, plus all artist fees etc etc etc etc etc.

Granted MCD take money from vendors who set up inside the venue but MCD are a business after all. They are in existence to turn a profit, like every other business in this country. Would you expect MCD to charge a ticket price which would mean they break-even on every gig held in this country, that all MCD staff work for free and that they operate out of the back seat of a VW Polo and therefore incur no office running costs????!!!

None of this comes cheap I'm afraid. A large group of construction workers will be in place in the 7-10 days before the series of gigs. All these lads need to be paid.

Not bad value in my opinion. A few drinks, trip to nightclub, bit of food after and taxi home would be alot more expensive!!

P.S - I DON'T WORK FOR MCD!!

Mushy

aka accounts 2010 wrote: »

How much did you expect it to be? Mumford and Sons Played the O2 before Christmas, tickets were €39.05+€4.95 fees in a purpose built venue that does not incur many of the costs a huge outdoor gig has.

You're getting a full days line-up in a venue which has to be fenced off, expensive licences obtained, stage built, sound and lighting towers constructed and equipment installed and checked. Temporary roadways put down for vehicles, clean up costs after the gig, security costs inside the venue, costs for Gardai inside the venue, significant advertising campaigns, obtain health and safety approval of all works before gates can be opened, plus all artist fees etc etc etc etc etc.

Granted MCD take money from vendors who set up inside the venue but MCD are a business after all. They are in existence to turn a profit, like every other business in this country. Would you expect MCD to charge a ticket price which would mean they break-even on every gig held in this country, that all MCD staff work for free and that they operate out of the back seat of a VW Polo and therefore incur no office running costs????!!!

None of this comes cheap I'm afraid. A large group of construction workers will be in place in the 7-10 days before the series of gigs. All these lads need to be paid.

Not bad value in my opinion. A few drinks, trip to nightclub, bit of food after and taxi home would be alot more expensive!!

P.S - I DON'T WORK FOR MCD!!

Im gonna start by saying I fully understand where all this comes from. But I must also say its a bit over-priced. I was thinking in terms of if Muse were playing, how much would it be? Their gig at the o2 was 60e, which was tough enough to stump up. A rough estimate if they played PP would be 70-80, then to have fees on top. That is hitting prices, albeit lowest prices, that are paid for legendary status bands. No offence to Mumford, but they are nowhere near that level (and neither are Muse). So yeah, I think it is a bit over-priced.

Just Like Heaven

aka accounts 2010 wrote: »

How much did you expect it to be? Mumford and Sons Played the O2 before Christmas, tickets were €39.05+€4.95 fees in a purpose built venue that does not incur many of the costs a huge outdoor gig has.

You're getting a full days line-up in a venue which has to be fenced off, expensive licences obtained, stage built, sound and lighting towers constructed and equipment installed and checked. Temporary roadways put down for vehicles, clean up costs after the gig, security costs inside the venue, costs for Gardai inside the venue, significant advertising campaigns, obtain health and safety approval of all works before gates can be opened, plus all artist fees etc etc etc etc etc.

Granted MCD take money from vendors who set up inside the venue but MCD are a business after all. They are in existence to turn a profit, like every other business in this country. Would you expect MCD to charge a ticket price which would mean they break-even on every gig held in this country, that all MCD staff work for free and that they operate out of the back seat of a VW Polo and therefore incur no office running costs????!!!

None of this comes cheap I'm afraid. A large group of construction workers will be in place in the 7-10 days before the series of gigs. All these lads need to be paid.

Not bad value in my opinion. A few drinks, trip to nightclub, bit of food after and taxi home would be alot more expensive!!

P.S - I DON'T WORK FOR MCD!!

I would expect an outdoors gig in Phoenix park to be €60.

But compare the quality of the line up to some of the previous Marley Park days. Pretty sure the Snow Patrol + Florence and the Machine gig was €60~ as well. Snow Patrol can sell out several nights at the 02 charging €50 and Florence could probably play a couple of nights charging €50 as well. And there was still support. The Swedish house mafia gig had a pretty beefy line up as well. And the Foo fighters one in Belfast.

These cost a fortune to put on, so yeah I'd expect anything to be €60 in Phoenix park. But that line up just seems a good bit less worth it than previous gigs.

aka accounts 2010

Mushy wrote: »

Im gonna start by saying I fully understand where all this comes from. But I must also say its a bit over-priced. I was thinking in terms of if Muse were playing, how much would it be? Their gig at the o2 was 60e, which was tough enough to stump up. A rough estimate if they played PP would be 70-80, then to have fees on top. That is hitting prices, albeit lowest prices, that are paid for legendary status bands. No offence to Mumford, but they are nowhere near that level (and neither are Muse). So yeah, I think it is a bit over-priced.

Yeah, I can see your point. Without knowing what profit margin MCD desire it's a difficult question, however:

MCD may look at this as follows:(totally fictional figures)

Sunday night: We get Mumford & Sons etc etc & charge €61.50 and make a profit of €200k (Mumford fee would not be similar to Killers, Muse etc)

Saturday night: We get the Killers OR Muse etc & charge €61.50 BUT only make a profit of €50k. (reduced profit due to higher fee to headline act)

Therefore we make an overall profit of €250k (€200k for Mumford and €50k from the Killers).

MCD will analyse profit individually and then collectively. The financial statements filed publicly with the Companies Office next year will just show overall profit, not per gig so MCD happy with result.

Just Like Heaven

^ Oh yeah you're probably spot on with how it works. If the gig was a handful of small Irish bands playing for free in Phoenix park, tickets would still be a fortune. But the thought that MCD are making a bit less money on the Muse/Killers/Coldplay gig tomorrow night doesn't make €60 for Mumford and Sons any more appealing. That being said this'll probably sell out anyway so what do I know :pac:

Corholio

The festival should be called 'Disappointing Second Album' with Mumford and Vaccines there.

aka accounts 2010

fewtinsoffroth wrote: »

^ Oh yeah you're probably spot on with how it works. If the gig was a handful of small Irish bands playing for free in Phoenix park, tickets would still be a fortune. But the thought that MCD are making a bit less money on the Muse/Killers/Coldplay gig tomorrow night doesn't make €60 for Mumford and Sons any more appealing. That being said this'll probably sell out anyway so what do I know :pac:

Yeah, I agree with what you're saying.

Sometimes the line-up won't match the price and other times the line-up will probably represent fairly decent value.

MCD will more than likely charge €61.50 for all PP gigs and just make different profit margins.

Look at it this way. An Oxegen/EP/Longitude day ticket is a set price but one day may be a particularly poor line-up wise. The Friday of 2011 Oxegen had Black Eyed Peas headlining while the Saturday had Foo's and Sunday had Coldplay. Day tickets were €99 (I think) across the board. You'd be fairly disgusted if you had a Friday day ticket!!!

colinod0806

Corholio wrote: »

The festival should be called 'Disappointing Second Album' with Mumford and Vaccines there.

Babel is better than Sigh No More imo.

smurfs5

I actually think it's pretty good value for money. I went to see Mumford at the O2 in December and it was €40, Ben Howard was €22 at the Olympia and you're getting The Vaccines on top of that.
The three acts are huge at the moment, especially amongst young people so I'm sure the gig will sell out. I just hope I get tickets, Ben and Mumford are two of my favourite artists.

alleystar

Absolutely sickened that I missed Ben Howard back when he was playing the Olympia in November, I dunno if I could endure listening to Mumford and Sons to see him perform. If it was any other band...but nope, had to be them :rolleyes:

I would pay any money to see Ben Howard though, excellent singer songwriter, even better live.

Actually on another note, they should have gotten Imagine Dragons signed up.

Furious-Red

alleystar wrote: »

Absolutely sickened that I missed Ben Howard back when he was playing the Olympia in November, I dunno if I could endure listening to Mumford and Sons to see him perform. If it was any other band...but nope, had to be them :rolleyes:

I would pay any money to see Ben Howard though, excellent singer songwriter, even better live.

Actually on another note, they should have gotten Imagine Dragons signed up.

Then check out Belsonic in Belfast , he is doing his own headline festival show up there

alleystar

Furious-Red wrote: »

Then check out Belsonic in Belfast , he is doing his own headline festival show up there

:eek:

Brilliant. Just saw it on musicscene.ie there. Thank you!

Corholio

colinod0806 wrote: »

Babel is better than Sigh No More imo.

Possibly. I just heard a repetitive, dour non-imaginative album followed by a repetitive, more dour and even more non-imaginative album.

bb86

If Mumford and Sons are playing the Sunday night, I wonder who will be playing the Saturday... Any thoughts/ideas?

Mushy

bb86 wrote: »

If Mumford and Sons are playing the Sunday night, I wonder who will be playing the Saturday... Any thoughts/ideas?

The Killers!